Only helping you out, buddy. You said you didn't know what drivel meant. Sorry for trying to help you.

You accused someone of being "overzealous" and "holier-than-thou." You then proceeded to give them a Webster's definition of drivel. That, my friend, is more than a hypocrite. If you can't understand that, you are a lost cause.

StraightTalk said, "@poobah - You accuse someone of being a "holier-than-thou, overzealous conservative" and you need to really be clear for them, giving them a definition of "drivel." Nice. So, have you, you holier-than-thou, drivel spewing liberal ever looked up the definition of a HYPOCRITE? Wow! Look in the mirror!"
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You need to change your nickname to ConvolutedTalk. I am not religious, I am not holy, I do not pretend to be a Christian on Sunday's and greedy the rest of the week, I do not use religion to strip/deny rights to people, I do not read about "loving one another as you would want to be loved" and then supporting people who would strip them of hard-earned rights, income and benefits, I don't use religion to justify wars and killing, I think it's a ridiculous construction that someone who believes in God and believes he loves everyone that he could somehow bless America and not bless every other nation as well. Get the idea, ConvolutedTalk?

@poobah - You accuse someone of being a "holier-than-thou, overzealous conservative" and you need to really be clear for them, giving them a definition of "drivel." Nice. So, have you, you holier-than-thou, drivel spewing liberal ever looked up the definition of a HYPOCRITE? Wow! Look in the mirror!

I bet if someone would take Grandys job offers they would find that it would only pay minimum wage scale. Grandy is one of two types of a Republican. He was born on 3rd base and now thinks that he has hit a home run ( or inherited mucho money) or is just plain ignorant/gullible and it will be impossible to change his infantile mind no matter what type of Republican he is. Facts, Honesty, Truth and Fairness will never penetrate his intellect

Yes grandys...I could have solved that housing problem if I hadn't taken a 60% cut in pay for doing the same job I have done for 15 years. But according to you I should just be grateful I have a job, ignoring the fact that this "fair" company is completely taking advantage of the economy and me. They were so impressed with my credentials and experience and then they offerred me that. When I told them that on-line reaearch for my profession and my previous pay was 60% more than they were offering they said "We feel this is a fair wage". So yea, I'm starting a new job with an attitude and I will be looking for another from the get go. So I'll guess I'll be taking care of that problem.
It's really easy for you to say all problems can be solved...until they are your problems.

grandys618 said, "poohba: I am sorry to hear your life is drivel, whatever that is. I think you need a good dose of esteem."
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Sorry, I sometimes forget that when I'm speaking to a holier-than-thou, overzealous conservative I have to be really, really clear and not assume they can make even the smallest leap of logic.
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I meant that your previous posts were nothing but drivel. Hint: see definition 2 below.
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driv·el
   [driv-uhl] noun, verb, -eled, -el·ing or ( especially British ) -elled, -el·ling.
–noun
1.
saliva flowing from the mouth, or mucus from the nose; slaver.
2.
childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking; nonsense; twaddle.

All the protesting, hate, and name calling could have all been avoided, if it were not for the refusal to negoiate the collective bargaining issue. It is plain and simple that One persons desire to destroy public labor and eventually the private sector labor unions, is the cause for all hate that is being generated by both sides. Scott Walkers Budget Repair bill will not help the small businesses, but is geared toward makeing large corporations more wealthy. If you want to point the finger of blame, point it at Scott Walker. The sooner he is gone the better off the working middle class of Wisconsin will be. Small business owners know that the majority of their income comes from the middle class and to reduce the buying power of the middle class also reduces the income of the small business owners.

Nothing but more drivel.

grandys618 said, "...we are all Americans, and just need to start acting like we deserve to be one."
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What a bunch of mealy-mouthed, right-wing drivel. Citizenship is a birthright. If you are born here, you are an American citizen. You do not have to do another damn thing to "deserve" to be a citizen. You could commit heinous crime after heinous crime, never pay taxes, never work a day of your life, never vote and you would still be an American citizen. Don't you feel special now?
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Maybe you want to rethink your patriotic malarkey.

grandys618, onedayatatime only used one example of why it is difficult to move -- housing. Let me give you another that you conservatives don't consider -- health insurance. Many, many families and individuals simply can not move from one state to another because their insurance is not portable from state to state and pre-existing conditions, such as cancer, would prohibit them from getting insurance in the new state.
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Thankfully, Obama is fixing this within the next few years. But it is still a problem.
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And there is also a right of every citizen, if not a responsibility, to stay and try to change things that they feel are not right. As I said to another poster recently - a mother - she certainly would not leave her family and join another one because her child did something of which she didn't approve. She would work to correct the issue. This "move if you don't like it" is simply a petty and childish response.

grandys... you keep telling people to move. Some people can't. When you can't sell your home in this area that leaves you with no money to buy a home elsewhere. If you keep your home here and move and rent you still need to come up with 1st and last months rent plus security deposit in addition to paying your current mortgage on a vacant house that is declining in value. With the reductions in wages for working class people I don't know anyone who can afford to do that. I personally took a 60% cut in wage and have to drive 1 3/4 hour each way. I have 2 college degrees, so it's not like I don't have anything to offer. You buy my home and I will move tomorrow

Politicians from both parties have been bought and paid for by corporate America. A person has to be a millionare to even run for political office or be financed by special interest, who they then represent. The American people don't stand a chance when 1/2 are so ignorant or stupid they can't admit or even see that the country has been sold and they continue to vote for the same politicians that have sold it. I am seriously beginning to doubt if we will ever recover, we are following in the footsteps of other historical empires that self imploded. Since people don't seem to have any knowledge of history they are unaware that this is happening, at a very fast rate. I'm actually hoping that the theory of the end of the world in 2012 will happen, I don't want to live in the hateful, corrupt, selfish and greedy world that is becoming so prevalant. I watch the news and cry for what we have become. It will have to get to the point that Egypt was at, the majority of the people living in squaller before they wake up and say no more to the wealthy elitist and corporations that exploit them. We are not there yet but that is where we are headed. People have no jobs, food and gas are becoming unafforable for many, homelessness is on the rise, social programs to help the poor are being defunded. 40 million Americans are on food stamps and they are being cut, we should be ashamed as a nation. Just wait until Walker's budget takes effect, your really going to see further decline for the already poor. Sorry for the gloom and doom but reading comments posted here have made me feel this way.

I am wasting my time trying to explain to you Grandy as I can see by your post's of (11:32 AM vs 10:28 AM) imply and say two different things. Your first posts claim that Immelt is not a Republican and therefore implies that he must be a Democrat just as Obama is, as you say he is sleeping with in your second post. I also see that you don't really know what you are talking about. Example: The word democratic usually means to be fair and just about many things where as Democrat definition is a political party that is of that name. To be democratic is an admirable ideology and most often is what a Democrat stands for. As for taxes on political donations they have never been taxed by either party but one other thing Grandy, Corporations outspend and donate at a rate of 600-1 more dollars than unions do but a person like you would never see the inequality of that and as I said before you are nothing more than a shill and I would look at your own statement of being a sheep as this really applies more to you than any Democrat

You just don't get it do you grandy. I stated in my post that yes I think Obama did ONE mistake, one mistake in picking this CEO and his corporation and not paying one cent of income tax but Grandy I find you disingenuous of not seeing the thousands of corporations that do not pay taxes and overwhelmingly support and give millions/billions of dollars to the right wing Republican party,the same rt wing Republican party that continues to give these enormous tax breaks to these unscrupulous Corporations who in return give back huge political money donations tho the unscrupulous REPUBLICANS. I also have serious doubts that Jeffery Immelt is a Democrat. Grandy, I think you are nothing more than a shill for the Republican party as your post's clearly show.

AnneS: Most nurses in our state do not support Walker. Why would you? Do you think a governor of a state should take the law into his own hands, which is what he has done? Walker has no respect for the law. He defies court orders. What if the rest of Wisconsin people did what Walker has done? They would be fined and put in jail. Why does he think he is different than anyone else? He thinks he is above the law and does not have to follow it. That is not setting a very good example for the people of Wisconsin, either.

Creekmore of Janesville is the vice chairwoman of membership for the Democratic Party of Rock County. She said few Rock County residents, if any, are wealthy enough to benefit from Walker's plan to "corporatize" Rock County.

"There aren't five wealthy people in there," Creekmore said. "People are mistaken about what wealthy is." ////////////////////////

Why do DEMS think that the GOP is only for rich people? Creekmore is right, most people in Fvd Jvl are NOT rich by any means. What they are, are hard working employees and business owners who want less government, less taxes, and the ability to make a fair living. These things ought not be "rich vs. poor" - all American's should be for them. Clearly, the DEMS and Unions are all about power and control.

Also gotthat under Republican policy these tax laws were actually done under there leadership. You have to have a 60 vote in The Senate, otherwise the minority party (Republican) can invoke cloture and you certainly can't blame Obama or the Democrats as they didn't have the 60 votes to stop the Republican induced train wreck that has induced havoc on us little taxpayers that bear the brunt now of trying to keep this country going , but than we get people like you that will never get it and the problem keeps on escalating.

I don't think you got-that point gotthat. The real point gotthat is that Republican's give favorable laws to Corporations who in return overwhelmingly support and give money by the millions/billions back to Republicans who give more breaks again to the Corp[orations. Gotthat, I get that 2/3 of corporations pay not one cent of income tax in US and during the last 10 years 1/3 of corporations have had taxes reduced by 50% and although I think Obama made a mistake with this CEO by hiring him why do you gotthat have a problem with the majority of corporations and CEO'S that pay no taxes including GE under the Republican administrations. Obama makes one mistake and your Republican friends make hundred's of mistakes and you can't seem to get the point that it is wrong. You should change your name from gotthat to idon'tgetit.

merrypoppins did you mean the Jeffrey Immelt who is CEO of GE. The same GE that has shown 5.1 BILLION in profits in the U.S. last year? The same GE that has shown 9.1 Billion in profits last year from over seas? The same GE that makes most of it's money from taking OUR AMERICAN JOBS? The same Jeffrey Immelt who your Democratic leader OBAMA hand picked to be his top economic adviser? Interesting you would bring that up...

Hmm, how much did GE pay in taxes when we had a Republican president?

unionworker, if you did work in skilled trades its no wonder that the GM plant left because of cowardly acts of name calling by jealous workers like you that try to demean the good workers and you can't even spell correctly. Your post of 7:19 AM spells corrupt as corupt, how in the world did you get in skilled trades. Are you a sour grapes type of worker, hated to pay union dues but had your hand out to take union wages, I think the UAW Union tries to inform people of what is really going on, such as GE Corporation made over 63 Billion dollars in 2011 but paid not one cent of tax in 2011 and gave millions of dollars to Republicans. But than again people like unionworker think that is not corruption but Union Dues are. You sir have to be one of the most ignorant/stupid & gullible of workers and actually have the gall to call someone else names is completely ludicrous.

MerryPoppins you needed to get out that Front end office once and awhile, and see what really was really going on.Or maybe you were drinking way too much cool aid, or smoking some of that other stuff grown by that other lady in salary.

I want to tell Gary Livingston that he should see a lawyer and sue manufacturingman for libel. I worked in the front office in supervision for many years at GM Janesville and Mr Livingston was never brought forth for any drinking, drugs or any other disciplinary action and was considered an exemplary employee in the skilled trades Dept for 45 years. It shows complete fabrication on manufacturingman's post and once again I urge Mr Livingston to seek advice from a lawyer as this is a definitely grounds for libel. (Libel is writing something false about someone that damages that person's reputation.)

Funny how long its taking for people to figure out this wasn't a teacher or even a union issue. Thats what the republicans wanted you to make the fight about. Makes it easier for them if we fight amongst ourselves. If the republicans keep going down this path, middle class will be a term you read about in history books. Not our children though because the elite class doesn't want the lower class educated. Easier to keep stupid people under control. Whats coming next? The abolition of cities and towns with fiscal problems like in Michigan? Jansville will probably be one of the first towns on the list in Wisconsin. Don't think thats possible? I'm sure many Michiganites thought the same thing. I'm begining to think that the republicans in office have all been abducted by aliens and reprogrammed into these lunatics. How else do you explain why so many of these repubs suddenly became so out there with their ideas? I'm also convinced John Boehner has stock in Kleenex brand tissue.

I read the paper every day. I also get a call every day from the school telling me that my child's lunch money is low. my children take their own lunch. that's a waste of money on an unnecessary system. There are many other "services" that the schools provide that they shouldn't.

Saxcat, that is an uninformed statement. Have you read the papers for the last 10 or so years? They have been asked to do more with less every year I can remember.

those of you who think walker is not for education are silly. Maybe he feels that education is OVER funded and can afford the cut. throwing money at something doesnt necessarily make it better. he is just asking the educational system to pony up and get more out of less. I think it's a reasonable expectation.

Boy ManufacturingMan, you have quite a lot of nerve to libel someone like that. Can you prove that actually happened?

DC,
It is exactly by that that the Police Union bumps heads with the United Auto workers Union,where as the U.A.bumps heads with the United Artists and where the United Artists bumps heads with the Super Silly Union.'round and a'round they go,chasing their tails in circles.
This entire argument is about unions bumping heads with unions.And Janesville certainly has it's leaders of unprofessional theatrical idiot.

Zoom - Let's take a company like Cullen or a majority of construction, electrical companies, etc. A majority of their employers belong to a union of trade, yet their owner/president (their employer!), are republicans that run corporations. Go ahead and boycott them and see what happens to employment. You are hurting your own. Unions aren't the ones hiring people!

Meanwhile, the real working class were at work or with their families...

"Just like saying republicans get money from big business for campaigning. Sure they do, just like democrats get money from unions."

A common false equivalency, spread by the lemmings. Businesses outspend unions by a factor of 15 to 1.
http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/bl...

Tosser - LOL, too funny. I thought that exact same thing the first time I saw that picture.

PanamaRed - The argument that those use about vacations, vehicles, wasting spending can be used for every politician, including Walker. Many on the left try and use that argument and it simply doesn't hold because politicians are all guilty. Just like saying republicans get money from big business for campaigning. Sure they do, just like democrats get money from unions. Another argument that can't stick because it go's both ways. Change is coming here just like Obama promised change. You many not like it and I may not like Obama's change, but it's coming just like they said it was.

Wait a minute spark, first you complained about how Doyle and Democrats are spendthrifts by stating:
“Our last Governor raided money from funds left and right. Our current President vacations and spends obscene amounts of money.”

Then you claim that Doyle and the Democrats are no different than Walker by stating:
“So carry on old ways? You just admitted the same faults of those that served as passed officials with that statement. Thank you for finally understanding they are no different than Walker. They have all done it and that proves my point.”

Now you claim:
“Change is happening.”

So spark what’s the point you are you trying to prove and what kind of change is happening? Walker “claims” to be taking actions to reduce the deficit and create jobs but in reality he is operating in the same manner as other so-called incompetent and wasteful Governors. What’s changed is the callous and belligerent manner Republicans and our current Governor use to pass legislation. The Republicans and Walker are guilty of using propaganda and deceit in their efforts to sway public opinion and in their defiance of a court order. They seem to think they're above the law. But, as you said, you are entitled to an opinion even if it is based on fallacy rather than reality.

ManufacturingMan - It is exactly those kinds of stories that give union workers and more in particular GM a bad name! Those types of problem employees should've been dealt with swiftly and removed from the company!

MadeinUSA WELL SAID!!!!Abe_Lincoln I agree Twilight Zone...nemesis the unions are for teachers and will stand UNITED FOR THEM That is what Unions Do BACK THEIR WORKERS get a clue DUH..HL_Mencken IMO Your statement should read the attack by Walker is an attack on the voters and tax payers... remember your taxes go up and bif corporations go down to almost nil.
freebird007 I was proud to be there against walker NOT THE Forward Janesville as in a earlier article even Forward janesville made a statement that this was planned before the WALKER Issues and The protesters were there to support their views and RIGHTS.... I do know what Forward Janesville is and I applaud their efforts for Janesville. But now Walker is nothing to the REAL PEOPLE OF THIS STATE and We Will be Heard whether you like it or not AS THAT IS OUR RIGHT as of now.

"Just please remember, in the end, Love is all that matters." Lennon lives!

Hate vs. Love. Some protesters at the Holiday Day Inn exhibited hate towards their fellow community members. The yelling of “shame, shame” wasn’t directed at the governor, who wasn’t even in Janesville at the time. The emotional rage, at times directed with bullhorns, was aimed squarely at neighbors, coworkers, and relatives in Janesville and Rock County.
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In these comments, a veteran describes how he was spit at. Another attendee who lives and works in Rock County was told “ Go to hell”. At least one Janesville woman that went through the “gauntlet” broke into tears.
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There were children among the protesters. There was at least one 9-10 year old girl that attended the chamber event. She had to endure the abusive behavior exhibited towards her and her parents. Some, not all, protesters are teaching our children to hate.
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I love my country but despise much of my government. I detest the policies of many of those, Reps and Dems, in public office. But if I hated those people in office and showed hate towards my fellow citizens, what example would I be setting for my children ?
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The plutocracy and oligarchy that is slowly eroding our country is not an exclusive club of Republicans or Democrats. For years, most federal politicians in both parties have passed legislation that sent our jobs overseas, lowered our standard of living, and created more debt in the U.S. than all the rest of the countries in the world put together.
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One of the best antidotes toward an ailing national economy is a strong local community and economy. Personally, each of is better off if we can count on support of our neighbors. Whether you live in Janesville, Beloit, Milton, or another city, town, or village in Wisconsin, we need to make each other in our communities stronger, not tear them down.
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And we need to teach our children to love our fellow community members. Vote, run for office, help campaigns, protest. Just please remember, in the end, Love is all that matters.

I hope Mr Livingston is proud of "harrassing" those who wanted to hear the governor. I htought the left preached tolerance? I guess tolerance is accepted as long as you believe what the left wants you to believe.

And people wonder why large manufacturing firms do not wish to relocate to Janesville or Rock county?

Bigchip: In your comment you stated that Walker is for education. Tell me why he is going to cut $900 million from education.

Thanks,
Lizz

mouse...and that's your opinion which you are entitled to.

Mouse - You're right. Change is happening.

Thinkfuture...........AMEN!!!!

AnneS....Dean is hiring new nurses. RUN from Mercyless while you can!

Why did the Gazette show the faces of the protestors in their photos but only the backs of the heads of those inside listening to SW?

edgertonFD - You need to read previous posts before you post. Finger pointing is exactly what you're doing while ignoring the past problems that were put into place by the last administration. How quickly some of the left forget and will deny the problems Doyle also caused this state. I understand you are a union, so you are going to be upset. You can thank some of the past administration for robbing and taxing the crap out our state. And please don't go back and blame Thompson for all of Doyles issues. That is really getting old. Yes he made mistakes too, but it sickens me how many democrats deny Doyles failures.
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Recall all you want. I don't support unions. I support the job public workers do. Big difference.

Ann are you at Mercy? I hope so, cause I don't go there. Never would.

I am an Rn living and working n Janesville, and I strongly support Gov. Walker!!!!

This Gary Livingston is a bad example of a Union worker, he was one of the biggest and laziest screw ups at the the Plant. I'm a former skilled trade employe and hated the 2 hours wages they took out my paycheck, where did all that money go ? That's over 6.000 employees. Maybe to the yearly conventions the U.A.W. leaders had in Vegas every year ?
There is lots of my Union brothers feel the same way, and think that had a lot of why G.M. left Janesville. Corupt Union.

This is what democracy looks like - fat, bloated, loud and prone to exaggeration.
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Y'all should be thankful the Governor spoke early enough so you could all get home in time to watch your precious Dancing With the Stars and Biggest Loser. Whiners!

When Prosser wins next Tuesday. It will send another message to these liberals.

However it is sad to say they both voted for the ice arena project. YUK! 1-3million dollars? NOT in favor of that waste of money at all!
We are talking of cutting a hundred teachers and we have potentially 3 mil for an Ice arena? Hard sell for me.

Frogger, you are darn right we will be showing up everywhere he goes. I want him to know that he doesn't speak for me when he spouts out his anti-education and union busting baloney!!

Very aware and met Mr Rashkin at the protest. Very nice guy and will be getting lots of support in the future. Looking forward to participating in that one.

This is sort of off topic, but are many here aware of the war of words</a> developing between that bluster-puss Frank Perrotto and Yuri Rashkin. http://defendwisconsin.blogspot.com/2011...

Yes, it is true. Sodemann whipped his phones plus car past the Walker protester and raced in to eat, drink, and be merry with Governor Walker.
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Sodemann & Walker are one in the same. Our school board president has played Republican politics for far too long with our children's education. Enough is enough. A message must be sent. Vote out Sodemann.

Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Governor Walker, we can SEE you!

Sodemann = Walker. Walker and the Koch cronies bad for Wisconsin, Sodemann and his cronies bad for Janesville, both BAD for students!

spark - finger pointing does not prove your point. Governor "brown bag" Walker doesn't seem to mind the spend spend spend of tax dollars on himself and his family. He is still a hypocrite no matter who did it before him.

Recall Walker and the rest of the fascist Republicans.

The teacher needs more education - in fact Walker is for the kids. Walker is for the future. No more kicking the can down the road for the next administration or generation. So glad he's running the state, not from it. Go Scott Go!

Mouse, is it seriously that difficult for you to figure out when someone is trying to make a point? Do you actually read the posts before? Understand the hypocritical points some try and make?
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So carry on old ways? You just admitted the same faults of those that served as passed officials with that statement. Thank you for finally understanding they are no different than Walker. They have all done it and that proves my point. WEAK argument.

Has anyone in the news media noticed how this protest has evolved from an angry teacher union protest to an angry any union protest?

It was nice to see Lieutenant Commander Worf there. I thought he was going to beam Scotty up. No such luck. We had to settle for, "Walk out on Walker".

I am wondering if these protestors understand what Forward Janesville is all about? Do they know for an actual fact that all of the people attending the banquet are Republicans or even voted for Walker? Why were they allowed to harass these people going to the banquet? Stop the tantrum throwing and bullying!

protesters were there because they're unhappy with what is happening. supporters stay home because their getting what they asked for. don't let the numbers fool you. thank you governor, and keep fighting for the good of our state.

Maybe Gov. Walker should pay the bill, since he feels threatened showing up to these events. Its plain and simple, if he was doing things above board he would not have to sneak in and out like a little girl.

Vote KLOPPENBURG on Tuesday!

If Walker is so proud of what he's doing for Wisconsin, why can't he drive in and go in the front door? He slithered in like the snake he is through the back entance, down Green Valley Drive. PALEEEZE!!! Kleefisch was taken in the back service entrance also when she was at the HI for the Forward Janesville breakfast. I'm proud to be apart of those crowds that intimidate them so much they have to sneak in.

This "unbiased" newspaper cracks me up. In this article, Anne Marie Ames states "The protest appeared to be vastly anti-Walker." APPEARED TO BE???????? APPEARED TO BE?????? The sun APPEARED TO BE shining, the sky APPEARED TO BE blue and Anne Marie APPEARED TO BE doing her unbiased reporting. She also says "A Gazette reporter saw only two people who APPEARED TO BE harrassing protesters." First off, Anne Marie appears to love the phrase, "APPEARED TO BE"! So, let me get this straight.......2 people appearing to harrass protesters would put over 1200 anti-Walker people in the "APPEARED TO BE" crowd?

Maybe all the protestors should have paid the police. It isn't the fault of Foward Janesville that protestors showed up.
Are you really going to protest EVERYWHERE Walker shows up from now on???
Do you really think things will change since you WALKED to Madison?????
"oh my they walked I guess they really mean business" we should change our minds now.
The SHAME SHAME comments Please- get real.
People will disagree or agree. We cannot all agree all of the time. Get over it you lost.

copo9561, the chant seems to have begun with the 1999 protests in Seattle against the WTO. But there's no question the phrase has become symbolic of the entire point of this protest.

Laughing thru the tears at the photo of Walker in front of the humongous banner. Looks like something out of the dark chapters history books or Twilight Zone episode - not sure which.

http://gazettextra.com/photos/galleries/...

"This is what Democracy looks like chant made popular in the Capitol rotunda"."WHAT"
People have been using this chant since the 1960's.

MadeinUSA - 10,000 jobs was a grossly exaggerated number that was double and triple counted. Overall cost of the train to maintain in the future would have been obscene all at the taxpayers expense. As far as the superbowl, the vehicle, etc. Find me past governors, presidents or elected officials that haven't done the same. Our last Governor raided money from funds left and right. Our current President vacations and spends obscene amounts of money. Those arguments are all weak because they are all guilty of it.

Waste of time, I think. No one is going to remember or care in 279 days.

Keep up the good work Scott. It seems there is a wave for this type of re-alignment in the public sector going on all over the nation. Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey, Wisconsin just to name a few.