"Obama's team has built the world's most sophisticated data mining tools ever created for political campaigns"

Too bad that's all they are good at. Getting things done is a more valuable skill.

Theories and systems just don't cut it.

RECALL WALKER!

How can anyone propose legislation based on hearsay evidence?

"Billy: Doesn't make me nervous. I was more than ready to sign the recall petition and did so on Day 1."

Thanks Sarah. Its selfish people like you who make me feel ok about voting against the school referendum in Beloit. After all, if teachers and other public employees shouldn't have to pay a little for their own benifts, why should I have to pay for schools my childern won't use.

Shouldn't be too hard. Even Lotus 1-2-3 would quickly show all the fraud, duplicates, false names and addresses and people who didn't actually sign but whose names show up anyway.

BillyClydePuckett, Excel is ill-suited to be used as a database program, especially with more than 65,536 records. With 700,000+ records you should really be using MySQL or another true relational database manager. The gap in technology sophistication between Republicans and Democrats is absolutely amazing. Obama's team has built the world's most sophisticated data mining tools ever created for political campaigns and his Republican opponents are still so far behind they can't possibly catch his capabilities by November 2012. Trying to use Excel and pivot tables as a database manager for this data is just another example of this. Good luck! You'll need it.

Taking some time to refresh my skills in creating Pivot Tables on Excel. Looking forward to having all signatures on line in a searchable database within several days of submission (should have a lot of help as there are now over 6000 people signed up). Every time I mention this to some of the people who have signed their names to the petitions they intend to turn in they seem to get very nervous. Of course, maybe there really are 125 people living in one of slumlord Gwen Moores Milwaukee properties.

Here is a three step method to preventing bad things from happening to you or your party in politics:

Step 1. Identify threat to you or your party.

Step 2. Inject fear, uncertainty, doubt (FUD) into the debate.

Step 3. Invent a law to propose to prevent the FUD introduced in step 2, legitimizing the FUD in the eyes of citizens.

See VoterID law, and if I had a few minutes - many other local and state laws proposed in the last year.

I like how these guys (R) always quote unidentified third party persons. Is this really a problem? Where is the data? Or is this just another republican scare tactic? Name some names.

Fear I agree with you get the money out of politics, corporate and union alike and dismantle the parties, the blind following that consistently shows up is extremely destructive and shows how little thought at least 80% of the voters put into who the elect, it has gotten disgusting.

If it is legal, it isn't bribery moron. Anymore than paying someone to produce anything else.

Yes, silly liberals, only a very few Republicans are allowed to purchase politicians and not your non-profit corporations whose leadership is democratically elected and whose members spend the money they earn at local businesses. Now if you were an authoritarian organization whose employees raped children while you covered it up and had a prosecutor help you who is now a supreme court member in Wisconsin that would be an entirely different story as well.

It's great that all the problems in this state are solved, so that time can be spent to deal with this issue.

I am with Poobah on his one,no more private money buying politics. No more parties, tghey are the reason America is ruined.
Vato- Happy New Year to you too. Your resolution should be to use less labels, it would make it easier to talk to you.. Mine is going to be to not know everything about everything all the time:) AND to shorten my posts for those of you with short attention spans.

A Republican turning down a bribe? Now that is funny!

vatoloco:
""Maybe Rep. Evan Wynn would also be interested in sponsoring a bill that would make it a felony for elected officials to receive campaign money and then vote for legislation that favors the donor."

Poobah

We wouldn't have a Democrat Party on any ticket then."

SORRY VATOLOCO:
We wouldn't have any party or anyone on a ticket!

Show me the proof that this happened. Anyone can say anything. I can say someone threatened me if I did sign the petition. Just heresay. Hope I spelled that right. :)

RETAIN WALKER - RECALL DA UNIONS.

Walker's new bill would allow him to sell government positions to his donors. Oh wait he already did that and is just another reason the FBI is investigating.

Stand with a Backstabber (Walker)

Would it outlaw paying people like Cindy Archer to blog for your campaign while working for Milwaukee County?

Evan Wynn said, "There's only room for ONE prostitute around here, and I was here first!!"

vatoloco, as a reader of my comments, you should recall I have also advocated abolishing political parties and having candidates run on their own ideas. So that would be great with me if we had no Democrat or Republican or any other party affiliation. Parties are a tool of economic elitists to create divisions in the population and obscure what they are doing to the country.

I have not come across anyone paying people to sign the recall petitions...have any of you?
vatoloco...you are taking 1 POv about socialism and twisting it to suit the conversation-socialism takes the power away from the 1% and gives it back to the 99%, and without being a communist..

By the way, Happy New Year fear.

Or Republican.

"Maybe Rep. Evan Wynn would also be interested in sponsoring a bill that would make it a felony for elected officials to receive campaign money and then vote for legislation that favors the donor."

Poobah

We wouldn't have a Democrat Party on any ticket then.

"Evan Wynn DOES NOTHING for his constituents and is simply a rubber stamp for Scott Walker's agenda."

A Socialist theory, do everything for me because I can't think for myself and I don't have the ability to be successful on my own. Keep up the robot mentality, you parrot. I have to depend on politicians for my success, is that what they taught you fear?

Fedup--What city do you live in? You should move to Janesville. No one jumps out at us here, they just wave and smile very civilly as we drive past. You must be living in fedupland, where no truth is allowed, and hatred and intolerance are required of all.

oldvet as far as out of state money I think the two million plus that Walker has recieved from out of state trumps any your so called union money used for recalls.

Wynn has proven more than once he's not the brightest person.....he heard from someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from his friend?.....yea thats proof LMAO..... an exact amendment to a bill for this was was offered by the Democrats 6 months ago and Wynn along with Every Republican voted NO....

Packolies said it best. if they can pay off a politician with a political lobby then what is the difference? How about passing a law against buying there votes.. I don't blame the repubs for trying this, though I think their timing and method are weak. There needs to be laws against buying politics. How to go about that is one slippery slope.

I rest my case... Thanks booner, you couldn't have had better timing to prove my point.

Nice try wynn......u are still toast. You will be voted out. You are more concerned with your corporate friends than the people in your district.

I see the partisan hacks are out on this one... shocker. How is this a bad law? Poobah I completely agree they should clamp down on the political contribution loopholes as well where a politician can take bribes and yes that is what they are just as payment for a signature or vote is.

Once again instead of analyzing this on the merit of the law we would rather just start up the partisan rhetoric machine and take personal shots at Wynn. It is a good smart law one that should be passed but I would hope Mr. Wynn would work on legislation to help eliminate corporate and union bribery in government as well.

I say we pass a bill that would void an entire petition if it has one invalid signiture. My guess is that they would be left with none.

What a joke! They've got it bass-ackwards. Voters are the ones who are willing to pay in order to sign. LOL. The money is flowing the other way. Make a law against that!!

An out of state union was reported to have provided Thousands of dollars for recall Walker signatures.

I don't think you have to worry about anyone paying for signatures as they will have enough free ones. Unlike buying drinks to recall Democrats in bars. Recall Walker

I have ZERO problem what so ever with ANY side paying for a signature, and or vote! Considering these idiots FLOOD the air waves with ads, wasting millions, to sway a very small %age of 'undecideds', I don't have any problem, just giving $$ directly to someone, and literally buy their vote. I ran the numbers 9and posted it on a GAZ thread) in that WI supreme court race we had, and it came out to something like $450 was spent per undecided vote! Like I said, just cut me a check for $450...The $$$ is ALL READY corrupting politics to an unheard of degree..Might as well, just let votes be bought straight out at this point. Pretty sad when millions are being spent to trick some chump, who knows nothing about the corruption of politics, to vote for them. Might as well just give the person the $$$, and not go through the elaborate ruse.

"It happens on both sides of the aisle," Wynn said.

Well, no, actually, it doesn't. It happened on your side of the aisle when a right-wing bartender offered free shots of liquor to drunken women if they would sign a petition to recall a Democratic State Senator. That's documented. If you can identify someone on the other "side" who has done something similar, go ahead. But you can't.

Democrats offered an amendment to the Republican Voter ID bill last summer which would have made it illegal to offer anything of value in exchange for recall petition signatures. All the Republicans voted against it (and all the other Democratic amendments).

nobody jumps into the street and I didn't get paid for mine or my wife or my friends who signed. we're all just as broke as we have been.lol

Evan Wynn DOES NOTHING for his constituents and is simply a rubber stamp for Scott Walker's agenda. I have tried to contact his office on several occaisions and have gotten 2 generic form letters in return. Thanks for nothing Wynn, time for you to go, you and Loudenbeck.

Representative Andy Jorgensen will replace Evan Wynn in the 43rd! Andy has "earned" my vote....Wynn had his chance to help ALL in the 43rd....but missed the bus by ignoring his constituents!

I for one am collecting recall signatures and have not heard of this until Wynn has brought it up. What an idiot, people have had enough of Walker, in a vary short time. Maybe we can put Wynn out in the street in the next election.

donnaw said, "poobah...you mean like Obama receiving campaign funds from the receipients of the green energy stimulus monies? Google Obama campaign donors--interesting article in the Daily Beast."
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Yes, I do, donnaw. I mean all money and all politicians, Democrat and Republican and any other stripe. All of them. That's why I suggested the law. I would like to see a prohibition on all private money in politics. Period.

These are the acts of desperate people.

This guy is just showing us anther reason why those rep. & dem. should only be geting paid part time or less
They are not needed full time A real wast of tax money

No one had to pay me to sign & I do not know of any that signed who would want to be payed to sign their all more then glad to sign the RECALL

poobah...you mean like Obama receiving campaign funds from the receipients of the green energy stimulus monies? Google Obama campaign donors--interesting article in the Daily Beast.

Evan says "When they wrote the bribery statute, people honestly never thought about recalls."
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Evan, what would you call the loophole that allows $250,000 out-of-state CONTRIBUTIONS to Governor Walker? If you can't think of anything, I have a top ten list:
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1. Political prostitution on steriods.
2. Loopholepalooza BABY!!!
3. Pay for play.
4. Exactly what it looks and smells like.
5. You get what you pay for.
6. Tribute to Caesar.
7. The Governor's office is a wholly owned subsidiary of (fill in the blank).
8. Incumbent stimulus.
9. Recall lube job.
10. And my favorite: legal bribery.

janesvillian - if it is so easy, why is that all the ones that I have driven by are alone almost jumping out into traffic to get you to see their silly little signs.

Rep. Wynn is making a fool out of himself, first by believing the outrageous heresay about a $10 payment to sign the petition, then secondly by proposing legislation to outlaw such an act. What a waste of taxpayer resources! This is another Republican joke of a solution in search of a problem.

Look how easy and quick these legislators can slap a law together to stop somebody from paying ten bucks for a signature, but they can't stop the thousands even millions pouring into their campaigns? By no means would we want to restore public confidence in the legislative system.

if they can pay off a politician with a political lobby then what is the difference? How about passing a law against buying there votes..

Maybe Rep. Evan Wynn would also be interested in sponsoring a bill that would make it a felony for elected officials to receive campaign money and then vote for legislation that favors the donor.

I'm calling bullhockey on that story. Ten bucks for a signature? Twenty says there are no witnesses willing to come forward with a deposition. Where's the money supposed to have come from? Any recall petitioner types flush with cash from their privately owned businesses? It's actually really, incredibly easy to get people to sign the petitions against Walker -- you just have to mention his name.