Cullen says he would run for governor in recall election

By ANN MARIE AMES ( Contact )   Saturday, Dec. 3, 2011
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— Tim Cullen has been a state senator, a city council member and a school board member.

He wants to add “governor” to the list.

Cullen, a senator from Janesville, on Friday said he wants to be the Democratic candidate if an effort to recall Gov. Scott Walker is successful.

“I think I have credentials to be governor,” Cullen said. “I have executive experience in the public and private sectors. I believe I offer a resume where people can come forward and trust me as their governor.”

United Wisconsin, the statewide organization working for the recalls of Walker and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, this week announced it has gathered more than 300,000 signatures in the first two weeks of the 60-day effort. More than 540,000 signatures are needed to trigger a recall election.

Robert Allen of AFSCME 24, the Wisconsin State Employees Union, said his group is not considering candidates at this time.

“We’re just as an organization focused on recalls now, not so much on what comes next,” Allen said. “Right now, it’s just a pretty big endeavor to get signatures.”

Allen said a primary election could give voters choices, but Cullen thinks the Democratic Party might push to support one candidate.

“I hope it’s me,” he said.

Cullen, 67, of 3711 N. Spring Hill Drive, Janesville, just finished the first year of his four-year Senate term. When Cullen was running for that seat, he set a limit on the money his campaign would accept. On Friday, he said he was not ready to make the same commitment for a race for governor.

Cullen said he would need help to get the money to run a statewide race.

“I readily acknowledge I don’t have statewide name recognition,” Cullen said. “And I don’t have a large chunk of money.”

Cullen got national attention—both positive and negative—in February as one of 14 Democratic senators who left Wisconsin to delay a vote on Walker’s budget-repair bill, which drastically reduced collective bargaining rights for most public workers.

Since then, more than one person has approached Cullen and said he or she was upset that he left the state, Cullen said. He defends the 14 senators by saying they took an “extraordinary” action to give the public time to understand the 140-page bill.

“That was the only vehicle to slow that bill down,” Cullen said. “The really extraordinary thing was to do all that for a budget-repair bill.”

Walker is the eighth governor with whom Cullen has worked. Cullen’s first elected role was on the Janesville City Council from 1970 to 1971.

He then worked as ombudsman for Rep. Les Aspin, D-Wis. In 1974, Cullen was elected to the state Senate and was the majority leader from 1982 until he resigned in 1987.

That year, Gov. Tommy Thompson appointed Cullen secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Health and Social Services. In 1988, he began work at Wellpoint Inc., the parent company of Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield, where he worked until 2007.

Cullen served on the Janesville School Board from 2007 to 2010. Although that was a nonpartisan position, Cullen said it demonstrated his ability to work with people of different political opinions. Legislation is more effectively written and passed when conservatives and liberals work together, he said.

“I think it’s better for the state if the big issues are decided in a bipartisan way,” he said.

Cullen said he is in good health and ready to take on the rigors of a campaign and a term as governor. He was treated for prostate cancer in 2009 and had open-heart surgery in 2007. He also had a rare case of blood poisoning in 2010, he said.

“I’m completely healthy,” Cullen said. “It slowed me up for a while, but I am completely fine now. I feel great.”

Asked if he would try for a second term if elected, Cullen said he would decide when the time was closer. He would base the decision on his success in office, Cullen said.

“No (Wisconsin) governor would have ever come to office under these circumstances,” Cullen said. “The public’s going to want me to prove they made the right choice.”

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ALLin
Jan 23, 2012 at 5:49 p.m.
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He would run alright - straight down to the clocktower in Rockford.

Feduptaxpayer
Dec 20, 2011 at 8:46 p.m.
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OMG - you think we have high taxes now. If Culligan would get elected he would relocate to Rockford and we all know what shape that state is in financially.

jmartin
Dec 20, 2011 at 3:31 p.m.
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Would Tim need to give up his Illinois drivers license and his Clock tower bonus points if he wins?

nomoreres
Dec 18, 2011 at 4:19 p.m.
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Honorfirst, I respect your perspective, but I wouldn't liken Tim's position to that of most employers. He was within his rights to do what he did. I'm not saying I'm crazy about what he did, but I do admire him for doing it. Sometimes we're left with few options and need to do the right thing even if it appears to be otherwise. If not, we never would have had the American Revolution. I think it's sad that he and the others felt they had no other option - I think they were right. If we had a governor who was willing to listen this scenario would have never occurred. I think you and others understand that, but some won't admit it.

Honorfirst
Dec 15, 2011 at 11:12 a.m.
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Gov. Walker has tackled a very tough problem and many school boards and schools will state they now have control where they did not have it in the past. I voted for Tim Cullen because I thought he would make a positive impact in the state senate and I think when he is at work in Wisconsin, he does a respectful job. My problem along with several others in the Janesville area is when Tim left his duties he was hired to do and hid out in Illinois with the others to delay the vote. I know that some feel this was honorable and the right thing to do but put it in perspective: if you disagreed with something your employer wanted to implement and you took an unexcused leave of absence, what do you think the consequences would be? You better believe you would be looking for employment, not a promotion. Too many of us there is a right way and a wrong way to do things and I am betting most believe what Tim and the other democratic senators did was WRONG. I will never be able to support Tim Cullen for another position other than retirement. He does not deserve to be our Governor.

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 8:05 p.m.
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poobah-Your'e right I drew that parallel not you. I also think Walker is hated-it'd pretty obvious that he has unleashed a torrent of hate unparalleled in the history of Wisconsin.
You'd have tell me why-I know all the standard lines-he lied, he took away collective bargaining, he wanted employees to pay some on their own pensions and health insurance,the Kochs but WHAT is the real reason? This is real hate-he has a reason to need security, and lots of it. Just reading these posts sometimes I'm glad nobody knows who I am.

poobah
Dec 6, 2011 at 7:02 p.m.
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poorrichard said, "There are many deranged crazies out there-its not a matter of being brave just smart-Think Gabby Gifford and she was'nt hated anything like Walker is. You're too smart for this school yard B.S."
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If it's school yard talk why did you repeat it about Obama? And excuse me but there is a huge difference in security requirements for a US president versus a governor. I never drew a parallel between Walker, Obama and Giffords - that's your construct. I'm surprised to hear you acknowledge how hated Walker is. Listening to all of the other tea party Republicans you'd think he's the most beloved governor in history.

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:37 p.m.
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"Tim Cullen has been a state senator, a city council member and a school board member."
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And according to the "Occupy" losers, he's one of the 1%. But of course, if he was a anything but a democrat, that would matter, right? Hypocrites, this is your cue to come out of the woodwork where you live with the cockroaches.
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No really, even though he's one of the 1%, he really cares about you. Really!! I mean it!! He does because he says so. I swear....and so does Tim.

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:36 p.m.
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poobah-Obama has demonstrated his lack of bravery - running around surrounded by a hoard of security personnel and handlers, snaking in and out of back doors, refusing to address tough questions in a public forum, looking like a scolded child before congressional hearings. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he slithers out of the 2012 election.
As you know most of this is your words and as you should know this has nothing to do with being brave. There are many deranged crazies out there-its not a matter of being brave just smart-Think Gabby Gifford and she was'nt hated anything like Walker is. You're too smart for this school yard B.S.

poobah
Dec 6, 2011 at 4:11 p.m.
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I'm glad you were entertained, Third_Eye. I can show you the section of the state Constitution that has provisions for Walker declining to face a recall election - something that is a definite possibility. Can you show me the section of the state Constitution that would REQUIRE him to be a candidate in a recall election? Of course you can't. Walker has demonstrated his lack of bravery - running around surrounded by a hoard of security personnel and handlers, snaking in and out of back doors, refusing to address tough questions in a public forum, looking like a scolded child before congressional hearings. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he slithers out of the recall election.
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Wisconsin Constitution, Article XIII, Section 12 (4): Unless the incumbent declines within 10 days after the filing of the petition, the incumbent shall without filing be deemed to have filed for the recall election.

Third_Eye
Dec 6, 2011 at 3:54 p.m.
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Poobah; quote"the Republicans may well run someone other than Walker. He could very well choose to step down prior to the election." end quote
OMG that is the most laughable comment you have made in a long while, well at least since yesterday.
Is there a tin foil hat sale at Big Lots?

youkillme
Dec 6, 2011 at 3:31 p.m.
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To those posters who think the Gazette has endorsed Tim Cullen for Governor in the Recall, until we see an official editorial endorsement, I wouldn't put too much stock into whatever you may have heard. The Gazette endorsed Cullen for state senator earlier, but they would have to condemn Scott Walker and turn their backs on their war against unions and embrace not only the return of compromise and negotiation through collective bargaining but the need for the Recall in the first place. I don't see that happening.

ALLin
Dec 6, 2011 at 3:12 p.m.
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The title of this article says Cullen would run 'for' governor - not long ago it read that he was running 'from' governor. I think it's time for him to throw in the towel. A nice long, relaxing vacation at the clocktower would probably do him good.

smallBIZowner
Dec 6, 2011 at 3:07 p.m.
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I think they know him quite well in the clocktower area of Rockford - his home away from home.

no
Dec 6, 2011 at 2:49 p.m.
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Does Tim Cullen think anyone outside of Rock County even knows who he is? Laughable.

poobah
Dec 6, 2011 at 2:41 p.m.
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teapartysal said, "The fact that they decided to do a recall without a candidate lined up(one they are willing to admit to, anyway) reminds me of a spoiled child who screams for a toy he doesn't even know how to use."
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"They" are many people from ALL parties, including Republicans who desperately want to see Walker recalled. You act like this is one party failing to announce their candidate. There will probably be candidates from many parties, and who knows, the Republicans may well run someone other than Walker. He could very well choose to step down prior to the election. There is NO statutory requirement for ANY party or candidate to announce they are a candidate prior to the recall election being certified. You are the spoiled child in this case and the toy that you clearly don't know how to use is the state Constitution.

youkillme
Dec 6, 2011 at 1:29 p.m.
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What did Gov. Scott Walker say about Tim Cullen? "He's pretty reasonable, but he's not one of us. . . . He's not there for political reasons. He's just trying to get something done. . . . He's not a conservative. He's a pragmatist."
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What would JFK or Harry Truman say about Tim Cullen? You're absolutely right Scotty, Cullen is not one of you - never was. He's one of us.

RichE95
Dec 6, 2011 at 1:04 p.m.
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Wll stated poorrichard. I also do not hate unions as such just what they have to often become. I was a union member at 16. By 18 I began to see what was wrong. I remember at GM in the 60's and 70's when the union was by name engage in personal vile stuff about supervisors. It would be printed in the union newsletter. La La Land is a perfect description of where the unions went and where the teachers unions are now. The name calling has completely come back and is once again a trademark of the unions and unfortunately the Democratic Party. Not my father's Democrats! Can you imagine JFK or Harry Truman behaving like Tim Cullen etc?

mteg
Dec 6, 2011 at 12:55 p.m.
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Title should have read "Cullen says he would run from governor in recall election"

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.
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Thanks RichE95-Nice to know there are others who understand whats going on around them and are not living in La La land of make believe.
I'm not the only person who has had a bad experiance with a union but I DON'T hate unions.
For many, they love them-thats great. I have many friends in unions (mostly teachers) who are making the decision whether to stay in or opt out-they now have a choice. Good for them.
These recalls are because the unions can't wait to find out their choices.

teapartysal
Dec 6, 2011 at 12:08 p.m.
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Cullen has quite the record, all right. Fleeing to another state to avoid difficult situations. Just what one wants in a governor. Also, I"ve caught this guy in 2 lies now about and to personal friends . I don't care whether the Gazette and its editors support OR endorse this guy The Dems need to come up with a better choice than a liar who runs when the going gets rough. The fact that they decided to do a recall without a candidate lined up(one they are willing to admit to, anyway) reminds me of a spoiled child who screams for a toy he doesn't even know how to use.

RichE95
Dec 6, 2011 at 9:58 a.m.
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antireactionary is correct when describing GM's management failure and incompetence at the corporate level. However, when it came to the decision of what plant goes and what plant stays, labor is one of the most important, though not the only, factor. While Janesville's prospects slid, local UAW President Mike Sheridan was at rallies promising to put a hurt on Woodmans. He took the local out on strike not that long before the end. Do you think the union President in Arlington, TX was up to those things?

antireactionary
Dec 6, 2011 at 9:49 a.m.
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The union comments are interesting, but for the most part they are misinformed. First of all, you have a contract that is open to interpretation by all sides. But in the end, only an arbitrator officially decides who is right and who is wrong. Second, if management breaks the contract, you know what happens? Nothing. Companies face no penalties for breach of contract. If a worker breaks the contract, they can be fired or their pay docked.

Managers run companies, not unions. Saying that the union was in charge in Janesville means that management was either incompetent or fraudulent. Did stockholders know of this? GM's problems had nothing to do with labor and everything to do with layer upon layer of management, see the CEO of Renault's comments in the Economist. They couldn't even bring a Bob Lutz car to market in less than five years.

jtliszew
Dec 6, 2011 at 9:47 a.m.
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You do realize Good American that those businesses in Janesvile do support the economy by purchasing equiptment and products trough out the USA.

RichE95
Dec 6, 2011 at 9:26 a.m.
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Having worked in several union shops I can verify what poorrichard says. Goodamerican describes admirable behavior on the part of his/her union. That is the way it should be. I would be interested in knowing what and where the union was. My experiences in the UAW and the Janesville Teachers union coincide with poorrichard. He is also correct about getting tired of both the company and the union. The last 10 years of GM in Janesville the company basically backed away from things and let the UAW run the show and serve as spokesperson for GM within the community. All we heard was the crap about the great relationships and work force. A plant manager who told the truth was forced to retire. The last plant manager didn't even bother to live in Wisconsin. Behind the scenes, the company was fed up with Janesville and ultimately moved all production to Texas where the local union and the company actually worked together. Our community seems increasingly dominated by old union types and new like minded wannabees. They just don't get it and are uncivil towards others. The have an apt hero in Tim Cullen. Interesting to see the endorsement of Tim by Liebert - just 10 days after Liebert and Rashkin slured the Governor and taxpayers during a council meeting. Bad Omens for Janesville.

GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 a.m.
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poorrichard said: "If I ever resond (sic) to one your posts again(which I highly doubt"--LOL. And since then, he has done nothing but respond to my posts! Another conservative who says one thing and does another.

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 7:22 a.m.
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You just can't stop the name calling can you?
You better hurry I think your school bus is coming.

GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:56 a.m.
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I don't imply anything. You, in some kind of paranoia, may infer that that's what I'm saying, but that only makes you wrong. I'm not implying anything of the kind. Your imagination is where that's coming from.

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:51 a.m.
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One more thing-I wish you would change your user name-we are all Good Americans no matter what party we're in or where we shop and work.
You imply you are the only "Good American".

poorrichard
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:39 a.m.
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Good American-Lets see where to began-
1st off I wasn't giving permisson I was only agreeing with YOU,
2nd You are calling me a liar (never in union)
3rd You are saying I'm crazy(Martians all around me)
The next post gets better-You tell me what a rotten job I did as a union steward (in the union I was never in).You tell me I got booted out. Then you go on to call me a slacker and impinge my integrity.
I gave MY history from 1971 to 1976 when I worked at Modine Mfg. I was the BEST steward they had, My fellow union brothers and sisters wanted me to run for President but I had had enough. I was fed-up fighting the company AND the union. I quit and went back to school. I don't need to tell this you since you will beleive what you want. Now for some reason your union is perfect-mine wasn't.
If I ever resond to one your posts again(which I highly doubt) stick to the facts as see them and stop the name calling. And no I'm not telling you what to do just trying to help so you don't look and sound like a fool again.

jvilleis86ed
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:27 a.m.
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GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 6:12 a.m.
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I'm spending it on the things we need, in South Beloit and Rockford. And thanks for paying your taxes, like a Good American.

jvilleis86ed
Dec 6, 2011 at 5:53 a.m.
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GoodAmerican what are you spending your tax payer provided rations on? The Union offering that you can afford are few.

GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 5:46 a.m.
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Which means, jvl, that I won't have money to spend in Janesville's non-union businesses. How's that unemployment rate working out for you? How are all of these many Scott Walker-created jobs working out for you?

jvilleis86ed
Dec 6, 2011 at 5:27 a.m.
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Glory days will not pay the bills..

jvilleis86ed
Dec 6, 2011 at 5:05 a.m.
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GoodAmerican hows your union ship working out for ya, do ya see the writing on the wall, it reads You are no longer viable, do ya see it. Look close.

GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 a.m.
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If, poorrichard, you really were a union steward (which,again, I don't believe), then it's a good thing you got booted out of the position, because if you did as you say you did, and defended slackers and malingerers, then you never had any understanding of what your job was in the first place. I have been in our union for many, many years, and I've seen, on occasion, a member want to have the union go to bat for them when they were clearly in the wrong. In every one of these instances, the union has refused to try and make a case for the person who was failing to do what their job required of them. So, of course, if unions have officials like you, who were willing to defend those they knew to be wrong, it would weaken the union. Thank goodness for us, our union did not have slacker-defenders like you as our officials. We have always had good people of contientiousness and integrity who know what battles should be fought and which should not.

GoodAmerican
Dec 6, 2011 at 4:07 a.m.
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Thanks, poorrichard,for your permission. You conservatives never cease to amaze me. You really think that permission is yours to give. And I don't believe for one second that you were ever a union steward or ever had all these bad apples falling off trees all around you. Your silly story is made up, by you, a self-declared union-hater. I bet you see Martians all around you, too.

youkillme
Dec 5, 2011 at 11:36 p.m.
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RichE95 wrote - "He has never stood for the people - Tim only stands for his political cronies." Walker disagrees. Walker himself said Cullen "was not there for political reasons." Walker also said Cullen is not one of us, that "he's just trying to get something done."
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Then RichE95 wrote - "Walker .. was trying to deal with Tim Cullen. Everytime Scott Walker has sincerely tried to work with Cullen, Cullen has rejected it." ------------------------ None of what you wrote jibes with reality. Walker said all along that there is nothing to negotiate, nothing to compromise. Why the smears and distortions?
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RichE95 writes that Cullen basking in the admiration of Walker protesters yet fails to condemn their 1st Amendment rights. Somehow, that makes him a hypocrite? You're the one who's lost his bearings.

MooShoo
Dec 5, 2011 at 11:19 p.m.
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Richie, capital is what the 1% own, Sen. Cullen and the 99% that support him will reclaim the Capitol.

RichE95
Dec 5, 2011 at 10:27 p.m.
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Never have I heard Tim Cullen utter a single word critical of uncivil behavior of his supporters. That includes those who hold "Heil Hitler" signs at a Christmas Tree ceremony, those who defaced the capital, those who harrassed Gov Walker's neighbors, those who threaten the Governor's family, those who slur the Governor during Janesville City Council meetings, and on and on. On the contrary, Mr Cullen attends their rallies and basks in their admiration, If it walks like a hypocrite and talks like a hypocrite, it must be a hypocrite. There is Tim Cullen. It is my regret for having been follish enough to have voted for him many times.

youkillme
Dec 5, 2011 at 9:10 p.m.
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So sad to hear about all those workers being forced to cash those union negotiated-for paychecks and handsome benefits they worked so hard to earn. Shame. How did all those workers survive the insult? Overpaid ingrates. Yeah. Why should taxpayers pay better salaries and benefits to anybody than they get themselves? Why can't America have a single wage taxpayer/worker economic class for the 99 percent? Like they do in communist countries. ;^)

poorrichard
Dec 5, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.
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GoodAmerican-I know at alot of guys like the fellow you described. I had to "work" with them at the union factory I worked. Most of us were trying to do a good job but guys like your buddy could give a cr*p. Out at lunch time drinking and smoking pot then back to the job. We couldn't get rid of them. When I was made a union steward I had to defend these guys. I guarantee you if you have worked with a union-half the workers hated the union as much as the company.
Go ahead shop in Illinois-pay their sales tax, after all it's your money-give away to who you want.

jtliszew
Dec 5, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.
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I think unions have destroyed America the last 20 years by being greedy. Unions were organized to make sure that working conditions were good and that people earned a fair wage. Why would anyone want to pay union dues. To me this is wrong. You should not to pay for a job. Makes allot of sense when more union jobs are lost because of greed and more people are making money with a company that rewards them on performence and not how long they have been there. Convince me unions are great. I will listen. Until then I will continue to support any business I feel like and it does not matter if they are union or not.

GoodAmerican
Dec 5, 2011 at 6:19 p.m.
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Your forgiveness means everything to me. Now I'll sleep tonight.

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 5, 2011 at 6:07 p.m.
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"Your posts indicate that you don't follow discussions very well."
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Now THAT's a rather ignorant assumption. I'll forgive you. I like your sarcasm.

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 5, 2011 at 6:03 p.m.
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"Why does everyone in a union think they are better?"
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Collective arrogance.

GoodAmerican
Dec 5, 2011 at 6 p.m.
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Robot...I already referenced that. Your posts indicate that you don't follow discussions very well.

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:53 p.m.
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"I will do all of my shopping and other business in Illinois."
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Maybe you'll see Tim Cullen there.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

GoodAmerican
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:35 p.m.
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What I'm saying, jt, is that all of these conservatives who are on here constantly expressing their hatred for people in public unions are employed in businesses which need us in order to survive. They want to act like they pay everything for us and that we pay nothing for them...but the fact is, of course, that just like in the "socialistic" economies they hate so much, "capitalism" also means that we all pay for each other, too. Now, since they have decided that they want to take from me, I will do all of my shopping and other business in Illinois. Why should I give my money to those who only want to take away from me? If they lose business, they may realize that I was one of those paying their way for them.

youkillme
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:33 p.m.
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RichE95, so you're saying that it was Walker all along that is the compromiser and the negotiator? jtliszew, I don't know if you are aware that labor unions, both private and public sector, are under attack in America. Have you got something against unions?

jtliszew
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.
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Why does everyone in a union think they are better?

RichE95
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.
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Scott Walker has continued to make a mistake trying to deal with Tim Cullen. He has said Cullen is a moderate he can work with. I give credit to Walker for trying to work with Cullen but in reality it is pointless. Tim Cullen continues to show himself to be a classic liberal. Everytime Scott Walker has sincerely tried to work with Cullen, Cullen has rejected it. Cullen is a wolf who pretends he is a lamb.

jtliszew
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:05 p.m.
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We would probably all move there EZone because all the jobs would go there because the Democrats think we should do away with all the tax breaks for companies.

Ezoner
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:01 p.m.
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If Cullen were governor -- would they move the WI capital to the Clocktower in ROckford?

jtliszew
Dec 5, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.
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What are you trying to say Good American? That people like me are no good because we are not in a union. I support American made and I also buy GM cars. I support the economy everyday. I agree that there are worthlees people out there, however most of the working class people support all businesses and the employees who make those companies great. I would like to know who you represent so I can avoid buying from them and put you out of a job.

ifiruledtheworld
Dec 5, 2011 at 4:40 p.m.
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Thank you, Third-Eye. I think many people would concur if they would take off their donkey glasses and really think about it honestly. Running away is not productive. This behavior--as exhibited by Cullen and the other senators--does not show leadership or engender trust.

poobah
Dec 5, 2011 at 4:26 p.m.
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Third_Eye said, "Hey Poo, I did list reasons for my analysis."
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I know you did, Third_Eye. Tim and the other senators also listed their reasons for taking the actions they did. But that didn't stop you from commenting about what they did. Just as your analysis didn't stop me from commenting.

youkillme
Dec 5, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.
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Walker said Cullen "was not there for political reasons." Walker also said Cullen is not one of us, that "he's just trying to get something done." RichE95, are you calling Scott Walker a liar?

RichE95
Dec 5, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.
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If Tim Cullen were Governor, Illinois would become more competetive. He has never stood for the people - Tim only stands for his political cronies.

GoodAmerican
Dec 5, 2011 at 3:14 p.m.
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Like Mr. Cullen, I, too, run to Illinois. I live between Beloit and Janesville, so I'm not too far from the border, and I run to Illinois for everything. I am so sick and tired of paying the way for all of these non-union thugs. When I shop at Janesville's stores, or go to a bar in Janesville for a beer, or get a haircut in Janesville, these non-union thug business owners take the money that I have spent in their establishments, and they pay wages with it!! They may even pay benefits with it!! That's not what I want my money going for. Why should I have to pay so these non-union people can get a wage? Why should I have to pay so they can see a doctor? My money should not have to go to supporting these non-unionists. I refuse to spend my money in Wisconsin because it just goes to pay for things for other Wisconsinites, and I will have NONE of that! I saw that the other day, the Gazette had a story about a local man who attended the City Council meeting and pitched a fit because his tax money was going to pay public employees and he was angry about it. He said, "I haven't had a raise in 6 years!" I know this fellow, as we grew up together. And I can tell you, it is no wonder at all that he is stuck in a low-paying, dead-end job. This is a guy who spent his entire youth refusing to learn anything at school. He was in the parking lot smoking more than he was in class, and when his friends tried to talk to him about what his future was going to be like, he scoffed at us and told us what fools we were, and told us how stupid the teachers were. Now he cries because he can't get a raise, and instead of accepting the responsibility for a lifetime of bad choices, he blames others for making more than him, and acts like he deserves it, too. It's easier for him and people like him to blame public employees than to face the fact that, just like they pay for us, we also pay for THEM!!

Third_Eye
Dec 5, 2011 at 3:06 p.m.
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Hey Poo, I did list reasons for my analysis.

HVYMOD
Dec 5, 2011 at 2:21 p.m.
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All I hear is ran to ill , ran to ill. Walker ran too...... He ran wisconsin into the ground to benefit his buddies. Wis leads the nation in job losses since walker signed his budget. Wis also leads the nation in money cut fron education 2.5 Billion , and lets not forget about the 550 Million cut from medicaid/medicare. I can't wait to vote for cullen.

poobah
Dec 5, 2011 at 1:10 p.m.
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Third_Eye said, "Tim Cullen for Governor? I think not. He is simply not Governor material."
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Third_Eye as a political analyst. I think not. He is simply not analyst material.

freebird007
Dec 5, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
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GOD HELP US ALL!!! TALK ABOUT WHAT"S IN IT FOR ME KINDA PERSON.

Third_Eye
Dec 5, 2011 at 12:42 p.m.
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Tim Cullen for Governor? I think not. He is simply not Governor material.
When the 14 democrats ran to Illinois earlier this year Mr. Cullen was one of them. After disrupting the political process for several weeks the 14 Democrats came back and Mr Cullen stated that he had been "negotiating" with the Republicans and a "settlement" was near.
He also crowed about how he had urged his his fellow democrats to return.
He didn't have the courage of his convictions to return alone.
He did not show leadership in this failure to return alone.
On the other hand Governor Walker has shown great courage in taking on the iron grip that the public employees have had over the state treasury (ie the taxpayer).

jmac420
Dec 5, 2011 at 10:24 a.m.
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I would move back to Wisconsin JUST to vote for Tim Cullen!! RECALL WALKER!

frogger
Dec 5, 2011 at 10:01 a.m.
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I see the only way to get more JVL stories is to write the same one 5 different ways in 4 different days.

vatoloco
Dec 5, 2011 at 9:10 a.m.
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He does know how to run, from personal experience.

earnednotgiven
Dec 5, 2011 at 7:35 a.m.
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Tim Cullen hasn't changed his ways at all, his voting is the same way it was when he was in politics the first time. Tim Cullen needs to just go away, back to Illinois since he likes it so much.

wis_granny
Dec 5, 2011 at 7:19 a.m.
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Well, Tim Cullen thinks he is the right choice for Govenor of Wisconsin, but can he stay out of Illinois to do it?? He is one of the democrats that are tied to the big unions and listened to them, ran off to Illinois.....
I wouldn't vote for him. Mostly the problem is there are a lot of people that are union members and are told to protest.. they can not think for themselves... All this recall stuff is costing the state a lot of extra money that we do not have. What a waste..

Rick_Raff
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:07 a.m.
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Very good comment smallBZowner. These unions are rolling the dice and they are gambling on him losing without thinking about what will happen if he defeats this recall effort. Not unlike every other liberal idea out there, is it? Never think about the real world, just do what your world says to do. Progressive = very short sighted

WalterReuther
Dec 5, 2011 at 5:05 a.m.
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RickRaff,
I get it. That's cute. You don't understand what hyperbole is. Let me explain. Go ahead and take a look through the comments here. Of those supporting Walker, the overwhelming majority of them make reference to Tim Cullen and the other 13 Senators going to IL back in Feb. What these commenters (and apparently you) don't understand is that move by the Heroic 14 is what began the protest movement against Walker's oppressive policies. You and other Republicans may not believe it (and who gives a damn if you don't, quite honestly) but those that actually understand what Walker is trying to do owe a debt of gratitude to Tim Cullen. I'll be more than happy to pay that debt with my vote in a recall election.

smallBIZowner
Dec 4, 2011 at 11:27 p.m.
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I can see it now: Palin-Walker in 2012. I got my fingers crossed too. This recall thing could be the thing that sends Walker to the white house - but only if there is a recall election, and only if he wins it.

RoCoChick
Dec 4, 2011 at 11:21 p.m.
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A recall election win by Walker would propel him to the top of the list for Vice President candidates next November. Cross your fingers. He could fix all 50 states then.

ALLin
Dec 4, 2011 at 11:06 p.m.
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The fact that Cullen participated in a planned partisan charade is not relevant to him being a Governor - 'running' is not a tactic that a Governor would need. The 'flee for the border' thing is certain to be a major part of his legacy and a blemish on his record.

Rick_Raff
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:24 p.m.
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That's funny...I didn't say anything about Tim running. You said, "every single comment is the exact same thing over and over again. "Cullen ran away. Cullen ran away."
Lies... Liberals.... Same thing.

non_grata
Dec 4, 2011 at 9:33 p.m.
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Union thugs, makes me laugh everytime i see it, lol.

WalterReuther
Dec 4, 2011 at 8:28 p.m.
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You know the Republicans are worried when every single comment is the exact same thing over and over again. "Cullen ran away. Cullen ran away." Exactly. Cullen and the others fled to IL to shine the spotlight on Walker. 2 Republican Senators lost their seats because Cullen ran away. Hundreds of thousands of signatures are pouring in to trigger a recall because Cullen ran away. Why did Cullen run away? Because Walker set out to destroy decades of progress for workers' rights that so many had fought incredibly hard for. Now that the public sector has been compromised, dozens of reports are pouring into the Equal Rights division of DWD. Private sector employees are having overtime pay withheld. They're not being allowed breaks or lunch periods. The successful attack on the public sector is now beginning to leak over into the private. This is why Cullen fled, so the rest of the state could be made aware and start to fight. That's exactly what we're doing. Now that Walker's cards are all on the table and he has to fight fair, he will be defeated.

Thinkfuture
Dec 4, 2011 at 8:26 p.m.
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"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust...in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law." ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Sen. Cullen and the Wisconsin 14 were practicing the same civil disobedience practiced by MLK, Jr. Governor Walker's attempts to ram through the "Repair Bill" was a gross injustice to the democratic process.
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I am proud the Wisconsin 14 had the courage to practice civil disobedience and expose the injustice of Walker's ways.

Rick_Raff
Dec 4, 2011 at 7:50 p.m.
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Oh I'm not worried at all youkillme. This is one guy I relish Scott running against. Soon, the name Tim Cullen will be synonymous with "Epic Fail." Bring it Tim, but you better bring it all, because we have the money and The Man who can crush you.
Bring all your fake signitures and your biggest basket of eggs you union thugs... You'll need them to keep up your reputation.
Re-Elect the anti-public union Man.
Re-Elect Scott Walker!!

youkillme
Dec 4, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.
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Don't worry, when Cullen is elected Governor, he won't run to other states for money like Walker does on our dime.

RoCoChick
Dec 4, 2011 at 5:47 p.m.
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They run when they are TOLD to run. Is this what we want for a governor? - not. I want a governor that will stay and address the tough issues.

totellthetruth
Dec 4, 2011 at 4:48 p.m.
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The running to Illinois shows a lack of intelligence and integrity. Why run to the second most corrupt state in the union? Why run at all.

youkillme
Dec 4, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.
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The "running to Illinois" is a neutral dead issue. Two senate democrats easily defeated recall attempts against them while two stay-at-home Walker rubberstamps lost their seats. For Cullen, The positives far outweigh the negatives. Then there's the Koch phone call. Then there's Ohio. If I were a republican, I'd be worried about Cullen's candidacy - he's a winner.

smallBIZowner
Dec 4, 2011 at 3:40 p.m.
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The 'run to Illinois' thing is a the only gripe that is needed Stubby - it stops him before he gets started. We have a Governor now that stays in the state - even when things get tough. With Cullen, when ordered by the the union bosses, he'll be running for the border.

Stubby
Dec 4, 2011 at 3:10 p.m.
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I'm really surprised (although, on second though, sadly, not) that the "run to Illinois" thing is the only gripe people have. Look at his record! Even your beloved Governor Scooter likes the guy. You should be afraid of this candidate. I'll vote for you Tim!

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 4, 2011 at 1:40 p.m.
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Don't try to polish YKM, Anti. Word of advice. You'll be very disappointed.

packersfan1
Dec 4, 2011 at 12:27 p.m.
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What's Tim Cullen going to do if he's elected governor? Flee to Illinois if things don't go his way?
I hope the recall effort comes back to bite all the people who support it.
Teacher are just upset because they have to pay for health care like everyone else. What's more important getting the state out of debt, or the teachers having free health care? We all have to make sacrifices. Leave Walker alone. He's trying to get the state out of debt because Doyle wanted to spend like crazy. I know people have been protesting in front of his house, which is uncalled for. Get a life, people.

youkillme
Dec 4, 2011 at 12:22 p.m.
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Oh I see anti_clockwise, you're just raking through the muck hoping to find a turd you can polish up and present as gold.

RetiredAirForce
Dec 4, 2011 at 11:57 a.m.
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concern stated "that sure is funny, the news media recently reported that Illinois got 30,000 new jobs!"
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What news was that? The unemployment rate there has gone up every month since June...

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.il.htm

youkillme
Dec 4, 2011 at 11:36 a.m.
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anti-clockwise, that was right before the senators made the courageous decision to not be part of Walker's charade. Who knew what the end-game was? No one. But political game-player Walker knew Cullen "was not there for political reasons." Walker stated Cullen is not one of us, that "he's just trying to get something done." Cullen was working for the best interests of wisconsin. Can't say the same for Walker. Even Walker can't say the same for Walker.

Thinkfuture
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:29 a.m.
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On second thought, 916WI is probably right. Big business would probably reward an executive that brings a "company," struggling through a recession caused by financial executives, to the black on the backs of its hard-working employees--while considering no other sources of revenue (like the 1%)-- and pass the employee cost cuts on to the executives.
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Hmmm...this is exactly what has happened. Thanks for the clarification 916WI.
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We are blessed to live in a state that does not adhere to such immoral practices.
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Recall Walker. Elect the democratic Democrat Tim Cullen to Governor.

concernedperson
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.
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gpawcat, that sure is funny, the news media recently reported that Illinois got 30,000 new jobs!

oldtimer
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:02 a.m.
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He has a BIG ego problem, never worked a day in his life and i was stupid enough to voter for him. bad taste.

gbwbill
Dec 4, 2011 at 9:56 a.m.
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RECALL WALKER!

antireactionary
Dec 4, 2011 at 9:47 a.m.
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Thanks Tim for actually doing your job and representing everyone in Wisconsin and not just the Koche brothers.

orange
Dec 4, 2011 at 9:41 a.m.
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I would rather have Ross Perot for govenor than Walker. Anyone, Spanky, Buckwheat any of those gang members could do a better job.

gpawcat
Dec 4, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
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I personally care less who sits in the governors seat, governors come and go, life goes on. What will Cullen do for jobs?
More quotes from cat.
Illinois is one about two-dozen states interested in hosting a plant that will produce mini-excavators and small bulldozers. Caterpillar plans to move assembly of the machines to North America from a plant in Japan. The $150-million plant is expected to employ as many as 1,000 workers.

Dugan said. "There's a lack a of stability and predictability" in the state's business policies. (comment from cat on Illinois wants the jobs)

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-2011...

Robot_Lord_of_Tokyo
Dec 4, 2011 at 8:46 a.m.
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Sorry, Tim. No vote from me. I only vote for people who actually work. Hope you enjoyed your vacation at the Clock Tower Inn and in Freeport.

partyof4
Dec 4, 2011 at 8:42 a.m.
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They are already drying up. Walker gave money to Stoughton Trailers in Evansville and it appears they will already be closing their doors again at the end of January.

916WI
Dec 4, 2011 at 8:05 a.m.
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Thinkfuture--Your comment, "What would the business world do with an executive that creates such a divisive "business" climate? They would fire him." makes no sense. If any executive did what Walker did and brought his/her company from the red to the black while at the same time reigning in corrupt and entrenched labor unions, they wouldn't have been fired. They would have been given a bonus and had their contract extended for as long as they wanted it........

totellthetruth
Dec 4, 2011 at 7:22 a.m.
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Yes, just what we need, someone who knows how to take an oath to represent and then run from his problems. Just what we need a little girly-man Governor wearing a tutu who wont stand up for what he believes in.

Thinkfuture
Dec 4, 2011 at 7:19 a.m.
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It is a flawed thought to believe the radical government reforms initiated by Gov. Walker are good for job creation.
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In a recent recall-signing conversation with a local CFO, I asked the business manager "what is the most important economic element for investing in new hires and business expansion?' After some reflection, he said, "stable markets with predictable growth." I then asked, "Has Governor Walker achieved this?"
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Of course, the CFO thought public employees should contribute to controlling costs, but he acknowledged that Walker's radical ideas regarding collective bargaining and schools have made things unpredictable in our state.
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He signed my recall petitions.

gpawcat
Dec 4, 2011 at 7:17 a.m.
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Walker was doing the same thing Mitch Daniels did in Indiana in 2005, and Virgina back in the 90's. Look at the long term big picture. New jobs in Wisconsin will not only dry-up, companies will leave the state for a more stable environment. We shall see a year from now.

gpawcat
Dec 4, 2011 at 7:07 a.m.
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2011 job loss in Illinois. Brace yourself Wisconsin, this is our future. Thanks to recall.

Don't make any difference to me, I'm retired. But, my son is talking about moving, and he has a good job now!

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/24/illi...

Thinkfuture
Dec 4, 2011 at 6:57 a.m.
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The recall climate is the direct result of Walker's mismanagement. Trying to drive through the most radical labor reform of the last 50 years in one week is poor management.
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Thank God for Sen. Cullen and the Wisconsin 14 for giving voice to the hundreds of thousands shut out of the democratic process by the Radical Republicans.
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What would the business world do with an executive that creates such a divisive "business" climate? They would fire him. The People are doing this now through the recall.
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Sen. Cullen for Governor and for a more reasonable Wisconsin.

gpawcat
Dec 4, 2011 at 6:54 a.m.
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UAW says Governor Quinn needs to listen to Caterpillar. Cat doesn't bluff.

http://www.centralillinoisnewscenter.com...

Too bad for Illinois, the democratic governor and legislature didn't listen.

gpawcat
Dec 4, 2011 at 6:20 a.m.
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So looking down the road, how will Senator Cullen bring jobs to Wisconsin now that the recalls have made the business climate toxic?
As I said in a previous comment article, Caterpillar is moving 1000 jobs home from Japan, and threatening to leave Illinois with 23,000 jobs in that state. I don't know what state the jobs will go to, but I am certain it won't be Wisconsin. Caterpillar told governor Quinn in a letter last March.

"The direction that this state is headed in is not favorable to business and I'd like to work with you to change that."

Senator
Cullen may have a bigger job as governor than he realizes.
How will Wisconsin keep the jobs here from moving somewhere else?

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/art...

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Dec 4, 2011 at 1:32 a.m.
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Youre right it was, and I along with a mojority of people in his district are happy he did it.Dont agree? Recall him if you can.

Again maybe we could find anything else?Anything at all? Or 350 posts a day talking about Illinios! Great!

JohnDoe
Dec 4, 2011 at 12:39 a.m.
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"He kinda looked like a tool"....yep a "Craftsman."

jv93
Dec 3, 2011 at 11:16 p.m.
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Well...fleeing to Illinois was a pretty big deal. He kinda looked like a tool so I guess yeah people will talk about it.

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Dec 3, 2011 at 7:39 p.m.
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wow , what a shock the talking points surround illinois!! I cant believe it! Anything else? Anything?

concernedperson
Dec 3, 2011 at 7:20 p.m.
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I can't stand a governor who lies, cheats, and does everything in his power to put the poor and the working class citizens of our state into the dumpster. That is why the recall is happening. The 1%'s time has come to an end. It is time for the rest of those who don't understand or refuse to understand to open up their eyes and become informed.

THE RECALL IS HAPPENING. ABSOLUTELY.

Even the Gazette editorial staff understand this now. It was announced on last evening's news that they are supporting Sen. Cullen for governor, someone who can unite the people of our state.

Our state of Wisconsin can't wait. That is why people of the state are banding together in every village, town, city, and in every nook and cranny of our state to recall a governor who has chosen to be more like a dictator than a governor. The people would have worked with him had he chosen to work with us. But he didn't. He would not negotiate. How many times did he say that anyway?

Become informed, people. The recall is happening, no if's and's or but's about it.

Thinkfuture
Dec 3, 2011 at 7:17 p.m.
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Sen. Cullen is a great representative of the People and will make a great governor of our formerly fine state.
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The American Prosperity Tea Partiers will have a tough time finding dirt on this honorable man.
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Good Luck, Sen. Cullen. Thanks for your continued service.

riverrat006
Dec 3, 2011 at 6:57 p.m.
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Yeah he gets elected--can't find a way to work it out and the coward runs to Illinois. Now he want to run to be Govenor--hey Tim you can't run when you sit in the big chair. BTW your family money won't help!!!!!!!!!

usaret
Dec 3, 2011 at 6:21 p.m.
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Figures. He knows how to RUN.

poobah
Dec 3, 2011 at 5:05 p.m.
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You have my wholehearted support, Tim. Thanks for your years of service to the people of this state and I look forward to calling you Mr. Governor next year.

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