Blackhawk Technical College might add pepper spray to weapons ban

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Friday, Sept. 23, 2011
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— As Blackhawk Technical College works to produce a policy that complies with Wisconsin’s new concealed-carry law, it has added a twist that the law doesn’t address: pepper spray.

The BTC Board took a look at a policy proposal Wednesday that would ban from BTC buildings all explosives, swords, bows and arrows, tasers, batons and O.C. (pepper) spray.

Several female BTC students questioned Thursday were split on the question, although all agreed the main campus between Janesville and Beloit is generally safe.

“I wouldn’t want to carry it. I feel perfectly safe here,” said Vicki Ball of Clinton, who is studying legal administration. “I can’t think of any situation where I would need it.”

“At night, they have the Safe Walk program, so someone can walk you to your car,” said Jennifer Nevestich of Milton, who is studying criminal justice.

The Safe Walk program uses volunteers who are studying criminal justice.

Criminal justice student Nicole Cola of Milton said she’d like to be able to carry pepper spray.

Cola is aware of Safe Walk, but “they’re never really around” when she gets done with classes at 9 p.m., she said.

Mae Brown of Beloit said some areas of the parking lot are dark, so she’d like the option of carrying the spray.

“I think it’s a personal choice that no one should be denied,” said Brown, who is studying early-childhood education.

“I’d rather carry pepper spray than a concealed gun,” Brown added.

Renea Ranguette, BTC vice president for finance and operations, expressed surprise that Safe Walk officers might not be available. She said the service should be available until 10 p.m., when the campus shuts down. She said she would look into the matter.

Students can get an escort by going to the reception desk until 9 p.m. or by calling a phone number, Ranguette said.

Safe Walk is “much safer than carrying pepper spray,” Ranguette said, but the issue of pepper spray is one of several in the policy that the administration is considering revising.

A completed weapons policy could be approved at the board’s meeting Wednesday, Oct. 26, Ranguette said.

Ranguette wasn’t sure where the pepper spray idea came from, but she said that because the campus has not had a weapons policy, officials wanted to cover the issue more broadly than what is addressed in the concealed-carry law. The law goes into effect Nov. 1.

Current law bans firearms from college campuses. The new law allows weapons in campus buildings unless the college bans weapons and posts signs at all building entrances. BTC will likely post signs at its buildings, said BTC President Tom Eckert.

Eckert thought the cost of signs would be “negligible.”

Weapons can’t be banned from parking lots, however, so students for the first time will be able to keep weapons in their cars. BTC is considering a policy that would cover the question of whether weapons should be visible in cars, Eckert said.

BTC’s proposed policy includes an exemption for weapons carried by law enforcement or used in classes. The campus has an indoor firearms range. It also recently announced it will offer classes to help people earn the license needed for concealed carry.

UW-Rock County in Janesville, meanwhile, has not yet set its policy. Spokeswoman Carrie Hermanson noted that the Janesville Academy for International Studies, a Janesville charter school, moved to the campus this year. The new law retains a ban on weapons within 1,000 feet of kindergarten-through-12th-grade schools, so UW-Rock might be covered by that, Hermanson said.

UW System spokesman David Giroux said the heads of all UW campuses have indicated they will post signs to ban weapons from their buildings. Giroux had not heard any talk about pepper spray.

Giroux noted that Nov. 1 is the earliest anyone could even apply for a concealed carry permit. A campus could enact a gun ban in its buildings at any time after Nov. 1, he said.

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Esteban
Oct 3, 2011 at 10:06 p.m.
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Nationally FBI statistics report that 1 in 5 women in college will be raped or will be a victim of attempted rape.

Taking away their pepper spray is simply abominable.

Every woman's pain from a sexual assault is on your bureaucrats hands. You can empower and trust your students or live with their victimization.

vatoloco
Sep 27, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.
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Individual power is a such a threat to some people.

BunBun
Sep 27, 2011 at 7:09 p.m.
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"and all other instruments capable of inflicting serious injury." -- Gazette reporter Frank Schultz----
the problem with that is that almost ANYTHING is capable of inflicting serious injury if applied correctly.
so, no glass bottles, pens, key rings, and forget any tools in any of the manufacturing/repair trade programs.

rldavis1613
Sep 27, 2011 at 5:27 p.m.
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Pepper spray should not be banned. Tazers are already covered by Wisconsin law. Pepper spray should be allowed. I would not restrict that from any person feeling the need to carry that for protection.

fschultz
Sep 27, 2011 at 4:38 p.m.
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Sorry, BunBun, but there's the usual catch-all phrase in the policy, something like "and all other instruments capable of inflicting serious injury." -- Gazette reporter Frank Schultz

BunBun
Sep 27, 2011 at 6:25 a.m.
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Ha, major loophole - if I were still going there I'd carry a halberd, pike,or a war hammer (or tow along a trebuchet for the parking lot). I'd have fun stretching this out till the list of proscribed items gets to be several pages long.

fromjanesville2waukesha
Sep 27, 2011 at 3:23 a.m.
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How many incidents are there in the indoor firing range? That's how many incidents would happen if the students were "allowed" to concealed carry.

MooShoo
Sep 26, 2011 at 9:12 p.m.
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It's nonlethal, let the young women carry it. There is criminal penalty and civil legal recourse it is used inappropriately.

towhaul
Sep 26, 2011 at 4:20 p.m.
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I attend Blackhawk and I would say allow pepper spray. Safety is more important than being politically correct!What's wrong with pepper spray? Nothing! The only people getting hurt here are future victims, the criminals will LOVE this news! Defending yourself should NOT ever be a crime period!

partarican1
Sep 25, 2011 at 9:24 a.m.
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IMO- I don't believe this is an attempt by the academic elite trying to make something out of nothing....I believe the administrators are being pressured by the Republican majority who privately fund the schools who say "if we can't have a gun, then they shouldn't be able to have their pepper spray", and this is their feeble attempt at a compromise. I hope it never happens....some people are unable to defend themselves, and this would make it that much harder to do so....

RustyRotor
Sep 24, 2011 at 8:49 a.m.
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The academic elite trying to make something out of nothing! A mountain out of a mole hill! A non-lethel, give me a break.
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Young men also need the ability to protect themselves, not just young girls.
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Now the gang bangers will know where to find a weapon, the school parking lot!

totellthetruth
Sep 24, 2011 at 7:40 a.m.
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The first female that gets assaulted and didnt have the opportunity to carry pepper spray will be able to win millions... Stupid idea, sure no guns, but lets the young girls protect themselves if they need it!

chelleandlou
Sep 24, 2011 at 2:14 a.m.
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I think there's a big difference between weapons which can cause injury/death and pepper spray. The majority of people are not going to have pepper spray anyway and it should be noted that in order to discharge pepper spray there must be a threat of immediate harm. Maybe before going off half-cocked there should be a poll done of all students and staff as to whether its a concern or problem. Jumping the gun and doing a "one size fits all" policy proves time and time again there are exceptions to EVERY rule and these types of policies epically fail.

truecitizen
Sep 23, 2011 at 11:45 p.m.
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I wonder how many thousands of dollars were spent, employment and other, which was or were needed to discuss this topic?

truecitizen
Sep 23, 2011 at 11:42 p.m.
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What about focusing on posituve things at BTC? Seems kind of like an unimportant topic (OC spray anyway).

If you are a male student, I guess you have to use your fists. Why is it neccessary to ban the O.C. spray? Did I miss this? Just more micromanaging to justify an overwhelming board perhaps? Lets stick to focus on things that matter. I cannot recall a single incident at BTC involving negligent use of it. What's next...

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