County G access worries Blackhawk Technical College

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Tuesday, Nov. 1, 2011
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Benjamin J. Coopman

— Rock County is taking a close look at Blackhawk Technical College’s entrance on County G, also known as Prairie Road. The result could be changes at the intersection, maybe even a traffic light.

BTC officials asked the county for traffic lights after recent accidents, including a minivan being T-boned by a car Sept. 19.

Ben Coopman, county public works director, said the intersection where County G and the BTC parking lot meet is “a concern.”

“There’s a lot of things going on there, we believe, a lot of it related to traffic there on G and a lot related to the number of students there at the college, and both of them are going up,” Coopman said.

BTC has seen record enrollments in recent years.

Students and staff can find it difficult to turn onto County G because of oncoming traffic, and that leads to lines of cars in the lot, Coopman said.

The lines behind them could lead to drivers taking chances to get out of the lot, Coopman said.

The county is hiring a consultant to look at the issue, he said, but short-term fixes might help in the meantime.

Those fixes could include:

-- Lengthen and/or widen the southbound deceleration lane, which is both short and narrow.

-- Temporarily lower the speed limit, which now is 55 mph.

-- Add warning signs or a light that flashes certain times of the day.

-- Widen the bypass lane on the east side of G. That lane is narrow, and widening it could make it easier for northbound traffic to bypass northbound vehicles turning into BTC.

The consultant will count traffic at different times of the day to see whether a traffic-control device or a roundabout might be warranted, Coopman said.

The analysis could lead to the conclusion that nothing should be done, he said, or minor adjustments such as adding lanes could be recommended.

Coopman said the situation is complicated by the fact that the county is looking for federal aid to build a roundabout or install traffic lights at an intersection about two-thirds of a mile south, at County G and Townline Road. An engineer has already been selected for that project.

Four traffic accidents have occurred at the County G entrance since Jan. 1, said Cmdr. Troy Knudson of the Rock County Sheriff’s Office. People were injured in two of those accidents.

One of the injury accidents occurred at 11:25 a.m. Sept. 19, when a Lake Mills woman, 30, drove her minivan out from the lot to go north on G.

A southbound vehicle was turning right into BTC at the same time, but the woman might not have seen a southbound car behind the turning vehicle, one witness suggested to police.

The southbound car, driven by a 20-year-old Beloit woman, struck the turning van in the side. Both drivers were hospitalized.

Rock County maintains only one traffic signal. All the others in the county are on state or municipal roads, Coopman said. The lone county signal is south of BTC at County G and Inman Parkway.

Lights, poles and controls at the BTC entrance would cost between $60,000 and $70,000, Coopman estimated. Alterations to the road, including possibly a traffic island, and engineering fees could push costs close to $200,000, he said.

BTC President Tom Eckert told the BTC Board last week that the college does not have a concern about its other entrance on Highway 51, where the four-lane highway makes turning easier.

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Shopierehuh
Nov 2, 2011 at 5:26 p.m.
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"Coopman said the situation is complicated by the fact that the county is looking for federal aid to build a roundabout or install traffic lights at an intersection about two-thirds of a mile south, at County G and Townline Road. An engineer has already been selected for that project"

You must be reading a different article, Janesvillean, it appears that the intersection of County G and Townline Road is definitly being discussed. Reading is fundamental, Janesvillean. How dumb do you have to be to not comprehend what a newspaper article is about? Isn't that something a person of average intelligence can handle?

Shopierehuh
Nov 2, 2011 at 5:18 p.m.
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"Shopierehuh, a roundabout will in fact be less likely to cause backups, because it has higher capacity and no requirement to stop. Roundabouts are in fact better suited to higher speed routes for this very reason."

How big of a diameter roundabout do you think it will take to be able to run 55mph on? Get real, you know damn well they are not going to take up the real estate to make one that large of diameter to accomodate 55mph. If they did a roundabout it would be a ridiculous designer one similar to the Hart Road I43 area. That one is capable of 20-25 MPh at max. It is cute and pretty with flower beds and everything. It is a subject for desk bound engineers and desk bound urban planners to get themselves moist over with their genius thinking about how much of a genius they are. In practicality it is a joke.

Shopierehuh
Nov 2, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.
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Well janesvillean the all seeing all knowing entity from the 4th ward, why don't you tell us "How is this not something that a person of average intelligence can handle?"

Your condenscending know it all attitude is tiresome. You don't even know when you are full of....

68Olds98
Nov 2, 2011 at 4:46 p.m.
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Lowering the speed limit in that area would be the least expensive option. Then people would prefer the 55 mph, four-lane, Hwy 51 option which is only about a mile away.

RockEnvironmentalNetwork
Nov 2, 2011 at 2:40 p.m.
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How much would it cost to install a stop sign? 4 ways stop at the entrance to BTC. Install one, keep an eye on it for awhile, then look at other options. Makes sense to start with the simplest option first.....right?

janesvillean
Nov 2, 2011 at 2:15 p.m.
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The map is incorrect. The arrow points to County G and Townline Road, but the location being discussed is the east entrance to the Blackhawk campus, which is a T intersection. The G/Townline intersection is a SEPARATE request due to increased traffic volume.
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Shopierehuh, a roundabout will in fact be less likely to cause backups, because it has higher capacity and no requirement to stop. Roundabouts are in fact better suited to higher speed routes for this very reason.
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If you "get stuck going round and round" then you're pretty dumb. If there is a truck in the roundabout when you approach, meaning a vehicle needing to use the center apron, the law requires you to yield on entry. How is this not something that a person of average intelligence can handle?

minih0wie
Nov 2, 2011 at 12:49 p.m.
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If people can't handle turning left onto County G, then make them use the lower level exit and turn right onto Hwy 51. Both roads lead to the same place.
I'd say right turn only on the upper exit.
Just because a few people can't pay attention, the tax payers now must pay....and commuters are going to have frustrations with the delays a stop light would make.

Shopierehuh
Nov 2, 2011 at 12:34 p.m.
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Please, no roundabout at G and Townline. A stoplight will be fine, as it is a rough intersection to deal with, a hill, dump trucks, lots of traffic at times, people driving too slow, people driving too fast, people not using turn signals.

Roundabouts are foolish in a situation where at least one of the traffic flows is going 55 MPH. Or would they drop the speed limit to 35 or so and have two mile long strings of vehicles?

wtp
Nov 2, 2011 at 9:19 a.m.
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I live on G and in the past 25 yrs traffic has increased 20 fold in that time. More gravel trucks and more commute between Beloit and Janesville. Also more students using Blackhawk. In 2013 the interstate could be widened to 6 lanes. The word is that traffic will be deverted to county G as a by pass. So thus being said the state is looking into widening G to possible 4 lanes to handle this traffic. If this is true why are we spending this money now when all will be torn out in a couple of yrs.

janesvilleliving
Nov 2, 2011 at 8:31 a.m.
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I will have to say that I agree with the extention of the turning lanes on both sides of the road, but a round about with all of the cement trucks, garbage trucks, and semis that drive that road will be more of a hazzard. The people driving in cars aren't going to be able to see, or get stuck going round and round waiting for the big trucks to get out of the way.

I don't; however, agree on installing a stop light at that entrance because of the increased enrollment. We all know that a huge reason the enrollment was increased was because of everyone going back to school because of loosing their jobs. Now that the majority of the people have finished their two year program, or relocated, let's see if the enrollment continues the same, or drops off significantly. Lets give it a couple more years before we spend all of that money when we may not necessarily need to.

I wonder if the city, or a lot of businesses would continue making the changes they are making if their management would ask theirselves one question: Would I be making this change if I had to pay for it out of my pocket?

kangaroojack
Nov 2, 2011 at 2:56 a.m.
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How about people start LOOKING before pulling out. Also if you cant see because theres a car turning in, WAIT until you can see. Then again, its possible someone had their phone to their head trying to turn on Prairie.

jcbma
Nov 1, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.
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I have driven on prairie avenue everyday, twice a day for the last 10 years to get to work and I have never once gotten in an accident or seen an accident on that road. I know what putting 2 traffic lights on that road would do to my daily commute: Make me find another route. What a waste of tax dollars at a time when we can ill afford to waste them.

Zippy_TPH
Nov 1, 2011 at 7:15 p.m.
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Three roundabouts would do the trick! One would go left, another right, and the third one would have ways to get in, but not to get out.

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