The basic idea a behind lower cap gains (lower then normal income) is that it encourages long term investment. Which is normally a GOOD thing. For a normal, working class individual, to invest in the economy is a very good thing, because then they have vested interest in the economy doing well, and get rewarded for their risk with a lower tax rate.
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That is why I said I agree that the 15% tax should stand, UNTIL you reach a certain level (the $1 million Obama mentioned seems very reasonable). When you are worth multi millions, or billions, you are like a poker player with the huge stack. You simply just bully things to your advantage. These people are not 'investors' they are LOOTERS. They use their fortune simply to game the system, and take advantage of this flawed cap gains rate. They are not adding jobs, or anything to the economy, as many keep claiming. They simply use the power and influence of their $$, to make MORE $$$ in the form of dividends, or pre arranged stock plans that you or I would never have access to(ultra preferred shares, guaranteed not to go down in value, ext). To have this looting be taxed at the 15% cap gains rate is BEYOND a sham. It is one of the biggest scams out there right now.

My point Gandy -- is that its the same dollar being taxes over and over and over again. Yes its a different transaction, but the government uses that as a an excuse to take more and more of the dollars. I didnt miss it, I just do not agree with it. You should tax that dollar once and only once. That dollar spent did not generate any additional value, its value was used in a transaction only. So the reality is by continually taxing profits -- you are taxing the same dollar over and over again -- basically if follow it through the entire dollar is consumed over time in the form of taxes. We should just barter and then screw the currency system. Oh wait -- someone did that in Alaska and was arrested, they bartered moose meat for something else.

I propose we get rid of currency -- then theres nothing to tax, unless they want to come by and take a slab of meat.

Kio -- I would agree that a tax on the gain is reasonable as that is NEW money. However, I would argue that no new money exists in the purchase of a product. Meaning that if I buy something for $1, that the $1 should only be taxed once. Either as income before spent or at the point of purchase of a product. Yet profit on the product purchased is taxed and any subcontracted labor and material profit to make the product is taxed as well. So the $1 spent is taxed $30% for income (was $1.30 earned) plus sales tax , plus the corporate tax on profit, fuel taxes to deliver the product. State, local and federal taxes probably consume $.50 or more of every $1 spent. This makes no sense. A gain of valuation is different.

You have said: "by their logic, if I won $100 million, I should only then pay 15% tax on it."...Not zero, as I posted...You get the point though...Just be cause you make MORE money off $$$ that has all ready taxed, does not mean it's double taxation. Hence why interest earned in the bank is declared as normal income right on line 8 of the 10-40, and taxed at the same rate your wage income falls into.

"A simpler and better approach has always been the implantation of a straight flat tax, no deduction, system. Just like payroll taxes have been for SS and Medicaid. But, eliminating the power of the pen, via legislation, would remove cash flow to politicians for tax law changes. Until the people speak nothing will change."
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RAF: Yes, a flat tax, or even better "fair" tax; which eliminates income tax, and taxes consumption is the way to go. I think a flat tax would work if you still exempt the 1st $10K or so of income (which you essentially have right now if you file single, and can yourself as an exemption). Anything above that $10K would then be subject to that flat tax. Otherwise a flat tax would crush the real low income earners, just barely hanging on as it is.
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I just get sick of the GOP spin of cap gains. This NONSENSE-propaganda I keep hearing on faux is getting beyond disingenuous. Now their argument (per today)is that it's double tax, because you are paying tax on income you all ready earned. I heard Mitt Romney making the same argument the other day when his 15% tax rate was questioned. It's an argument that is beyond illogical. By their logic, if I buy a lottery ticket, and win $100 million in power ball, that should all be untaxed because I made it (bought the ticket) with income that was all ready taxed. That is essentially the argument they are making now.

I'm not one to sit here and tell you taxing the ultra rich will solve all our insane deficit problems. Just saying that the taxation system needs to be a level playing field. Someone making over $1 million, and being taxed at 15% because they can claim it's all long term "investment income", compared with say a construction worker making $50K and being taxed at 28%, is absolutely flawed, and the definition of an unfair playing field.

pharm & creature...Thank You, saves me the time to reply to bebe's "Revisionist History"

bebe spews misinformation on this site constantly. She is proven wrong again and again and yet continues. I'm beginning to think that her and a few others answered the ad on Craig's list for Conservative bloggers willing to spread misinformation on the internet.

Magical thinking... must be all State and Federal elected officials playing the blame game will correct the problems of the USA. Either they work together or stay divided and we all suffer the same fate as previous world superpowers. You are wrong if you think your way is the only way. Sometimes compromise is the only way to move the ball forward. Even "The Gipper" knew that one. That is the fact JACK.

Even if the new charges leveled by the SEC against Fannie/Freddie are true, they only held around 5% of all subprime mortgages when the bottom fell out of the market. They had lost almost 40% of their market share when the subprime buying boom took off, and they were late to the table and got scraps.

Instead of continuing the political blame game on the message board, it would be refreshing to read more posts that were insightful and created a dialog that moved the left and right somewhere in the middle. Not to beat a dead horse, but bipartisan cooperation is the only way the USA is going to correct the problem. Politicians are only going to respond to the wishes of voting constituents, and if the he said, she said, blame game gets them elected then we all lose. For another perspective, what if your house is on fire and two different departments respond. Do you want them arguing about how to put out the fire and which window to access to save your family. At the rate of progress now, the USA will be a heap of charred rubble very soon.

Subprime meltdown was created by the commercial and investment banks period. My take, is the banks loaned the money and frankly speaking didn't qualify the applicants. The lenders/commercial banks viewed process as a gold rush of loan processing fees, knowing the risk would be passed down the line. Many commercial lenders didn't even file the proper paperwork, part of the current problem today with foreclosures. Wall Street-(Goldman, JP Morgan, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers), then bundled the loans into AAA Bonds that were sold globally. AIG provided the insurance against the bonds and when the house of cards came a tumbling down, the bonds were marked to market value. Hundreds of billions were lost across the board. AIG couldn't cover the insurance on the bonds, the investment banks were left holding the bag and begged GW and Hank to bail them all out with your tax dollars. Fear frenzy on Wall Street and DC that the mother of economic collapse was at the door and you and I needed to dig deep. Stop the madness people, public policy had a very minor role in this mess. Greed by the banks and investors lead to this situation.

Center for Community Capital, University of North Carolina.
CRA Did Not Cause Foreclosure Crisis, "The claim that the CRA led to the foreclosure crisis is a falsehood that persists despite irrefutable evidence to the contrary and repeated attempts to correct the misperception".
Percentage of home mortgage debt held by CRA regulated institutions was 74% in 1977, 33% in 1995, and 26% in 2008. Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending exploded, CRA regulated institutions made 5.9% of all so called subprime loans that were made.
I guess that makes those who still believe that the CRA was a major culprit "idealogues" as the article says.

I think what Obama meant by "Game On" was in reference to his golf game

"No Evidence That Government Housing Policy Caused The Crisis", 8/24/11, CBSmoneywatch.
"This won`t put the myth to rest once and for all, some people will continue to make this claim despite the evidence to the contrary. But, for those who base their opinions on data rather than what their ideology tells them must be true, the evidence from a variety of studies is very clear. It wasn`t the CRA, and it wasn`t Fannie and Freddie."
The article was centered around a study from Federal Reserve Board entitled, "The Subprime Crisis: Is Government Housing Policy To Blame?", by Robert B. Avery and Kenneth P. Brevoort.
"We find little evidence that either CRA or GSE goals played a significant role in the subprime crisis."
"Our lender tests indicate that areas disproportionately served by lenders covered by the CRA experienced lower delinquency rates and less risky lending."
No law ever forced any lender to knowingly make a "bad" loan to any borrower. They were still using regulated lenders, unlike the private mortgage companies.

Kaysbrew...The American Dream Act was completely Bush. You are correct stating The CRA was started in 1977. It has nothing to do with ADA. President Clinton signed the Grahm Leach Bliley Act in 1999 with the stipulation that banks would lend to lower income communities, thus strengthening the CRA. The housing bubble burst is completely Bushes. You will not win the debate on this subject, it was my senior thesis subject in college. I spent an entire year researching the housing bubble burst.

bebe53: Yes, right wing talking points...every thing is terrible, and it is all Obama's fault. ODS.
donnaw: Glad you listen to the other side too! And still, my point ignored. The Prez has done a lot to make things better, with a right wing Congress blocking him all the way. Yes or No?

Sarah -- I did not watch -- as I would estimate -- most people that have already decided anybody but Obama would be better. SO I wouldnt put much faith in that poll.

greatpain..and I hear a lot of Michael Moore, Chris Matthews, MSNBC et al in your remarks.

donnaw & bebe53: You are right. Here in Wisconsin, under our governor, we are not doing as well. I wrote saving us from Bush policies, yes, like out of Iraq, Osama, tax cut for the middle class...you know, diverting a depression. I hear a lot of right wing radio in your responses.

SarahB1
Jan 25, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
Suggest removal germancaveguy: Your comments ring true. Now if only I could ignore the garbage that wislady, Donnaw, fedupwithtaxes, bebe, and Midnight_Snack continually sprew ...

Which one of my comments is "garbage" and tell me why you disagree.

It's very lazy to "sprew" (spew) as you put it your disapproval without a valid counter.

onedayatatime
It's called the Big Lie!! The dems and The Community Reinvestment Act --is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to help meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.
Congress passed the Act in 1977 to reduce discriminatory credit practices against low-income neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining.
Then ACORN like groups would march into banks and protest (intimidate) lenders. Obama was part of this movement.

Banks bundled these now bad loans and sold them down the line. They were sold until no one would take them and what was left was a crash.

The Big DEM mess they now like to lie about.
The BIG LIE!!

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/h...

Sorry SB1

I look for everyone to be successful in what they feel is success in their eyes.
Liberals like yourself resort to breaking down people and spirit. plantation politices.

Occupy is a great example. Obama's speech vs Mitch Daniels. Obama says "fairness" to bring the top down and Daniels says "prosperity" to bring the down UP!!

A simpler and better approach has always been the implantation of a straight flat tax, no deduction, system. Just like payroll taxes have been for SS and Medicaid. But, eliminating the power of the pen, via legislation, would remove cash flow to politicians for tax law changes. Until the people speak nothing will change.

Funny when I turned on Faux news and heard that shill; Bill O'Reilly, go on for half the show about Obama's proposed minimal 30% cap gains tax. Funny he went on and on about something that he clearly was either clueless about, or more likely misrepresenting to his viewers. Obama never said to raise the cap gains tax to 30%. His proposal was to have a 30% alternative minimum tax if you net more then $1 million.
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Amazing how the right will engage in a fight to the death to protect million-billionaires from paying the tax rates that most upper-middle class workers do. If I understood his idea, it was to simply keep cap gains the way it is now. Which is a 15% tax for investment gains you incur on positions held over 1 years time. Once your investment gains exceed $1 million, then you'd get hit with a 30% tax for everything over that $1 million.
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An idea like this will not hose seniors (who largely live off investment income) or small time investors (like most middle America is). It simply asks the Paris Hilton's, Kim Kardashians, Donald Trumps, ext of the world who inherited their fortunes, and make millions off capital gain interest-dividends, to pay what those actually EARNING $1 million in SALARY pay!
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To me this seems like one of the biggest no brainer, bi-partisan ideas out there, but guys like O'relly will tout on Faux non stop that it's class warfare, misrepresent what Obama even proposed (he never said raise cap gains to 30%, it was an alternative minimum tax if you make over $1 million), and claim that these ultra wealthy are creating all these jobs that spur economic growth, HAHAHA...Something that is beyond moronic, and laughable. The only jobs these people create are a job for their high profile accountant, lawyer, and investment adviser.

@ kays brew"The crash was completely due to the housing mortgage bad loans that were started by Clinton."
You are wrong. The housing crises started under G.W. Bush with his "American Dream Act"
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-111006

Good grief Bowlgal...what speech were you listening to? I guess you can't hear what you don't want to.
Poltifact seems to be down, or at least overloaded so I used Fact Check
Fact Check: “Mostly, the president’s specific factual claims were well-founded”.
Evaluated as True:
Obama: Over the last three years, we’ve opened millions of new acres for oil and gas exploration. … Right now, American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years. That’s right – eight years. Not only that – last year, we relied less on foreign oil than in any of the past 16 years.
Obama: In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than three million jobs. Last year, they created the most jobs since 2005. American manufacturers are hiring again, creating jobs for the first time since the late 1990s.
Obama: In fact, I’ve approved fewer regulations in the first three years of my presidency than my Republican predecessor did in his.

Evaluated as Mostly True
Obama: I believe as strongly as ever that we should take on illegal immigration. That’s why my administration has put more boots on the border than ever before. That’s why there are fewer illegal crossings than when I took office.
Bush doubled the number and Obama increased the numbers modestly.

"How will he campaign for 4 more years if he can not run on his record?" President Obama actually has an impressive record. He has gotten over 22 pcs of legislation passed to help small businesses such as R&D expenses 100% deductable. Saving the American Automobile Industry. GM is once again #1.
Osama Bin Laden: Gone
Ending the Iraq War

I could list alot more but I think my point has been made. You Conseratives are either dilusional or in complete denial. Just because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't mean it's not so.

BTW Mitch Daniels rebuttal was rated as "misleading".

No Sarah, You can't blame Walker for your choice of words, altho you would like to blame him for a streak of bad weather and everything else. You and I disagree but you said I spewed "garbage." Kind of immature don't you think? Can't people just agree to disagree? You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours. I like what Walker is doing and you don't. So be it. Grow up and act like a mature adult.

creature-Most of what you say is true. BUT under Obama the debt went from $10 Trillion to $15 Trillion. Looks like the whole fleet was drunk.

creatureinthefreezer
Obama called Bush reckless for spending 4 trillion. What does that make Obama now that our debt is 15 Tril???

Obama bailouts were only favors to the unions and his wall street pals. They haven't done anything to change the situation.

The crash was completely due to the housing mortgage bad loans that were started by Clinton.
Bundled again and again until no one left to purchase them.

Do you want to be beholden to yourself or government?

Jeez, 1000 days Senate dems have not passed a budget. Failure!

30 jobs bills from the house to the senate won't even be debated. Failure!

this is all on Obama and Dems-he spent the night tearing down while Mitch Daniels and Republicans builds you up.
Haves and soon to haves. Not Obama's haves and have nots.

I'd rather go up in prosperity and freedom and self worth then take down others with hate and class warfare.

It appears to me most of you need a civics lesson. The President does not create laws it is the Congress that crafts legislation. Only after a law passes both the House and Senate then the President will either sign it or veto it. Congress deserves all the blame for the current state of turmoil our nation is experiencing. This blame is retroactive for every year back to 2000. Don’t forget that a Republican majority spent like drunken sailors on leave during the most of the two terms of GW. GW rarely used the veto pen to keep pet projects like the bridge to nowhere from becoming reality. The economy was on the slide the entire time GW was in office and fell off the cliff in 2008. TARP and the 787 Billion dollar Wall Street Bailout was the brainchild of Hank Paulson. By the time Obama was elected he had no choice but to sign off on the deal. The auto company bailouts were entirely Obama and helped to keep the USA auto industry thriving. With regards to the Stimulus plan that Obama and the Democratic controlled congress developed this was a monumental waste. Our political system is broken. Broken because the days of bipartisan cooperation is passé or unforgivable to the party leaders. Reminds me of Rome burning while Nero played his lyre. Get your fire hose ready folks. The USA is raging.

Was that speech live last night or a rerun from 2010 or 2011? Sounded like the same old same old.
Obama 2012-End Of An Error

I love how all liberals need to find someone else to blame all the time. Its always someone elses fault when they try to control the free market to do what they want instead of letting it operate as intended. The reality is that government cannot control outcomes, they can only negatively affect them. Reagan had it right, but so much has been done since his term, that there is no way that anything would work with the regulations in place today.

Sarah, stop fighting
with the McPoyles .

How many other women at the speech wore a $2,400 dress while they listened to Potus talk about fairness?

I was completely unimpressed. It sounded exactly like last years State of the Union and not one achievement mentioned.

The big things when he had super majority were so unpopular, he couldn't.

How will he campaign for 4 more years if he can not run on his record?

America's Greatest President: Who is Ronald Reagan

Game on? Wake up folks. The game has been on for the last 100 years. The economic elitists have been enriching themselves at the expense of the middle class with the wholehearted support of Democrat and Republican politicians. But it has only been in the last few decades that the elitists realized there is much more treasure to pillage and plunder overseas, so that's where they're moving their focus now. Much thanks to Ronald Reagan, who will go down in history as the president whose economic policies helped to destroy two countries -- Russia and America. His trickle-down economic experiment sure is working wonders, isn't it?

I am surprised that nobody here has mentioned Obama's suggestion that we give tax breaks to corporations for creating jobs here in the USA. It sounds much like Walker's plan to give tax breaks to corporations for creating jobs in Wisconsin. Many of the posters on this thread are the same ones that rail against corporate welfare in Wisconsin, but yet nothing about Obama's plan. Something strange (or perhaps partisan) is happening here.

The divisivness did not start with Obama. It started with Newt Ginrich in the 90's with the formation of his conservative Coalition. He has done more to divide his own party and this country more that anyone else.

It is not failed Obama policies that have gotten us into this mess it is Republican policies. And the class warfare started with Reaganonimics, people are just now starting to feel the effects of these failed policies such as "Trickle down economics" and are acknowledging the class warfare that has been going on for decades.

you'll have to paste it for me SB1
I expected better from you. you sound like that twaddling mouse now and her basement blog rants.

SarahB1: you of course donot spew any garbage do you?

If obama really wanted to help the middle class (not the middle east), he'd look at eliminating or reducing captial gains tax on individuals.

"We can do this. I know we can, because we've done it before. At the end of World War II, when another generation
of heroes returned home from combat, they built the strongest economy and middle class the world has ever known." From Obama's speech. The era he is describing was when America had its own economy, not foreignized like it is today with globalized connectives and Japanese tin cans, etc. invading our country. Everybody built & bought things from your neighbors. It was great.

Sarah...tsk, tsk, and to think I actually covered your back once.

Sarah...I don't remember anyone saying that he is hiding when he is actually in DC. But then you'd have to catch him being there. Campaigning and vacationing, yes he is good at those two things. Your Source for when in DC he is "hiding"?

Why should any American pay for government mistakes? debtclock

SarahB1
thank you SB1 for not including me on your hate list.
I'm also glad to see you would rather lower mine and Buffet's secretary tax rate vs going after the job investors.

If the government spent less, we could lower the middle class instead of tax and spend politics of liberals and class warfare.

German -- Obama - Pelosi - Reid have attempted to implement a complete ideology that stifles business. He and the far left have been at war with business and the wealth both. His policies and proposals would deepen the ranks of the unemployed and would lead to the destruction of the US as a military and economic leader. Granted, people may not like everything he would LIKE to do, but the inability of the far left to compromise on ANY points is utterly rediculous, unreasonable and unattainable. Many democrats have sided against some of his proposals and Obamacare barely passed.

I say flat tax for all-whether you make $10,000 or $10,000,000. Obama said it himself-everyone should pay their fare share. Taxing investments is the dumbest thing, the money is already taxed. Next dumb suggestment would be to double tax peoples Roth IRA's and Roth 401k's.

He spent 5 trillion of our dollars and the only thing that has improved were his frequent flyer miles and his golf score.

The most un-american american president we've ever had.

Obama offered nothing new in his latest campaine speech (SOTU). We have been electing people for decades based on proposals that never seem to happen. Tax Reform-How many times has it been brought up? Changes to education? Lot of money spent and still no real progross. SS, Medicare, Medicade: Scare everybody then do nothing as usual. Dem's as well as Rep's are just as much to blame for what is happening. Save the middle-class: If they keep saving the middle class like they have so far, it will be non-existant shortly. Tax the rich: What are they doing now? Obama shouldn't be blamed for all the faults but he sure isn't the cure. We are the ones who elect these people yet we never really hold any of them responsible to do the job. If they do try to do anything, half the people are against them and the other half are for them. Ends up being a stand-off and nothing gets done.

bebe53 -- You offered a few suggestions as to what Obama could do. However, what I don't understand is how you can ignore what he has done on these issues.

1) Obama has pushed for reform in the tax code. On both ends of the spectrum I may add. However, while payroll tax cuts have been enacted, there hasn't been much to address the upper end of the spectrum. However, much or this responsibility is in the hands of Congress anyway.

2)As far as serious efforts at budget reform, Obama has sent many proposals to Congress; even one's utilizing much of Simpson-Bowels. However, once again it is Congress that has failed to send Obama a bill to sign.

3)This point appears to be your disagreement of what would be a good energy policy. Obama, however right or wrong, has indeed been promoting his view of a strong energy policy. He, like you, would like to accomplish the goals you have stated. You just disagree with how to get there.

4) Finally, this last point is such a non sequitur I can never understand how so many people say it. To suggest somehow that because Obama hasn't voluntarily payed a higher percentage of his taxes already, he isn't seriously volunteering to do so is absurd.

Lastly, the argument of Obama pushing class warfare is just silly. It has been happening far longer than this country has been around. The only thing Obama is doing is addressing it. To imply that his stance, that those with the most wealth should contribute proportionally to what everyone else does, isn't the problem. Suggesting that they have no need to, is.

bebe53
Jan 25, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
@germancaveguy-the most disgusting thing about this president is the class warfare and divisiveness he promotes through his own speeches-maybe people wouldn't be so upset if he actually tried to unite this country and act like a leader-

Amen to that!

Another ignorant waste of time. As is, the biggest loser got cut an hour because of his ramblings. He's a poor example of a leader. I detest Bill Clinton, but would gladly vote for him if he ran against Obama. He's done nothing more than use class warfare to divide the nation, brought down our national pride, our sense of being American.

I guess the big question is with the political bickering that goes on will the President actually be able to deliver on everything he talked about in the speech?

"How do you explain failure....blame everyone else."
Funny you should say that...

wislady -- What, specifically, do you feel Obama has been a failure for?

Also, to what measure would Obama be considered a success instead a failure?

It is all too easy to refer to someone as being one thing or another without actually backing up what is being said.

Look at you !

Yes, wislady, Romney's just a peach to give nearly $3 million to charity — about half of that amount to the Mormon Church — which helped lower his tax rate to 14%. The Obama family doesn't make in a year what Romney makes in a month. In 2010, they donated $245,075 (14.2% of their gross income) to 36 different charities.

germanguy - This president is not a leader, he will never accomplish anything. He is divider.

"One of the saddest things with Obama's presidency isn't Obama. Instead, it is all the opposition he receives coupled with the animosity toward him."

How do you explain failure....blame everyone else.

Nicely said, germancaveguy

One of the saddest things with Obama's presidency isn't Obama. Instead, it is all the opposition he receives coupled with the animosity toward him.

People tend to look for things to ridicule him for instead of simply taking issue with the things they disagree on. Regardless of what he may say or do, far too many people are seeking out anything they can twist to hurl at him. All any of this negativity does is further hinder the state of our great nation.

I acknowledge that people in this country have differing opinions to what constitutes good public policy and thus a good President. But to simply decide that Mr. Obama is a bad one, only to then look for a way to support that stance is just ridiculous.

President Obama may not be the president that you think America needs or deserves. However, to stand against him regardless of what he does or says is un-American and illogical.

Petty politics won't make this country any better. If it did, we would be doing better than we have ever been.

Romney gave 15% of his income to charity, Obama gave 1%.

Biden gave less than $400 to charity.

Why wasn't John Boehner wearing a flag pin?

greatp..and our economy is doing so well, right. Lower debt, lower unemployment, balanced federal budget (oh that's right we don't have a budget...we just print more money!) What HAS Obama accomplished in our economy except more welfare and bailouts.

Okay, even the Huffington Post unimpressed.

Losing the faithful?
Did NBC ask this audience (chamber) to sit on their hands too?

"Obama calls this the "Buffett rule," named for billionaire Warren Buffett, who has said it's unfair that his secretary pays a higher tax rate than he does."

Why doesn't Buffett pay his back taxes?

Buffett's Berkshire Owes $1 Billion In Back Taxes

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/buffett-...

One thing I've learned about measuring Democratic success: if Republicans are hyper mad at you, you are good at your job, (e.g. the President, Speaker Pelosi, etc). Donnaw: Nothing makes President Obama more successful than saving us from Bush era policies.

We are headed off the same financial cliff Greece already went over. Full speed ahead!

NVgrf: they better turn that oxygen back on in the casinos so you can take a breath of reality.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25...

Great speech. Now if republicans can step aside and let the democrates do some good. Boehner should look ashamed and he did. I am so sick and tired of being able to not get anything done got to fight the 1% so they can keep their money and make more while the middleclass slowly disolves.

Terrific speech! Great vision for the future! How in the world could the righties possibly disagree with 95% of what the President said?! John Boehner seemed to be the most frustrated man in the chamber. He agrees with the President, but remains hamstrung by the Tea Party branch. A second term is near, my right wing friends. Better get on board.

And did you watch Biden. OMG! I hope Obama is really careful so nothing happens to him because we are doomed if Biden ever was put in charge. What a loser!

There was a gust of hot air came thru Janesville last night from both parties.

Obama is making the Bush presidency look successful. Notice he doesn't talk about his successes for being re-elected (except for foreign policy), . And he's right back out campaigning.

Everything a President shouldn't be. Partisan, inconsistent and extremely inferior.

I hope you caught the split screen that Fox and Friends did this morning on Obama's past speech to what he said this year.

November 6, 2012