Change proposed for Janesville sign ordinance

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Thursday, Sept. 8, 2011
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— The Janesville City Council on Monday will consider allowing signs—including electronic message signs—in residential areas.

The proposed change would require signs to be at least 500 feet from residences and to face the adjoining street.

Signs would need conditional-use permits from the plan commission, with the exception of churches. The plan commission makes individual decisions based on the merits of each request, said Vicky Miller of the city’s community development department.

A public hearing is scheduled at Monday’s meeting.

The proposal is the result of a request from Rotary Botanical Gardens, 1455 Palmer Drive, which wants to install a monument-style electronic message center.

Under the current ordinance, no entity in an “E” sign district—which includes Rotary Gardens—is allowed to petition for a sign.

The current ordinance divides the city into five sign areas. All entities in areas other than “E” are allowed to petition for signs. Areas allowed to petition for signs are along Interstate 39/90 and business corridors, in the downtown, or are zoned for business, office and industry.

Entities in the rest of the city cannot apply to install signs. Those areas include lands zoned residential and conservancy and include parks, greenbelts, golf courses and open space.

Churches do not need conditional-user permits to install signs wherever they are located.

If the change is approved, examples of entities that could ask for conditional-use permits include the Youth Sports Complex and Parker High School. Parker High School would be eligible only until a home is built across the street.

The plan commission and staff recommend the change.

City Manager Eric Levitt also supports the change.

He said the 500-foot minimum distance would protect residents but allow Rotary Gardens and others to install signs.

ON THE AGENDA

The Janesville City Council will meet at 7 p.m. Monday in City Hall, 18 N. Jackson St. An informal listening session with council members is scheduled at 6 p.m.

Items on the agenda include a request by the owners of One Parker Place to buy the vacant lot at the corner of Court Street and Parker Drive for $1 so they can build a private parking lot with about 45 spaces to serve their building across the street. Terry Donaldson, Norm Weitzel and Fred Fox recently tore down a building next to the city lot, opening up space to the west. The council will discuss various options on Monday. City Manager Eric Levitt said the city might need the parking in the future when the parking deck over the river must be removed. He said one option is to partner with the men. The city owes about $35,000 for the land to repay federal block grants. The city could pay that amount and the men could build parking to result in a combination of private and public parking, Levitt said.

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wader8
Aug 20, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.
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Hmmm...let me see...currently a baron landscape property not generating any property tax revenue, no jobs, and not asthetically pleasing. Alternative - support an entreprenerial business idea and investment which will result in jobs, property tax revenue, and a new building with thriving businesses which will need customer parking. If this is a tough decision for you, then I'm sorry you have bigger troubles.

BBB
Sep 9, 2011 at 4:33 p.m.
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Electronic signs should not be allowed in residential areas, but I bet they will let them.

frogger
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:02 a.m.
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"Those 45 spaces will go a long way to relieving the terrible shortage of parking downtown. Why, a month or two back I was only able to count 250 empty spaces within two blocks of One Parker Place at 2pm on a weekday! It's an urgent crisis indeed."

Shortage- the ONLY time I saw a shortage is when thousands of people attended rock around the block. People cannot handle walking a couple blocks. Even been to Chicago where it is a couple blocks just to get OUT of the parking garage??? To bad if you cannot park in front of the building. If you park in the ramp the WHOLE downtown is within walking distance. Park there and walk- you may lose a few LBs. I am so tired of hearing there is no place to park. If you go to the big box store or the mall I don't hear you complain when you have to park in the back 40. Same distance as down town if you have to park two stores down. Lazy Janesville. Maybe the entitlement they should just bring the product to your door for free so you don't need to get your lazy arse of the couch???!!!

nicksmom
Sep 9, 2011 at 9:02 a.m.
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Oh how I love the restrictive covenants of my snooty neighborhood association.

tikiman1
Sep 9, 2011 at 6:25 a.m.
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Churches should not be exempt from the laws. Nobody in their right mind wants a bright, ugly sign blasting light into their house windows at night.

I'm talking to you St. Williams!!!!

oldvet
Sep 9, 2011 at 5:46 a.m.
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Signs are ugly. As a frequent visitor to Europe, I wish everyone could see, as I have what beautiful countrysides and even cities look like without ugly large, blaring billboards spoiling the view.

janesvillean
Sep 9, 2011 at 1:15 a.m.
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Those 45 spaces will go a long way to relieving the terrible shortage of parking downtown. Why, a month or two back I was only able to count 250 empty spaces within two blocks of One Parker Place at 2pm on a weekday! It's an urgent crisis indeed.
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As to the river ramp, the city is under the assumption that it is past its lifetime (concrete generally has a lifetime of about 50 years, and this is pushing 60 and counting) and will eventually deteriorate beyond repair, at which time they have a concern that the state DNR might not allow it to be replaced.
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Ideally, by the time that happens, Janesville will be moving back toward sustainability with more options for public transportation downtown and less need for all those wasteful parking spaces. Sprawl on the outskirts is bad enough, but when you have sprawl downtown it really does impact how efficient the urban core can be.

youkillme
Sep 8, 2011 at 9:58 p.m.
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I think these are the same Tea Party carnival barkers that irresponsibly tore down a historic building because it was included in the proposed overlay district and also claimed they were promised parking spots from the former city manager? It only figures the people who bash goverment now want to freeload on my dime. The city owes $35,000 on the land to repay block grants. Now these rubes offer a $1 for land that taxpayers will be stuck paying for? Call your favorite council member and tell them "no way!"

Autoworker2
Sep 8, 2011 at 8:56 p.m.
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Those red, digital signs are the devil! I live next to a church that plays messages 24 hours a day on one of those digital things. We had to buy both blinds and special light blocking curtains to try to cut down that bright, shining, flickering, never-ending light. It is the most horrible, annoying thing invented. I pray the City will not allow those digital signs into residential areas. I would not wish on anyone what we have gone through since that thing turned on.

kawisixer01
Sep 8, 2011 at 8:11 p.m.
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They own the land they tore down the building on. They want to purchase the empty lot next door to that land from the city. At least thats whats I get from the sentance "Terry Donaldson, Norm Weitzel and Fred Fox recently tore down a building next to the city lot, opening up space to the west."

frogger
Sep 8, 2011 at 7:23 p.m.
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I thought "the men" owned the land that they tore down the building to sell the land for parking.
Are they speaking about the parking over the bridge that they owe money on. Poorly written as usual.

frogger
Sep 8, 2011 at 7:19 p.m.
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"The proposed change would require signs to be at least 500 feet from residences and to face the adjoining street."

So what residencial area would be 500 feet from a house???? So a large park can have a sign? A house couldn't have a sign unless you owned the 3 lots around it.

gmaof3
Sep 8, 2011 at 7:04 p.m.
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Agreed, carlp... who ARE these people running the city? Did they pass first grade math? Wow...
What did I miss here?

carlp
Sep 8, 2011 at 6:54 p.m.
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"a request by the owners of One Parker Place to buy the vacant lot at the corner of Court Street and Parker Drive for $1"

"The city owes about $35,000 for the land to repay federal block grants."

So the city, and as a result the citizens of Janesville, should take a $35,000 loss on the property? How does this make sense? If they want the land let them pay $35,000 for it.

woodsman
Sep 8, 2011 at 5:09 p.m.
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Why would the parking deck over the rock have to go?????????????????????

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