RetiredAirForce said, "tele78 interesting observation. A "fake" name was never questioned."

Oh, but it was! Check out Iamagainstthisbsrecall's comment made on June 20, 2012 at 8:11 p.m. about the woman using the fake name of Stella Cane.

tele78, I suggest you take the comment made to you by RetiredAirForce with a grain of salt. She apparently failed to understand that you were commenting about Iamagainstthisbsrecall's comment about a fake name and not about her indefatigable thinking that I use multiple usernames. Or perhaps she just wanted to add another comment on the road to 10,000 comments. She has only 339 to go now!

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tele78 interesting observation. A "fake" name was never questioned. Perhaps if you took the time to read the user policy agreement for posting on this site two unique things would be more clear. The first using only one account the second impersonate anyone else. Was there anything else of substance you wished to add or was that about it?

If you are all all so flipped out about a "fake" name, then why do you use a screen name on here? Duh! That's the pot calling the kettle! Samuel Clemens was - MARK TWAIN!

And she probably uses that name because of wackjobs like you who are on a witch hunt because she exercises her 1st Amendment right to protest. You righties get pretty extreme and threatening.

Only in a troll's mind is answering a question considered a deflection and off topic.

Your last two comments have been deflections and off-topic -- as have the majority of your 9,643 comments. Only 357 more comments to go to 10,000 unsolicited comments. Last word, like the last car on the train, is all yours, RetiredCaboose! Have at it!

LOL. The fact is all you do is deflect away from the topic and issues. Your latest comment just builds on your history.

And who asked you to make any of your 9,640 comments, RetiredAirForce. Do you have some elite privilege to offer comments not extended to others?

"References to those programs helped to explain the history and origin of gun running involving the Mexican drug cartels"
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As usual not a single person requested your perception of history, nor did they ask you to explain programs run by any other administration. Nor did they ask if you thought Obama was protecting documents for the Bush administration for the gulf war. Nor did they ask you questions about a congressperson's history from decades ago. Your perception of others needing your input is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps you need to look up the meaning of deflection...

That is not an excuse, RetireAirForce. As I previously said, "References to those programs helped to explain the history and origin of gun running involving the Mexican drug cartels." Thanks again for stopping by to agree with me.

"I didn't see anyone trying to "excuse" Fast and Furious based on the Bush administration's..."
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Yet your first comments on the subject were typical of you, deflection. "Maybe he is hiding documents that would prove George W. Bush and Dick Cheney knew all along there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Or maybe he is hiding documents that show Bush had been briefed that Al Qaeda was planning to commandeer commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings."

You progressed from that deflection to bringing up Issa's and Bush's past. Not a single word on the topic at hand without deflection. Your pattern is getting old.

Thank you for stopping by to agree with me, RetiredAirForce. I didn't see anyone trying to "excuse" Fast and Furious based on the Bush administration's Operation Gun Runner and Operation Wide Receiver. References to those programs helped to explain the history and origin of gun running involving the Mexican drug cartels.

I agree that any gun walking program is a bad idea. Trying to excuse the current one because is done in the past also is like forgiving a murder because one has happened before, both wrong. The big difference between the administrations was one cooperated with Mexico and one didn't. One stopped it after it learned weapons couldn't be tracked properly and the other stopped it after whistle blowers came forward and after hundreds of citizens and a border agent were killed. To hide details of the decision makers for this terrible operation from oversight is unforgivable.

kaysbrew, I don't consider expressing my opinions a popularity contest where the "opinion" with the greatest number of commenters wins. And having an opinion that may not be the most popular in no way indicates one is misinformed. I'm sure Americans are disgusted with the Mexican drug cartel gun running programs, which were started and botched by the George W. Bush administration, and are equally as disgusted with Darrell Issa's crusade to attempt to seemingly create the illusion of a new scandal every week.

poobah
Why haven't any of your liberal buddies come to help you?
Because, poobah, you are being mislead, and misinformed and it's too bad you seem to be the only still buying the crap, but that's the left they depend on that type of complacency.

"A tendency," as in six times -- the six times George W. Bush invoked executive privilege. If Bush had been subjected to the relentless skullduggery of Issa, he would have probably invoked executive privilege four times as often as he did.

This is Obama's first use of executive privilege in 3.5 years as president.

This is just a repeat of Joe Wilson's War in Afghanistan, Olliee North; Iran Contra, Bush;Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Gunrunner and so it goes. We don't learn from history in this country. The MIC has to keep selling weapons to make money and if there isn't heavily armed conflict, create it, in hot spots like Libya,Syria. Just sell them or better yet give them weapons. Afterall, there's alot of money to be made if the world stays in constant turmoil. Mitt Romney knows that. Why do you think he wants to go to war with Iran? Didn't the GOP listen during the last election when people overwhelming said "WE ARE TIRED OF WAR"?
Oh, that's right "our" representatives don't represent us, they represent BIG business and themselves.

Bowlgal said, "This is a shameful disgrace and an ATF agent has been killed by this criminal funding of guns with OUR money."

The funding for gun running to Mexican drug cartels started with the George W. Bush administration in 2006 with Operations Wide Receiver and Gun Runner. I haven't seen you express outrage over those expenditures. Why is that?

Again PooBah, I agree with Ezoner. To even suggest Obama is protecting Bush tells me you don't have any true information about what has happened between Congress and Holder for the past year and half and only parroting what ever left wing news outlet you have on today.
This is a shameful disgrace and an ATF agent has been killed by this criminal funding of guns with OUR money.
I think the left wing is desperate to pin blame elsewhere because they remember Watergate and what that did to Nixon.

"Andrew C. McCarthy III is a former Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. A Republican, he is most notable for leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others. He has served as an attorney for Rudy Giuliani, and is also a conservative opinion columnist who writes for National Review and Commentary." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_McCa... ]

"National Review (NR) is a fortnightly magazine founded by the late author William F. Buckley, Jr., in 1955 and based in New York City. It describes itself as "America's most widely read and influential magazine and web site for conservative news, commentary, and opinion." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Re... ]

Can a democrat explain to me how they hate cuts to welfare but have no problem cutting the military, cuts to VA....Just wondering how that seems okay.

Attempts by Democrats to pin the Fast and Furious operation on Bush, however, don’t stand. National Review’s Andrew McCarthy explains:

Wide Receiver actually involved not gun-walking but controlled delivery. Unlike gun-walking, which seems (for good reason) to have been unheard of until Fast & Furious, controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic.
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To the contrary, Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. It was an utterly heedless program in which the feds allowed these guns to be sold to straw purchasers — often leaning on reluctant gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not followed by close physical surveillance; they were freely permitted to bulk transfer the guns to, among others, Mexican drug gangs and other violent criminals — with no agents on hand to swoop in, make arrests, and grab the firearms. The inevitable result of this was that the guns have been used (and will continue to be used) in many crimes, including the murder of Brian Terry, a U.S. border patrol agent.

kaysbrew said, "There plan was not executed properly and now you see the cover-up. They never expected American deaths but Mexicans were okay."

I'm glad you are finally acknowledging the problems with the George W. Bush administration's gun running operations codenamed Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Gun Runner. This is a big step for you.

poobah
OMG it's true the liberals can spoon feed anybody. If they wanted to protect Bush or the Presidency, the Exe. Priv. would have been used from the start.
This started in the beginning because the liberals were talking at the time of banning assault weapons that the admin. wanted this info out so they had leverage to say...see these guns are in the hands of drug dealers.
There plan was not executed properly and now you see the cover-up. They never expected American deaths but Mexicans were okay.
This blame Bush is clinging to the wall now for the un-educated.

kaybrew said, "poobah, Holder already admitted that was false in a letter to Congress."

In his letter, he was commenting about statements that the Bush administration had known of Operation Fast and Furious. His letter said nothing about Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Gun Runner, which clearly were programs started under the George W. Bush administration and were the forerunners of Operation Fast and Furious. Yes, I think Obama is protecting Bush and the facts on Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Gun Runner - the Bush administration operations that put guns in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels.

kaysbrew, don't you find it just a BIT ironic that Darrell Issa, the Republican who was arrested and charged with a gun violation, and eventually pleaded guilty to a gun violation, would now be the Republican's point man in Congress that is investigating gun running schemes that were started under the George W. Bush administration? Only in America.

"A police officer noticed a firearm in his glove compartment. Issa was charged with carrying a concealed weapon; he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of possession of an unregistered firearm, and was sentenced to six months' probation and a small fine." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Iss... ]

poobah, Holder already admitted that was false in a letter to Congress. You seriously think the Pres is hiding the Documents to protect Bush??? hahaha

wise up. I know you liberals haven't had much on this in your media of no-information but this was all your guy.

kaysbrew said, "They bought weapons in Arizona, marched them across the border and gave them to drug runners. They killed people and now they are covering it up."

Yes, kaysbrew, a great summary of what the Bush administration did with Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Gunrunner.

poobah
Clinton had 14, what's your point?
The liberals in the media are having a hard time defending this guy today. They bought weapons in Arizona, marched them across the border and gave them to drug runners. They killed people and now they are covering it up.
And they will get the help from the state run media.

poohboy......Your statement, "Any attempts by a criminal to impugn the integrity of others" is laughable.......Since when is requiring that documents that a committee deems relevant to an investigation be turned over to that committee "impugn the integrity" of those involved?? I think that Obama and Holder are doing a fine job of impugning their integrity all on their own! Keep trying though:)

Then I guess George W. Bush gets six terms in prison, Ezoner. He invoked executive privilege six times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_p... ]

LibertyBelle and TedKennedy:

For the record, I did a "duck-duck-goose-style" headcount of protesters at about 9 a.m. Monday, and at that time I tallied 62 protesters in their primary location across the street from Monterey Mills.

It was a pretty straightforward process, since practically every protester at the event was clustered in the same spot.

Neil Johnson, reporter
The Gazette

This seems pretty simple.... I had held any judgement or opinion. Although I do not like nor appreciate some of what Holder has done, and feel his views are sadly amiss, until Obama used executive priveledge -- I was uncertain. Now -- something in the river stinks. The only reason for executive priv. is to protect someone or multiple people from the truth getting out. The only conclusion would be that the president or his staff knew what was going on. Otherwise, there would be no need. This will turn out to be far worse than Watergate and somoene on Obamas staff should be in a cell next to Rob B. The ex-Ill gov.

The George W. Bush administration started these "gunwalking" operations under the codename Wide Receiver. The Bush administration ensured guns would "walk" in to the hands of arms traffickers and Mexican drug cartels. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_W... ]

Any attempts by a criminal to impugn the integrity of others should, and will, be met with recitations of that criminal's history.

Obama needs to do what Walker did when he thought about planting troublemakers, used divide and conquer and refused to negotiate after he said he would. Anybody referencing any of that is accused of sour grapes and partisan witch-hunting. Walker said there's no point in rehashing the past - let's move forward. That's all Obama needs to do. It's both funny and pathetic to hear that people who voted for Walker have any issues with Obama. Hypocrites

Poohboy....The man sitting in the highest office in our country's government asserts executive privilege over documents he claims to have never seen which cover a gun running operation he said he didn't know existed. We're discussing an operation which resulted in the murder of an American LEO along with countless Mexican nationals and you bring up the theft of a 1971 Dodge Charger that happened 40 years ago.........It's funny and really pathetic at the same time--not surprising coming from you though.......

Darrell Issa, the Republican chairing the committee investigating Fast and Furious is apparently no stranger to being investigated, charged and pleading guilty to crime himself.

"He claimed his unit provided security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series, and that he received the highest approval ratings during his service.[7] However, a 1998 investigation by the San Francisco Examiner found these claims were not true, since Nixon had not attended any of that year's World Series games. The investigation also discovered that Issa was actually transferred to a supply depot after he received an unsatisfactory evaluation. According to Issa, the Examiner reporter had misunderstood an anecdote he had related.[5] A fellow soldier, Jay Bergey, claimed that Issa stole his Dodge Charger in 1971, when they were serving together. The day after he confronted Issa, the car was found abandoned on a nearby expressway. Asked about this in 2011, Issa denied it and suggested it was possible that other soldiers stole the car or that Bergey, who he claims had a drinking problem, had abandoned it himself while intoxicated." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Iss... ]

"Twice that year he was arrested, once for alleged theft of a Maserati, which Issa says was a case of mistaken identity and the charge for which was dismissed. In another incident, he was stopped for driving the wrong way on a one-way street, and a police officer noticed a firearm in his glove compartment. Issa was charged with carrying a concealed weapon; he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of possession of an unregistered firearm, and was sentenced to six months' probation and a small fine.[5][8] Issa has said he believes the record has since been expunged." [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Iss... ]

I realize it's difficult for you, but let's try to stay current poohboy. The two candidates in question here are Romney and Obama. After what went down regarding Obama and Holder today, one of them has serious credibility issues he needs to resolve--if that is even possible at this point........

vatoloco asked, "What is Obama hiding from this investigation?"

Maybe he is hiding documents that would prove George W. Bush and Dick Cheney knew all along there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Or maybe he is hiding documents that show Bush had been briefed that Al Qaeda was planning to commandeer commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings.

This is what democracy looks like!

Why is this even a story? 60 is an over reach. 30-40 maybe.

How about these ignorant, immature protesters. You sick of them too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/12...

In both cases these are citizens exercising constitutionally guaranteed rights. You sick of the constitution too?

I, for one, am sick of these people who haven't grown up and act like babies. Let them keep it up and all those other people who are sick of it, will make sure Romney gets in. I would think after the turnout of voters in the recall election, they would finally see that they are are just making people mad.

"he held up a sign that said, "Viva Obama."

So funny, I had my picture taken with him and his sign. The big sombrero he wore was a nice touch!

vatoloco, you already stand for a single wage and benefit class for the 99% and want one party rule like they have in N. Korea and China, so you dressing up like Stalin with a sickle and hammer would be an underwhelming statement to say the least.

Government cannot create jobs, creative forward thinking risk takers create small business which then require workers. It is called capitalism, not socialism.

Government cannot create jobs, creative forward thinking risk takers create small business which then require workers. It is called capitolism, not socialism.

tedkennedy: Wow! You must think yourself better than those less fortunate. Can't wait to see you in line for food stamps or financial aid if you happen to lose a job or the means to support yourself or your family. And being a Christian, God forgive me if I don't feel sorry for you if Karma bites you in the behind.