walker's not out to help the people of Wisconsin, he's out to 'help' the rich/super rich. Yes, he's saving money, but not for you or me. That billionaire woman from Beloit asked walker if he was going to turn Wisconsin into a RED republican state and he said that was what he was working on: 'Divide And Conquer' was only the first step.' If you want WI turned into a RED (republican) state, you know who to vote for. republicans and the rich and super rich are butt buddies. Your choice.

what bebe wasnt able to make an argument to back up its position of hypocricy without getting removed? shocking!! Really sucks when facts dont back up your big mouth!

bebe53, but ...but aren't we (the so-called left), according to your vacuous ejection of phlegm supposed to be the side of big government? AND, you're calling us hypocrits??

So why is it that the side that preaches small government and the free markets is the same side that uses big government to leverage collective power in the free markets? Anybody out there with a partial brain willing to answer that one?

Lets be clear I am opposed to the government giving any business money. If we are to succumb to the tea party mentality then any and all government assistance to corporations should be illegal. Allowing states to compete for business based on tax dollars they are willing to give should be illegal. By edfinition extortion is illegal.
In other words , DONT call for cuts in government spending and then talk about how great it is to be "business friendly" by handing them tax dollars, that is not cutting spending, its simply playing a shell game and shifting spending to your cause. If you run a business and you choose to manufacture somewhere you should not expect a tax infued gift to move your operations. If you do you are a socialist.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

GM bailouyt will be repaid with interest and saved 2 million actual jobs. TERRIBLE investment. Of course the Solyndra thing is 100% Obama? Who was the first president to offer the govt loan to them? Bush? Oh thats right.

Again if you were in Louisiana and a true free-market capitalist and your Governor spent 20 million dollars of your tax money to get a business in ? I thought that being a free-market capitalist meant that you were against big government? When a state government is pitted against another for taxpayer dollars or essentially a gift from the taxpayers its extortion. Or bribery. Either way we are talking about the very tax dollars that so many republicans say just arent there. It seems that they are there when it coomest giving tem away to what is supposed to be a free-market enterprise.
You are the same groups of people that want to take funding from schools in the name of cost savings and then hand out taxpayer dollars to help private businesses build new facilities? Hypocricy of the lowest order. Dont rail against government assisstance for families who actually need it, over CORPORATE welfare for companies like Thomas industries who at the time were making 300 million a year in profit.
Please spare me the fed examples, BTW, this is a state to state game and its all about extortion bebe. If you want to play that game, fine. GWB okayed the bank bailout that cost the taxpayers 40 times what the auto bailout did , and 200 times what solyndra did, so please dont leave out the big one that a republican signed into law. Remember the bank bailout was written by none other than Hank Paulson , the former CEO of goldman sachs the very investment bank who was at the head of this mess. WHat did that one do? Essentially held bonus programs in place for the people who are mostly responsible for the crisis!!
The people on these boards who claim to be free-marketeers are the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen.

Also remember, public sector collective bargaining is limited or outlawed in 24 states.
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Because public collective bargaining is regularly used to raise the salaries and benefits of government workers beyond inflation and beyond the taxpayer's ability to pay. This is why only 26 states have public sector collective bargaining laws similar to what Wisconsin used to have.
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State employees in 12 states have no legal right to collective bargaining. That makes public collective bargaining a government creation, not a human right.

How about this: Never use government or the power of collective taxation to create winners and losers or coerce private free enterprise to do something it would otherwise not do.

We are a United States of America, stop stealing businesses and jobs from other states and then say you're fosstering a business environment and creating jobs. You're only laying down the start of an all out civil war.

Let me get this right fear. Bobby Jindal creates a situation where a business chooses his state over ours. I would assume their residents probably love it. You call it extortion and complain about the business leaving Wisconsin.

But then Walker tries to create a business-friendly Wisconsin and you complain that he's hurting our state's residents, a crook, and any number of other things you want to throw at him.

So which one is it? Do you want Walker to try to keep business here, or do you want the workers to have all the power and then businesses leave?

http://www.jsonline.com/business/4292069...

Excellent how we lose the extortion battle and we lose 366 middle class jobs because Sheboygan only offered a 2.5 million dollar bribe.

Nother great one, Bobby Jindal the gov of Louisiana campaigning for gove Walker??!! Isnt this the guy who extorted Thomas Industries out of Wisconsin costing us 300+ jobs by building a taxpayer funded facility for them to the tune of 20+ Million tax payer dollars? Not only do they get more tax breaks tha ever now the government is building them facilities?? Any hypocrites from the free-marketeers on the right care to answer?

Hey Ted, while your busy with all your dumbed down rhetoric, why dont you ask the question of taxpayer extortion when it comes to the business community? That type of taxpayer extortion and bribery seems to be just fine with you for some reason, why? Isnt a business in the free-market suppposed to be able to "stand up" without millions of dollars in forgivable loans(welfare) and tax breaks that shift the burden more and more to the individual? Maybe you should ask the question why it is that 66% of businesses in Wisconsin pay no income tax(state) , I know asking honest non partisan questions may be hard for you but try, instead of being dumbed down by your ideology, use your brain.
I am sick and tired of idiots talking about standing on your own 2 feet , and then advocating for free money for corporations, TAX MONEY that is supposed to be for SCHOOLS and SOCIAL SERVICES, not corporate welfare.

""General strikes!?!"" Absolutely!! That would be a great idea, good luck filling all those positions with scabs. Could you imagine what would happen if all the teachers , firefighters, police , nurses, janitors, trash collectors. etcc just showed some unity and stopped showing up until they were treated fairly by these people? How quickly would you realize how important taxes and services are!!

So many people do not understand when they hear teachers get "paid" $70,000 a year, that only a portion of that is in their paycheck. The teacher might get "paid" $45,000 in salary, with the rest going to a fund for retirement and health care. To compare apples to apples one would have to compare their paycheck PLUS the (companies) cost of all their benefits to the $70,000 figure. Suddenly it does not look so unreasonable. Many people I know have taken a completely different view of it when it is explained to them this way. Walker made a completely unfair money grab, at the expense of teachers.

If we lose the recall the Feds will probably get him before his term is over.

Olderandornerier, thank you for your May 24, 2012 at 12:42 p.m. comment; it is spot on!

fearandrhetoric4dummies - boy you are on a roll! Keep it up! I will stay out of it. I couldn't agree with you more.

Raystoner- You have no idea what youre talking about. Older (whom i generally disagree with) is ABSOLUTELY correct!! Teachers work for a compensation PACKAGE negotiated as a part of what they work for. Their package is 100% tax dollars because they are public educators. And by the way, the PACKAGE that includes insurance, pension and salary is THEIRS, tax payers ARE NOT in some twisted way the employers of teachers. This country has been employing public educators for almost 200 years! This isnt some new outrage conjured up in these times of economic plight. You really should find a better channel for your fake republican outrage.

Thanks Older for the honesty.

older - you were using sarcasm, right ?
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Out of every dollar that public school teachers receive in salary, taxpayers pay 74.2 cents for their retirement and health care costs. In the private sector, the corresponding rate is only 24.3 cents. Due to collective bargaining agreements, the school district pays the entire cost of public school teachers’ pension plans. The school district also pays the entire premium for public school teachers’ medical and vision benefits.

Teachers have always paid for the entire cost of their pensions and health care in their contracted compensation package. Those of you who think they got those benefits for free with no cost out of their pocket are completely wrong.

bebe53, what Walker did is not "simply asking." He took. Now there is proof he drafted Act 10 before he accused unions of trying to ram through contracts in a lameduck session in December '10. Hey you know, I want my neighbor to own and drive the same clunker I have, I want billionaires to earn no more that $50,000 annual like I do. Even though they worked at it, contracted for it and earned it, I don't don't care because I'm a jealous little bigot. See-that's where the argument wears thin-this is about class envy, hate and special people instituting their beliefs and values on others.

Bowlgal, no proof Scott Walker is a liar and a thief? I admit calling anyone a liar and a thief anonymously might appear hateful or slanderous, but that does not take away from the facts. Outside of one truth that he was going to shut down the interstate rail which he did, all the other major policy statements were lies. Even his recent jobs reports are fabricated. At this point, I don't care if unemployment dropped to zero and the state had a billion dollar surplus, Walker cannot be trusted and that's the single most important value I look for before voting for anyone.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5Ffybem...

Sorry bebe53 I am not in, nor never have been in, a union. I am an engineer. I work in the private sector and I appreciate the teachers that taught me so well. I just want to make sure that Wisconsin's great educational system is still in place for my children and grandchildren. You, on the otherhand must not have received a good education or you weren't smart enough to take advantage of what was given to you. (Yes, that was a slam) But seriously why the rant against teachers. I will agree that I think it is rediculous that the school districts couldn't change the insurance companies to something more cost effective. However, in Milton they did, and they did it without Act 10.
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But why the attack?

bebe53 - Thank you for your insightful and well thought out response. Very intellegent! God's Peace be with you and this state!

raystone - you don't get it, do you? Why are you letting them brain wash you into thinking that you have it so much worse than the public employees. Neither group is doing well. Public or Private! The only ones doing well are the ones creating this Divide and Conquer. Yes Walker and his kissing buddy billionaires like Hendricks!
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Stop and see what they are doing to us as a state!
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Stop bashing public employees! They are taxpayers and workers too. Everyone has different benefits in the private sector too. I get it you want a one payer health system. You want complete goverment social security. Well that isn't going to happen in our life time and I am sure many of you would be against it.
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You make it seem like the public employees are RICH. Again look to Walker and his cronies. They are only going to be getting richer off the rest of us. Please read this one...
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http://host.madison.com/business/biz_bea...
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And all this because state government passed legislation to have teachers and other state employees finally pay their share of their pension, and pay part of their health insurance - a percentage still less than private industry.

bebe53 - NEW POLL OUT!!! This should make the Big Money Divide and Conquers Happy!
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95% think it is great that Wisconsin Education will be ranked on the bottom.
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90% think Wisconsin's Women's and Veteran's shouldn't have the right to fair compensation in the courts.
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100% of the DEER HUNTERs think it is great that Walker hired the Deer Czar from Texas who opposes public hunting land and would prefer to privatize to to private game farms.
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95% of ROCK COUNTY people think it is great that the STD rate in the county is the highest in the state and Walker Doesn't care about sex education.
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100% of UNEMPLOYED Wisconsinites are happy that he lost over 23,000 jobs his first year.
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99% of Wisconsinites are happy they have a Gov under investigation and purgered himself.
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98% of FORCLOSURE people are happy Walker raided the fund given to the state to help them to pay off the state deficit that he thought was balanced.
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Chew on those Stats!
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I can't remember the other statistics but they are there.

killngrill - You don't mean Forward you mean Walkerward or Kochward or Hendricsward or Bigmoneyward.
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I think that Wisconsin does want to go Forward so it is time to vote Barrett.
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RECALL WALKER!

Walker, Walker, Walker, Walker!!!
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youkillme, No, I believe when you call someone a liar and thief and don't say why with solid proof is adolescent. All stats and evidence points to keeping Walker in office and all you have is an email or blog that says hate Walker and you simple say OKAY and don't find out truths. I've seen too much of that nonsense recently. Since ObamaCare and Occupy Madison. I didn't leave the Democrat party, they left me. Way way left, crazy left.

germancaveguy I agree. As with most all academic studies, the study I linked too included, there is always a bias. The point raised in the study is a good, the chants of terrible things happening because of the budget is nothing but rhetoric not supported by any facts. Are all the good things claimed by the budget real, of course not. Just like the claims of all the bad things "caused" by the budget being not real.

Walker did not save even one teacher job. He cut hundreds of millions in state aid from local schools and kept the money to pay for corporate tax cuts and roads. Any teachers jobs that were saved were saved on the backs of other teachers and precision balancing budgets by school districts across the state - something Walker himself never had to deal with because A.) he was now flush in ill-begotten capital gains and B.) he increased state spending by over a billion dollars. The brown bag was only for evenyone else but him.

Bowlgal - I think you mean how jobs were lost. In Milton we lost jobs last year and the district used the "Tools" of distruction. This year Milton was 1.3 million short and again had to lay off more teachers. This will only continue. Just so you know, Milton is a great school district with great teachers. The district doesn't have a lot of extras but is a great place. I feel very sorry for what those teachers have had to put up with. I only wish them well and hope we can turn this boat around and go Forward not Walkerward.

Bowlgal - I think you mean how jobs were lost. In Milton we lost jobs last year and the district used the "Tools" of distruction. This year Milton was 1.3 million short and again had to lay off more teachers. This will only continue. Just so you know, Milton is a great school district with great teachers. The district doesn't have a lot of extras but is a great place. I feel very sorry for what those teachers have had to put up with. I only wish them well and hope we can turn this boat around and go Forward not Walkerward.

Bowlgal, at this stage asking somebody why they want to recall the liar and thief is non-productive and argumentative. Hanging up on you was a good call.

I'm still on the Democrat call lists and received one today. I asked her why she was recalling the Governor. She only replied that she is a supporter for Barrett. I asked again. Fine but why the recall? She hung up on me.
I wonder how many teachers who's jobs were saved by Act 10 will vote for Governor Walker.

Wislady, THAT many Republicans have crossed over to join the recall?

wislady said, "20,000 Felons Including Killers, Arsonists, and Stalkers Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition"

And even more amazing, I heard those were the ones that had also voted for Walker in 2010. I guess that's how the Republicans got the names -- from their fundraising mailing lists.

vatoloco said, "Oh poobah, here we go with your condescension."

Oh come on vatoloco, condescending? I was being generous by saying there was one anti-education, pro-Walker group member who was literate enough to read the flyers to the others in the group.

20,000 Felons Including Killers, Arsonists, and Stalkers Signed Wisconsin Recall Petition

Interesting data (for those who care), regarding the recall petition signers.

http://putwisconsinfirst.com/wcca/

*The recall is floundering because the Dems had weak candidates. Plain and simple. *

I see you got your talking points memo emailed from the DNC. LOL.

Ezoner, nobody has ever implied that taking all the money from the wealthy will pay our debt or fix the economy, but then how in the world can tax cuts fix things? Lets' put in place a dollar-for-dollar spending cut offset by closing loopholes and a slightly higher tax rate for 4 to 6 years and our budget problems would vanish.

The division doesn't come from Walker -- That's a whopper!!

Vatoloco, Are you going to leave the state of WI when Walker gets kicked out office? Are you going to hang out with Ted Nugent and Rush Limbaugh?

I personally would like to see the national DNC and national unions stay out of this. This is between the people of Wisconsin and a governor who has pimped the state to wealthy out-of-state donors, deliberately plotted to divide the state and turned back decades of progress. If the people lose - so be it. That will send a signal to the rest of the country that we are a nation of sell-outs. That billionaires for no other reason than their wealth can impose their beliefs on others. I'll never rest until we restore Wisconsin and our country to the people no matter who wins.

Reading some of the comments would be humorous if not disturbing. The division doesnt come from Walker. That is a response to the hand delt. When you have public unions that use gang like tactics to maintain a system of benefits and compensation that nobody else has access to, they have already divided or segregated themselves from the majority of the public. You cannot expect taxpayers to continue to foot the bill. You can take ALL the income from the wealthy and wouldnt even fix a small crack in the economy. These guys criticize others for utilizing the same tactics as they apply everyday. Personally-- its time that the right uses some of the same tactics.

RAF -- Thanks for posting the link to that study. I'm always interested in reading things such as this. However, I am skeptical of the results and conclusion.

From the study--
"Conclusion
The passage of Act 10 prompted shill protests from organized labor in Wisconsin and
around the country.   Nevertheless, Wisconsin’s local governments wasted no time in
implementing it provisions, reaping annual cost savings of between $775 million and
almost $1.2 billion.    The cost savings measures prevented painful tax increases that
would have damaged the state’s private economy — resulting in slower job and income
growth.   Moreover, the provisions avoided further painful layoffs of school teachers
and other public employees.   
Other states should pay heed to Wisconsin’s early evidence of success. Institutional
rules which push public sector fringe benefits into the realm of collective bargaining
make benefit changes nearly impossible, squeezing state and local budgets at a time
when the national economy is struggling to recover. Even at this preliminary stage, that
fact is already clear.  "

Language such as this prevents me from believing this study was non-partisan by any means. Further, the model they utilize to make their predictions has the all to often result of showing that any tax increase will always result in job loss. Additionally, they do not make readily available the manner in which they apply their model.

It is these things that make a study like this one hard to value. Sure, they put in some effort. However, it appears they pushed the results toward a preconceived outcome. Think tanks like this one are why so many people are skeptical of the results of academic research.

The worst part of all of this is not that the study was done. It is the fact that people grab this stuff up as propaganda to further their already established agenda. All the while, more conservative approaches that come out of other studies get brushed under the rug regardless of their merit.

Stubby, to the anti-teacher, pro-Walker group, an "academic study" is asking the one literate person in the group to read the flyer that was put in newspaper tubes.

"An academic study" - is that code for "paid for by Tea Party activists"? In any event, i've already voted - and it wasn't for Scooter!.

More bad news for mayor tom. An academic study shows the positive results from the budget repair bill.

http://www.beaconhill.org/BHIStudies/Wis...

More trouble for mayor tom. His city has been padding the books on criminal statistics....shame...shame...shame. Oh wait, that's right this is where we all turn around and pretend it didn't happen...

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdo...

And these people actually believe their own dribble.

Lets all remember what Scott Walker is all about. He lied about his reason for going after the unions. With the cuts to middle/low income, people just are not shopping like they used to. Business will not make it. He wants to CONQUIR AND DIVIDE. He tried to put a cap on the elderly so they could not get the extra help in their homes when they needed it. Feds said no. Obama gave out money for the foreclosures to help. Walker tried to keep it. Obama got wind of it and Walker made some excuse about the debt hole. While he gave to corporations, oil and large bonuses. Should not that been for the debt? The 99% does not matter to him. With all the lies and deceit he has created to fill the pockets of the rich, is this what you want for a Governor? Think twice. Vote for someone who cares. The investigations keep going on. Do you really think he did not know what was going on in his compaigning on the computers around him in Milwaukee? Remember he was apart of the Milwaukee team of government. Vote Barret if you care about the 99%, your kids and grand kids. Walker is out to hurt. He cut into the education and gave to the 1%. Where are those so called jobs and what are they? I do not believe that man. Google it. Another lie? Lets have proof.

westorbust I tend to agree. As with most major elections, including this coming Nov presidential, the trend lately has been to pick the least of the two evils. I wish for the day to vote for a candidate because they are the best person and not just the best one that ran.

Mouse seems more than a little flustered and desperate. It's odd, she was much more positive and upbeat back when she thought the recall had a chance of success.

The recall is floundering because the Dems had weak candidates. Plain and simple. They jumped the gun, eager to force an immediate recall, had the two top contenders being Falk and Barrett, neither of which anybody really knew very well, and there you go. The public union's threw their weight behind Falk for some gawd awful reason, leaving Barrett, the only real candidate, flapping in the breeze.
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I'm no fan of Walker, at all, but the whole recall process was mishandled horribly.

mouse, waisted, whsat? Wasted what? get educated. Stop your stupid posts.

oh yes vatoloco, Justify and defend divide and conquer because your oxycontin just kicked in. Socialism has been exposed!! LOL. You are clueless about yourself and you have less of a clue about me. You blame those who oppose the jack-booted Walker thuggery as a 14% socialist minority with an iron fist.

See what I mean? There is no reasoning with this. We tried a year ago. We tried 6 months a go and again and again. They are divide and conquer and they defend it. It's very sad. Good honest hardworking people, blue or white collar are still asking questions. Hey folks, it's time to respond at the ballot box June 5th. Forget the questions. If divide and conquer is what you want - conquered is what you'll get.

Vatoloco,
DIVIDE and CONQUER WISCONSIN - VOTE SCOTT WALKER - 2012!!

It's Walker's quote but I'm fearmongering repeating it.

You're funny:)

Proud_Badger, I know this may be hard for you to believe, but I am easily one of the most anti-Walker posters here. My point is, there are no questions to ask of Scott Walker or his supporters. What would you want from them? More lies? Walker has divided our state, communities and families like no other and we're still trying to reason with these fascists? Since Walker's supporters still support and defend him after no negotiation, no compromise "divide and conquer" - I say follow the leader. If divide and conquer is so good, everyone should do the same.

DIVIDE and CONQUER WISCONSIN - VOTE SCOTT WALKER - 2012!!

youkillme - you are one sick puppy. How is unemployment treating you? Walker creating enough -20,000 jobs for you. Make sure you drink from Walker's poop infested water. You know he is spreading it everywhere.... Don't believe me read this...
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http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisc...
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Still know one wants to answer the questions from below? I seriously would like to hear your side to these questions?

That's the big problem with some of the those opposed to Scott Walker and his goons, they're still asking questions like, "Are Walker's Environmental policies helping Wisconsin?
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Is Wisconsin in a better position to educate our children and why?
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Property taxes?

Seriously, these people are dividing and conquering and we're still asking questions like that?? They got their boot on your neck, spitting in your face and destroying the community and oh....don't look now but you're being crushed.

DIVIDE and CONQUER WISCONSIN - Vote Scott Walker - 2012!!

non_grata - yes union thugs is funny. But I like Union Bosses better. Really it is the Corporate Bosses that we need to look out for.

Feduptaxpayer - please be answer one of my questions with facts. Just pick one of the questions or all of them. I don't care. But stick to the question and answer with facts.
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Don't make up your own question because I have heard your rhetoric before. My taxes went up and my service and environment are getting worse. The budget wasn't balanced. He stole money from the Forclosure fund and he said he would never raid federal funds. I don't think either party is great and all have done bad things in the past (not this bad thought).
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Please answer one of my questions!

lol union thugs, makes me laugh everytime

I would like a Walker supporter to answer one of the following questions.
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Are Walker's Environmental policies helping Wisconsin?
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Is Wisconsin in a better position to educate our children and why?
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How much did your property tax go down? (mine up $300). Do you feel that you are much wealthier because your taxes went down? Can you make your house payment now? Are you able to help stimulate the economy with this new wealth?
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Please give me a reason to vote for Walker because right now, I don't see one reason.

youkillme - very nice! Nice to think of others. What has happened to humanity and thinking well of others? Love those Walker Christian beliefs! "Do unto others..." or as Walker says "Just do others!" "Conquer and Divide"
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Recall Walker

DIVIDE and CONQUER - VOTE SCOTT WALKER - 2012

Down in flames like the Hindenburg. OH THE HUMANITY! LOL

*He can't win with his history and corruption, but he can buy it with rich corporate thug's money.*

Yeah, yeah, yeah...we heard the same thing when Nixon, Reagan, Bush41 and Bush43 won--it can't possibly be that the voters just liked the guys more, it had to be some eeeeeevil conspiracy! Again, LOL

Lets see shrek, look at part 1. Hows about social organization? Which party coinsiders us a "Christian Nation?" , WHich Party wants to teach sex education in a certain way and make laws to dictate?, Which Party wants to curb a womans right to make a choice about her own reproductive health?? Last time I checked those were not on a liberals playlist.

I would also look at the second part of that definition and attriubute it diurectly to act 10. Why is the governor so coardly that he cannot just negotiate with unions like every other one did for 50+ years? Come to the table and say,"This is what we have and thats it" My guess is because hes either too lazy to actually do his job and would rather travel the country giving speeches to Tea baggers or he doesnt want the people to see whats there when he is forced to open the books. Either way taking away groups of people working for a living right to bargain collectively seems quite authoritarian and quite lazy to me.

So you look in your mirror shrek and Ill look in mine. Just because you have an opinion about something by no means makes it a fact of any matter. In fact in this instance, your opinion is DEAD WRONG!!

fas·cism/ˈfaSHizəm/

Noun:

1.An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
2.(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

Okay Shrek whatever you say... Everything evil in the world according to your little mind is attached to Liberals. Research? Looking up the definition of fascism is easy when you have a bozo puter and Google, dont flatter yourself.

"some things to ponder....

interesting that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal, a usually left-leaning paper, endorsed Gov Walker......
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Now THAT is FUNNY!! Left-leaning? On top of being indoctrinated by Fox you people are using their repetetive terms!!
Re-elect Walker? Thats fine, the state wont be any better under total republican rule, it will be worse and they will do their best to blame it all on Obama. Its all cyclical. In the end this state will be a worse p;ace to live and raise a family. One of the things we could be proud of was our schools, now we have the dumbest Governor in our states history running it into the ground. 916 wants time for the legislation to work? Time is exactly what will show how badly this crap hurts our state. Most of the Republican repeaters on this and other sites are saying,"see, look education is fine." Not even thinking about what its doing to the kids pondering a career in ed. Ask someone who attends UWW school of ed. They are leaving in droves. No one wants to teach here anymore. The career is now completely undervalued. People like Vato and the rest of the crew want HS grads teaching 1st graders how to use a computer and be socially inept. This state is headed down a very shameful, very dim future. All in the rhetoric of inancial conditions that never really existed, and in the name of tax burden that will be only shifted further onto the individual thanks to the Governor and their continued tax extortion allowed to companies.
Lar80- werent you the guy I talked to outside the library in the rain collecting signatures for the recall? I find your post interesting at best if you truly believe that. What I find the most interesting about those who believe that government is "spending too much" why is it that the most essential programs are taking the largest cuts? There are certainly other areas of the state that should be taking much larger cuts than education and medicaid. If the Gov is so enraged about Government spending then why doesnt he give at least half of his salary back? He certainly doesnt need it! Maybe he shouldnt be handing outr very large raises to political appointees, those are tax dollars as well are they not? Where is the fake republican outrage? Instead you people demonize teachers! If I were you I would be ashamed of my short sightedness and thick headed ignorance of ALL the waste going on , keeping education strong is not a waste of money, greasing the palms of your largest donors andf appointees IS!!

I looked up the definition of fascist and found that it would be more aptly applied to those that currently call themselves "progressives" or as they used to be called "liberals" Maybe you should look in the mirror and understand what you truly are before you throw around what you consider to be derogatory terms. It sounds like you have been fed a line of thinking by someone and you dont have the energy to actually do any of your own research.

Instead of fighting among ourselves, we should be looking at the wealthy. I don't have anyting against anyone make more than me. However, to say they can't pay their share because they are job creators is crazy talk. They are no "Creator" like God! They currently have more wealth than ever before and where are the jobs? Maybe widow Hendricks could have used that $500,000 to higher more people or pay here people better. Oh yeah, she doesn't care about her employees. And the main questions is, why would the wealthy higher more people when no one is buying their goods or services. The reason they aren't buying them is because they don't have any money. Walker has helped with that too. Thus the job losses in Wisconsin.

witaxman - I think you forgot who was the Milwaukee County Exec during much of the job loss in Milwaukee? Yes Walker! And he has done such a great job creating jobs in Wisconsin. Just look at his record. Worst job loss in the nation. Wisconsin has NEVER been on that list in all her history. I think he is a bit off track for his 250,000 jobs. He won't even make 125,000 jobs at the rate he is going! Actually at the rate he is going we will be in the hole 100,000 jobs.
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Also, here is a history lesson for you... The Milwaukee Journal was left leaning. The Sentenal was right leaning. The Sentenal bought out the Journal 15 years ago. The Milwaukee Journal Sentenal has a more right leaning agenda. This is the same with the Gazette. Think about it... BIG Business! Funny how the papers don't want their people to sign recall petitions but are willing to endorse a candidate. Hypocrisy at its finest! Suppress the people I say!

There is plenty of union money and left wing interest groups and already reported fraud in early absentee voting. Feingold thinks he lost due to a lack of "get out the vote" in 2010. He lost because the majority ruled in a vote to get rid of tax and spend Democrats.
The insufferable behavior of the leftist in this state has only enhanced our resolve to protect the 2010 vote for Gov. Walker. And protect our state from the bad policies that have blanketed our great state for too long.
It may cost us 17 million dollars to do that, but we will.
I'm sure the try Democrats who claim to care for the poor and the needy would have rather seen that tax money distributed fairly elsewhere. I say tongue and cheek as by set example, they care only for themselves. Not Wisconsin, not children, not employees, and certainly not you. You who post on their behalf.

so what will the dem crybabies complain about after they lose the recall?

some things to ponder....

interesting that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal, a usually left-leaning paper, endorsed Gov Walker......

barret can't run Milwaukee, so doubtful he could manage the entire state

Gov Walker garnered more votes in the primary than ALL the dems combined

Go Scott go!

mike_smithe ... I am with you. We need campaign finance reform at both the state and federal level. It is time the politicians listen to all people not just the wealth and corporations ("corporations are people by friend")

916WI...You are right, Walker's reforms are working. They are doing what HE wants them to do. Let us recap...

EDUCATION - Less State support means less pay for teachers, fewer teachers, fewer young students wanting to go in to education. Bottom line - Education will go private and the rich will win!

ENVIRONMENT - We are seeing the effects of Walker's appointments to the DNR. They are easier on business and don't care about air and water. Look what happend in Jefferson County. The company just got slapped on the wrist for dumping human waist 3 times the allowed limit. The 40 private wells in the area may become contaminated and the people have not recourse because the DNR didn't take it to the DOJ. This is great for business not people.

HUNTING - He has named Dr. James Kroll as the Deer Czar who is a major propent of game farms and finds public land and public game management as the "last bastion of communism." Bye Bye Deer hunting unless you are rich.

SEX EDUCATION - We don't need to talk about that. Rock County has the highest STD rate in the state.

BALANCED BUDGET - Well that is questionable. He has helped his cause by raiding the money from the Forclosure Fund distributed from the Federal governement. Money which was to help the people who have lost their homes. Again good for the rich!

The list goes on...War on Women, Divide and Conquer,Jobs or lack there of, John Doe... Anyone want to continue the list for me...

Does it really matter anymore which party is in? Sick of it..only people getting rich are the politicians

Sigma40
That is the dumbest comment I have ever heard! All it means is that Walker hasn't been in Wisconsin working. He has been out of the state getting money. If he wins he will be paying the out of state interests back and Wisconsin will lose!

No fascist......The wonderful thing about it, is that all of the controversial legislation has already been pushed though by the republicans. We just need some time to let the positive effects of the legislation come to light:)

something to think about. If the ousting of Walker fails, then what? Will all of the money spent to do this recall have been wasted. I was a union member but I can see both sides of this coin, could we not have waited the full 4 years and just held a regular election and voted him out? Many people I know in other states are reading of this and asking "what is the point?"
I guess in the end, may the better man win!

I've seen the ads where the Governor Walker says he's got bad news for Tom Barrett & Milwaukee, but good news for Wisconsin.
I thought Milwaukee was part of Wisconsin.
If it's bad news for Milwaukee, and Miwaukee is part of Wisconsin wouldn't that be bad news for Wisconsin & the Governor?

If Walker wins that means hes good with money... Thats good!! Barrett cant even manage his own campaign so how would he manage our state?

Mouse, you're right, the Barrett backers aren't wasting their money....they're wasting OUR money by orchestrating the recall. I understand this election is costing the Wisconsin taxpayers upwards of $20 million. Why aren't you complaining about that? Perhaps a Walker victory (again) will shut you up once and for all, but I doubt it. Based on the number of comments you make, you apparently have nothing better to do. Just for kicks, try saying something intelligent and fact-based for once versus simply spouting off all the time.

I need to make a correction

Howard Dean and his PAC....Democracy for America.

YeeeeHaaaaaa
Howard Dean says the DNC is "all in" for the Wisconsin recall!

Sounds to me like the recall people have all but given up. I hope the lefties enjoy that vacation that G.P. recommended.

Mouse,

Thank you so much for your continuous diatribe. Your writings are the single best reason for vote for ANYONE that you do not support.

The lunacy of what you say, the stupidity of your writing, the brevity of thoughts, and the shallow comments that lack any depth or genuine insight, are all such wonderful and critically important reasons to support whatever you do not.

Now I'm just wonderin if there is ANYTHING that you approve of...

RAF: Are you sure mouse knows how to read? The way they spell shows just how illiterate mouse really is.

Wonders

Walker isn’t going to win because of his knowledge, or because of the good job you think he has done. Time after time articles has been written about Wisconsin’s job loss. You think that is going to help him win? You can’t tell me two good things he has done for our state. You don’t think the millions of dollars on tv and radio ads are going to change people minds. You for one believe every word that comes from his mouth, lies after lies. He has lied under oath and you still think his behavior is acceptable? Wisconsin will be one of the poor southern States if he keeps going. You think that taking away from education is a good thing?

Headline error: The word "leaders" should be omitted from the headline of this article. False advertising.

I don't see where the money problem is for Barrett. A million recall signatures X $25.00 each will bring parity. Time to pony up, let's see the money.

Mouse have you been reading criminal chris and dailykos again?

Leftist flop sweat. Gotta love it!

I don't know what is turning out to be more obviously boneheaded: the Democrats' self-inflicted recall loss or Obama's attempts to turn around the economy with the aid of $5 trillion in debt forced on our children and grandchildren.

bob, it's no secret the unions don't like Barrett; they're only supporting him as the lesser of 2 evils.

Dare I say you are entitled to it?

It is indeed related to money!
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Walker is seeing to it that less of it is spent, and most people approve of that.
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Jobs are looking better... Walker did not cook the new numbers either.. The new numbers came from the Governors enemies at the U.W. however,the enemies were unable supress their own work.
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Spending was out of control.. Spending is no longer out of control... Argue about whether or not a deficit exists, but at the end of that debate it is still clear that the government is spending less and is committed to not spending money it doesn't have, and are less willing to tax in order to get it.
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Former Gov. Doyle tried to bring the unions under control, but the unions ignored him and set the stage for Walker.
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Out of state money from Business or Unions on the other side have little effect on the above notions. Both sides are wasting money on this campaign.

Walker has it in the bag.
No need to waste your time voting for him.
Just stay home or go on vacation and celebrate.
Go ahead.
You deserve it.

"Some unions that were at the forefront of the recall effort have provided only limited help for Barrett, who defeated Democratic candidates who were favored by labor. Unions that spent nearly $11 million on state Senate recalls last year have yet to air an ad on behalf of Barrett."
Hmmm.....Interesting...
Also interesting to see:
"Turnout should be high. A poll released last week by Marquette University Law School poll found that 91 percent of Republicans said they were "absolutely certain" to vote, compared with 83 percent of Democrats and independents."
Where are all the affected anti Walker folks we used to see on TV that were going to loose their homes, cars, and everything else ????
Why aren't they on TV adds showing what they lost ???
Hopefully when this is over we can just get on with business......but I doubt it.....I can hear the excuses already...$$$ were the problem...People didn't get out to vote.....or what I have heard already from some anti Walker folks.."I am so mad I am not even going to vote"....Oh yah, that is a real good one..

Campaign money?

Sterling Hall bomber Armstrong arrested after $800,000 cash found in vehicle

"Armstrong was arrested but denied knowing anything about the money, only that he had $4,000 in traveling money and was returning home to Madison."

Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/c...

Tetons, I am not sure why “Walkers money appears to be winning voters”. For MONTHS all I have heard is how bad Walker is and NOTHING could ever keep him in office. Now you are saying it is all related to money? I can see it now, if Walker loses it will be because he was a bad Governor, if he wins it will be because “he had more money to spend”.

How much did walker pay to have this article run. As it states "Walker's money appeared to be winning over voters". He can't win with his history and corruption, but he can buy it with rich corporate thug's money.

RECALL WALKER