Sorry I didn't get you my birth certificate. I was too busy KILLING OSAMA BIN LADEN.
Not that I'm an Obama fan, but it must be getting the Repubs in a lather that their half African/Half European liberal president nailed the bast.

Does POTUS' brother who lives in a hut in Kenya have a birth certificate? Actually, it is of little significance,I often wonder if POTUS gives a darn about him living in poverty in a tiny hut. So many questions about obummer and family, so few straight answers. If it was a GOP president, all of the questions would have been answered by the government run media long ago.

I have been staying away from the comments section lately, for my own sanity. When I come back and read through the comments, with a few exceptions, one question keeps going through my head. IS THERE ANY INTELLIGENT LIFE OUT THERE???

To be fair to the Lib/Dems, it's hard to know where your stupidity ends and evil begins! Columnist Burt Prelutsky

Beloit Daily News Editorial 04/29/11

"IT’S REALLY NOT difficult to understand why President Obama stubbornly resisted the release his long-form birth certificate. There’s something embarrassingly demeaning in being forced to respond to nuts."

Amen!

At this point who would ever believe that the BC he presented is real. Its obviously a fake. The reality is -- theres nothing about him thats real. Its all a fake -- just to such in the independents and middle road voters. The far left knows how far left he is and hes further left than most of them. This guy actually does more to destroy the American economy and wealth than anyone.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32440943/ns/...

I want to see a long form B. Cert for every one who runs from now on. Sure seems odd that it is such a big deal this time, could it be that our society has not rid itself of the prejudices it has had for hundreds of years?

totellthetruth...What are you talking about?The mothers ADDRESS is on the birth certificate.Mailing address is not filled in....just like mine isn't from the state of Wi.If you want to be right in the truth of what you say...Know what "totellthetruth" means and not to put a spin to your liking.

packolies
Can you clean up the language, please.

will the tea baggers ever give up.. in the end his mom was a citizen so it's automatic anyways..

The very fact that people are going to the town hall meetings that Ryan is holding, indicates that people are interested and want to know what is going on.
If you want to be angry at someone, direct it to potus.

Here something you can mull over:

Discovered: An UNLIMITED Obamacare Slush Fund

Just when we thought there were no more brazen audacities left to report about in Obamacare, here comes a doozy.

House Republicans have uncovered, tucked away in Section 1311(a) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), an UNLIMITED Obamacare implementation slush fund.

That's right. Unlimited.

An open tap on the US Treasury, this little gem -- discovered by Representative Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Energy & Commerce Committee -- can be used for anything the President wants to spend taxpayer money on, under the guise of "actitivites related to establishing" Obamacare health benefit exchanges.

Here's the relevant legal language from 1311(a):

(1) PLANNING AND ESTABLISHMENT GRANTS.—There shall be appropriated to the Secretary, out of any moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, an amount necessary to enable the Secretary to make awards, not later than 1 year after enactment of this Act, to States in amounts specified in paragraph (2) for the uses described in paragraph (3).

(2) AMOUNT SPECIFIED.—For each fiscal year, the Secretary shall determine the total amount that the Secretary will make available to each State for grants under this subsection.

(3) USE OF FUNDS.—A State shall use amounts awarded under this subsection for activities (including planning activities) related to establishing an American Health Benefit Exchange, as described in subsection (b).

. . .

(4)(B).-- “No grant shall be awarded under this subsection after January 1, 2015.”

While this language thankfully shuts down the slush fund in 2015, it provides absolutely no limit on how much can be spent before then, and only the vaguest guidance on how it's spent. It's so vague, in fact, that any determined socialist could sail an ocean liner through it.

And he is.

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-cl...

Thanks for your permission. Another assumption of a right that you have bestowed upon yourself.

I don't mind if you continue with your inane comments, after all THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

actually, wislady, you have quite a long history for us to see. Would that you had had the sense to stop at one brief comment!!

markr

Wow, all that from my brief comment.

Totell...OK, so you know one person who said "he's like a god." But wislady's comment says that "his followers" (NOT "one of his followers" or "some of his followers", but "his followers"). Her claim is that if someone supports the President we also worship him religiously, which is both remarkably stupid, and very, very dishonest. Maybe neocons cannot untie the ideas of respect for a political position and unbridled religious worship of political figures, but we on the left certainly can, and do. There is no feeling of reverence to accompany my feeling of respect for him. Wislady just likes to bring her irrationality and hysterical propensities to the forefront.

Nothing is still fishy. There are two "certified" copies of his birth certificate. Give it up, once and for all. The country needs to concentrate on more important things, like the crappy Ryan bill.

Nothing is still fishy. There are two "certified" copies of his birth certificate. Give it up, once and for all. The country needs to concentrate on more important things, like the crappy Ryan bill.

Is Trump finally going to give up the birther issue now? Oh, he's starting in on another issue, Obama's Harvard Law Review issue? I wonder how many other issues Trump has. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes next. It is enjoyable watching the circus.

It is the truth, potus has failed miserably as a leader.

So, then, wislady, if you disdain the dishonesty so much, (and rightly so) why do you continue to want to contribute to it?

markr

The world hears dishonesty every time there is a press conference at the WH.

All this silliness (started by H Clinton) has been convenient for potus. He loves it when people are drawn away from what is really happening in the world, and he doesn't have to address any of the issues. He would much rather be on Tv, campaigning, or golfing.
Then, when he has to face the issues, he stands at the podium and points his finger at everyone...except himself.

wislady--I know many Obama supporters, but not one who believes that he can part the waters. This confirms my belief in the consistent dishonesty of your comments.

Q: "Oh, what will Donald Trump rant about now?"

A: How he managed to get into Harvard.

Reagan may have been great, but he was nothing more than a frontman(puppet). Unfortunate because I think his heart was in it before his brain went. There is a video clip where his Chief of staff tells him "wrap it up". Again it seems to me that he was severely affected by Alzhiemers disease as early as 1983.
Obama's legacy has yet to be determined, IMO. While I am personally disappointed in him thus far, I feel he inherited the nation in about the worst shape its EVER been in. Then of course he is to blame IMMEDIATELY by his opponents and everyone else for 30+ years of bad economic policy. Is it really his fault that it all came crashing down just befor he took office? Problem for me is that he has propigated NOTHING to change the BS that got us here. Ontop of the fact that he faces a nation that is largely racist and prejudice and looking for a reason to see him fail.
What Obama has going for him is the republicans have not fielded ONE candidate worth voting for. EVERY single one of them has issues. The only reasonable one(to me) seems boring and not attracting any attention, is Tim Pawlenty. He speaks in a lot of hyperbole, but is far more intelligent than the rest(except Newt) , and seems to be likable. A campaign between him and the president would at least be intellectually stimulating. Any of the others would just be an enormous waste of money and be a 3 ring circus.

Obama is the best President since JFK. Reagan was the biggest joke.

I would agree with RAF and others who point out that Hilary was the first to bring up the issue, look where it got her. That is why I don't understand why Obama even released this. If I were him I would have let them continue to run with this trash. Total non-issue and very desparate opponents look silly in their pursuit of this one. partisan or not this is the dumbest attack on a president, ever! I believe it to be racially motivated.
Remember GWB was a dry drunk, and a former cocaine usert, and there were far fewer questions asked about that. Bill Clinton was an accused RAPIST and that went almost unnoticed. Why is this issue even a news story? i honestly believe this country is inherantly racist in general. Not everyone, but many certainly are, whether they admit it or not. look at the church story now getting run on Fox AGAIN!! While I am VERY disappointed with Obama as a president, his church or his "citizenship" should NOT be issues here. BTW if some think I am being quick to play the racist card here, tell me how the 25% of the nation STLL believes he is a "closet Muslim". Wouldnt that be racism? I think so.

prounion

Why not, indeed. His followers believe he can part the waters.

markr I pick out positions and issues all the time. I don't hide behind anything when I do. In this case, one I have said before is a non-issue, pointing out where this issue arose is relevant; in direct relation to the hysteria involved in many of those castigating positions currently.

Wislady,right on - why didn't Obama stop those storms instead of issuing his birth cert?

I haven't read all of the comments, so if this has already been hashed over, I apologize.

How much did it cost for a staffer to fly to pick up the paperwork - wouldn't $5.40 USPS priority gotten it there?

How conveniently the democrats have forgotten who started the BC issue(Hillary).

Obama must have FINALLY answered the 3AM phone call and realized that people have been killed last week and again last night with the storms. Hopefully, he will use the bully pulpit for something other than "silliness" and distraction, instead of discussing what is going on in the world. I hope this disaster doesn't cut into his campaigning too much.

LOL. You righties, you slay me. Some people can't see past their own noses. Hillary Clinton did not bring up Obama's birth certificate, her supporters did through some anonymous emails. In fact it started in 2004, in Illinois when a fellow "candidate" claimed that Obama was a secret Muslim. Facts? Get them straight. So one commentator that wasn't on the Fox News pay wagon was interested in Obama's birth certificate, call Tom Brokaw.

He's an American citizen. Get over it. Your President is African American, grow up and deal with it.

But thank you for the name calling.... it always makes me feel good to see people shoe their true intellect.

Sorry, MSNBC.... And I have been watching him these past few weeks go on ad nauseum about this.

an interesting twist on the story...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-u...

uncle,
Considering Matthews
1. does not broadcast on CNBC
2. showed the document on TV 1+ years ago, MOCKING the birther group
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You are either
1. LYING
2. an idiot
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Ignorance is BLISS!

Lots of people keep pointing out that the GOP were the only ones after this birth certificate. Good Ol' Chris Matthews on CNBC has spent countless hours calling for the release of this document. As a matter of fact, CNBC has spent more time on this subject than any other news network. Kinda makes ya wonder who really was behind all the fuss. It made a great smokescreen to hide behind while other important issues went unmentioned. I applaud the great diversion it made.

whzbng,
thank you Shaun Hannity.

Obama makes Jimmy Carter very happy. Carter will no longer be known as our worst president.

MDCCLXXVI
Apr 27, 2011 at 4:35 p.m.
Suggest removal
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GREAT POST!
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What needs to happen is a national movement, national advertisement campaign that makes it known that it is UNAMERICAN and UNPATRIOTIC for American companies to produce their products overseas.
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We, as the consumers, need to unite and send that message than MADE IN CHINA is no longer acceptable. Slave labor is no longer something we will support.
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We spend BILLIONS of dollars to remove dictators yet refuse to spend extra $$ on clothes, toys, TVs, etc...
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I recently purchased my first pair of 100% made in USA jeans. I had to search online to find them and that is sickening.
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saveourcountryfirst.com
allamericanclothing.com
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Start here!
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The movement is starting...Ed Schultz has done numerous specials on this topic. The movement needs to grow and should include EVERYONE!
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There is no reason that multi-million dollar companies can't afford American workers.
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BUY MADE IN THE USA

No doubt the birthers will nowtake the high ground admit they were wrong and move on?

Yeah, that was your motive RAF. You never pick sides.

Obama the best leader ever- King Obama, if you don't think so you're either greedy or haven't focussed on his message- poor comprehension.

King Obama, doing a perfect job, the best President, really. The regulator for equality in quality of life so all can enjoy this bounty earth, as was intended. In an age old inadequate, wealth pyramid, social structure. The Dark Ages with automobiles. Penalties to sweep the streets of the unemployed due to a forever lack of jobs, human trafficking-stock market penal system, people!! Sex, illegal plants, guns- conflict to make the inadequate society, with all its vested wealthy keep working smoothly and in their generational favor. Buisnessmen at the table in Gov., we can start by disqualifying them as Thomas Jefferson spoke of the common man, the middle or lower class worker placed in the halls of Gov.. A cronied, conflict of interest type Gov. since man began. King Obama, a constitutional professor, trying to set this Gov. back to what was intended by it's own creed, the status quo sure don't want that. King Obama hacking away at the generational pyramid scheme. King Obama, yes sir.

markr since when does pointing out facts absolve either side?

Who cares about the BC, he is still incompetent.

I cant believe that people still support this idiot.

Oh -- and lets not forget that he is still in continous campaign mode..... so all those campaign trips should be counted as vacation as well. Most of his trips and speeches, coffee table discussions etc... are a total waste of time. Nobody is buying his dribble anymore.

theone -- since you've clearly done your homework and know so much, please just answer the question. Why didn't he just release the paper two years ago and avoid all the controversy?

NOBODY has forgotten that RAF. You are, again, trying to absolve all of your neocon buddies from the blame. Hillary mentioned it...the teabagger crazies ran with it, beat it to near-death, but wouldn't allow it to die. The right-wing nut-jobs have kept it going...nobody else, no matter how you try to frame it in favor of those with whom you side.

from now on all the "birthers" will now be known as "afterbirthers"

falmouthfun and others,

You have VERY CONVENIENTLY forgotten that George W Bush, a man who started two wars and often called himself a "War President" took MORE VACATION TIME THAN ANY OTHE PRESIDENT, EVER.

Obama: 93 days in 2 years...
W: 1020 days, more than 1/3rd of his presidency, in 8 years
Clinton: 152 days in 8 years
Bush Sr.: 543 days in 4 years (apple didn't fall far from the tree)
Reagan: 335 days in 8 years
Carter: 79 days in 4 years

If Obama blows off a little steam with college hoops picks, big deal. Get over yourselves. It is a LIE that Obama is always on vacation and you know what they say about LIARS......

Interesting all has forgotten who brought up the idea of his birth cert first...it was not anyone on the right, it was those from his own party that thought this was an issue.

The amount of stupid people in this world are staggering. This topic got 85 posts? As Koch Bros would say....BEAUTIFUL!
If I were the president I would never have released this, I would just let the section of the GOP that was running with this crap hang themselves.
Hey righties, Donald Trump is leading in Iowa! Followed closely by Sarah Palin,and Michelle Bachmann? While I am SUPREMELY disappointed in Obama, he is a million times better and smarter than Bush. The republicans need some better cnadidates, or Obama will be re-elected in a landslide. Mitt, Newt whos gonna run? Paul Ryan hung himself with his "path to prosperity", he gets killed in a general because of his Medicare and SS ideas. I give him honesty points, but Americans are OVERWHELMINGLY opposed to the changes he suggests. If repubs run on his plan they will be SOUNDLY defeated. Oh ya did I mention Ryan wants to protect BIG OIL subsidies? that will go over well. I hope that the repubs can come up with a formidable candidate. Is there a right-wing Obama, that will come out of nowhere? Doubtful, not impossible, but doubtful.

It is far too much to ask that merely viewing a document will cure mental illness.

The media is full of this extreme credulity. Everywhere I turn someone else is bring up yet another fact supporting citizenship.
What we need is more conjecture and innuendo.

I_C_Y, I wasn't looking for any word, actually. And no, I don't think the reason Americans were asking for a birth certificate in the 19th century had anything to do with race... but I would say, without a doubt, although completely unrelated, they were racist then too. Our country was founded by racist people and ideas (well, actually they were also sexist and classists). "White, landowning men" and all.

2012? Lol, have you seen the republican candidates so far? Trump? Bachmann? Huckabee? Palin? ROTFL, as they say. Romney can't win because his healthcare plan actually worked, Repubs don't like that. Not that it matter much who wins. If McCain had one, we'd be in the same spot or worse. You birthers, ya'll are good for a laugh though. Thanks.

totellthetruth....As my grandpappy used to say, "You're as crazy as an outhouse rat!"

TroubleMaker...pull your head out of the sand and do your homework.

The question you asked has been asked and answered many times before.

If it's a valid birth certificate and not something created just recently, why didn't the president release it two years ago? Something is still fishy.

You "birthers" gave us all a good laugh.

It was fun while it lasted.

See you all on November 6,2012

Seriously people, the man-child finally releases his birth certificate, and he is hailed once again as "the one" some idiots are still bowing to. You've got to be kidding me. This sorry excuse for a man should have done it long before now. He has no time for "silliness", then jets over to tape a show with Oprah and Moochell,. He always has time for hoops, vacations, etc. What the hell...the country can wait! He's just loving doing all of it on our dime. 2012 can't come soon enough.

haveconcerns Apr 27, 2011 at 7:23 p.m.
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I believe the word you are looking for is “Caucasian”, as in the race of Obama’s mother.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/2...
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So, by your thinking, in 1880 when Americans wanted to see Chester A. Arthur’s birth certificate, they were racist as well somehow? Please explain how that works?

Kaysbrew, that you would even say, "purple or pink" shows how racist you truly are. I know you probably won't get this, but I'm going to try anyway. The "race card" if indeed it is a card, is at best a 2 of spades. If anyone tried to "play" it, it is quickly trumped by the white privilege "ace" you so proudly (albeit blindly) display every second of your life.
Although race is a social construct and has no biological basis; culturally it is a fact. Making up pretend race colors is a pathetic attempt by racist people to invalidate the real issues of race in our country.
My guess is you don't even know how racist you are. That ignorance is what keeps racism alive.

A wise post master Gandalf. Good luck with that Balrog.

Which Republican would Obama like to face off against in 2012? Trump. Releasing the document and making Trump look like a genius was well played by the President.

Congressman Paul Ryan's Schedule this week: 8 town halls to address the fiscal crisis. President Obama's Schedule this week: Easter Egg Roll, Oprah Taping, 3 DNC Fundraisers, Auburn University BCS Champ Ceremony, Space Launch, and a Commencement speech

MDC...I agree with everything you say and admittedly do not offer a simple solution. There is none. I'm not sure which scenario really allows us to keep control of our economy either???

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But, kay...doesn't purple run afoul of the Falwell-stated hatred of those baggie-bagger Teletubbies? :-) Can't want THAT, now, do we?

Besides - purple or blue may be real change and much better at being president - like a smurf and a dinosaur. Both have better qualifications.

holbachsnature: so what's the alternative? Supply-side and demand-side economics, as preached by the right and left, respectively, both assume a free market in a closed system. Neither actually exists. It doesn't matter which side you dump money into, either way it immediately leaves the economy. You give tax breaks to one side to create jobs, and they do: in China. You give money to the other side to create demand, and it does: for Chinese products. The only realistic solution is to remove the incentive to export jobs.
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Yes, that will mean that the standard of living will go down, but is there any scenario in which it doesn't? We haven't paid American wages for American products for decades because our economy has always relied on exploitation. That's not a judgment, just an observation. Eventually, however, the people we exploit either get sick of it, get a better offer, or accumulate enough wealth that they begin to compete with us for resources. Our relationship with China in particular is, by design, one way. Money goes in but never comes back out.
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We're addicted to cheap labor, but like any other addiction, it will kill us unless we give it up. This isn't politics, it's just math. It doesn't matter what we claim to believe, we vote every time we go to Walmart (again- not a judgment. Most products today can't be purchased from a domestic manufacturer even if you tried).
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We can have jobs, here, today. But it means no more cheap products. If you have a solution that creates jobs at a real living wage that doesn't require significant belt-tightening by every single American then please, let us know. I certainly can't think of one.
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To put it another way: barring the discovery of a new group of people to exploit, a lower standard of living is an inevitability. The question is simply on whose terms. I prefer the scenario that allows us to retain control of our economy.

Red or yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Just not pink - o

Well, this re-asserts that anyone who thinks President Obama wasn't born in Hawaii is completely retarded.

kaysbrew states that she wants a purple or blue president, and then she calls other people crazy! Gotta love those right-thinking neocons.

Koch_Bros
post is a baiter baggie alert for the sane people.

Why did it take so long? Did it serve America witholding this document?

Will Trump now produce a copy of his IQ test to prove he is not a complete idiot?

great job LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42775820

John McCains' birth certificate was also questioned when he ran in 08. He was born in Panama while his father was serving there. If you are a US citizen who births abroad your child is deemed to be a US citizen. As was Obamas' mother. The question should be what is a natural boen citizen???

makr - you would think so -being a baggie - but the liberals will be on the run looking for reasons to dislike Herman Cain without - oh dare I say - being called racist. We aren't out of arguement so we won't need to resort to that level of stupidity.

Oh, by the way, somebody mentioned tariffs and Madame Pampadours' willingness to enact them against Chinese imports...pick up a history book...or maybe just put one under your pillow and hope....tariffs have failed, failed historically and repeatedly and miserably

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Secondly, tariffs are not supported by most American manufacturers because so much of their production happens over-seas. The business lobby and pro-business candidates and pols (and remarkably the middle and lower class working people who support them) will never support a vote to tax their own imports

gee, kaysbrew, I'm afraid I just don't believe you. I don't think you are telling the truth. I must have missed all of your posts that show your liberal side. I gotta tell you, also...the "ee" is a WHOLE lot better than the "er"

I_C-Y===Who's the dullard here? Do you really insist that this was the same burning issue for 118 years as it has been recently in Mr. Obama's case? Please don't be a complete nitwit. You're beginning to sound like kaysbrew

makr - if only you knew how racist and ridiculous you look as this site's baiter baggie. I'm in the mood for a great president white or black or purple or blue - just not pink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7354AsuL...

Capitalist corporations will always seek the lowest cost of manufacturing and operations. That's their mission, their purpose, they don't hide from that fact nor should they. They will look you in the eye and tell you honesty, "Profit is not a dirty word."

Jobs are lost when American manufacturers move operations to places where doing business is less expensive. Free-trade economics says that they should be "free" to do just that.

If we lower the standard of living of American workers, as I stated in my previous post, American corporations will have incentive to stay in America.

But remember common-folk conservatives, that means you too. The right-wing candidates who you support very likely think you get paid too much and that you recieve far too many basic tax-funded services. They think we all do. Unless of course one of them has figured out a way to lower the wages and limit the services of just us pinko, commies...

markr Apr 27, 2011 at 2:40 p.m.
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Sir, you are either obtuse, or a dullard.
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… "It's an old rumor that won't die,
…. But the legend lingers, like a salacious rumor too juicy not to repeat.
…. In 1998, the Ottawa (Ont.) Citizen newspaper published a story asserting Arthur was born in his grandparents' home in Dunham but "probably" appropriated the birth records of the dead brother.
(http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ss...)
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I will assist you with the math; Since it was documented for Presidential run in 1880, and a newspaper published a story about it in 1998.
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Since when is 118 years immediate?

What the Trump crowd either doesn't understand or refuses to admit, is that the only way to make America competitive with countries like China is to lower the standard of living of American working families.

Eliminating organized labor, eliminating basic social services, eliminating minimun wage protections, loosening regulatory requirments on environmental impact, workers safety and product safety, all of these things will work to make America more competitive... They will also work to make American Companies more profitable... They will also work to lower the aggregate standard of living.

Corporate America is absolutely working towards making America more competitive. The Tea-Party believes in making America more competitive. Most people who associate themselves with the aforementioned policies of free-trade economics believe that those policies will make America more competitive.

Corporate supporters of these policies don't want us to know the truth

Common folk, working people, who support these policies either don't understand their ultimate goal and impact or will be happy with a Chinese standard of living.

kaysbrew--I guess you can try to blame your racism on me if it makes it easier for you to look in the mirror, but I'nm not really the one "whin"ing here.

see, ICI, perhaps if you had read my post a little more carefully, what I was asking was NOT if it had ever happened before, but if it had gone on for so long, with so much vitriol and animosity. So, if YOU had done one minute's research, you would have discovered that the furor over Arthur's status died down almost as quickly as it had erupted.

mouse - don't you think Hilary checked all this out in the primary? Obama is at fault for the lingering questions with his inability to submit the document. It's done, and in a first - we agree - they should move on.

Even this will not shut the idiots up. When you are a man of mixed race, with the middle name of Hussein, who loonies believe is a Muslim, you will be under attack by the racist fringe until your service to your nation is over.

my oh my makr - you sound just like mouse. Spit racism and whin about getting caught
So much for your intelligence as the ultimate race baiter

"We helped Iran get democracy" - c'mon winterstinks, you can't just make stuff up! Especially stuff that is actually the exact opposite from the truth. The USA intervened to overthrow the only democratically elected govt. in Iranian history and replaced it with a bloody dictator (aka The Shah)

Protectionist tariffs are, believe it or not, against conservative economic policy. You can't have it both ways. Not too many "free-trade protectionists" out there. The terms are inherently mutually exclusive.

Prominent people are coming forward to attest to Obama's Anerican citizenship. 'The Governor of Hawaii just said he first met Obama just days after he was born. He knew it was Obama, because he kept pointing to his diaper and calling for change." Conan O'Brien

markr Apr 27, 2011 at 1:21 p.m.
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Perhaps if you did just one minute of searching you would find:
Chester A. Arthur - 21st president
The focus on his place of birth became an issue in the 1880 presidential campaign, when Arthur was tapped to be the running mate for Garfield.
According to historical accounts, Republican bosses wanted him to provide proof of his birthplace, but he never did.
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ss...
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Ahh, but there’s more…
historian Greg Dehler, author of "Chester Allan Arthur", Published by Nova Science Publishers, Incorporated, 2006 ISBN 1600210791, 9781600210792 192 pages. ]
I’ve been forwarded the actual naturalization record for William Arthur on microfiche, obtained from the Library of Congress. He was naturalized in New York State and became a United States citizen in August 1843.
Chester Arthur perpetrated a fraud as to his eligibility to be Vice President by spreading various lies about his parents’ heritage. President Arthur’s father, William Arthur, became a United States citizen in August 1843. But Chester Arthur was born in 1829. Therefore, he was a British Citizen by descent, and a dual citizen at birth, if not his whole life.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/...
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So you see, the US has previously had one usurper for President.

kaysbrew--If you don't have anything intelligent to say--and you don't, not ever--then why do you say anything at all? You don't contibute anything but racial hatred, and then you cry when called on it.

westorbust
http://hermancain.com/

play the race card now birther

It won't stop the winguts from ignoring the facts. I don't see the point in releasing it. Obama was certified to run for President, just like any other president, and his mother was American. Furthermore, there is no hard and fast rule as to what "natural born citizen" means, so it matters little to me. Just a distraction from the racist religo-fascist crowd to muddy the waters enough to get their goofy beliefs on TV.

markr -tea baggie
How are you going to cry racism when Herman Cain becomes our next President?
Grow up and quit playing the race card - you sound like a birther.

lol Bond.
Unfortunately, it's a copy. You'd have to send Abby to HI to test the original document (and test the ink, or else they'd claim it was someone else's cert., altered).

I've never understood why it matters. That rule was written in an era that saw royal families marrying for political reasons- so the King of one country was a guy who had never even been there, but married into the job, or was next in like because his aunt had married a duke at one point. So you had Frenchmen running England from Germany (or what we now call the regions in question). It's understandably annoying, or it was back then, but it's not exactly a pressing issue here, today.

Also, Trump? Really? The only thing I can think of that would be more absurd would be fictional characters. I wonder how many votes John Galt would get...

That said, I actually do agree with winterstinks about the what, just not the who. Tarriffs are the only way to rescue what's left of our ecconomy. Of course, that would have the exact opposite effect on prices(they would go up, not down, winterstinks), but whatever.

Can any of you who defend this ridiculous nonsense please inform the rest of us which other Presidents have had to face the demand by the opposition to prove their citizenship, and their birth records, as Mr. Obama has? This was NEVER about whether or not Mr. Obama was a born and certified American. It was simply about the teabaggers being eager to put up another childish obstacle to making America better. They hate black people and never tire of acting like three-year old children in their quest to prove their hatred for diversity, and for America. They may love an idea they have about America, but they certainly DO NOT love America.

winter and ezoner,
He released the form you receive in Hawaii if you ask for a birth certificate. it is the ONLY RECOGNIZED OFFICAL from in Hawaii. It is the form needed to get you a passport.
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Those that promoted this did it to get the racist haters motivated enough to vote. It didn't work in 2008 but did in 2010.
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Anyone with 1/2 a brain knew this was a non-issue years ago. Unfortunately the most watched cable news channel fed the lies. I guarantee this will be "questioned" by fox news within 36 hours.
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Heck, go on the foxnews website and read the comments. Most still do not believe this. Perhaps that is why he didn't release it earlier.

Is it real?...Send it to Abby at NCIS to see if it is printed on paper made from 1961 or from paper made from 2008-2011!

Perfect description of Trump....a carnival barker! What gets me is that he questioned whether Gary Busey was a genius or not on The Apprentice but then questions Obama's entry into Ivy League schools. Trump is simply a distraction. The Republicans don't want us to see what they are really doing.

Well, now the imbeciles who questioned the President's citizenship, even though it has been PROVEN several times before, will have to find another lie to attach themselves to. There WILL be another lie, because when someone hates black people the way these teabaggers hate Mr. Obama, they HAVE to lie. It's the only way they can feel superior.

Why did he wait so long -- because of this delay -- he does nothing but bring comments like:

1) Is it real
2) what was he hiding
3) If it was real and legit -- then why the delay
4) He should have and could have taken care of this in 2008.

The reality is that he brings some things on himself because of his arrogance.

916WI,
What does President Obama's birth certificate have to do with anything?

billnewbie,
Man you are pathetic. This crap is not President Obama's fault. This is republican radio and republican cable news (FOX) and the IDIOTS that believe the crap (my own mother included).
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President Obama released the form needed to get a passport. CNN did an entire story on it Monday and Tuesday night. They interviewed the joke, Donald Trump. In addition, they went to Hawaii and investigated this story.
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I give CNN much more credit for this decision by our president than I do, the joke, Donald Trump.
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President Obama, our first black president, has been held to a higher standard from day one. This attempt by the right wing, republican conservatives to convince people he is not a US citizen is motivated by racism. There is NO OTHER EXCUSE for this crap. If you listen to the people who bought into it they are racist. They HATE our president. They don't hate because of his policies they hate because he is black.
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The republicans don't believe these racists are they mainstream $$ supporter but if you can get them to vote it could mean a W vs. a L.
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Racism is very motivating.
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BTW, I doubt this ends it. I guarantee that in the next 3 days Fox News questions if the document released is legit. Rush, Palin, Beck, Trump will hint that they still have "questions".

916WI, good point.

I propose a new Presidential Silliness Comission comprised of a Blue Panel of expert, unsilly people to put forward ideas to eliminate silliness in Government until just after the election. I didn't get a hurumph from that guy!

If Barack Obama must provide a birth certificate to prove his eligibility to run for office, then so too should every other candidate. The fact is that the birther's don't give a wit about Obama's birth certificate, they never have. They can't come to grips with the reality that America doesn't necessarily share their complexion anymore. Many of these birthers are the same folks who were ready to change the constitution when the "Governator" was thinking about running for prez.

Kaysbrew, he held a press conference to address an issue that you tea-baggers insisted he address. When he finally relents to your ridiculousness, you chatise him for talking about something that you insisted he talk about...like I said, birthers don't care about the birth certificate. They're just throwing a tantrum.

gary.....What would Trump's birth certificate have to do with anything?

Yes, this "controversy" was silly. Yet, if Obama had released this form 2 1/2 years ago when this silliness first hit the news, instead of pretending it's nobody's business, then we wouldn't have had this distraction at all. Presidential candidates have almost no privacy. Mr. Obama should know that. He was silly not to dispel this silliness by releasing this form when the silliness first appeared.

Sooo, he holds a press conference where there are no questions to say this is silly but doesn't address Libya, the debt, gas, weak dollar, etc etc. flings off for fund raisers and we're silly? Why doesn't he go join his SEIU buddies in one of the 17 cities where they are not taking their Wisconsin thug show on the road. Hope the independents are paying attention to their dwindling pocket books and their dwindling liberties.

Where is Donald Trump's birth certificate?

Obama releases birth form, decries silliness'..Quote; we're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers he said. Then the Carnival Barker himself proceeds to tell everyone he is going to Chicago to tape a sideshow with Oprah! ROFLMAO.....

The sad thing is that if he were white, it never would have been an issue. Oh, what will Donald Trump rant about now?