saxcat70 @ 8/18/11 - 2:12: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sounds like me! Give me a holler too! I can help make it go away.

also, Lemke10, a rule to sometimes live by. lose your money, just don't don't lose your name. fight

how about that guy who left the bar in the middle of the night going 70mph in town and ran into the house WITH LITTLE KIDS INSIDE. good point b8nksboy

"To all inebriated people drinking @ home" The City of Milton asks... that if you really need more beer late at night, to please drive into the heart of our city to get your beer! We just ask that you concern yourself with pedestrians on sidewalks, the Kwik Trip gas pumps, and the Milton House! Otherwise, c'mon down!!!

Milton kind of gives me the creeps. Sometimes, when I'm driving through, I feel like I'm driving through Stepford, CT.

"Ummm.....many things have been in place forever. That doesn't make them right."

So it should be changed NOW because ONE guy complains? and yells discrimination?

"And, just like you think alcohol should not be sold on Sundays because that's your mindset"

I did not say I agree with this I was ginving some examples of how others sell alcohol.

I have beer in the fridge just in case we have a guest who might like a beer. I hate beer. I guess I like being prepared.

Anyone know how to start the process to get Chesmore and crew recalled? Shame on them all! You can get beer at any bar until midnight. How can we trust them on any other issues in the future if this is how they behave? Let's have a vote on who thinks Chesmore is corrupt -- he's gonna lose. The whole bunch of new leadership in Milton apparently needs to be replaced as soon as possible. Shame, shame, shame! I hope the ACLU destroys them (but I hate to see the Milton taxpayers have to fund the consequences of their BS).

Frogger posts-It means BARS can sell beer until 12. He is not a bar. Why change these rules that have been in place forever? That is NOT DISCRIMINATION

Ummm.....many things have been in place forever. That doesn't make them right. Slavery...women not able to vote, just to name a few things that were the "norm" and thankfully, are not anymore. I know those are drastic comparisons, but if things always stay the same "because they have been that way forever"....you get the drift.

totellthetruth, you sound jealous. The guy has not been afraid to put his tail on the line in order to succeed as a small businessman. yes he's failed a few times, but he stuck to it, and i would have to believe he hit pay dirt here. I stop in there quite often, and have been very impressed with the way the business is run. (though his prices are a little steep) As for the story, it is my opinion that he got shafted. One of the established business didn't like the fact that he was successful and growing, and taking their business away. so they called someone they knew, who called someone they knew, and BAM! ordinance change. I bet chesmore gets discounts on his 12 packs at the pig. JMO

I'd love to see the city leaders defend this, but they can't. They apparently believe it's ok to drink after 9 pm in Milton, so long as you're at a bar or at least visit a bar to buy your beer. Dumb.

There is nothing wrong with adults buying beer after 9pm in Wisconsin, at a store or a bar. This is just our city council taking a little more freedom away, and hurting a business along the way.

If I had one, it would be my pleasure. I actually have had beer from one July 4 to the next. That's why I prefer to buy it "as needed", and that's not always something some of us can plan for-you never know when you might run into an old friend and want to have a couple while talking about old times. (If I started keeping it on hand at all times because I KNOW I'll need it, I think I'd start to worry that I might have a "habit".)

RUserious, if you need help with that 9 month old 12 pack, just give me a holler. It might not make 9 hours at my house.

Like I suggested, frogger, it was not until AFTER dinner and a movie that we decided (in this hypothetical case) to have a beer while playing cards or talking. Time management? Does that mean always having margarita ingredients in your home? Kinda tells me who I'm talking to. Why should I take up space in my fridge with a 12 pack of beer I might not drink for 9 months?
And, just like you think alcohol should not be sold on Sundays because that's your mindset, I do not like the atmosphere of a bar. That's MY mindset. (I know there are many different people who go to them, with many different personalities, so this is NOT an insult to those who know when to quit.)
And most importantly-you seem to forget-when this man got his license, and spent a huge sum of money on his cooler, he was allowed to sell after 9. They changed it AFTER he made these business decisions which were based on what they had been allowing him to do. Does this fall under your "time management", too?
But-yes-if it makes sense for one place to stop selling at 9, how does it NOT make sense for all to? And so it follows that if some establishments can sell til midnight, how does it make sense that disallowing a single business (that wishes to) will make the roads safer?

ru- if you need beer so what what do have against going into a bar for 5 minutes?
I agree that BARS shouldn't sell it either past 9 pm. People who are drunk at 12 really don't need more to take home wiht them.

Like I said we could be like TX and NO SALES on Sunday.
One community in TN Pigeon area. you can only get wine or beer in the restaurant. You need to go down to the next town to get booze.

IS this why we are know as number one or close to it as drunks driving cars?

"And frogger, what does your comment "Is he a bar??????NO." mean? So what? Do you buy all your ice cream from an ice cream stand that sells only ice cream"

It means BARS can sell beer until 12. He is not a bar. Why change these rules that have been in place forever? That is NOT DISCRIMINATION! It seems he should be special for what reason? NO you have come here to do business and you are going to obey the laws like everybody else.
Why is this so hard.
I don't know the guy and have against him doing business.

Like I said RU- do you help with time management??

browntown- it is like this in Janesville bars can sell until 12 and liquer stores close at 9 and can get outside the city limits at gas stations until 12.
1- he is in the city
2- he is not a bar
3- he is not a liquer store.
So all the liquer stores are discriminated against as well?????

Wow! First of all, I didn't know that bars were allowed to sell carryout beer after 9!! I thought they were trying to eliminate ALL Milton alcohol sales after 9PM. Now this decision makes even less sense (to me) than it did before!
I had commented on the earlier story that this decision would leave me (and others like me) at an inconvenience, also. The decision inconveniences the casual drinker more than it creates safer roads. As someone who has a rare drink but never drinks in bars, I'd feel discriminated against (just like Mr. Shaikh) if I came home from dinner and/or a movie at 9:20PM and felt like having a beer in the comfort of my own home, but didn't regularly have it on hand, (though frogger thought I was obligated to), and had no choice (because of this law) on the type of establishment I had to enter to purchase it.
Does the fact that I wish to purchase from a "store" rather than a bar make my trip home less safe for me and other drivers?
And on the other hand, does someone who is already intoxicated become safer when he purchases from a bar (already a more likely possibility) than from a convenience store?
All drinkers were not cut from the same cloth-this actually seems to be an ordinance that would affect casual drinkers more than the drinkers who will most certainly continue to make our roads dangerous.
And frogger, what does your comment "Is he a bar??????NO." mean? So what? Do you buy all your ice cream from an ice cream stand that sells only ice cream? Tell me...are you more likely to gain weight if you buy your ice cream from a convenience store?

This guy is lucky he's selling beer at all, when I attended Milton College many years ago the town of Milton was dry. To get a beer you had to drive a short distance to Milton Junction to the old Green Lantern and bottoms up there. Ah, the good old days!

"Intents and purposes" Not Intensive purposes

discriminated-oops

Frogger-do you seriously not see he is being discrimanated against?? If bars can sell it, he should be able to as well. Maybe your just being sarcastic???

bars can sell take out beer in Milton until midnight"

Is he a bar
??????
NO.

I hope Arnin shouts loud enough until he is heard.. I also agree that if the bars sell carry outs--- why not the Travel Center then. This man has run a top notch business since he took over this gas station. Keep fighting!

I'll be going out of my way to patronize the Milton Travel Center from here out. This is ridiculous.

It certainly seems like Mr. Shaikh was targeted. The Milton City Council committee's argument makes no sense to me and I'm sure others are left scratching their heads too. Milton 'officials' are big fish in a small pond and it sounds like they are inflating their power and importance ... typical small town politics.

In an effort to curb drunken driving the city of Milton, along with surrounding communities, require you to buy packaged beer AT A BAR between 9 PM and Midnight instead of a STORE.
Am I missing something????

On Tuesday, Chesmore chastised Shaikh for complaining to the media, accusing Shaikh of calling city officials "corrupt."

Well, quite frankly a lot of them are. And especially in Milton. It's the 'Good Ole Boy Club' in Milton. Shaikh has the right under the 1st Ammendment to openly voice his opinion to whom ever will listen. Whether I agree with him or not, it is his right.

And yes, they are corrupt in my mind. For all intensive purposes, the City of Milton did single him out. After all, bars can sell take out beer in Milton until midnight. Does this make it an 'unsafe community?' Shaikh has a descrimination law suit here, and it will be a big one if the ACLU gets involved or gets wind of it.

On the topic of carry out sales:

A C store owner or counter employee in a C store has a better chance of seeing whether or not someone is impaired before the beer sale is made, and can stop the sale. A lot of (and not all mind you) bar tenders are drinking on the job where good judgement is impaired.

Will they be the one to cut someone off who wants a beer carry out? Food for thought!

Thanks for letting me rant!

Just to put numbers in prospective, beer is normally marked up the minimum of 6% that the state requires because it's a very competative item. This guy brought a lawyer to the city meeting. Umm lawyers are not cheap and makes it look like you are hiding something. I hope Mr. Amin U. Shaikh will enjoy the wonderful bill he will get for around $5,000 for the Lawyer. To make up for that he will have to sell over $80,000 in beer to pay for his $5,000 attorney bill. Does Amin really think that he is losing over $80,000 in beer sales from 9 to midnight because I don't think so and I work in retail alcohol sales. This is just another classic example of a guy shooting off his mouth and not thinking things through while the lawyer is the only one that goes home a winner.

Wow, Milton rules against him out of vindictiveness. Terrible message to send to business and residents. Chesmore and the committee need to be booted out or grow up.

AGREED, badger2!

JK_Holman... uncalled for comments. Stir this pot just a bit more.
I actually had previously posted that... it is what it is...
Well, now I think he "got the shaft" by our small town execs... Seriously... what is the big deal? Yes, he has a lawsuit! Sue, dude! You were raked over THOSE COALS!!!

Milton always has the anti business mentality....especially with our current Mayor and council members.....all convienent stores should be allowed to sell... and the Public safety excuse is so lame!

What the article fails to mention is that you can still buy beer to carry out at the bars until midnight, so why not be able to buy it at a store until midnight?

City Administrator Jerry Schuetz on Tuesday told Shaikh the city capped retail beer sales at 9 p.m. because that matches the policy of most other area communities. He said it's intended to prevent the city from becoming an island of late-night beer sales.
Schuetz and other city officials have defended the change, saying it improves public safety by providing a consistent cutoff time for beer sales for all three local retailers

Ok so buying beer to take home and drink is not safer that going to a tavern until 2 AM and drinking?
I Wonder what planet these guys come from