Another great example of failed liberal socialist interpretation, " he proclaimed it's indeed Bush's fault"

"In a clean break from the Obama years, AND FRANKLY FROM THE YEARS BEFORE THIS PRESIDENT, we will keep federal spending at 20 percent of GDP, or less." - Paul Ryan acceptance speech

Sorry, Gandalf, but I think Paul Ryan just provided us with the greatest "example of denial" that is possible. With that single declaration, he proclaimed it's indeed Bush's fault!

Great examples of denial .........

Obama did build that...

- Unemployment over 8% for over 3 1/2 years.
- The national debt larger than the size of the US economy.
- Our nations bond rating lowered for the first time in history.
- No national budget for over 3 years.
- Historic levels of national deficits.
- For every dollar spent the nation is borrowing 40 cents.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contri...

interesting and something we can all agree on
http://my.firedoglake.com/donmashakthecy...

truth can I make a pitch for you to support Governor Johnson?

The disorder of this entire social security issue lays in the fact that it has been taken away from those that worked for it by those that haven't worked for it.
Those that are out there protesting to leave hands off of social security must obviously not be concerned with what has happened to social security to begin with and are not concerned with what will continue to happen to it.Certainly it gets to the point that one is sure enough thinking that if those that are on social security do not recognize what is happening to social security probably deserve what will become of this ordeal anyway.
That does indeed have a resounding affect to ones opinion or concern,when those that receive social security aren't even concerned for them-selves,one has to wonder then who should be.If those on social security are not on social security for mental disorders,can not discern the situation of seriousness of the problem,then perhaps the problem should probably become yours not ours.
However,those that are protesting to leave hands off social security are not necessarily on social security either.They more than likely belong to the drama guild.Because anyone that is on social security for reasons other than mental illness wouldn't possibly be out protesting to leave hands off when social security as we k[no]w it today,couldn't possibly be out to leave it the way that it is.
Those protesters must obviously be on the side of the Ryan camp.Ryan wants to "redefine social security".Ryan does not believe in abortion at all.None.
By not believing in abortion at all,that there would be an astounding increase in the amount of what ever the word for it would be,toward those that absolutely do not put in to social security to begin with.That means that those that are on social security as we know it yesterday,will be put aside and the burden will be put on their families while the increase of social security with mental issues will increase.
Those that argue to leave hands off social security will argue that this type of language is harsh and uncaring.While I will argue that any resonance toward those that have put into social security are the ones that are being harassed in the first place where by putting mental disease on the list of recipients.

I, for one, will not be "voting" since there is no one to vote FOR.....I suppose sitting at home while so many others are "voting" will make me feel "left out" of something, but "left out" of WHAT, exactly??

misterjensen
I voted for Walker and I am a State Worker. I knew what I was getting into. To me the sacrifice was worth it. I have no problem getting rid of my union who did nothing for me. I also have no problem giving up a little if it means a better future for my children. Which is why even if Romney and Ryan vote to change some of the systems that are broke and if I have to sacrifice a little, I don't mind. I want there to be a better future for my kids. Who's to say how much time we all have left on this planet. Why not help the future generations as much as we can. Stop giving away everything to everyone who is too lazy to work or those who keep popping off kid after kid. I do sympathize with the disabled and the elderly and I understand there aren't many jobs out there. I agree the elderly shouldn't have to be impacted as much as those groups that are draining the system. There has to be limits to what we can give. Ryan doesn't want to do away with Medicare, he wants to fix it and people will have the option and a voucher to pick another insurance program if they want something else. The Democrats want to keep people enslaved, keep them dependent so that they can control them. I don't trust all the government either. There are even Republicans who are puppets I agree but we have to have someone who has good character that is not afraid to challenge those behind the scenes, to stop the corruption. I trust and believe the combo of Romney and Ryan to do just that.

I see your partisanship blinds you as well I was hoping you were one of the thinkers, I guess I was wrong. Big Government is big government no matter which party is in charge and it doesn’t work… look around. I agree the Congress has roadblocked Obama, however couldn’t you say the same about the Senate when it comes to Ryans budget, which is only 100 million less than Obama’s? It has to be awfully tough to keep defending these parties and denying the truth.

I would rather 'waste' my vote for the right reasons than willingly contribute to failure.

misterjensen- Koch bros and Romney??
OK, but EVEN Soros and another of his major supporters have backed away from Obama, he's so corrupt and worthless.

misterjensen - You need your own head examined. Keep voting for the Kool-aid and false promises that bury this Country even deeper everyday. Keep voting for no budget, an endless checkbook and zero solutions. Keep voting for an administration that has done nothing more than add an obscene amount to the already existing problem. You believe Obama is the lesser of two evils? That is laughable. The man blames everyone for his own lack of leadership. He is a disgrace to Kennedy, Clinton, etc who at least understood some compromise. Why any democrat can't look at Obama and go, "this guy is a joke" and not what the democrats need, is beyond me. Obama is President, but he is not a leader.

eagle1 - No, I am not voting for evil. Obama adopted the mess that GW made of this country. Congress & cleaning up the mess have prevented him from doing great things for this country. Actually, to be fair to GW, this country's went down the tubes the day that Reagan came to office. Ronnie was definitely one of the master architects behind the ruination of this country.

dreamchaserme - People were opposed to Walker, because he wanted to strip workers of their rights. Simple as that.

misterjensen so you vote for evil? in a nutshell you just showed us why the system is broke... its the voter, we continue to give these guys more and more power. Will Johnson win, no, will he change minds if given a platform on the debate? ABSOLUTELY! Honestly the only difference between Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden is the speed at which we go over the edge, The GOP is driving a Corvette, the Democrats are driving a Ferrari.

Eagle1 - Yes, of course, Obama is part of the machine as well. He can't help that congress has tied his hands every step of the way. I'd rather choose the lesser of evils, because, let's get real, there's no way anyone like Johnson is going to be elected. Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan are puppets of people like the Koch Brothers who are looking to screw all of the little people. I can't see how any middle or lower class person can get behind Romney, even if a hometown creep like Ryan is on the bill.

vanmiller, Carlito's Way and MisterJensen: Just because someone wants to vote for Romney/Ryan does not mean they need their head examined. And why the heck would I choose my vote based on the fact that Ryan is from Janesville? That is one of the stupidest reasons. That's like voting for Obama because he was black. Intelligent people want to vote for Romney/Ryan because they are sick of the way Obama has purposely tried to ruin this country! We need leaders that are going to bring back some type of normalcy and Morality to this nation. I am an Independent, only choose my leaders on their qualifications and whom I feel has the best experience and who can best make the right decision. Not on someone who is only in it for the glory and admiration of it all like Obama. Who has had hardly any experience. To me, anyone who votes for Obama after he has failed us all these years are the dumb ones. If you want to continue to be a sheep than go for it. I'm so sick of all the people who are just looking for handouts who feel threatened by a Romney/Ryan ticket. Character is what matters most, not a big Ego leading this country. I for one cannot wait to see how the people are going to choose. After seeing how things played out in the Walker Recall, I think there is hope for the Wisconsin people. I still don't understand why so many in Janesville were opposed to Walker or voted for Obama in the past. Let's hope people wake up and smell the coffee. If they don't, they are only going to be leading themselves into a death sentence. Obama is killing this country. I never trusted him from day one and still don't. As a person who has done my homework, which all of you should before you make such a big decision, I can honestly say I think I'm going to make the right choice.

oldvet: "The moron protesters didn't learn a thing after getting stomped in the Walker recall. It's good to Let them continue to make themselves look foolish"

There is nothing more foolish looking than citizens exercising their constitutionally quaranteed rights. Rights that thousands have fought and died to preserve. Silly, silly fools

misterjensen I agree that nobody should vote for them, not for the reasons you list, once again you are just falling prey to the usual partisan shallowness, Bush got us into this mess by hardly being a conservative and neither is Ryan or Romney, they are closer to Obama than they would like to admit. So yes nobody should vote for them, however, if you cast a vote for Obama you also need your head examined, this guy after 4 years still isn't qualified for the office. You partisans can continue to point fingers and claim to be different but you are not, you never bring change or reform you just volley power back and forth in a political tennis match. Both Republicans and Democrats contributed to the mess we are in and the solution is not by voting for them back in to keep the fiasco going. What are the two parties afraid of by including Gary Johnson in the debates, the fact that America will see how alike they really are? Admit it, Democrats and Republicans do the idiotic grunt work for the major parties by just reciting talking points that have as much substance as a bag of air. If you want real change you can find it if you want failure so you can continue being a victim by all means vote Obama or Romney. You guys are like the battered woman that continues to get beat by her husband but defends him and show loyalty... sad.

Eagle...agree with you. This country is going down the tubes fast and the left wants to focus on a stupid politician in MO who made a stupid statement. Go figure. We are headed for a train wreck folks so get ready for another recession (according to the CBO) if we don't do something. Obama has sat and twiddled his thumbs. He is too busy campaigning to do his job. Our debt level is fast approaching our GDP and will by the end of the year. Our unemployment is still over 8%. Yes, our hope and change has got up and went. We have more people going on social security disability than are finding jobs. Our welfare rolls have skyrocketed. We are in a mess. But let's argue about that politicians stupid comment.

Obama/Biden>>>> just ANOTHER brand of poison

Anyone from Janesville who casts a vote for Romney/Ryan this November ought to have their head examined. Just take a look around you...this country has gone down the tubes, because of self-interested conservatives like Romney & Ryan. Who cares that Ryan is a local? The last thing he's going to ever think about is Janesville or the little guy if these people are elected. It's nauseating to watch the RNC to see just how racist & shameless conservatives are.

The partisan hacks always go for the easy cheap emotional points to debate on, glad to see they are fully on display in this thread. When you don't debate with substance how can anyone expect to vote for it as well?

Everybody, keep eating from the Republican and Democrat dumpsters and wonder why you stay sick.

dreamchaser- There is another one of that ilk here too, that vanmiller creature.

At least these protesting teachers didn't have to call-in sick and abandon their students (like they did last spring) in order to attend.

very offended by Carlito's Way about women being dumb if they vote for Romney & Ryan. I'm probably more intelligent than you.

Sigma40 - Who cares if he ran a concentration camp 20 years ago, it is TODAY now? Tell that to a family of Jews. STUPID comment!

That's a very good point wasp. I have no problem knowing that my paycheck originated from people who are happy with average.

saxcat70- "I've never had my paycheck signed by a poor person". A talking point I hear from the right often. I worked for a large corporation and was paid well, most of the money I was paid came from average people. I think it is really that way with most people, but the other phrase makes good press. I am retired and still am in my own business, my money still comes from average people. By the way wasn't the ryan production a protest? Sure looked like one to me. The protestors last year got more people day after day.

Honorfist wrote: "Unless something is done to fix Social Security by either raising taxes, raising the age, cut the benefits, etc, there will be no Social Security as we know it today."

I agree. Eliminate the income restriction and increase the retirement age for everyone under 45 years old (and I do fall into that category). That would solve the problem, but that is effectively "raising taxes". Republicans have signed a pledge to never raise taxes, so you get a Ryan plan that eliminates Social Security and Medicare as we know it. I can't imagine myself at 80 years old, having to navigate the private sector for my Social Security and Medicare replacement, and I bet everyone knows somebody who would have a hard time doing that right now. It's sometimes surprising how people want to vote Romney/Ryan, when it's effectively against their self interest.

Ecartman you are correct there is an alternative on all 50 ballots his name is Gary Johnson. Despite the GOP trying to oust him from the Iowa and Pennsylvania ballots he will be there and he is the only option other than the continued failure of Obama/Romney policies.

Eagle and West -of course Paul is not an idiot. He is supplying a demand from the hate and fear groups. Plus Paul has chosen the right people to defend -the persecuted wealthy.

In that regard, Dan Quayle was pretty smart, as is Sarah Palin.

Oh yes, they are very smart, it's the people in the tri-cornered hats that are very dumb. But they make great Patriots.

They are in office to serve the Elite. To think otherwise is just fictional. That's why most leave richer then they ever were before entering politics.

Is this what happens when the Mormon church gets in the whitehouse? Now Rmoney is against all porn and will "vigorously enforce" all laws to get rid of it all. He is for deregulating the rich but adding regulation because the Mormon church says it is sinful?
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/2...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dq35zZ4J...

West, There is a chance for all possible candidates to have their voices heard and have their name on the voting ballot. The field has simply narrowed down. I agree Ron Paul has alot of great views, but does not have the backing of Romney. I see this country divided now more than ever, and moving in two totally separate directions. I simply have made a choice to support the candidate that represents my values the most, and more importantly beat Obama ofcourse.

westorbust, thank you for your post, finally someone else gets it on here!!!!!

I don't think Paul Ryan is an idiot. Just the opposite in fact. I think he is a shrewd and intelligent politician. He's done a stellar job of playing both sides of the coin, doing one thing while suggesting he doesn't support what he already did. I just fail to understand how the "Tea Party" Republicans can support Paul Ryan. My guess is many of you don't understand what it means to be a libertarian, but then that's what's happened. The libertarian movement was watered down and commercialized then folded into the Republican platform, nearly completely stripping it of any meaning whatsoever. Maybe if Someone besides Ron Paul could articulate the ideas behind it, it would stand a better chance. So as a grass roots movement, it has died, just like the environmentalism of the 90's was folded into the Democrats and lost any meaning whatsoever.
I can't support the Patriot Act in any way, nor "Homeland Security". I'm not a fan of the bank bailouts, and felt the stimulus would have been better spent on works projects, like the CCC, thought GM should have probably went bankrupt, support limited action in Afghanistan, because I don't you can disengage from the world, did not support the Iraq war and felt the Saddam would have been eventually crushed under the weight of his regime, and support a cutting of military spending, or as I call it war welfare. I don't think the ACA is the best thing for healthcare, but don't think that private healthcare companies are the answer to our large problems. Who do I vote for? Certainly not Romney/Ryan and I find it harder to vote for Obama. This two choice world we live in is the problem, not the answer.

So much hate and anger from carlito. Very much what I have been seeing from the left. Hate, scare, and divide is the new democrat mantre.

Carlitosway, Ill say it again. I've never had my paycheck signed by a poor person. You go ahead and despise the rich and what they stand for. I'll go ahead benefiting from their hard work and sacrifices.

Unless something is done to fix Social Security by either raising taxes, raising the age, cut the benefits, etc, there will be no Social Security as we know it today. Maybe some of these protesters could put forth some solutions as how to keep SS and Medicare solvent without throwing all the funding on the people that have been successful. I see a Moveon.org sign in the crowd so I just consider the source. People, it is time to stop Mr. Soros from doing your thinking, think for yourselves and your children!
Interesting how it is such a big deal when Ms. Daly who lived in Wisconsin for less than a month is drooled over by the left, but a hometown person that has made such a positive impact is protested. Makes me all the more determined to support the Romney/Ryan ticket in any way I can.

It is always nice when the truly insane people come together into one place it is easier to keep track of them. That is what happens when you get Ryan supporters and haters in the same place. They are all supporting and hating the same thing. Ryans budget is only 100 million less than Obamas and does nothing to eliminate the debt. The Republicans propose a balanced budget by 2028. So much for fiscal conservatism, you republicans might as well go vote for Obama, at least his supporters want him to run the country down the tubes, they are not fooling themselves that he is something he isn't.

What does it matter if he had govt jobs? All the more qualified if you ask me... all the money comes from the same place anyway. You people pick the stupidest things to try and make people look bad. Who cares if he ran a concentration camp 20 years ago....it is TODAY now.

The moron protesters didn't learn a thing after getting stomped in the Walker recall. It's good to Let them continue to make themselves look foolish.

yada/mouse....are you still mad because Walker won the recall? Give it a rest. You seem to be going off the deep end.

"Another GOP Lie Exposed: Scott Walker / John Doe Prosecutors Reveal Source Of Leaks"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/26...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/p...

"Guide To The MAIN Players In The Ever EXPANDING FBI WALKERGATE John Doe Investigation"

http://scottwalkerwatch.com/2012/02/01/g...

"ONGOING JOHN DOE PROBE OF WALKER AIDES REACHES STATE LEVEL"

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

http://www.fox47.com/newsroom/top_storie...

whineylady- "Sorry that you have so much anger and jealousy". Isn't there something about pots and kettles?

Republican Tom Smith(REPUBLICAN - from PA)Another AKINish blunder - "PA GOP Senate Candidate: Getting PREGNANT From RAPE Is Similar To Having A Baby Out Of Wedlock"

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/08/...

Article # 2 Reason SMITH (Republican) was asked related question is because they are trying to change a procedure that has been legal for at least 40 years. "They would prohibit abortion even in the cases of rape, incest, and when the LIFE of the MOTHER is in Danger...."
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/...

Good observation Poorrichard. It kinda jumped out at me as well. Following and protesting someone for a year is a good reason for a restraining order. I'm sure the Secret Service took notes and pics of the 30..:) Funny stuff.

It's going to be great. 16 years of Ryan in the White House. 16 Years of carlitosway crying, but the Country will be safe from the likes of Obummer and his lies.

AND he collected social security... let's not forget that part.

Sorry that you have so much anger and jealousy, carlitosway....peace to you.

I don't think that he wants to cut welfare.He just wants to redefine it.

He did hold a job in the private sector...driving the weinermobile.....

Interesting how this guy got through college on his father's social security checks, yet wants to basically trash social security. The old "I got mine, screw you" mentality.

Way to show your intelligence, Sigma, "He's anybody but Obama so im all for him."

He's anybody but Obama so im all for him.

Following him for a year? Hey, Secret Service guys - did you catch that?

I love the pic of the genius on the home page linking this article......holding up the "Hands off Medicare and Social Security" sign......really? Doesn't the clueless wonder realize that if ether party took their "hands off" of either of those entitlement programs that when it came time for this person to collect that there would be nothing there to collect?

What's the matter with these people. Don't they understand what an honor it is to have a local boy fighting for the cause of the persecuted wealthy on a national stage.

He's our very own Sarah Palin!

Ryan worked corn detasseling as a teen, McDonalds, as a waiter and driver of the Weinermobile to put himself thru college. He worked for a senator as an unpaid page. Molina needs to get a life.
Most kids would not think of doing work like this anymore.

30 protestors, wow, I'm impressed!

Very indicative of the gazette's bias when they have story after story on the send-off rally but no word on what Paul Ryan said. Now we have a larger full story of what the protestors at the rally said, did and threaten. Way to go Gazette staff.

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/is...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/28/...

"He's running on a platform of smaller government, but he's only ever held government jobs," Molina said.
McDonald's is a government job?

So Molina has been following Ryan around for about a year,eh? Who follows somebody for a year? A stalker maybe or a nutcase? Why would you tell a reporter that? Are you proud of it? This women needs help because she's clearly the one out of touch.