Walker touts new jobs numbers, Barrett dismissive
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker speaks during a campaign stop at a carpet story on Monday, May 14, 2012, in Oconomowoc, Wis. Walker says newly revised jobs numbers coming out Wednesday will be better than previously reported for 2011.
MADISON — Republican Gov. Scott Walker released better 2011 jobs figures on Wednesday in an attempt to rebuff a central argument of those trying to recall him from office that Wisconsin's economy has suffered under his leadership.
Walker faces a rare recall election June 5 spurred mostly by anger over his successful push to strip most public workers of collective bargaining rights last year, but also by his stewardship of the state economy.
Walker swept to office on the promise to add 250,000 private sector jobs during his first four-year term, and initial figures gleaned from monthly employment surveys suggested Wisconsin actually lost 33,900 jobs last year, which would rank it last among the 50 states.
The initial figures gave Democrats and their candidate, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, powerful ammunition with which to attack Walker's record. Then on Wednesday, the governor took the unusual step of releasing fourth-quarter data due out in the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' June 28 national employment report that show Wisconsin added 23,300 public and private sector jobs last year.
The new numbers are a more accurate reflection of what's happening, but they still show very slow job growth for the state, said University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Andrew Reschovsky. Since they're being released early, it's impossible to tell how Wisconsin compares to other states, he said.
"The real story is the picture of anemic job growth in Wisconsin over 2011, very far from the goal that the governor set," Reschovsky said. "They tell us the economy, if it is growing, it's at a slow pace."
The difference between the new numbers and what is released monthly lies in how the numbers were generated.
The new numbers come from the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages, produced for inclusion in the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' national report to be issued on June 28 — more than three weeks after the recall. Those figures are based on actual job counts reported by 160,000 Wisconsin employers as required by law as part of their tax and unemployment insurance reports.
The numbers that had previously been reported monthly and used by Walker and everyone else as a gauge of how well he was meeting his job-creation promise came from the Current Employment Survey, which surveys about 5,500 employers, or 3.5 percent of Wisconsin businesses.
Wisconsin and every other state rely on the survey for reporting job creation numbers until those figures are updated based on final figures from the quarterly census.
The data released Wednesday by Walker more accurately reflects the job market in Wisconsin and is supported by other positive indicators, including a spike in the amount of tax money collected, said Brian Jacobsen, an economist with Wells Fargo Funds Management in Menomonee Falls.
It doesn't tend to get as much attention because there's a six-month lag in what is reported, versus a two-month lag in the monthly data, he said. The monthly information, because it is based on such a small sample of businesses, is "fraught with problems," Jacobsen said.
Releasing the data now, ahead of when the Bureau of Labor Statistics processes it, is "unconventional and unusual, but it's not unethical or illegal," Jacobsen said. While the numbers are preliminary, the bureau typically only makes clerical revisions to the numbers submitted by the states, he said.
Barrett, who will face off with Walker in the upcoming recall vote, said Walker was "cooking the books" and he had no idea whether any of the numbers released Wednesday were accurate.
"He's clearly scrambling to do everything he can to put himself in a better light," Barrett said.
Walker held a news conference last summer to tout monthly jobs numbers based on the Current Employment Survey that showed dramatic improvement in Wisconsin. But as the recall has neared, and the jobs numbers showed Wisconsin had the worst record of any state in job creation, he's looked to distance himself from them.
Walker embraced the new numbers and launched a television ad touting them hours after they became public.
"Mayor Barrett, you said this election is about jobs; I couldn't agree more," Walker said in the ad.
Speaking to reporters earlier Wednesday, Walker said the numbers can't be denied.
"No matter what you feel about the timing, no matter what you feel about the process, the facts are the facts and facts don't lie," Walker said after speaking at a meeting of the Independent Business Association of Wisconsin, in Brookfield.
Reggie Newson, the secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development and a Walker appointee, said he did not consult with Walker about releasing the information early and his decision to do so had nothing to do with the pending recall vote.
"We felt the need to share it with the public because employers, job creators and job seekers need to know the truth about the actual job picture in Wisconsin so they can make informed decisions," Newson said on a conference call.
The latest jobs numbers for the month of April, which are based on the survey Walker is attempting to discredit, are to be released on Thursday. That will be the final such release before the recall.
A new Marquette University Law School poll released Wednesday shows voters believe Walker would do a better job than Barrett in creating jobs, 48 percent to 41 percent. At the same time, 37 percent said they believed the state lost jobs over the past year, compared with 20 percent who believe there have been job gains.
The random telephone poll of 704 registered voters has a margin of error of 3.8 percentage points and was conducted between May 9 and Saturday.
The poll also showed Walker ahead of Barrett 50 percent to 44 percent among 600 likely voters, with a margin of error of 4.1 percentage points on that question.
Associated Press writer Dinesh Ramde contributed to this report from Brookfield.
May 20, 2012 at 9:07 p.m.
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Poor I was thinking more around July but whatever. Hard to hand huge responsibility over for a mess that large that soon, but I think we are in agreement partially. The problem we have is what are the main causes for the explosion in debt and defecit? Depending on who you ask, I happen to think that the gigantic wars and tax cuts done at the same time are huge reasons ' and that goes back to the Bush plan. The bailouts the bank bailout, or shall we call it the bonus program stabilizer for Wall street was over 40 times larger than the auto bailout that kept 2 million people working. Bailouts and corporate welfare handed out daily is a far greater problem than any social program helping families who really are in need. Unfortunately many conservative politicians and more so their followers want to label poor people as all lazy good for nothings who are mostly lazy , which is absolutely not the case,but seems to resonate with many conservative voters.
May 20, 2012 at 4:15 a.m.
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Breaking News: "At a time when Wisconsin's jobs statistics are under scrutiny as never before, preliminary data released Thursday showed that Wisconsin lost an estimated 6,200 private-sector jobs in April.
This is the second consecutive month of private-sector job losses in the state, according to the report from the state Department of Workforce Development."
May 19, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
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Wislady, fedup, bebe, et.al. This is about Walker's magical numbers. About his using numbers that are not considered standard benchmark numbers -- polling households can reflect people working out of state, polling employers can reflect workers who live out of state. The standard used across the nation by every state and the federal government is a standard because of accuracy and the ability to compare apples to apples. If the method to collect the data is changed, it is unreliable and highly subject to question. Walker continues to mislead the public in his "transparent" style. When will you roll over and accept that he is sticking it to the citizens of this state, big time.
May 19, 2012 at 9:19 a.m.
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fear-My rational thought for today (which may prove to be fuzy-no sleep last nite) I would say Obama's blame would start somewhere around April/May 2010.
That's about a year and a half-should be long enough I guess. Now the point where we differ is the long period of growth-I don't believe we are growing at all. Some segments are ahead
(stock market), some behind (housing). The bail outs left too many losers and did little to grow the economy. And the enormous deficit
increase in the last 2-1/2 to 3 years is frightening. I guess the bottom line for me is I think a better job should have been done to put out the dumpster fire.
May 18, 2012 at 8:30 p.m.
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Missing - Tom Barrett's Plan To Fix Wisconsin
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May 18, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
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"your brain is about as iinoperable "
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Yeah, okay.
May 17, 2012 at 11:57 p.m.
May 17, 2012 at 11:14 p.m.
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Poor richard these are for you:
Job Losses By Month 2008:
January 2008: 76,000 jobs lost
February 2008: 76,000 jobs lost
March 2008: 80,000 jobs lost
April 2008: 20,000 jobs lost
May 2008: 62,000 jobs lost
June 2008: 62,000 jobs lost
July 2008: 51,000 jobs lost
August 2008: 84,000 jobs lost
September 2008: 284,000 jobs lost
October 2008: 240,000 jobs lost
November 2008: 533,000 jobs lost
December 2008: 524,000 jobs lost
Job Losses By Month 2009:
January 2009: 650,000 jobs lost (including 64,500 on Bloody Monday)
February 2009: 651,000 jobs lost
March 2009: 663,000 jobs lost
April 2009: 539,000 jobs lost
May 2009: 345,000 jobs lost
June 2009: 467,000 jobs lost
July 2009: 247,000 jobs lost
August 2009: 216,000 jobs lost
September 2009: 263,000 jobs lost
October 2009: 190,000 jobs lost
November 2009: 11,000 jobs lost
December 2009: 85,000 jobs lost
I have found differing numbers from different sources depending once again on the calculator your using but Ill agree to the BLS stats, I believe these are the ones.
Now Startin in January 2009 where we shed 650k Jobs. Where would you start blaming the losses DIRECTLY on Obama? Right away? February? I am asking because I believe that you are capable of rational thought. The total Job loss of 2008-2009 was over 6 million. When is the time okaywith you to start taking blame from the previous administration and handing it to Obama. Lets be honest here he was handed an ABSOLUTE dumpster fire. At what point did his policies take effect and cause these job losses?
3 million jobs lost in his first 8 months. 3 MILLION , again at what point will you cast blame on him? At what point do we start giving credit for such a long period of growth following this mess? You realize the GDP receeded by 9% in the last quarter in 2008!!!
May 17, 2012 at 11 p.m.
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This is your brain (wiggle,poobah,ykm, poorrichard,usaret,spark and occasionally very rarely vato) , this is your brain on drugs (RAF, bebe, fedup,witchlady, ozzman, kaystew) any questions??
The bottom group of people have literally turned into cartoon charecters, looney tunes if you will.
May 17, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
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May 17, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
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bebe53
May 17, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
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vato-actually I think feardummy is more like Sgt "I know nothing!!" Schulz from the Stalag 13 series
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Bahahahahahahahahaha I haven't thought of srg Schultz in years, but now that you mention it, is that not what walker is saying about all the corruption going on under his nose by his friends he hired "I know nothing" about what happened 20 feet away from me?
Thanks bebe you just proved repubs are the one saying "corruption? really? people I hired? My friends? I know nothing."
Bahahahahahahahahahaha
And honey the show was called Hogan's Heros
May 17, 2012 at 7:19 p.m.
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20% more.
May 17, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
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Walker keeps cooking the books hoping someone will believe in him. News out today that the new MU poll that put him up by 6 points changed their base to include more 120% more conservatives and less liberals and moderates.
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This one's still a dead heat folks. The winner will be the side that gets more people to the polls.
May 17, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.
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fear-Glad you found that-its somewhat close to what you said but for three months not six. My stats came from Dept of Labor website. I still think that the stimulus didn't work. Why wouldn't I when even the President joked that there wasn't many shovel ready jobs-most of it went for pork.
May 17, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
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vato are you home less? I meant own a home, have responsibilities that type of thing. Take it easy Greg the hammer Valentine.
May 17, 2012 at 1:40 p.m.
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Poor- Ready??
On average, the economy lost about 752,000 jobs per month in the first three months of 2009,
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
May 17, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
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Taxed2much nothing else?? A little sensitive? In my 20s I was the kind of guy to stomp on someone for dumb comments like that, being that I in my hey day used to be quite the tough guy like you must think you are now.
Now that I have a family and a home I use my brain, you should try it sometime, its invigorating.
May 17, 2012 at 11:33 a.m.
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Let me ask a simple question to the repubs that can understand math. If there are any!
If WI is at the top of job losses among all states how could we have gained 33,000 jobs in a year and it not be plastered all over the news?
And if walker goes to a company for a photo op when they hire 60 people where has he been when the 33,000 jobs where filled?
Not to mention how the nation is blasting walker for pulling BS numbers outta his underware to make himself look good when it's been reported WI lost over 20,000 jobs in just a 3 month span.
Oh but the repubs only follow their lying leader and won't believe the TRUE numbers collected from a source OUTSIDE WI that has no interest in the recall.
Repubs are the ones who can't think for themselves, they prove that over and over every day! Repubs have small minds that's why they are so easily led by fake numbers, simply because they can"t add or subtract.
See what happens when education is not important you repubs!
May 17, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
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I see the Walker supporters continue to dance around the fact that even if the new numbers are correct, they still show an incredibly anemic local job market. Frankly, I don't think the numbers would have been much different had Barrett initially won. Bigger forces at play, but anything to justify some tasty right wing social agendas.
May 17, 2012 at 9:28 a.m.
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"Why doesn't Tom Barrett tout his job numbers from Milwaukee?"
Tom Barrett doesn't tout his numbers because he's not a liar. Barrett could easily cook up his own numbers like Walker did and then ignore or label critics as politically motivated. Just like Walker did. But Barrett is honest. Walker's not.
May 17, 2012 at 8:52 a.m.
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fear-Please show me where you found that 800,000 jobs lost per month for 6 months you stated. The most I could find was 533,000.
Also the most jobs lost in one year was 2.4 million. You forgot to mention the collapse of the housing market I believe caused by Dodd-Frank. The massive stimulas package did zero good. If Bush was to blame for anything its that he didn't push harder to revise the laws that regulated the banks that Dodd and Frank were protecting. We are still paying the price.
May 17, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
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Why doesn't Tom Barrett tout his job numbers from Milwaukee?
By the way, does anyone think it appropriate that taxpayer funded Milwaukee DPW trucks have Recall Walker stickers on them?
May 17, 2012 at 7:53 a.m.
May 17, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
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RAF has become kaysbrew. Sad sad times. One line nothingness, endless repeating. Gotta love it.
May 17, 2012 at 5:06 a.m.
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Another interesting list oF FALSE CLAIMS made by Walker compiled by politifact.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/...
May 17, 2012 at 5:01 a.m.
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Estimated from surveys of 3-1/2% can be very incorrect and usually are throughout the year.
These final numbers by federal law must be submitted to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT by employers of all their work force by May 16th each year. 150,000 of them in Wisconsin alone.
This, of course, could help Pres. Obama in the nationwide numbers if it weren't for states like Illinois and California.
Anyone who thinks Walker is "cooking" is completely uneducated. I realize this is a blow to the recall people but the policies are working and the foundation is set for much bigger and better news for Wisconsin once Walker is retained and Obama is ousted.
May 17, 2012 at 4:53 a.m.
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Scott Walker also used his creative math as County Executive in Milwaukee, Interesting that this new math comes weeks before recall vote.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...
May 17, 2012 at 4:42 a.m.
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"Scott Walker Dislikes Job Numbers, So He'll Put Out His Own" ONE of the MANY headline stories that are all over on how Scott Walker has created new make believe numbers. He can also turn water into wine.
May 17, 2012 at 1:49 a.m.
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Did you lose any of your magical powers when the cloak fell off, RAF?
May 17, 2012 at 1:35 a.m.
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The cloak is falling off the trolls back.
May 17, 2012 at 1:24 a.m.
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Haha, you've got to love this. RetiredAirForce double posted the following:
"No2 you double posting tactic between blogs is shedding light on your other accounts."
[ http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2012/may... ] and [ http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates... ]
May 17, 2012 at 1:14 a.m.
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No2 you double posting tactic between blogs is shedding light on your other accounts.
May 17, 2012 at 12:28 a.m.
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May 16, 2012 at 11:55 p.m.
May 16, 2012 at 10:27 p.m.
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I knew it was just a matter of time till the desperation drove some of the local partisans to invoke Hitler and Fascism relative to Walker. The sad thing is that kind of baloney won't help. It won't even be much consolation throwing that kind of garbage around after the election if Walker wins, as his detractors are starting to believe he will too. But some folks just can't control their emotions, I guess. They are becoming overwhelmed with self-pity and the urge to lash out overcomes them, poor souls.
May 16, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.
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poorrichard, you know he's cooking the books to make himself look better than what has actually happened. If you and the sheep are still good with that, have at it.
May 16, 2012 at 10:08 p.m.
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i think walkers camp must of hired Kathy Nickolaus if she can discover missing votes , why not missing jobs. seems like her kind of math working here
May 16, 2012 at 9:59 p.m.
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I am tired of hearing the whinning poor and those who care about them. Where are the concentration camps where we can help them lose weight (I hear pumpkin soup with enough salt is pretty tasty) and show them how to work for - well nothing?
May 16, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
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Read the article below on Walkers new miracle job growth and laugh and laugh and laugh. Yes - it is true - Walker has changed WATER INTO WINE.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...
May 16, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.
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So, why is the sentencing of gov Walkers aide being postponed until July? hmmm
http://www.channel3000.com/news/Sentenci...
May 16, 2012 at 9:01 p.m.
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More proof of the great work that Gov. Walker is doing. When will you union bums admit he has done good things for Wisconsin and it's people?
May 16, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
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News flash: Scott Walker releases new data that moon is really made of cheese. Tea party faithful buying stock in crackers.
May 16, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
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I believe that our economy being where its at is a minor miricale as is. Had Obama had the guts to stand firm on the Bush tax cuts wed be even better off.
Why do we have huge debt/defecit? Unpaid for wars and tax cuts arent the only reasons but they shore do contribute. The CBO believes them to be the biggest reasons for the explosion. Yet you dont hear Paul Ryan harping on that do you? You hear about how elderly peoples health care is the problem.
May 16, 2012 at 7:57 p.m.
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poor I also ask you this in three years , understnding the gravity of the crisis as we now do, what on Earth did you expect from Obama? If you had told me 27 months of growth, I would have been jumping up and down.
May 16, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.
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poor my mind is wide open. The economy was shedding 800k jobs a month when Obama was sworn in. for the first 6 months it was doing so. Since then we have added jobs every single month. Why shouldnt we blame Bush for the majority of the economic troubles? The crisis happened right at the tail end of his presidency. After 8 years of ignoring financial markets and essentially letting investment banks write the rules of leverage, the economy collaped. Under 3+ years of Obama, like it or not it has recovered. Maybe not as quickly as some would have liked, but it is recovering. Obama was being a fool for promising a quicker recovery, but no one knew how bad it was screwed.
Opening of the mind is something I would suggest to anyone who likes to blame debt/defecit on Obama as well. He certainly isnt free of guilt. At least he has had the guts to Budget the wars instead of putting them on a credit card. Why were there no heuge defecits during the Bush years? because he borrowed the money to make the illusion of smallish defecit. Budgeting for HUGE wars makes the defecit rise. the financial crisis alone caused our debt to mre than double. So please, if you suggest an open mind I suggest the same dfrom a non partisan point of view.
Vato, what are you talking about?
May 16, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.
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Sad to say - another Walker big fish story. From worst in the nation to this...lol. The man always has this strange look on his face when he is talking. I imagine it is because he MUST remember the PREVIOUS STORY / CLAIM and make sure he repeats it the same way. Plus Mr "Conquer & Divide alias: Mr. RED STATE must also remember if he is talking to a rich donor or someone else so he can get his story correct. Hey Scotty tell us the story about the 2003 Bears-Stearns bid on th Milwaukee County restructure contract with one of your buddies. It is an amazing story of... Check it out...
http://www.mcguigan.org/Column-Bears-Ste...
May 16, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
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Dems have now filed a complaint against Walker....guess they really can't stand the facts.
May 16, 2012 at 7 p.m.
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fear-Some things you say are true-Obama did take office in the middle of a giant financial
crisis but for three years he keeps blaming Bush-To many people,myself included, he was playing the blame game and not doing anything. As far as Osama Bin Laden, right on these posts, he was vilified way more from the lefties than the righties for that. If I remember correctly Bush was and still is being blamed for 9/11 even though he was in office only 8 months. I to could go and on, but fear, facts DO matter, you just have to open your eyes and your mind.
May 16, 2012 at 6:19 p.m.
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I would not believe any thing walker said other then being bull
May 16, 2012 at 6:14 p.m.
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Starting to wonder if these numbers were put forth ahead of what could be potentially bad political news for the Gov tomorrow. I guess we wont know until then. Maybe a way to curb reality a bit or soften the blow? Speculation on my part but we know how much republicans like speculation, I thought I would join the club if only for a minute.
May 16, 2012 at 6:12 p.m.
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Facts please, EXCELLENT!! I did not know that +1 !! Post of the day!! Most families with kids have at least 1 parent with 2 jobs, at least most of the ones I know do.
May 16, 2012 at 6:11 p.m.
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Just listened to channel 3, Madison and they said the numbers are NOT certified. In other words more FABRICATED NUMBERS FROM WALKER.
May 16, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
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""You would think that some good news on jobs would nice to know.""
Yes Richard if it werent swinning in political recalculations for an election. This is only to garner votes, period, ot to encourage people. The reality you can change the numbers if you like by changing the method of calculation, Wisconsin is still in the basement. I would also then say that the recalculation would greatly improve the numbers nationally as well, and we wouldnt want that now would we?
May 16, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
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Because Poor richard the numbers stack up in Obamas favor. Any other politician presides over 27 straight months of job growth in the private sector he is a hero.Especially after what he came into. Why is it that so few of you acknowledge that he took office during the worst financial crisis in a generation and want top blame it on him? Why is it that Obama makes a very difficult decision to get Osama Bin Laden and chastized for it? Gets us in and out of Libya quickly , on the cheap compared to Afghanistan/ iraq and is held up by republicans and supporters as being weak? Offers a health care plan born at the Heritage foundation and is a socialist?
I could go on and on and on. If 9/11 had happened during Obamas tenure he would have been absolutely destroyed for it. He has been FAR more successful than Bush ever was in the War on Terror yet I continue to see commentators trying to hand credit for victories in that War to Bush/Cheney!! Funny about 9/11 is that Hannity blamed Bill Clinton over and over , but the state of the economy is 100% in the court of Obama.
The world of double standards is amazing, and even more evident in the Obama administration, just makes me wonder. If you take away name and party and list the things he has done during his presidency he would be a hero to most Americans.
On the flip side the Walker administration has Wisconsin in the basement in Job creation, 6 straight months of job losses , and he is your hero. What I want to know outside the rhetoric Richard is why? If its bad its Obamas fault, if its good its because of Scott Walker? How can you NOT doubt motivation? I am NOT saying all who dislike Obama and adore Walker are racist, I would just argue that the component DEFINITELY exists.
If Obama at noon says its daytime republicans will tell you its midnight. Just the partisan world we live in. Facts just dont matter anymore.
May 16, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
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4bears-These "thrown together numbers" are from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics-
It might help if you read the whole article instead of just the headline. You would think that some good news on jobs would nice to know.
May 16, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.
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Why is it that the "hate" for Obama is racially motivated but the "hate" for Walker is because of his politics? I'm not stupid enough to believe some people do "hate" Obama for his race but most don't like the direction the country is headed not because of race.
Also I don't like using the word "hate"-this is one reason why things are as they are-on both sides.
May 16, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
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Motorman is correct on the taxes and hitler comparison, but they would have to see a TV commercial to tell them to support him. Then cast their vote.
May 16, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.
May 16, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.
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Nice job at misleading. you new handle should be Bobby the brain Heenan.
""hand out free healthcare"" I certainly never advocated for that. Nationalized care isnt free its just a system where everyone pays, because everyone uses the system. It would take the stress away from so many employers to cover a large chunk of their employees insurance. Remember if you can Bobby the individual mandate is born by Republicans and the Heritage foundation, not by Obama or even your new Morman superman Mittens. Now because the "owner of the plantation" ironically enough a black president puts forth the idea, its now socialistic re-creation of America. Hysterically hilarious(done to the tune of Magically delicious , Lucky charms)
Almost every other industrialized nation on Earth has a form of socialized medicine and they all cost so much less than ours. Not going to re-hash this because its always to easy to beat up on the repeaters about Health care but the proof is in the statistics, not the rhetoric.
May 16, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
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"There are people on this board who would support Hitler if he lowered their taxes."
I'm sure some of them did.
May 16, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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How transparent is this ? The real numbers they have been using all along must be horrendous. So, lets run out some numbers we've thrown together the day before, and throw in some lame polling. Better yet we can get the Gazette to put in on the front page of the website. After everything he has pulled, the fact the "media" just follows in lockstep is pathetic.
May 16, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
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http://www.bls.gov/cew/cewfaq.htm
Because the QCEW data is based on an establishment census which counts only filled jobs, it is likely that a multi-job holder will be counted two or more times in QCEW data.
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So how many people now have multiple jobs to make ends meet?
May 16, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.
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As to the Marquette Law School Poll- Are the law students walking through the law offices of Michael Best and polling them? That might be where they're getting their results.
May 16, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.
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April job numbers released tomorrow by the BLS if they are negative get ready for the spin. The number doctoring, etc.... If they are positive Walker will win, simple as that. Tomorrows numbers may be the election, maybe not, but unless Walker is charged in the John Doe case , it will be hard for barrett a subpar candidate in the first place to replace this substandard Governor.
May 16, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
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""Manufacturing is dead......"" If that is true then so is America, mark my words , this nation will NEVER succeed by making all work High tech, unfortunately many arent cut out or it, so what sha;ll we do withem Vato? Feed them to the wolves? Your main problem as always is that poor people, or bottom dwellars, as you call them dont work hard. My contention is that they are probably the hardest working class in this nation as a whole. They just get stepped on more than the rest.
Acting as if we can just not make anything here and put everyone into high skill jobs is unbelievably DUMB. Unfortunately through no fault of their own in many cases some just dont have it. Your backhanded attacks on education arent working. Also your attacks on Obama as some kind of trap door as to turning local issues into national ones wont work either.
May of your ideas would be great if they were in anyway based in a shred of reality. The fact of the matter is if we actually have no manufacturing in this nation anymore our nation will crumble. We and are on our way to being a third world nation./ It has nothing to do with "liberal" thinking, its shortsightedness and greed of the few as opposed to what may be good for the advancement of our society here. If we expect the world to make everything for us and we make nothing, our middle class will be gone forever, and the middle class like it or not is what made this nation great.
May 16, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.
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change the way you figure it then compare it to the old numbers .......hmmmm maybe he should go back to college and take a math class. he might as well just get a shovel an dig his hole deeper himself. and you all seem to forget walker had a hand in how milwaukee has turned out , he was over in that county from 2002 -2010 . some of his policy caused some of their financial problem you cant get to a job if your transit system is basically shut down to get there
May 16, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
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Tom Barrett would be dismissive about jobs. Look at his record. Instead of being happy about Wisconsinites working, they blame and cry foul for releasing the report before the recall.
so true to form these liberals.
May 16, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.
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Endorsed - pardon my typo
May 16, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.
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You are right analertcitizen, until Ryan and Johnson endorced Romney. As I said, there is three more weeks for things to change.
May 16, 2012 at 3 p.m.
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@bowlgal- You may be right but the Marquette Law School poll placed Santorum in a lead over Romney in early April. How did that work out?
May 16, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
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I don't think polls could be completely accuate. It's just another poll that reflects the same numbers 3 other polls released.
Democrat and Republican polls all show the same.
That's all. Walker in the lead same as before Democrat tantrums, same as 2010, same as last week. Public opinion as not changed.
May 16, 2012 at 2:41 p.m.
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Bowlgal how accurate can that poll be when they polled 704 registered voters? There are 3,419,127 registered voters in Wisconsin. They polled roughly .00021% of the voting population in Wisconsin. How many were republicans, democrats or independents? Alot of holes in that one.
May 16, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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*Barrett says he has no idea whether the new figures are accurate.*
He could have stopped at "idea" and still have been correct. Lulz.
May 16, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.
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If these revised numbers aren't good enough for you, they will be glad to revise them again to any numbers you want for a donation of $500,000. Free kiss and hug included.
May 16, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
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Spend other peoples money?? I pay taxes too. I am tired of this banter. You support the Wlaker idea of spending 100 million dollars in Milwaukee to lift up the community? Who do you suppose will get the great majority of that 100 million dollars of "other peoples money"?? Maybe , Idont know, some certain contractors that donated? You are so dog gone hypocritical its funny. The republicans are as guilty if not moreof ":spending other peoples money" and yet you continue this partisan blather as if it means anything?
May 16, 2012 at 2:22 p.m.
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https://law.marquette.edu/poll/
I hope this new poll out today proves that we are sick and tired of the Democrats and unions telling us we don't like Walker. No matter what they tried to pull, they haven't moved the needle on public opinion.
May 16, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
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What should they do vato? The lowest earners or "bottom dwellars" as you so nicely put it many times work 2-3 jobs and struggle to pay rent in a bad neighborhood. You enjoy kicking people while they are down. You want less spending on social programs that would help lift the "bottom dwellars" up so that maybe our society my be better from it? Maybe your blanket assumptions about poor people should be revised, because MILLIONS of families live in poverty because the government made it easier for them to move their operations to China for pennies on the dollar , forcing so many bottom dwellars into situations that that are impossible to deal with. Ever been to Detroit?? Hows about Flint?? Forget the union jobs what about the tens of millions oof non union workers that are forced into jobs paying half or less than half of what they already made??
I am all for cutting spending, but this constant blame game and blaming poor folks who are being put at more and more of a disadvantage daily, is ridiculous. There are plenty of specialinterests in this nation that are getting HUGE tax breaks and grants that they dont need. So many republicans talk about how we should have let the auto industry fail, why not have let the banks fail? That bailout cost us almost 70 times more, and those corrupt SOBs are sytill pulling the same old crap!! See JP Morgan.
I have posted NUMEROUS examples of spending that I believe to be horrific, more so than any other poster on this website, yet vato , you want to chastize me? Hows about real rage and controlling all political spending in all arenas. Taking private money out of politics completely would be one of the largest steps in the right direction. Term limits of 1 term for every politician would also change it. Make politics civil service again, and not this game of money and power. ANd let me tell you this Scott Walker is a PRIME example of just this. You tink he really cares about Wisconsin taxpayers that dont contribiute to his campaign??Really??
May 16, 2012 at 2:11 p.m.
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Yeah, and what did Dianne Hendricks have to say about it???
May 16, 2012 at 2 p.m.
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Freebird you talk of union bullying. What bullying are you refering too?
May 16, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.
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We ALL know (like Walker or not) that is a lot better than former Jim, the raid all departments, Doily ever did!!
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May 16, 2012 at 1:51 p.m.
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Taxed 2 much would you like a cracker? That line is old. As is your thinking. Some of us would like a responsible tax code here and nationally where businesses an wealthy folks pay equally. 66% of businesses pay no income tax , and you wonder why you feel like your taxed to much?its because we all pick up the slack for them, you couldn't buy a clue. Cut taxes and education? Sure , how has that worked for Mississippi? The most uneducated and lowest earning state in the union. Not to mention the most conservative.
May 16, 2012 at 1:15 p.m.
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for those that would like to tax our way out of the problem please move to Califonia. How has that worked for them?
May 16, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
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Does this guy have any other outfits in his closet other than a blue shirt and red tie?
May 16, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
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Barrett dismissive alright, just look at his city. I just heard the DNC is pulling it's funding for this recall. Two things, Barrett is in trouble (no more money). Obama is in trouble (needs more money).
May 16, 2012 at 1 p.m.
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Says vatoloco at
May 16, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
"While Barrett claims Walker has cooked the books, it is safe to say that Barrett has charred Milwaukee County with debt."
Ah but who was Milwaukee County executive during that same period of time? Your boy Scooter Walker, who shares the blame!
May 16, 2012 at 1 p.m.
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Walker's doctored the numbers, he's a liar, he's stupid. Anyone who accepts these numbers is too. Wow, I didn't expect that reaction from you guys!!! I’m flabbergasted!!!
Like Barrett, some of Barrett's supporters are getting desperate. They spent some cold days standing near the post office holding "RECALL WALKER" signs, collecting signatures, rallying at and trashing the Capitol Building in frenzied partisanship. The polls and the desperation suggest it may have all been a waste of time and energy. A lot of folks developed a strong emotional attachment to the overthrow of Walker. So much so that they even went so far as to exult in their victory almost before they started let alone won. Now it’s slipping away.
I could almost feel sorry for them if they hadn't shown so much hatred for anyone who disagrees with them. Still, come June 6th, if they loose like even they are starting to believe is a possiblity as their nasty desperation shows, they are going to be in for some real misery. Poor souls.
May 16, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
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Speaking of acting stupid, freebird instead of blaming Jim Doyle for all of the job losses, why dont you get specific how Jim Doyle was responsible for the global economic crisis that cost tens of millions of jobs worldwide and millions nationide. I would enjoy any sililoquy that you would be able to provide some proof how Doyle was directly responsible for job loss in Wisconsin. Try to remember I never voted for him or liked him. That being said this stupidity being put forth by the Walker Cult is amazingly repetetive, and amazingly simpleminded and dumb.
May 16, 2012 at 12:23 p.m.
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Walker would get rid of the min wage if he could , we would all be working for $2.50 @ hour if he had it his way .
May 16, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
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And the prize for humor writing goes to Scott Walker.
May 16, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
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Vote for Walker because WI should STAY 50th on the list of job creation. Vote walker because we want a gov that is being investigated for corruption. Vote walker because he is good at "my way or the highway". Vote walker because he gives bonuses to his buddies while saying we are broke. Vote walker because he spends much of his time outside the state. Vote walker because he will sell WI to the highest bidder.
May 16, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
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I will laugh at everyone of you ignorant people when he gets re-elected and finishes what he has created lol if he gets recalled then im leaving this state... I'm sick of us being in debt and scott walkers the only one who's going to change that. Im from the milwaukee area and TOM BARRETT has destroyed milwaukee's economy!!!
May 16, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
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Yes, Koch_Bros, it's these short articles that result in the ads being crammed right next to each other that makes them seem so numerous. Maybe the Gazette should double or triple-space really short articles or include lots of photos. As I'm sure you've learned from the voluminous conservative media that you finance, the Gazette could pick up conservative readership if they used more photos and less text.
May 16, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
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Scotty's in a pinch before the recall so he's changing numbers to make him look good because of the number of jobs lost is more than he supposedly made. I will be glad he's gonna be going bye bye very soon!
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