Walker administration hiding benefits to health care reform
The Walker administration recently released a report at a closed “by-invitation only” media briefing purporting to show that the new national health care reform law would negatively affect Wisconsin’s health insurance market. I attempted to attend the briefing but was forced to leave. Reporters were told the briefing was “off the record” and couldn’t use recording devices or quote the speakers. The study author, health care economist Dr. Jonathan Gruber of MIT, wasn’t invited.
In addition to the oddly secretive release, Walker’s administration attempted to bury many of the most important report findings to create a negative impression of the Affordable Care Act. The most significant finding in Gruber’s report is that the new law will result in 340,000 uninsured Wisconsinites gaining coverage. However, this information isn’t even mentioned in the Walker administration’s press release about the report.
The administration also gave a slanted account of the impact of reform on Wisconsin individual and small group health insurance markets, focusing entirely on premium increases that will impact some participants. They didn’t highlight report findings that showed substantial premium reductions for Wisconsinites who pay the highest rates currently. Instead, they focused attention on those who would pay more in the short term because health reform forces the insurance industry to end discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, age and gender, and requires higher quality coverage.
Currently, individuals and small groups that are younger and healthier get lower rates because insurers discriminate against others and often sell substandard policies. Insurers can deny coverage, charge discriminatory rates or impose exclusionary riders for policyholders with pre-existing conditions. Over 1 million Wisconsinites younger than 65 have pre-existing conditions serious enough to trigger such discrimination. Ending this discrimination will cause some individuals who are fortunate enough to get low premiums in the current system to pay higher premiums in the short term, but in return they’ll be guaranteed higher quality coverage, which the insurance industry can never take away as they age and face medical conditions.
The only permanent “losers” in ending health insurance discrimination are the insurers who profit by offering affordable coverage only to people whom they deem less likely to file medical claims. Those fortunate enough to be young and healthy might get good deals from the health insurance industry, but they can lose coverage or be priced out as they age or if they face medical conditions. If a small employer has affordable coverage today, one employee suffering a serious medical condition can price the whole group out of the market.
Once the Affordable Care Act is fully implemented, consumers will have a right to buy affordable coverage in a new marketplace where insurers cannot take it away or charge discriminatory rates as someone ages or the person’s health status changes.
The way the Walker administration handled the release of this important report raises questions about how Wisconsin will implement national health care reform. Wisconsin residents must watch closely this fall when the Legislature is expected to take up this crucial issue.
Robert Kraig is executive director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin, 221 S. 2nd St., Suite 300S, Milwaukee, WI 53204; phone (414) 671-9760; email robert.kraig@citizenactionwi.org; website www.citizenactionwi.org.


Sep 12, 2011 at 7:41 p.m.
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I personally can't wait for this.I'm going to cancel my insurance.I will buy it online on my way to the hospital.i've been a responsible citizen and have never NOT had insurance.I have gone without alot of things (cable,fancy car).I think it is funny how people will buy a $40,000 vehicle and put full coverage on it but won't insure their health.They real problem is not politics and policies but taken responsiblity for ourselves.
Sep 12, 2011 at 7:13 p.m.
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Question: Doesn't this concern the people that support Walker? If not, why?
This man is supposed to be an elective representative of ALL the people. Not a few chosen, not the wealthy but all of the people of WI.
We should all be very frightened if this is going to be the new norm for politics in Wisconsin. Paul Ryan is doing the same thing by making people pay to get into some of his meetings.
Sep 12, 2011 at 3:42 p.m.
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Miltonlib - My question is directed towards you. I have no problem with national healthcare but please answer why is it after Obama and his clan forced his Healthcare Reform on all of americans, did congress who by the way was controlled by the Democrats hold a vote to keep the same healthcare plan they currently had????? Oh, if you didn't know what they already had, let me enlighten you! 100% paid, no premiums, no deductibles, no co-pays, no prescription costs and this is for life or the life of their spouse. Great slogan from the Democrats, "We don't want it but you're going to love it"! Pretty much whether you like it or not! I'm not saying I back Scott Walker on everything he has done but by attacking Walker for healthcare and not Obama are the words of a HYPOCRIT! If you are not willing to look at both parties for what they are (A JOKE) then you are the problem! By the way Miltonlib, my healthcare at work doubled because of Obamacare and I'm in the middle class, so why is it the Democrats attacked the middle class with their healthcare when they should have been worrying about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs? Oh, and did I forget to say he waited until his third year to worry about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs? Can you say worried about election year? Same politics, just the democrats this time!
When will American's wake up to the fact that both parties are a joke and are equally responsible for the mess this entire country is in?????? The finger pointing can go on for years because both parties suck equally!
Sep 10, 2011 at 4:28 a.m.
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Regarding the "I smell a rat" comment - I would agree. It is probably because some of the big pro Walker insurance co. will be hurt by this. ching ching
Sep 10, 2011 at 3:49 a.m.
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fearandrhetoric4dummies, God bless you! I have my opinions, and often I end up on the losing side of a debate, simply because I don't have the words to defend my position, which, in turn, appears to be opinion only with no facts to back them. I have on more than one occasion, wanted to reach through the computer and scream, WHAT?! at/to IRISS...(that's not the only one; however, this poster seems to be lacking a reality that most of the rest of us live in)
Sep 9, 2011 at 11:57 p.m.
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I would like to point out that the user Iriss , copies and pastes "its" rhetorical garbage on every single post.
With almost NEVER any factual information in its posts , I would please urge all of you to continue to call this unintelligent person out , every single chance you get.
While IRISS likes to encourage ignoring posters "it" disagrees with , I would encourage you all to continue vigorous debate with all and any posters on these sites. Even the most silly and unitelligent. While there are some very intelligent folks I disagree with on here constantly and vigorously, I respect MOST of you and enjoy the opinions.
Iriss if you really want people to just agree with your ridiculous ideas and cant handle the challenge of REAL and VIGOROUS debate, I suggest that you start your own blog, and get out of here because you rarely if ever bring anything to the discussion.
Unlike Iriss, this will be the first and only time I ever am childish enough to copy and paste a post to every thread. But it was time someone called this embicile to the table.
Sep 9, 2011 at 11:47 p.m.
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Wis lady is only able to copy and paste right wing rhetoric! Shocking!! Peter Sudermen? Even you can do better than that!!
I love the comment " the Health care reform will ruin health care in America", PSSSSST its been ruined for decades! The USA spends more than double per capita and is lower in almost every single statistic than the nations that have a national system! How can that be?
I am no fan of the HCR, because it is a huge giveaway to insurance companies. BUT anything is better than the system that allows middle class families that pay for their insurance premiums to go bankrupt! In that case dont pay and just run up bills and file chapter 11. We ive in a nation where the NUMBER 1 cause of personal bankruptcy is HEALTH CARE!! Now that is a country to be proud of! You people are a bunch of turkeys.
Sep 9, 2011 at 10:13 p.m.
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The most interesting part of this story....Doyle hired this study to be done.
Whoops! ObamaCare Backers in Wisconsin Produce Report Showing That the Health Care Overhaul Will Make Health Insurance More Expensive
Peter Suderman | September 6, 2011
When Wisconsin’s Department of Health Services, which manages health programs within the state, wanted to get a better sense of how last year’s health care overhaul would affect insurance coverage within the state, they turned to Jonathan Gruber, a health policy expert at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who served as a consultant on both Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts health care overhaul and (somewhat controversially) President Obama’s nationwide successor program.
Gruber! (Hans)Gruber is a frequent defender of ObamaCare as well as one of its architects. And the report was ordered under Wisconsin’s departed Democratic Governor Jim Doyle, who, after leaving the governor's office, signed on to an ObamaCare agitprop mill dedicated to highlighting “the stories of the millions of Americans who are already benefiting from this important law and how it will benefit millions more in the coming years.” So it's not exactly a hit job.
The report Doyle ordered before leaving office certainly reveals something about how the law will affect hundreds of thousands of individuals in the state he used to govern, it's not all flattering. Indeed, it’s telling that despite bring ordered and authored by true-blue ObamaCare backers, a big part of what this report suggests is that the law will ultimately raise the health insurance costs for large numbers of the state’s residents.
that the law is expected to increase health insurance coverage; approximately 340,000 of the state’s residents are expected to gain insurance coverage by 2016. Of course, about 170,000 of the newly covered will be shuffled into Medicaid, a program that’s wrecking state budgets and providing, at best, uncertain health benefits.
Meanwhile expanding the state’s health insurance coverage will come at a significant cost to hundreds of thousands of individuals, especially within the individual market, where the law has the greatest effect. Gruber projects that the average individual market health insurance premium will cost about 30 percent more than if ObamaCare had never passed. For most individual market enrollees, the average premium increase will be even higher: 87 percent of the individual market is projected to see a premium price increase of 41 percent.
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http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/06/whoops...
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:46 p.m.
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concernedperson
Why would anyone place any credibility in a story written by someone who didn't attend the meeting?
Sep 9, 2011 at 8:20 p.m.
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916WI: What does the last paragraph of this article tell you? Anthing? Maybe or maybe not.
Sep 9, 2011 at 8:13 p.m.
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Miltonlib: That's exactly how I see it. But you will not find many on this forum agreeing with you. Those who have it made do not want to give anything up and they certainly do not want to share with anyone. It's called greed. And when you have it, it seems you just want more and more. The greed never ends.
Sep 9, 2011 at 6:50 p.m.
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I love this country, but conservatism has gone overboard. Why don't we want national healthcare? Because then the poor people get it too, right? As conservatives, why would you want to have to sit next to a poor person in the waiting room at the doctor's office?! Of course, as a conservative, you wouldn't. Our country spends way more, in percent of GDP, than Canada does on healthcare. We have 50 million people without healthcare, roughly. All Canadians are covered. They do not want that taken away from them ever. They would pay higher taxes to keep it if it were threatened. They live, on average, 6 years longer than Americans. I would imagine all of you Republican/Teabaggers on here must be extremely wealthy business owners, because otherwise it would make no sense to have your beliefs. So, wouldn't a national healthcare system like Canada's be a good thing? You wouldn't have to worry about your employee's insurance premiums, right? Barack Obama would be a conservative in Canada. His whole time in office has been trying to find a compromise with the Republicans. He's done way too much of it, but he's trying to get along. Hey, he's a Democrat. He's a nice guy. But I wish one of you- Iriss, RAF, wislady, totellthetruth, grandys, noleftist, dkush- would just admit on this forum that Obama's skin is just to dark for you. Oh yeah, and where's that birth certificate?!!!! Jackasses. Have a great weekend everybody!
Sep 9, 2011 at 6:40 p.m.
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ms sassy........You're confused. This has absolutely nothing to do with any legislation that Walker has passed. It is simply a report on how the implementation of Obama's HCR will affect Wisconsin. The author of the opinion piece blew the importance of the report out of proportion because he felt slighted that he was not invited to the release.......With any luck Obama's HCR and the massive expense it entails will be brought to an end by our court system......
Sep 9, 2011 at 6:27 p.m.
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Iriss: "Well, I grew up with Scott Walker, and his faith is uncompromising and steadfast, and I know this for a fact. His father is a man of the cloth and a truly devout Christian as well." So what? If someone says that the world is 6,000 years old, they are ignorant. Iriss, I'm sure Scott Walker's campaign, his father's or someone else's church, and Goldline have taken plenty of your money by now. Get a clue and tighten up your purse strings just like Scott Walker has tightened them up on the middle class families and children of Wisconsin.
Sep 9, 2011 at 5:49 p.m.
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people are concerned about folks who are informing the public of not having read the bill. Yet, the bill is being kept a "secret". Can someone (who has a brain) please explain how this is democracy? If the Governor (who I will assert is NO MAN OF GOD) handles all of his bills in secret and doesn't allow the general public, advocacy groups or anyone who he thinks might object to it to even become aware of its contents, he has NO business running our State.
Sep 9, 2011 at 2:19 p.m.
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yada
And the screaming, horn blowing, drum pounding protesters that have been attempting to shut down free speech since February.....what about them?
Sep 9, 2011 at 2:10 p.m.
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Regarding the TEA PARTY - Hard to believe anyone would want to be part of a racist group like that.
Sep 9, 2011 at 2:07 p.m.
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IRISS---> You want to dish it out to others, but you can't take it. Go tell your governor Walker and maybe he will send the State Patrol or National Guard to further stop the freedom of speech for MOUSE and others. SHAME on IRIS.
Sep 9, 2011 at 2:01 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Limbaugh.
Sep 9, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.
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concernedperson Your quote, "But, like other Tea Party and Repubs. in politics, the complete story is never told. Some of the most important facts are left out." wins for most laughable quote of the day. Congrats! You are seriously going to limit this to the tea party and the Republicans? So you're saying that Obama and the Democrats have been the definition of transparency? Too funny......Obama's HCR alone would qualify him as far as "the facts being left out" champion...........Keep up the good work though!
Sep 9, 2011 at 1:49 p.m.
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NoLabels.org - Not Left. Not Right. Forward.
Sep 9, 2011 at 1:27 p.m.
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I wish for once in his life our governor would be honest with the citizens of Wisconsin. But, like other Tea Party and Repubs. in politics, the complete story is never told. Some of the most important facts are left out.
Sep 9, 2011 at 1:25 p.m.
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Iriss: You are the one I won't listen to because of some of the absurd postings you have made on here many times. Everything you have heard or read is not a lie.
Sep 9, 2011 at 12:41 p.m.
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Poor robert, your partisan org is not media and was not invited....sniff sniff sniff
Sep 9, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.
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Funny how the author R. Kraig attended a so-called "secret meeting" and now he is able to bash Governor Walker on the contents of said meeting all the while, knowing full well that no one will be able to dispute his facts about the meeting because it was "secret". How do these jokers get paid?
Sep 9, 2011 at 10:58 a.m.
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Yep! Why all the secrecy? I smell a rat!
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:52 a.m.
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and a secret meeting with only the chosen few getting to listen...sounds like Walker thinks he is Jesus Christ, but the thing is: JC wanted to spread his message to everyone...perhaps Walker is ashamed of it himself and doesn't want to go on record as having said "this" or "that". I don't trust him. Never will trust a thing he does or says again. I don't care if his dad is a pastor. Pastors have kids that end up in hell, too.
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:43 a.m.
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Calling someone out for ad hominem attacks as part of an ad hominem attack without addressing the substance of the material at all. The irony is so delicous!
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:17 a.m.
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Now what kind of a governor would do such a thing? Shame, Shame on the governor.
Sep 8, 2011 at 10:12 p.m.
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"consumers will have a right to buy affordable coverage..."
no, consumers will be MANDATED to buy coverage. Its going to be a shock to those who thought they were going to get something for free who will find out too late what the true cost will be. Funny how the same folks who are aghast at the concept of the Feds listening in if you happen to phone Pakistan are all too willing to hand your health care over to the same bunch...
Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 p.m.
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What a deceptive headline, shame on you Mr. Kraig.
Robert Kraig is executive director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin
aka....
a George Soros funded organization
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