Janesville stories arise from Ryan media storm
JANESVILLE — Many stories emerged from Janesville in the past week as dozens of reporters converged on the city to learn more about the hometown of Paul Ryan, who was announced Aug. 11 as Mitt Romney’s vice presidential running mate.
At the same time, the swarm of national and international media made and left behind their own stories in what normally is a quiet southern Wisconsin city. Here are some of them:
Up-tick in business, intrigue
Some downtown businesses have seen an up-tick in business and intrigue as national media have staged productions and interviews downtown.
While reporters use the color of Janesville’s Main Street to paint a narrative of Paul Ryan, downtown business owners are basking in the attention.
Joni Bozart, who owns Carousel Consignments in downtown Janesville, said several national news reporters and television producers came in to her shop to browse.
Some snapped up pieces of General Motors memorabilia. Bozart said a few of the television producers said they planned to use the curios as props to paint a picture of life in Janesville.
One customer, Bozart said, was Fox News commentator Greta Van Susteren.
Van Susteren was in Janesville to get live interviews from Janesville residents on Ryan’s nomination for her show, “On The Record with Greta Van Susteren.”
Bozart said Van Susteren, who is a Wisconsin native, bought an interesting item: a life-size cutout of Brett Favre.
“She was in and out pretty fast, and you could tell she knew exactly what she came in for,” Bozart said. “It was pretty cute.”
Appetite for publicity
Next door at 29 South Cafe, owner Angela Collas said she’s lost track of the reporters and crews who have come pouring in for lunch and to stage interviews.
Collas said her cafe, which is across the street from Ryan’s Janesville office, has been frequented by production crews for Fox News and reporters from the Los Angeles Times, to name a few of the media outlets.
One TV crew filmed her and her staff at work in the kitchen.
Collas said Ryan’s family are “great customers” who come into her café regularly. For the record, Paul Ryan’s usual order at 29 South is healthy, sensible and no-frills, Collas says: It’s turkey burgers and fruit. No French fries.
Anything spicy?
Tony Huml, a friend of Ryan since grade school, was first interviewed by The Gazette on Saturday. That started a deluge of calls from all over.
“Let’s think,” he said Tuesday, his voice sounding a bit hoarse. “Sunday was CBS national, CNN, The Daily out of New York. Yesterday was ABC national, CNN, there were two CBSes, too. And then I’ve got a call from Reuters and then the AP. And tonight, the Spanish newspaper.”
Huml said Tobin Ryan, Paul Ryan’s brother, asked if it was OK if Tobin gave reporters Huml’s name as a childhood friend.
“Certainly, I said ‘Yes,’” Huml said. “But it’s tough to put a different spin on the same story. How long is this going to go on?”
He said the interest from people all over the world has surprised him.
“I will say, a couple of times, they wanted to hear something spicy,” Huml said. “I don’t have anything spicy.”
Don’t tell Bob
The national media descended upon Janesville with familiar story lines, including an interview with one of his teachers—did he throw spitballs in class?—and recollections of neighbors—did he cut across your lawn on the way to school?
Van Susteren adopted the city. She brought her show to Janesville and broadcast live from the Craig High School gymnasium.
“The first thing I thought when I was asked to be on her show was who would be appointed to tell Bob Suter a cable news show was using his floor for a stage,” said Stan Milam, a veteran reporter who has covered Ryan since his first congressional race in 1998. Suter is a retired Craig basketball coach who was known for his concern about and care for the gym floor.
“I didn’t have much time to think about it,” Milam continued, “because I was off to Cost Cutters for a trim and application of forming cream.”
Milam, who graduated from Craig when it was known as Janesville Senior High School, got a taste of national media when the Van Susteren crew asked if they should send a car to bring him to Craig.
“I’ve had teachers and administrators ask me to leave the premises but never an offer to send a car to escort me to the school,” he said. “I told them I could find the place.”
Milam described the experience as “40 minutes of boredom followed by three minutes of frightening uncertainty.”
He must have done OK because Van Susteren asked him to do a Main Street Janesville piece that was to air Friday as part of her special on Ryan.
Most famous prom queen
Heather Crandall Gwaltney has heard reports that her picture has been in the most unlikely places, including the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Inside Edition and many websites.
She’s the one standing next to Paul Ryan in a high school picture.
“We had that picture taken for The Gazette, and it was just advertising the prom was coming up, and we were the prom king and queen,” she said Wednesday.
“Who knew, 25 years later … ”
Her kids say she is famous, said Gwaltney, who lives in Virginia Beach. She said she responds, “I’m not famous. Paul is famous. I’m just the nameless person next to him in the picture.”
Gwaltney wasn’t prepared for the spotlight, although she did get a call from a journalist last year when Ryan floated his budget and became a household name.
“I thought that was odd and random,” she said.
The photo first showed up when Ryan was Time magazine’s runner-up for Person of the Year.
“It’s too funny,” she said, but added the publicity makes her a little nervous. The only reporter she called back works for her hometown paper.
Gwaltney hasn’t talked to Ryan for 20 years.
She gets angry when she sees references to the fact he was called a “brownnoser” in the school yearbook.
He wasn’t a brownnoser; he was just really likable, she said. He could converse with everybody and had a level of maturity.
“He’s a nice guy,” she said. “Everybody liked him.”
The pair did not actually date, she said. He was class president so was automatically king, and she was class secretary.
“I was a safe choice,” she said. “We just went as friends and had a fun time.”
She doesn’t remember Ryan dating anyone in high school.
“His dad passed away in ’86,” Gwaltney said. “He would have been a sophomore, and he just had a different perspective than most of us on reality.”
“We’re proud of Paul, and I’m sure all of Janesville has the same perspective,” she said.
“He’s stayed rooted. He’s one of us.”
Really? $2 shoes?
Terry Moss on Monday was still fretting about talking to a reporter last weekend from USA Today.
She is a neighbor of Janna and Paul Ryan and wasn’t prepared for the deluge of reporters roaming the area over the weekend.
She and her husband were outside when a USA Today reporter stopped by.
She was mortified when her comment about Janna Ryan’s $2 shoes from Goodwill showed up in media all over. Janna Ryan’s fashion sense is of hot interest, and the $2 shoes were a tasty tidbit.
The article also said the Mosses were Republicans, and Moss said they never discussed that.
After that, WGN Radio from Chicago called, along with the Washington Post and the Miami Herald. Then, the couple simply said: “We hold them (the Ryans) in the highest esteem, and that’s all we were going to say.”
Aug 22, 2012 at 11:34 p.m.
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Actually if this is the table you are using, it does not show 52 straight months of job growth in the time frame you reference. Jobs fell September to October of 2006, and June through August 2007.
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2002 130591 130445 130421 130337 130328 130375 130275 130264 130209 130330 130338 130175
2003 130270 130111 129898 129849 129840 129840 129865 129820 129929 130126 130140 130259
2004 130421 130465 130802 131051 131361 131442 131488 131610 131771 132119 132182 132316
2005 132453 132693 132834 133194 133364 133607 133981 134174 134240 134320 134654 134814
2006 135097 135413 135696 135877 135891 135967 136176 136359 136516 136507 136711 136882
2007 137118 137211 137401 137473 137612 137687 137647 137629 137702 137781 137893 137982
2008 138023 137939 137844 137636 137446 137248 137038 136764 136332 135843 135040 134379
2009 133561 132837 132038 131346 130985 130503 130164 129933 129734 129532 129490 129319
2010 129279 129244 129433 129672 130188 130021 129963 129912 129885 130105 130226 130346
2011 130456 130676 130922 131173 131227 131311 131407 131492 131694 131806 131963 132186
2012 132461 132720 132863 132931 133018 133082(P) 133245(P)
Aug 22, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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If you read what I said was the cite that RAF made to refute another poster does not show it,52 straight months, and it doesn`t. Even to RAF, I never said it didn`t happen, my argument was that it was anemic growth at the time, and it was. The growth now is also, from a considerably worse recession based on losses in housing prices, which takes longer to recover from.
Aug 22, 2012 at 8:42 p.m.
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Pharm,
the BLS-Bureau of Labor Statistics or to make it really easy for you bps.gov shows 52 consecutive months of consecutive job growth from Sept 2003 through December 2007. This is not opinion. You can chose to believe its not true-
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?c...
Isnt it easier to concede that you are wrong? Obama has 27 months of consecutive job creation as well. Pelosi said this is a big accomplishment-what say you? If Obama has done so well with 27 months of job creation-imagine if he could achieve 52 months of consecutive growth like Bush? Obama hopefully will be long gone in January 2013 and the real change can begin.
Aug 22, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
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Using the chart provided by RAF, there was never more than 9 consecutive months of job growth in the time frame you mention. Our discussion has been about his use of this chart to refute something another poster said, which turned out to be true. But, his chart also does not show 52 straight months of growth under Bush. I am not arguing whether it happened, or not, just the fact that what RAF provided does not show what he says it does.
Aug 22, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.
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Pharm,
Under Obama there has been 42 consecutive months of unemployment above 8% and the U6 rate (the real rate) is around 15%. Maybe this is Bushs fault too?
Sure it is. Hope and Change. Forward.
This post is written without the use of a teleprompter.
Aug 22, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.
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Pharm,
Bush is not president. But there were 52 consecutive months of job creation from August 2003 through December 2007. BLS.gov tracks this data-and no these were not temporary census workers.....
Aug 22, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
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Ah, so you want me to go back to when you FIRST said "52 straight months", 2 years ago, or so. Cute, yet the chart you are using to refute whythink is the one we are supposed to use now, even though the Bush years on it don`t show 52 straight months of job growth. I get it, your original statement was from something else, much like the source you derided for whythinks posting. So, unless I scroll through over 10,000 of your posts to find the ones where you claimed 52 straight months, and find your cite, we are supposed to think you were right? Your own cite from Monday refutes 52 straight months.
Aug 22, 2012 at 6:40 a.m.
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Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417(1) 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472(1) 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245(1) 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143150(1) 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
2007 146028(1) 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
2008 146397(1) 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
2009 142187(1) 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
2010 138500(1) 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
2011 139330(1) 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
2012 141637(1) 142065 142034 141865 142287 142415 142220
Nowhere on the chart from your link does it show 52 straight months of job growth under Bush.
Aug 22, 2012 at 2:03 a.m.
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pharm stated "Where are the 52 straight months of jobs growth you have frequently touted as a Bush accomplishment in those numbers?"
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They are with the link I supplied when I provided that statement; multiple times.
Aug 21, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
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"The wealthiest 30 percent of the population accounts for nearly 89 percent of health care expenditures, according to a government study. Tens of millions of Americans — those whose employers don’t provide health insurance, who are too poor to pay for it themselves and yet are too rich to have Medicaid — get the least health care of all.
A study of hospital emergency rooms in Wisconsin found that victims of severe traffic accidents without health insurance got 20 percent less care. Hospitals spent $3,300 more on average for each victim who was insured. They kept the insured 9.2 days, on average, and the uninsured just 6.4 days. Unsurprisingly, the uninsured were 40 percent more likely to die from their injuries.
Every health care proposal from the right and the left includes some form of implicit rationing device. Paul Ryan’s plan, on the Republican side, would keep spending on Medicare under 4.75 percent of the nation’s output until 2050 by giving seniors born after 1958 a dollop of money to purchase their own insurance, forcing many to choose cheaper plans or fewer procedures."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/busine...
Very well written, informative piece. Balanced, IMO.
Aug 21, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
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I don't trust Obama...
Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
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People need to be very cautious of the double-talk of Romney, Ryan and the Republican party platform on abortion.
"Romney and his running mate Paul condemned Akin’s remarks and pledged that under a Romney administration, abortion would be allowed in the case of rape. An exemption for rape, though, is not included in the platform set to be adopted by the party Romney will officially lead when nomination next week.
And Ryan, his vice presidential pick, has opposed exceptions for rape and voted alongside Akin in the House, though Ryan now says he defers to Romney’s position on the matter." [ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/201... ]
Some moral conviction on Ryan's part, isn't it? Who do you believe? Paul Ryan since elected? Paul Ryan since yesterday? Romney? Or the Republican platform? I say trust none of them!
Aug 21, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.
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The numbers I posted came from your link, private and public jobs are included. Where are the 52 straight months of jobs growth you have frequently touted as a Bush accomplishment in those numbers? The statement was private jobs growth, if you will remember. You highlighted that fact in one of your posts. The statement was, "Since March 2010, the United States has seen positive job growth, private sector job growth."
Even using your chart from the BLS, March,2010, 138,836,000 jobs ,July, 2012, 142,220,000 jobs, whythinks statement is still correct.
Aug 21, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
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The numbers I posted came from the BLS, "Employment Level - Civilian Labor Force - LNS12000000"
They can be found following this link http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?l... then selecting "Employment Level - Civilian Labor Force - LNS12000000"
The numbers you provided come from a survey of business and govt --- Each month the Current Employment Statistics (CES) program surveys about 141,000 businesses and government agencies, representing approximately 486,000 individual worksites, in order to provide detailed industry data on employment, hours, and earnings of workers on nonfarm payrolls.
The numbers I provided come directly from the population --- The Current Population Survey (CPS) is a monthly survey of households conducted by the Bureau of Census for the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It provides a comprehensive body of data on the labor force, employment, unemployment, persons not in the labor force, hours of work, earnings, and other demographic and labor force characteristics.
Aug 21, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
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RAF, I posted my monthly numbers and you called me a liar. I didn't find the monthly PRIVATE sector numbers with your link so I search BLS - YOUR LINK - and found quarterly numbers.
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If you google, "monthly private sector job growth" you will get multiple sites using my same monthly PRIVATE sector job growth numbers. The one below is just one example.
. http://money.usnews.com/money/careers/ar...
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Regardless, let's assume that my numbers were wrong and all those sources are lying... I still consider where we were in Jan. 2009 and see where we are now and ask, "Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?"
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You betcha!
Aug 21, 2012 at 8:17 a.m.
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Please look up the US House bill HR 3 that both Akin and Ryan co-sponsored.
They are the same thinkers. Women and parents with daughters watch out. Seniors and workers - Republicans are coming for you.
Aug 21, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
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Great cover story in latest Newsweek magazine, "HIT THE ROAD BARACK!" The liberals are starting to eat their own! Even the liberals are realizing what a failed presidency this is.
Aug 21, 2012 at 6:42 a.m.
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Private sector job growth was the statement. You might want to check the chart you are using to see if it has both private and public jobs listed because you won`t find 52 straight months of jobs growth under Bush on it either.
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417(1) 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472(1) 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245(1) 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143150(1) 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
2007 146028(1) 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
2008 146397(1) 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
2009 142187(1) 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
2010 138500(1) 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
2011 139330(1) 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
2012 141637(1) 142065 142034 141865 142287 142415 142220
1 : Data affected by changes in population controls.
Aug 21, 2012 at 6:08 a.m.
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Wow, even when presented with the REAL numbers the deflectors can't face the truth...so sad.
Aug 21, 2012 at 4:59 a.m.
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No difference if you count by month or quarter, whythink is correct. And speaking of making up your own facts, what happened to July, August and December of 2010 in your numbers? And how about January, February, July, August, September, October, November and December of 2011? And how about January and May of 2012? You decided those months don't count?
whythink said, "Since March 2010 the United States has seen POSITIVE JOB GROWTH, PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH!" And that is a correct assessment. Since March. 2010 America has seen positive job growth. Have there been months that were negative, yes. Have there been months that were positive, yes. Overall, since March, 2010 has America seen positive job growth as whythink stated, yes. Without question.
You may want to get back on the issues of Romney's tax returns/offshore bank accounts or the Akin/Ryan legislative partnership.
Aug 21, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
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Moving your goal posts to fiscal quarters? The data is broken out by monthly numbers by the BLS.
Employment level (number in thousands)
2010 May 139340 FELL Jun 139137
2010 Sep 139344 FELL Oct 139072
2010 Oct 139072 FELL Nov 138937
2011 Mar 139764 FELL Apr 139628
2011 May 139808 FELL Jun 139385
2012 Feb 142065 FELL Mar 142034
2012 Mar 142034 FELL Apr 141865
2012 Jun 142412 FELL Jul 142200
You can say what ever you want, you can't make up your own facts.
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:41 p.m.
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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cewbd.t0....
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This chart shows every three months and it appears, that I am CORRECT! If you look at the net gain/loss column you will see that every three months following March 2010 there was a net GAIN.
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First Quarter 2010
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2010/ted_201...
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Second Quarter 2010
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_201...
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Third Quarter 2010
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2011/ted_201...
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Fourth Quarter 2010
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_201...
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First Quarter 2011
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2011/ted_201...
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2nd Quarter 2011
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_201...
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3rd Quarter 2011
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_201...
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4th Quarter 2011
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_201...
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2011 Summary
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cewbd.nr...
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2012
https://www.google.com/search?q=2012+mon...
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RAF, "The only thing worse than telling tales is having others look up the data to find how faulty it was."
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AGREED!
Aug 20, 2012 at 10:42 p.m.
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whythink you might want to look up data for yourself, before posting other peoples words.
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?l...
Aug 20, 2012 at 10:42 p.m.
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Whythink's lie of the day, "Since March 2010 the United States has seen POSITIVE JOB GROWTH, PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH!"
If that tale was true why does the BLS data show a different result? The only thing worse than telling tales is having others look up the data to find how faulty it was.
Aug 20, 2012 at 10:33 p.m.
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whythink (good name), why don't you go look at my comments on "Rev. Wright, Birthers, "apology tour", lapel pins, President Obama's brother, Harvard grades/papers, etc...", then come back and offer your two cents. The only thing worse than partisan cheerleaders are those that speak without knowledge on subjects they think they know something about.
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
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RAF,
It is funny how now, distraction from the "left" is an issue.
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I wonder if you response to Rev. Wright, Birthers, "apology tour", lapel pins, President Obama's brother, Harvard grades/papers, etc... was simliar.
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Unfortunately, your blind partisanship leads me to believe you are as big of a hypocrite as you claim the "left" is.
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:19 p.m.
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Funny how the left get all bent out of shape when only people from one side of the political spectrum says something stupid, than claims its a war on something. Sadly the only war they rage is over partisan comments never real convictions; keeps them from having to be consistent.
Aug 20, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.
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I wonder if Ryan and conservatives will celebrate that his views on women's rights are just like the highly embarrassed and extreme Todd Akin from Missouri?
Aug 20, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
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DONNAW - I WON'T!
"""All the lefties will try to deflect people's attention on the failed Obama presidency by bringing up side issues. Our country is on track to go down the tubes and the lefties talk about comments on abortion. Boy, if that was the only problem we had. The lefties have no solutions of their own."""
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136K lost Feb. 2008
112k lost March 2008
215 lost April 2008
216k lost May 2008
231k lost June 2008
259k lost July 2008
294 lost Aug. 2008
425k lost Sept 2008
480k lost Oct. 2008
797k lost Nov. 2008
658k lost Dec. 2008
PRESIDENT OBAMA SWORN INTO OFFICE
839k lost Jan. 2009
725k lost Feb. 2009
787k lost March 2009
802k lost April 2009
312k lost May 2009
426k lost June 2009
296k lost July 2009
219k lost Aug. 2009
184k lost Sept. 2009
232k lost Oct. 2009
42k lost Nov. 2009
120k lost Dec. 2009
40k lost Jan. 2010
27k lost Feb. 2010
141k added March 2010
193k added April 2010
84k added May 2010
92k added June 2010
92k added July 2010
128k added Aug. 2010
115k added Sept. 2010
196k added Oct. 2010
134k added Nov. 2010
140k added Dec. 2010
119k added Jan 2011
257k added Feb 2011
261k added March 2011
264k added April 2011
108k added May 2011
102k added June 2011
175k added July 2011
52k added Aug. 2011
216k added Sept. 2011
139k added Oct. 2011
178k added Nov. 2011
234k added Dec. 2011
277k added Jan 2012
254k added Feb. 2012
147k added March 2012
85k added April 2012
116k added May 2012
73k added June 2012
172k added July 2012
Since March 2010 the United States has seen POSITIVE JOB GROWTH, PRIVATE SECTOR JOB GROWTH!
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Is this economy where it needs to be, "NO!" but is it heading in the right direction, "YES!".
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How does Mitt Romney's economic policies differ from GW's?
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""Romney:Mitt Romney claims the unemployment rate in Massachusetts fell during his tenure as governor, and that he created 40,000 jobs in his last year in office.
The Reality:As the nation’s economy grew and the median income rose, under Romney, Massachusetts plummeted from 36th to 47th out of 50 states in job creation, and the median income declined.""
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I celebrate this president, especially when being compared to his opponent(s).
Aug 20, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.
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I rest my case.
Aug 20, 2012 at 12:01 p.m.
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MBHammer said, "Obum claimed he could rally the troops, after all he was a community organizer."
"You Olympians, however, know you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions." - Mitt Romney speaking at opening of 2002 Olympics
Let's see, Romney was the organizer of those olympics in which communities built venues. That makes him a community organizer! Besides being a self-described progressive, supporter of gay rights, pro-choice, father of the healthcare individual mandate (RomneyCare) and stating that athletes (much like small business owners) didn't build that on their own, he and Obama have one more thing in common! They're both community organizers.
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
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The source is a book, not slate. Besides, can you show anything false in what it says?
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
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"Congressman's Akin comments on rape are insulting, inexcusable, and, frankly, wrong. Like millions of other Americans, we found them to be offensive." - Mitt Romney's follow-up comment on Akin's comments.
Even if the diehard conservatives on this site can't admit it, Mitt Romney just did. And good for Mitt Romney for his statement! Then again, Romney's views on abortion and gay rights have been anathema to Ryan and the Republican party for decades.
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:39 a.m.
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pharm...could you have found a more Left wing source? I don't think so.
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...
"The stimulus is producing the world’s largest wind farm, a half dozen of the world’s largest solar arrays, and America’s first refineries for advanced biofuels. It’s creating a battery-manufacturing industry for electric vehicles almost entirely from scratch. It financed net-zero border stations and visitors centers, an eco-friendly new Coast Guard headquarters, a one-of-a-kind “advanced synchrotron light source.” It jump-started three long-awaited mega-projects in Manhattan alone—the Moynihan Station, the Second Avenue Subway, and the Long Island Railroad connection to the East Side—and it would have jump-started that multibillion-dollar rail tunnel to New Jersey as well if Governor Chris Christie hadn’t killed the projec
The top priority for many local Republican politicians and Republican-leaning business organizations was avoiding a depression. They saw that the Obama stimulus wasn’t radical leftism; it was textbook countercyclical stimulus. Republicans had called for $300 billion worth of tax cuts, and that’s exactly what it had. Republican governors like Crist, Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, Jodi Rell of Connecticut, Jim Douglas of Vermont, and Jon Hunstman of Utah understood that its aid to states—over $160 billion worth—would prevent massive cutbacks of public services and massive layoffs of public employees. As the lobbyist for the Chamber of Commerce told me: When you sit where I sit, you don’t want to see an epic collapse of aggregate demand. Depressions are bad for business. I also tell a fun story of a Democratic aide screaming and cursing at some business lobbyists, warning that they’d get nothing from the Democratic Congress if they couldn’t support an economic recovery bill during an economic emergency.
But the top priority for Washington Republicans was denying Obama bipartisan victories, so that they could come back from political oblivion. There’s a lot of fun fly-on-the-wall stuff in the book about meetings where Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, and other GOP leaders made this case—and on-the-record quotes from former GOP congressmen like Mike Castle, George Voinovich, and Specter complaining about it. McConnell often reminded his caucus about the 1984 election. Everyone remembers it as the 49-state Reagan landslide, Morning in America; people forget that only one Republican challenger ousted a Democratic incumbent that year. (It was McConnell, so he remembers.) His point was that there was nothing to be gained by going along with Obama. If the recovery plan worked and the economy boomed, Republicans would get re-elected even if they had voted against Obama. But if the economy was still struggling in 2010, Republicans could make a comeback if they stuck together."
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.
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Obum claimed he could rally the troops, after all he was a community organizer.
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
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donnaw said: "All the lefties will try to deflect people's attention on the failed Obama presidency by bringing up side issues."
Is that some kind of joke? There isn't a right wing commenter on here that DOESN'T continually obfuscate the subject by posting completely non-related items, solely to deflect from their chosen candidates wing nut beliefs.
Obama's "failed" presidency? LOL. We have the worst Congress in the history of the US and you think the President "failed"?
Aug 20, 2012 at 11 a.m.
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I believe in equal pay, however if push comes to shove and I had a business I would lower the pay for the men then the women would be equal pay, not an increase like they want. In other words the back-fire approach would result.
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
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I will not vote for someone who votes against my right to make the same amount of money as a man for the same amount of work. Get with it Ryan. Women are not second class citizens !
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
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donnaw said, "The lefties have no solutions of their own."
And the Akin/Ryan co-sponsored House Resolution 3 that redefines the meaning of rape is the righties solution?
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:19 a.m.
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"The most ironic part it was cosponsored by members of both parties."
The most ironic part is that you didn't tell us how many of those 227 co-sponsors were Republicans. We know at least two were - the ideological soulmates Akin and Ryan. That leaves 225. Care to tell us how many of those remaining 225 were Republicans?
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
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All the lefties will try to deflect people's attention on the failed Obama presidency by bringing up side issues. Our country is on track to go down the tubes and the lefties talk about comments on abortion. Boy, if that was the only problem we had. The lefties have no solutions of their own.
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
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"Over the past two years the republican controlled house has authored close to 100 pieces of legislation regarding reproductive rights of women and abortion."
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I missed that information, please provide where that information can be found.
Just curious Barney, are you aware the house passed jobs bills that have stalled in the senate because Harry Reid refuses to place them on the floor?
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
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Janesville has, unfortunately, fared very poorly in the 13 or so years that Ryan has been its representative in congress, regardless of who the president has been.
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:54 a.m.
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LOL the fringe will stop at nothing to keep up their deflection. The newest distraction, H.R.3 - No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, was cosponsored by 227 members of the house. The most ironic part it was cosponsored by members of both parties.
Exempting information is a common trick done by those in the media as well; like mother jones. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/...
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
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"This isn't the first time Akin has expressed fringe views about rape in the context of the abortion debate. Last year, Akin, vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of "forcible rape."" [ http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/to... ]
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
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Barney I simply asked the person who raised the issue in this comment section, since it was off topic, why they had not stated anything about Whoopi when she defended a person that raped a young girl, by stating it wasn't rape rape. Just curious if there was a double standard. For all I know mouse might never have never heard that statement before, could give him/her the opportunity to have an opinion...after all they took it off topic to begin with.
Is there any reason you want to keep the (off) topic subject just about a person running for senator from another state? Is it the appalling subject, rape, you want to comment on or just a single person?
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:41 a.m.
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Akin and Ryan co-sponsored legislation to redefine the definition of rape. I guess we now have a much better undetstanding of what that definition would look like under a Romney-Ryan presidency. [ http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/to... ]
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
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Oh so now even though they, Romney and Ryan) disagreed with the silly statement its still all about the distraction from the failed economic policies of the current administration....anything to keep from talking about things like:
- Unemployment over 8% for over 3 1/2 years.
- The national debt larger than the size of the US economy.
- Our nations bond rating lowered for the first time in history.
- No national budget for over 3 years.
- Historic levels of national deficits.
- For every dollar spent the nation is borrowing 40 cents.
No worries though, the current president says the private economy is doing just fine...
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
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“Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape." - Romney campaign
Oh? When did Ryan flip-flop on this issue? And that's the strongest rebuke we get from Romney? He disagrees? How about unambiguously condemning the ignorant comments of Akin about "legitimate rape?"
Wake up, America. The writing is on the wall!
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
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Barney are you reading something I wrote that provided you with that insightful opinion? I suspect you have attended the failed left wing mind reading school. Try just reading what is actually there, of course you can skip the BIG words if you need to.
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
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Yep because equating Akin to Ryan should help deflect the crowd away from the failed economic policies of Obama...LOL
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
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Ryan and Akin are poster boys for the need for sex education in schools.
Aug 20, 2012 at 8 a.m.
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barney does the topic of rape end with senate candidates?
Aug 20, 2012 at 7:33 a.m.
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Mouse I missed your comments when Whoopi defended Roman Polanski saying it wasn't rape rape. Did you miss her comments or are you just upset someone else said something silly about rape?
Aug 20, 2012 at 7:28 a.m.
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Does Scott Walker speak in tongues?
http://uppitywis.org/blogarticle/no-joke...
Aug 20, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
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DonNAW - You probably also support this REPUBLICAN- TODD AKIN -> brainchild and his
"legitamate rape" comments.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/comp...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/19...
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/us/pol...
Aug 20, 2012 at 7:06 a.m.
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I love reading mouse's posts
Aug 20, 2012 at 6:51 a.m.
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I loved the recent cartoon which showed Obama hiding behind and being protected by four big burly "secret service" guys with the name tags on them reading CNN, NCB, MSNBC, CBS.
Aug 20, 2012 at 6:47 a.m.
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yada..and you criticize others for watching FOX when you cite these far far left wing sources? WOW!
Aug 20, 2012 at 6:16 a.m.
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The MOST important reason to NOT VOTE for Romney are posted for you to read - Mormons are a CULT. I guess for some people it is more important to be a Republican than to be a Christian & support the true Christ of the Bible.
http://pastors4huckabeeblog.com/the-bibl...
http://www.truthinaction.org/index.php/2...
http://mormoncult.org/
Aug 20, 2012 at 6:08 a.m.
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"Obama OBLITERATES Romney And Ryan's Medicare LIES"
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-oblite...
"Paul Ryan's LIES Can't Hide His True Belief
That STIMULUS Is The Path To Prosperity"
http://www.politicususa.com/paul-ryans-l...
"12 Things You Should Know About Vice Presidential Candidate Paul Ryan"
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/0...
"You Don't Know Mitt: 99 Facts About Mitt Romney"
http://thinkprogress.org/romney-facts/
Aug 20, 2012 at 5:55 a.m.
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"Romney - Ryan Are ALBATROSSES half Truths Are LIES & Much More..."
(Also good information on how Romney AVOIDED military sevice - seems to be the kind of stuff Bush & Cheney have done = "Chickenhawks")
http://themoderatevoice.com/156078/romne...
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:54 p.m.
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I understand so the protests are just allowed when one side does it...?
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:07 p.m.
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wislady,
"""Now, to answer your question…….YES – if it was a Democrat who was speaking and far right idiots couldn’t follow the rules of the function then they should be asked to leave as well. If they failed to comply, they should be arrested. See, people who TRULY want to exact change operate within the rules as to not invalidate themselves. Fringe idiots want to make headlines for being fringe idiots. See the difference?"""
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar...
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-2...
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/0...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e3rSlElX...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yliMFYBj0...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4G9RGxah...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjF4YjvJL...
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DO YOU REALLY???
Aug 19, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
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Ryan is said to be one of the smartest guys on Capitol Hill.He is a policy whiz. Many things he has done are in the Saturday edition of the Wall Street Journal. What is Obama afraid of?
Aug 19, 2012 at 1:55 p.m.
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yada
Where you there?
Aug 19, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
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yada....
Paul Ryan did not order anyone to be arrested...quit lying.
I will believe one of the comments from someone who was there. (per your link)
"It wasn’t a Democrat or Republican “who had anyone arrested”. You see, that’s a nice talking point but, unfortunately, it has no truth whatsoever. Did Paul Ryan tell the police to arrest anyone? No, he didn’t. Try again. Once again, and follow this very closely….the instructions were to hold questions for Mr. Ryan until the end of the event. Once the speech was complete, he would take the audience’s questions. These idiots (yes, I-D-I-O-T-S) had no interest in having a question answered, they just wanted to make a scene so that the video would go viral. If they truly wanted the question(s) answered, why not wait until the end? Regardless, they stood up and shouted and were asked to leave because they VIOLATED THE RULES of the function. They refused to comply with an officers request, and were arrested.
Now, to answer your question…….YES – if it was a Democrat who was speaking and far right idiots couldn’t follow the rules of the function then they should be asked to leave as well. If they failed to comply, they should be arrested. See, people who TRULY want to exact change operate within the rules as to not invalidate themselves. Fringe idiots want to make headlines for being fringe idiots. See the difference?"
Secondly.........why do you keep referring to events from 2011?
The year is different (now 2012), and the plan proposed by Romney/Ryan is different.
Aug 19, 2012 at 1:37 p.m.
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Paul Ryan iss UNABLE to handle the pressure of questions from people and I would be scared to see him be the #2 in the U.S. I have seen it first hand at his so called meetings. At one of the meetings -- he had FIVE people KICKED OUT & 3 ARRESTED! I was at Klemmers (its more of a banquet hall than restaurant)and was shocked. We had paid to attend and most of the questions were in good taste that could have been easily answered. Paul REFUSED to take any questions - I would say more than a dozen people got up and walked out on him. Probably the same amount asked questions and left. There were a few arrests from this group. Great leadership should not refuse to hear the voice of others, especially the many questions that were asked in good taste. Same stuff at his Townhall meetings.
http://www.politicususa.com/paul-ryan-to...
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/249526...
Aug 19, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
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oflamer don't mess with mythology or you may get the horn..
Aug 19, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
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The biggest laugher was the interview with the high school teacher who just happens to remember a very specific political conversation he had with Paul Ryan. Ryan, I high school student who just lost his father while politics were the furthest from his mind at that time I'm sure.
I think the High School teacher was enjoying his 15 seconds of fame.
What a great guy just trying to make a difference without hurting all the people the left say will be hurt - but end up getting hurt by the left themselves and their God awful big government nanny rules.
Aug 19, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
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Oblabber, been seeing Dr. Heiter again?
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
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None of the people running for ANY office has addressed the underlying problems facing our country and this world. It will not change until all media quits dropping the ball. This will not happen because of who controls what we all see and hear. If you don't agree here is a prediction: 4 years from now the same morons will be on here spouting that their (R) is better than your (D) and vise versa. I got an idea, go to the FREE library and EDUCATE yourself. Today information derived from the present media is atrocious as can be proven simply by reading what YOU people write. Tragic.
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
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petofthegods if you want ryan, assuming all govt, to stay out of your mentioned area, why do you want the same govt to pay for things for your same mentioned area?
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
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" According to Ryan this makes me a lower class citizen below the males in the world. He wants to take away my right to have birth control "
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More rhetoric yet no proof for these wild claims.....
Aug 19, 2012 at 10 a.m.
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Aug 19, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
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Don't forget he IGNORED the recommendations from his own presidential commission formed to offer solutions for securing our nations fiscal issues.
Aug 19, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
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WHAT HAS RYAN DONE?
Aug 19, 2012 at 9:41 a.m.
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pharm I looked at your link, the first point of 194, stated "He Returned The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility After the Bush Debacle"
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Are you serious with this? Under his leadership the national debt has eclipsed the size of the national GDP, seen the rating for our nations debt drop, and been without a national budget for over three years. How on earth are you, through this link, claiming this has been successful?
Aug 19, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
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http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main...
What has Obama done?
Aug 19, 2012 at 7:20 a.m.
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nugnrose thanks for confirming my point. Instead of defending your choice's record you would rather talk about the second seat of the opposing ticket. So is that the best strategy the hope and change gang can do? Completely ignore what has happened and just play fear and rhetoric on top of false information....the party of deflection at their best.
Aug 19, 2012 at 7 a.m.
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RAF - "I love how the obama crowd fights for his re-election. They have done ZERO to show what obama has done right for this country and all they have left is play campaign discipleship by peddling rhetorical lies."
Insert Ryan for Obama and you have a factual statement about Paul Ryan.
Aug 19, 2012 at 6:57 a.m.
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Oh Carlitosway go back to bed! You got up on the wrong side again!
Aug 19, 2012 at 3:46 a.m.
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I love how the obama crowd fights for his re-election. They have done ZERO to show what obama has done right for this country and all they have left is play campaign discipleship by peddling rhetorical lies.
Aug 19, 2012 at 12:30 a.m.
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Who cares? The ones that have nothing to lose!!!! The teachers, the senior citizens, the children that will be uneducated, the public workers who are nothing to these type of people,the ones without health care, the ones that go unfed, the women that care about their rights Those are the ones that don't care about Romney and Ryan. To most of America these two will destroy America and because he is a home town boy He is made to be something he never was and never will be. He is against the ones who matter and those that know the truth could care less about Ryan and the likes of him. As Romney and Ryan have no clue to the meaning of truth..... Obama/Biden 2012
Aug 18, 2012 at 11:57 p.m.
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NVgrf, Have you even taken the time to read Ryan's Path to Prosperity 2013 Budget Plan?? Here's a link to it so you can actually have an informed opinion, and come across as someone who actually knows what they are talking about!
http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/pa...
With the statements you have continued to make this past week, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And yes, I have taken the time to read it and it's a very well thought out plan that would benefit ALL of us, not just the 1% you continue to claim that would benefit. Until you've actually read it, do us all a favor and keep your personal thoughts and opinions to yourself, there's no room for misinformation and your obvious biased left wing agenda here.
Aug 18, 2012 at 11:05 p.m.
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We had almost two years of "union rights", protesting, and recalls. Now it is time to give coverage to something that has an impact on the national scale...a VP candidate from Janesville.
Don't worry, protesters will still get their press coverage. People like Nichols and Segway Boy, will make sure of that.
Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 p.m.
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day 7, RYANS GAZETTE, continues to bang the drum, to secure votes.
Aug 18, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
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NVgrf: Go pick on your buddy Reid!. Good grief.
Aug 18, 2012 at 8:08 p.m.
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I wonder how many of Ryans groupies are aware of his anti-middle class, anti-poor, pro-1% policy proposals? Maybe they don't really care as long as they know Paulie.
Aug 18, 2012 at 8:08 p.m.
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I wonder how many of Ryans groupies are aware of his anti-middle class, anti-poor, pro-1% policy proposals? Maybe they don't really care as long as they know Paulie.
Aug 18, 2012 at 6:24 p.m.
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What the heck is "forming cream"?
You can't beat a good pair of two dollar shoes. I usually get my dad's old ones...
I'm just sayin'...
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