Official fears election problems
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WCLO's Stan Stricker reports on clerks efforts to match new state redistricting data within the voter registration system
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Lori Stottler
JANESVILLE Rock County Clerk Lori Stottler selected a Lima Township address in the mapping program on her computer.
With a few clicks, she found the residence—on the equator, just off the west coast of Africa.
Stottler clicked on the teardrop-shaped location marker and dragged it back to southern Wisconsin.
Several computer manipulations later, and after accessing a satellite view of the address, she returned it to its rightful place.
The voters at that address should now be included in the poll book at their local polling place, but Stottler has thousands more addresses to correct and just 17 more days in which to do it, she said.
She doesn't think she'll make it by the state's Jan. 30 deadline.
Hundreds of Rock County voters could arrive at their polling places for the Feb. 21 primary election only to find their names aren't in the poll books, Stottler said.
Those voters still will be able to vote, Stottler stressed, but it will take them longer.
Stottler blames the problem on the new lines the state drew when setting up voting districts in the wake of the recent census.
Ward lines, state legislative districts and congressional district lines are redrawn every 10 years to account for population shifts, but this year the state is using new mapping software that is not precise, Stottler said.
Stottler suggested it was a mistake for the state to require clerks—most of whom are not proficient in mapping software—to make the changes. She knows one town clerk who is familiar with the system but is still overwhelmed.
The addresses found on the equator are the easy ones. Others, which are placed in one voting district by the state's map when they should be in an adjoining district—are more difficult to correct.
Stottler must submit evidence to the state Government Accountability Board, which then rules on whether she may adjust the district lines.
County and municipal clerks around the state are in the same boat, some to greater or lesser degrees, Stottler said.
The problem seems to be a new state mapping system that is not as precise as the county's mapping systems, and the two systems don't agree.
Stottler said it's not her fault. The state delivered its data Dec. 4. State training didn't happen until Dec. 14-15.
As the enormity of the problems became apparent, Stottler began working long days and weekends, and she enlisted the help of the mapping expert Jennifer Borlick of the county planning department, but that won't be enough, Stottler said.
Stottler said she is "incredibly stressed out" and fears a backlash from upset voters.
"I am frightened that I may be held responsible for something that is not in my control," she said in an email to reporters Wednesday.
Stottler can't get more help because only people who have been state-trained and certified are allowed to use the state's mapping software. Borlick is not certified, so she has to work with Stottler to get the job done.
Stottler noted she and her staff have to perform all the other functions of the clerk's office while working on this problem.
"Pretty much anywhere one municipality touches another municipality, there's going to be a problem," Borlick said.
The voters affected are those who live near municipal boundaries, such as the boundary between the city of Janesville and Harmony Township or the city of Beloit and Beloit Township.
Redistricting might cause additional confusion as voters find that they're no longer in the same district or that their polling place has changed, Stottler said.
Beloit and Janesville each have three new polling places, for example. Evansville also has a new one.
Stottler said she's working on a plan to help poll workers who can't find a voter's name in the poll book. First, there are maps online that show where the various voting districts are, and maps will be posted at the polls.
Second, Stottler is considering having a tax database at the polls so poll workers can look up voters and determine where they live.
Worst-case, poll workers will call their local clerks' offices, Stottler said.
Stottler said she doesn't want to scare anyone away from voting. She said voters who want to avoid hassles should become more involved, checking in advance for their poll locations and voting districts. At the same time, they should check to make sure they have proper identification for voting, as required under the state's new voter-ID law, which could be another holdup at the polls, Stottler said.
One saving grace is that relatively few voters will turn out for the Feb. 21 primary. Stottler said the primary would help clerks iron out problems and make them better prepared for the April 3 elections.
The Legislature moved the presidential preference primary from February to April this year, and that's a blessing, too, Stottler said.
Rock County has about 90,000 registered voters, Stottler said, and only a small fraction of those will encounter problems, but those with problems will slow the lines at the polls, so many more could be affected.
"If you go to the polls and are frustrated for ANY reason … PLEASE contact the county clerk or municipal clerk's office immediately!" Stottler wrote in an email. "We want your vote to count. We want elections to be transparent, fair and accurate. We want your civic experience to be as enjoyable and hassle-free as possible."

Jan 19, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
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RhetoricAndFalderal said, "pooie since when are groups supported by a political party, organized labor, and organized political movements considered grass roots?"
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Well RAF, there you go with your half truths again. You aren't a big fan of the "whole truth" are you? That's OK, you can always count on me to be here to round out the truth for you.
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Approximately 1,000,000 signatures on the Recall Walker petition were turned in on Tuesday. The last BLS census shows there were 355,000 union workers in the state of Wisconsin. Let me give your argument every benefit of doubt and stipulate that EVERY SINGLE UNION WORKER signed the recall petition. That means approximately 645,000 NON-UNION WORKERS signed the recall petition -- almost twice as many NON-UNION WORKERS as UNION WORKERS! As for political parties supporting a grassroots effort, that happens in almost every political action. It is a testament to the groundswell of grassroots efforts that political parties choose to support them.
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"In 2010, the number of workers belonging to a union in Wisconsin was 355,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today." [ http://www.bls.gov/ro5/unionwi.pdf ]
Jan 19, 2012 at 6:03 a.m.
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pooie since when are groups supported by a political party, organized labor, and organized political movements considered grass roots? You have clearly shown your inability to rationally declare meaning of words by your inane thoughts on the meaning of courage and courageous, somehow expecting you to do better with the term grass roots is reaching to far even for you.
Jan 18, 2012 at 7:02 p.m.
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"I am frightened that I may be held responsible for something that is not in my control," she said in an email to reporters Wednesday. Lori, in reference to your quote, you are not responsible for the weasel's attack on voters. I continue to be frightened by what was in your partial control. You and your cronies DuWayne and Billy S, own the local decisions that have continued to lead to the demise of the School District of Janesville.
Jan 18, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
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SarahB1, RhetoricAndFalderal is using the two usual fallacies people resort to when confronted with an issue to which they know they can't provide a logical argument. First it's the fallacy of dismissal (it wasn't a grassroots effort) and then the fallacy of repetition (LOLOLOL). People who use these fallacies are serial offenders of the truth.
Jan 18, 2012 at 9:20 a.m.
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Smoking grass....that's it.....
Jan 18, 2012 at 9:05 a.m.
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Falk.....Walker just won!
Jan 17, 2012 at 11:17 p.m.
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Jan 17, 2012 at 10:11 p.m.
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Over a million signatures, this is a grass roots victory by the citizens of Wisconsin. These are signatures not poisoned by the Kochs or AIG. RECALL WALKER! RECALL WALKER! RECALL WALKER! RECALL WALKER! RECALL WALKER! RECALL WALKER!
Jan 17, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
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It's interesting to me how a software compatibility issue has been turned into a partisan squabble. This is what the article tells me. As usual in most large companies, which a state government can be considered, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Somebody got a deal on this software and probably got a promotion because of it, without even checking if it would be compatible with existing systems. Just plain old Peter Principle in action. The person who chose the software has risen to their level of incompetence.
Jan 17, 2012 at 5:57 a.m.
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ms sassy......If Cullen strongly felt this way, why did he not make the same proposal when the democrats controlled the redistricting process? A little bit hypocritical, don't you think??
Jan 16, 2012 at 11:08 p.m.
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http://gazettextra.com/news/2011/jul/17/...
Jan 16, 2012 at 11:03 p.m.
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isn't this the issue that Mr. Tim Cullen proposed changing so that it is not the politically charged event that it has become? And didn't the Republicans laugh and scoff at his proposal when, in fact, he was proposing that which the Republicans claim to want so desperately....fair elections. I don't understand the motivations behind some of the comments here, but I guess I'm just one vote...somewhere in Wisconsin...
Jan 16, 2012 at 10:53 p.m.
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" I just wonder how it is that the system is not able to do something that happens every ten years"
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For starters the story explained the largest part of it, computer software. Political foes drawing lines on a map had nothing to do with software mix ups. If technology stayed stagnant of course the only issue to complain over would then be the lines on the map. As many have complained over how it is done, it still is not new since it happens the same way every ten years; partisan elected members decide where they want the lines based on the two-party system that created the mess to begin with. If people really cared about the process they could always appeal to their representatives to change the law around it, but that still in no way will remove the partisans in the choices; since the game is derived around votes.
Jan 16, 2012 at 8:03 p.m.
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RAF, truly no sarcasm meant on my part. I just wonder how it is that the system is not able to do something that happens every ten years.
Sorry I missed your response-- I put in an additional 15 hours for my day job over the weekend. Worked the regular day today, but have more to do for tomorrow. I will check back.
Jan 16, 2012 at 7:28 p.m.
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https://vpa.wi.gov/
Jan 16, 2012 at 7:28 p.m.
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Even the GAB info has not been "officially" updated...
Here's a link to check out your info...https://vpa.wi.gov/
Jan 16, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
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Hi Feduptaxpayer ..... I understand you never payed tax..... is that right?
I imagine living in your boyfriends basement has been quite successful?
Jan 16, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.
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Just do as the county clerk asks you to do in this article. Make sure that you know where your voting place is. It might have changed due to redistricting. Take it upon yourself to check it out and be sure where you are suppose to vote. That way you will have no regrets.
Jan 16, 2012 at 9:29 a.m.
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You forgot to mention a few very pertinent Facts!
The TeaGOP WI legislator hired an very expensive firm--Walker's lawyers to draw up these maps and the WI Republican legislature passed this bill.
Now they are passing on the costs to 'fix' these maps to the local municipalities!
Why is Walker and his buddies getting off the hook and taxpayers being made to pay extra?? The Walker lawyers got their taxpayer money and now we pay MORE!
Jan 15, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
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But's that is exactly why I asked a rhetorical question. Although you are here ripping away on the positions of others, you have not made your position known on the same issue, and you still haven't. Are you the self-appointed unofficial moderator here? Not that I personally care. It's strictly rhetorical.
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
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GoodAmerican
You need to pray for yourself.
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
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Fedupnut ; squirrel !
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:54 p.m.
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Lightkeeper - Mouse
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:38 p.m.
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I hear that they now
have pills for this.
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
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Fedupnut ; squirrel!
Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
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More double standards gandalf? Calling you out is considered personal but you calling others out isn't, yeah that fits your pattern.
YKM, it has been done the same way for decades yet some think it is a new process or suddenly wrong based soley on partisan reasons. I never declared there was a right or wrong way to the process but you would have known that if you read my posting before asking a rhetorical question.
Jan 15, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
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Wislady - You gotta love these bullies they way they call you names, attempt to cut you down when they are on the losing end of a debate - all in a feeble attempt to make themselves feel better.
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I'm guessing that they all are really the multiple personalities of mouses in disguise.
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
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RAF, rest assured, I don't have 'blind hatred over the governor', as you charge, although I leave no doubt over my disgust for the damage that he has perpetrated on our great state. Secondly, past redistricting excersises have been performed by ostentiously non-partisan commissions, albeit with contentions caused by partisan agendas, usually originating in the legislature.
By the way, calling you out for being a partisan ideologue, at time with blinders, is not a personal insult. It is, indeed, a very accurate and non-personal description of your posts.
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
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Patriots - I give you the afternoon off from here to watch the Packers game. Good job in here today. If you want to get some teacher bashing in during the commercials or half time you are welcome to it. Except, of course the outstate posters that just enjoy bashing Wisconsin union teacher - drop the bomb on them Walker styl. Get them while they sleep.
Go Patriots! Go people that love state devisiveness and protecting the wealth of rich people.
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
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witchlady, you are a liar. I am a good American. You don't get to decide who is and who is not a good American. I have never told you or anyone else on here that you are not good Americans. You have shown what a petty little nothing you really are. Low intelligence, absolutely without personality, and a hater of your fellow Americans. My prayers truly do go out for you.
Jan 15, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
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youkillme - you kill me.
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RETAIN WALKER
Jan 15, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
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RAF, you regurgitated some redistricting history. Was this to show how wrong redistricting is when drawn by office holders and partisans and you're making a stand against it? OR is this to show how right redistricting is when drawn by office holders and partisans and since everybody done and did it like this in the past - you're always good with it. I dunno, what was your point?
Jan 15, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
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LOL "there's no reason to make this topic personal, as you do"
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Okay lets look at your other hypocritical posts as well.
"What is offensive is when people like you..."
"you all expose yourself as putting ideology before state and country..."
"That's a pretty lame spin on your part, but very typical of ideologues..."
"as usual, your ideological blinders prevent you..."
So is the life of the wonderful left wing posters, do as I say not as i Do.
Jan 15, 2012 at 11:39 a.m.
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Hmmm " For generations, redistricting, during either Republican or Democratic legislatures has been reasonable and largely non-partisan."
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Reasonable, used by you, is a nondescript objective term that is undefinable, since all have their own view on subjective manners. The FALSE claim of largely non-partisan is ironically funny since the partisan state legislature has been doing it for 60 years. I guess you think our legislature is non-partisan, but honestly based on you comments this past year on the legislature you already know it's partisan. So this begs the question where do you get the thought process this has ever been non-partisan? I suspect, also based on your other comments, you are just playing the spilled milk crying game again.
I understand for many the blind hatred over the governor has eclipsed their ability to be rational.
Jan 15, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
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RAF, there's no reason to make this topic personal, as you do with the statement that 'It only affirms my previous comments about you' (whatever that may mean). Despite your lengthy recounting of past and well known redistricting gridlocks in WI, what the Republicans did in the current re-districting was not part of any continuum, as you imply. The current redistricting methods were unprecented in WI and largely orchestrated by the national Republican party and other special interests such as the Koch brothers' ALEC organization.
Jan 15, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
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GoodAmerican
Sounds like you might need to stay late for extra lessons.
Jan 15, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
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@gadalf- Great post at 8:43AM. The only thing I would change is word "radical". The word radical can have a good connotation.ie "radical inventions" etc. I think "fanatical" might be a better word to describe a tea party member.Their reasoning is extreme in nature.
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
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Retired - please be patient waiting for their response. I understand that the union puppet masters are having trouble looking up some of the words. Something to do with a computer glitch and the results of the word searches are coming back in Swahili.
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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1991-Members of the Legislature fully enacted a congressional redistricting plan. Wisconsin remains at 9 congressional districts. 1991-Governor Tommy Thompson vetoed a Legislative redistricting plan for the 1990 Census. At the time the lines were drawn, Democrats controlled both houses of the Legislature and the Republicans controlled the Governor's office.
1992-The Western District of Wisconsin federal court promulgated a plan for legislative redistricting for the 1990 Census. 2001-Wisconsin loses a congressional seat from the 2000 Census and is reduced from nine to eight congressional seats. 2001-The Wisconsin Legislature reached an agreement on Congressional redistricting plan for the 2000 Census. This was the first redistricting plan for Wisconsin at its current allotment of 8 congressional districts. July 2002-The Western District of Wisconsin federal court promulgated a Legislative redistricting plan for the 2000 Census after a split-controlled Legislature failed to approve a plan. December 21, 2010-The U.S. Census Bureau releases reapportionment figures for the 2010 Census. Wisconsin remains at 8 congressional districts.
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lrb/pubs/im/1...
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
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gandalf as I said this is nothing new, it has always been a partisan process. The fact that you and others are devoid of learning from past actions and the history of this state in no way makes you correct. It only affirms my previous comments about you.
1951-The Wisconsin Legislature began drawing the lines for legislative districts. 1951-Wisconsin remains at ten congressional districts for the 1950 Census. 1951-The Wisconsin Legislative Council created a reapportionment commission consisting of 2 State Senators, 3 State Representatives, and 3 citizens for the purpose of legislative redistricting. 1951-The Supreme Court upheld the legislative redistricting plan drawn by the reapportionment commission. 1961-Wisconsin remains at ten congressional districts for the 1960 Census. 1961-A Republican controlled Legislature and Democratic Governor Gaylord Nelson failed to enact a redistricting plan. 1963-On a second attempt, the Republican controlled Legislature and Democratic Governor John Reynolds failed to enact a redistricting plan. 1964-The Wisconsin Supreme Court promulgated a redistricting plan that drawn the lines for the rest of the 1960's. 1971-Wisconsin loses a congressional seat from the 1970 Census and is reduced from ten to nine congressional districts. 1971-A Republican Legislature and Democratic Governor Patrick Lucey failed to adopt a redistricting plan. 1971-1972-A 12 person reapportionment commission was also formed in attempts of enacting a redistricting plan and failed to reach an agreement. The commission consisted of lawmakers and citizens that were appointed by the Governor. 1972-Members of the Wisconsin Legislature approve a redistricting plan in special session under the threat of state and federal lawsuits. Members of the Legislature enacted the plan for the 1970 Census against a deadline set by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. 1981-Members of the Wisconsin Legislature approve a Congressional Redistricting plan for the 1980 Census. The plan was approved on the second attempt after Governor Lee Dreyfus vetoed the first congressional redistricting plan. Wisconsin remained at 9 congressional districts. 1982-A three judge panel of the Chicago-based Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals promulgated a Legislative redistricting plan that governed only the 1982 legislative elections. The court promulgated the plan after Republican Governor Lee Dreyfus and a Democratic controlled Legislature failed to approve a legislative redistricting plan in 1981.
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
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WISLADY,Feduptaxpayer the best and the brightest of the tea party ? Goodluck !
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
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witchlady--I'm going to church in a few minutes, and I am going to pray for you. You need our prayers very desperately, but you are not hated as you hate. You're welcome.
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
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Gandalf - you posted - To equate the Tea Party with conservatism is highly illogical.
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I am not a member of the tea party, but as I am not liberal and post Pro-Walker and fiscal conservative statements, I am constantly called one.
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So you saying that there are many illogical posters participating on this website. And of course I am prepared to now be called illogical myself.
Jan 15, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
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Gandalf
I apologize for giving you credit for a comment made by Good(not)American.
GoodAmerican
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:06 a.m.
wislady--You are the one who keeps saying that it's a very good thing for teabag people to do bad things because you've heard that a Democrat once did something wrong.
Jan 15, 2012 at 8:43 a.m.
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wislady, the word 'liberal' does not offend me. What is offensive is when people like you treat it as an expletive. When that happens, it's clear that you don't even understand the meaning of the word, nor do you understand how foundational liberalism is to our republic. In the context of the American Revolution, you and those like you would have been Tories. I've never used the term 'Tea Bag' to describe conservatives, although I would not hesitate to use that term to describe Tea Party members who dangle tea bags from their hats or wear them as ear rings. To equate the Tea Party with conservatism is highly illogical and counter to the truth. The Tea Party is radical (the opposite of conservatism) and un-American except in its pretense.
Jan 15, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
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RAF, you are absolutely incorrect about redistricting in WI. For generations, redistricting, during either Republican or Democratic legislatures has been reasonable and largely non-partisan. The latest Republican-led redistricting was blatantly designed to protect Republican-leaning districts and to force Democratic legislators into different districts wherever possible. You also fail to acknowledge that the right-wing bloggers here, including you, have expressed the sentiment that since the other side does it, it's OK for our side to do it, too. As I learned at an early age, two wrongs don't make a right.
Jan 15, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
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Fedup nut witch one of these things is not like the other,Carlitos /Lightkeeper /WISLADY /Hedge. Hint one has TB!
Jan 15, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
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Gandalf
Why would the word "liberal" offend you? Do you consider it as offensive as the T** B** word that you use to describe conservatives?
Jan 15, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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I have come to a conclusion that Carlitos/Lighthouse/wislady/helge all must be the same person as they are the majority leftwingers and say basically the same garbage with each post Throw Mouse in and we have the Dem supporters in a nutshell.
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Carlitos - Just though I would rewrite this for you. Do you see how hypocritical your post really is?
Jan 15, 2012 at 7:43 a.m.
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MooShoo - easy call here - dont send me private emails of an offensive nature. I do not send private emails period.
Jan 15, 2012 at 6:23 a.m.
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kidfirst so sorry I was away and didn't respond in the time frame you wanted, sarcasm deeply intended. Your retort to 916 and others shows you clearly intended no dialog on the issue so what was the point of your question in the first place? Did you miss the facts surrounding the real problem or has your partisanship eclipsed your ability to think for yourself in this matter?
Jan 15, 2012 at 6:16 a.m.
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Gandalf get off your self-serving high horse. Not one person claimed any party has the "right" to abuse redistricting; btw there is no right to redistricting. The fact remains this happens every 10 years and every ten years the party not in power claims abuse by those performing the process; required by the constitution. Making the claim you want a non-partisan redistricting performed by a partisan government structure is naïve, much like most of your comments.
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:32 a.m.
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wislady--You should repeat the second grade, and this time try to pass reading comprehension. I didn't say that your kids would do anything wrong. On the contrary, I gave them credit for doing the right thing--coming to you to report what they had seen. It is YOU who would, according to your earlier post, then do the wrong thing. I know that your intelligence level is very low, but try to get someone to explain to you what you are reading so you don't wind up sounding as dumb as feduptaxdodger.
Jan 15, 2012 at 4:06 a.m.
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wislady--You are the one who keeps saying that it's a very good thing for teabag people to do bad things because you've heard that a Democrat once did something wrong. By the way, one of my children was once given a civic commendation for returning an envelope of lost money, so you lie again.
Feduptaxpayer--Just shut up and pay your taxes, like a Good American.
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.
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I have come to a conclusion that fedup/916wi/wislady/ret. all must be the same person as they are the majority rightwingers and say basically the same garbage with each post Throw kaysbrew in and we have the GOP supporters in a nutshell.Kathy will just hide the tear drop locaters and post them when needed to change the outcome for her GOP and leave the rest in hiding that don't have her GOP covered. This is a serious issue and needs to have priority over anything to be corrected so it is a fair election for all parties. I would love to know who did the mapping program for this and what political areas are affected. I have my suspicions But I do not want to be to blunt on it. But I know the past has not been fair IMO on certain elections in a certain County that ended up with just the right amount of votes needed for their party to win on more then ONE occation.
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.
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F.U.T.P.'er, I am calling you out for that very uncool antic of posting a private email from a fellow blogger. If you think it was clever or funny, it wasn't. Keep doing it, and your street cred will be lower than the Joker's.
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:41 p.m.
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If Lori Stottler needs any help, I am sure the expert Kathy Nickolaus would be willing to lend a hand.
Beautiful.
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:28 p.m.
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Just in case there is any confusion as to which side of the fence Mrs. Stottler resides on, just check out this link.
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http://www.rockcountydems.org/ht/d/Offic...
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:39 p.m.
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Wislady - it appears as if the lefties are again restless. Do I detect bully tactics??
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:37 p.m.
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No one has conned you - and as far as integrity, looked in the mirror lately?
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:36 p.m.
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916WI apparently you did not read my post well. it was directed to RetAF who indicated that redistricting happens every 10 years. I was hoping to get some rational response from someone who dismissed the problems as if they were irrelevant. Maybe all of you right-winged, whining, posters are the same person and get confused when responding. . . . just wondering.
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:31 p.m.
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gee, fedup -- I didn't know that you are mentor 397 and Retired AF -- was looking forward to hearing from someone with a bit more integrity and originality than you. . . oh well, this is not the first time I was conned.
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
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wislady, the way you use the word 'liberalism' shows that you certainly don't know its meaning. Just to let you know: it's not an expletive, despite your desire to make it one. In fact, in it's true meaning, it's the foundation of our republic and constitution.
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:11 p.m.
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GoodAmerican
Where do you come up with these wild ideas? Just because your kids would do that, doesn't mean mine would....your "example" is the concept of liberalism.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:47 p.m.
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Got this via my person email.
Hello,
The user tthompson sent the following message to you via GazetteXtra.com:
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put your money where your mouth is and email scott angus. he told me they can never have enough bloggers. i dare ya
So what do you all say - who would like to see a Blog from the Feduptaxpayer???
Jan 14, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
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Help me out F.U.T.P'er. Are you telling us the Gazette is a leftist rag full of propaganda and is anything but fair and balanced? Or, are you telling us that you don't like the news unless it agrees with your very conservative viewpoint? It would help me if you can tell me when the leftie bias first appears in the story above.
Jan 14, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.
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I caught the line "I am frightened that I may be held responsible for something that is not in my control," - yet that is precisely what is being advocated when people want to judge teachers by their students test scores. Get used to this type of responsibility, where the worker is not judged by what he or she does, but by what someone else does.
Jan 14, 2012 at 4 p.m.
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Apparently they do - you did. You usually can detect a leftie bias article within the 1st 2 or 3 sentences. I alway skim read and look at posts prior to doing the same. As I had received a personal email, I wanted to be sure that I had not missed anything and I did not. Not that i need to explain myself.
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RETAIN WALKER
Jan 14, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.
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RECALL WALKER!
Jan 14, 2012 at 1:38 p.m.
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"As apparently somebody seems to have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed, I decided to go and read this article in its entirety."
So you posted 4 comments regarding the article before you even read it. That tells me you are already biased and have formed an uninformed opinion and have decided to remain ignorant. You really can't expect anyone to take your post seriously.
Jan 14, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
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As apparently somebody seems to have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed, I decided to go and read this article in its entirety. It to me is a total waste of cyber space. I am again disappointed that the Gazette even posted it. In my opinion this is again nothing more than another attempt to take a jab at the current administration and make all the good they have done look falsely bad. I gotta get me my own blog on here and you all have my word that I will take no personal offense to any of your comments.
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RETAIN WALKER
Jan 14, 2012 at 12:23 p.m.
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This is not right or left happening, just a progression that needs to be dealt with. It is a challenge and we should be grateful someone is trying to oversee, fix, and report on the system.
Lori and Frank, thank you for keeping us informed.
Jan 14, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
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kidsfirst.......You ask why so many problems this time?? Stottler made it very clear in her interview.....
"The problem seems to be a new state mapping system that is not as precise as the county's mapping systems, and the two systems don't agree."
It sounds like a software compatibility issue......Did you not read the article?
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
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wislady to her children--"What? You saw someone steal $5.00? Good. That means it's OK for you to steal $50.00."
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
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F.U.T.P.'er, Wisbaglady knows the democrats control the satellites. Do not use your Garmin. The GPS will take you to Rockford and you will never find your way home:)
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
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gandalf--That is ALWAYS the argument we hear from the teabag people. "Well the Democrats did something wrong. so now we get to do 10 things wrong." Every time someone points something out to wislady, her response is, "You mean like that Demmocrat did?" This juvenile attitude about every issue is what first turned me against the conservatives. They see every bad act by anyone else as providing free reign for them to do something worse.
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
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"Stottler blames the problem on the new lines the state drew when setting up voting districts in the wake of the recent census." This appears to be either an irresponsible partisan statement or biased reporting. Another article on the same problem indicates the problem is with the U.S census , or the GAB http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
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Wisbaglady, your party busted the public unions, passed voter suppression and gerrymandered the state like never before. Republicans are consolidating power and enforcing their will. Why don't you put on your big girl pants and admit it instead of making lame excuses and meaningless analogies about satellites?
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
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'Fearandrehtoricalness - We all read your posts as-"" Democrats , goood; Republicans, evil whiners. But you already know this.'
If that is genuinely how you are reading Fearandrhetoric4dummies posts...then you are not actually reading his posts
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
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non-partisan?n No such thing anymore.
Jan 14, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.
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wislady, mentor397, RAF, fedup, you all expose yourself as putting ideology before state and country by saying that the Republicans have a right to abuse redistricting because the Democrats do it, too, when they're in power. As for me, I prefer to demand non-partisan redistricting by someone other than the self-serving politicians.
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
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kidsfirst - no real problems here - these stories are just more of union puppetmaster directives to keep all the crap stirred up. Just keep on posting articles with misleading headlines and false facts.
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:36 a.m.
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Mentor397 -- yes, Gandolf does refer to the Republicans, but not so much due to their party as due to their methods of rushing these changes. Second, if you are offended by actions in Chicago, do you want Wisconsin tainted for the same behaviors?
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
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Retired AF -- if this happens every ten years, why so many problems this time?
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
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There will be lots of people complaining after they go to the polls and are unable to vote. Despicable!
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.
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@Gandalf - So according to you, it's only bad when Republicans do it? That's a pretty typical, ignoring it when your side does it, but as I said, typical of you liberal types. In any event, the Democrats do the exact same thing and don't pretend like it isn't true. As far as unprecedented? *COUGH* Chicago *COUGH*. That's all I need to say.
Jan 14, 2012 at 9:05 a.m.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
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Anything that tips the scales and keep money in our coffers is great with us. Keep up the good work.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
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Next claim the liberal will make........Republicans control the satellite systems.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
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COMMENTARY: Redistricting is only an outrage when the other side does it
http://www.wisconsinreporter.com/comment...
Dems......quit your complaining, when you have the chance, you do the same.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:18 a.m.
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I sure hope my Garmin GPS doesn't take me to Rockford the next time I travel in Rock County.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
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Fearandrehtoricalness - We all read your posts as-"" Democrats , goood; Republicans, evil whiners. But you already know this.
Jan 14, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
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Recall Stottler - another computer glich. How you lefties gonna pull off blaming this one on Waukesha?
Jan 14, 2012 at 7:49 a.m.
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wislady, you just supported my statement by saying 'the new state mapping system and the county mapping systems do not mesh.' In the past redistricting was based on local wards being created first, then congressional districts would be defined from that. In their rush to gerrymander, the Republicans in their unthinking rush first of all used a different methdod that didn't take into account the issues that would result due to different data in local GIS systems and the census data.
Jan 13, 2012 at 11:30 p.m.
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Yeah too bad this same thing occurs every ten years after each constitutionally required distribution of representation; affectionately known as gerrymandering/redistricting. Sadly many people have a problem with getting today’s facts straight, having them remember (or look up) the past is too much.
Jan 13, 2012 at 11:17 p.m.
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Wislady- From now on anyone should just read your posts as-"" Republicans , goood; Democrats, evil whiners! Here take a look at my totally non biased link from rightwingonlyinAmerica.com/onepartylunacy""
Sound about right? Get off it , please.
Jan 13, 2012 at 11:11 p.m.
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Gandalf
Wrong....the new state mapping system and the county mapping systems do not mesh. Nothing to do with the (required by law) redistricting. Keep whining, I guess usually it works.
Also, per this article....
"Stottler can't get more help because only people who have been state-trained and certified are allowed to use the state's mapping software. Borlick is not certified, so she has to work with Stottler to get the job done."
So I doubt the republicans or Walker have tampered with the mapping software.
Jan 13, 2012 at 11:07 p.m.
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mentor397, so according to you two wrongs make a right? That's a pretty lame spin on your part, but very typical of ideologues. In any event, the manner and rush of re-districting by the Republicans was unprecedented.
Jan 13, 2012 at 10:29 p.m.
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@Gandalf - You're right. Democrats would never redistrict in their partisan favor. /endsarcasmfont
Jan 13, 2012 at 10:02 p.m.
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MadCityDad, don't worry, it is in good hands with Kathy on the job. She burried the maps on her hard drive like a squirrel hides nuts in the backyard:)
Jan 13, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.
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Nice try, wislady, but, as usual, your ideological blinders prevent you from acknowledging that the Republicans changed the method of creating ward boundaries in their rush to complete re-districting in their partisan favor. On this subject they've left a hot, steaming turd behind them.
Jan 13, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
Jan 13, 2012 at 7:24 p.m.
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Wonder how Kathy Nickolaus is handling this?
Jan 13, 2012 at 7:19 p.m.
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"The problem seems to be a new state mapping system that is not as precise as the county's mapping systems, and the two systems don't agree."
It was NOT caused by the redistricting....nice try!
Jan 13, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
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GOP: Mission Accomplished!
Jan 13, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.
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An utterly ridiculous situation caused directly by the Republican party's top-secret, rushed redistricting without input from local clerks. Now the costs of fixing it are being borne by local taxpayers.
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