Lawmakers get earful at state budget hearing
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ROCK TOWNSHIP Jennifer Wenzel is a mother of three boys, and she uses Janesville city buses to get to wherever she needs to go.
“I use the bus for things that other people use their minivans for,” she told a handful of state lawmakers at Blackhawk Technical College on Wednesday.
But that system is threatened by cuts in the proposed state budget and other moves by Gov. Scott Walker.
“No one would propose to take cars or roads away. That would be ridiculous. And these proposals that would cut public transportation are just as ridiculous,” she said.
Janesville Transit Director Dave Mumma was one of several speakers who sided with Wenzel.
Mumma said Janesville could eventually see “skeleton service” and fares higher than many can afford.
Wenzel was one of dozens of people who took their budget concerns to legislators at a five-hour hearing.
Democratic legislators arranged the unofficial hearing, one of several around the state, because, they said, the official hearings were limited.
Local Republican lawmakers were invited. None appeared in the first half of the meeting.
Wenzel was in the minority among those who spoke. Most were local elected officials or administrators who objected to proposed state-aid cuts.
The audience averaged about 100 in the first 2.5 hours of the hearing. Only one person spoke in support of the budget proposal during that time.
Rock County Sheriff Bob Spoden said cuts in state aid might lead smaller communities to close or cut their police departments, leaving the job to sheriff’s deputies, but sheriff’s offices also are facing “severe cutbacks.”
The result could be only high-priority calls being answered and longer response times, Spoden said.
Ruth Whitehorse Burns of McFarland spoke in favor of a number of Walker’s moves.
Burns said the people who have lost their jobs and their health insurance should be weighed against the benefits that public employees get.
“You’re asking taxpayers who has to pay $1,200 a month out of pocket for their health insurance to pay more into the civil service,” she said.
“We’ve got to stop this spending now because we can’t maintain what we’ve got,” she said.
Burns said if Rock County communities need police help, they should call the Madison police, who she said had done nothing during recent demonstrations at the Capitol.
Groans and jeers broke out at that point, and someone tapped a gavel.
Sen. Bob Jauch, D-Poplar, admonished the crowd, saying they should give the same respect to people they disagree with as those they agree with.
Among other speakers:
-- Rock County District Attorney David O’Leary said the state is laying off 20 percent of the assistant district attorneys statewide, effective May 8, “which means, in effect, that the Rock County District Attorney’s office will be shut down one day a week effective May 8.”
O’Leary also complained about cuts in services such as treatment for the mentally ill and drug abusers, which increases pressure on the justice system, he said.
“I’m treating mentally ill individuals with a sledge hammer by locking them up in the jail or the prisons because we can’t get someone to make sure they’re getting their medication and being treated,” O’Leary said.
-- Janesville schools Superintendent Karen Schulte asked lawmakers to fix the state school funding system, which penalizes school districts that hold back from taxing to the maximum allowed, as Janesville has done.
-- Clinton schools Superintendent Randy Refsland said his district had been fiscally conservative but now faces cutting 13 to 16 teaching positions because the “tools” that Walker has offered local governments to balance their budgets in the face of aid cuts are not working.
-- Beloit Turner schools Superintendent Dennis McCarthy said the governor was balancing his budget on the backs of school employees. He said the governor offers the flexibility to impose merit pay on teachers, but “educators do not educate to get paid more. They do it because it’s their passion.”
Meanwhile, the costs of health insurance and heat go up.
“We’re in desperate times right now,” McCarthy said. “We need your help.”

Apr 26, 2011 at 3:16 p.m.
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Poor litte TeaPublicans. They so easily forget the history of some of "social" and "fiscal" actions of some Republican presidents:
Lincoln:
promoted the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, abolishing slavery.
Roosevelt: Attempted to move the Republican Party in the direction of Progressivism, including trust busting and increased regulation of businesses. Roosevelt coined the phrase "Square Deal" to describe his domestic agenda, emphasizing that the average citizen would get a fair share under his policies. He was a moderate conservative who continued the New Deal policies, and in fact enlarged the scope of Social Security, and signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. Though passive on civil rights at first, he sent federal troops to enforce the Supreme Court's ruling to desegregate schools.
Eisenhower:
One of Eisenhower's enduring achievements was championing and signing the bill that authorized the Interstate Highway System in 1956. The Eisenhower administration declared racial discrimination a national security issue, and he proposed to Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and signed those acts into law.He proposed to Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and signed those acts into law.
Reagan:
Congress passed and Reagan signed into law tax increases of some nature in every year from 1981 to 1987 to continue funding such government programs as TEFRA, Social Security, and the Deficit Reduction Act of 1984. Despite the fact that TEFRA was the "largest peacetime tax increase in American history," Reagan is better known for his tax cuts and lower-taxes philosophy.
This is by no means meant to portray everything that occured in thes administrations, but these are undeniably major social initiatives. I also ask you to consider that the country had the most prosperity during the Eisenhower years, then also the Reagan and Clinton years. Coincidence?
Apr 22, 2011 at 9:07 p.m.
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Just curious, Totellthetruth, what is your definition of a communist state?
Apr 22, 2011 at 5:50 p.m.
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voices, The article states that: "Democratic legislators arranged the unofficial hearing, one of several around the state, because, they said, the official hearings were limited."
-- Gazette reporter Frank Schultz
Apr 22, 2011 at 3:34 p.m.
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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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"From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."
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totellthetruth, which of the two creeds above do you most strongly agree with?
Apr 22, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
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The Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chaired by Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, released a budget on April 6th. The budget they are proposing gets savings from defense cuts, including immediately withdrawing from Afghanistan and Iraq, which saves $1.6 trillion over the CBO baseline from 2012-2021. The tax hikes include restoring the estate tax, ending the Bush tax cuts, and adding new tax brackets for the extremely rich, running from 45% on income over a million a year to 49% on income over a billion a year.
Paul Ryan's plan adds (by its own claims) $6 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, but promises to balance the budget by sometime in the 2030s by cutting programs for the poor and the elderly. The Progressive Caucus's plan would (by its own claims) balance the budget by 2021 by cutting defense spending and raising taxes, mainly on rich people.
Apr 22, 2011 at 2:49 p.m.
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Interesting that no republicans were there for the first half of the meeting, it just shows they don't care about the people who elected them. They only care about themselves and how much they can profit from their office financially. Because of this the recalls are moving forward with 5 in and more to follow.
Apr 22, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.
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Why no mention that this meeting was not one of the official hearings set by the Joint Finance Committee? It was basically just a dog-and-pony show for Democratic lawmakers to gin up their base. It wasn't an official meeting, so why should a Republican lawmaker show up? Yeah, yeah, their constituents would be there...but it rings kind of hollow when you consider what the "Fab 14" pulled.
Apr 22, 2011 at 1:20 p.m.
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Let's see where to begin......communist democratic leaders???????what the h is that.....?
Apr 22, 2011 at 1:13 p.m.
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Let's regulate utilities and insurances!
Apr 22, 2011 at 8:09 a.m.
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This is just the start, come June 30, the house of cards the repubs are building will cave. That is when the pay cuts begin. If I was a big, or small business owner I would be very worried. You take what little spending extra I have, I can't buy your stuff. Hope you all enjoy the big money you'll get from cutting our pay. I'm sure Scooter will divide it between all those who voted for him. Thank me for your new found wealth. Oh, better renew your licenses now, before everybody retires.
Apr 22, 2011 at 7:23 a.m.
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The majority of complaints in this article are about the rising cost of health, "I pay $1,200 a month in health care", "health care costs keep rising". Gee, wish someone would have tried to do something about the cost of health care. Ohhh, that's right someone did but the majority of it hasn't taken effect yet, and the republicans had to water it down and take the public provider option out, which would have pushed the cost spiral down more. Meanwhile the republican return to the dark ages continues with Maine repealing child labor laws.
Apr 22, 2011 at 6:42 a.m.
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Time to take-take-take away the funding for the defense department and stop the rampant ripoff of the taxpayers by the defense contractors. They love to see the US in a constant state of war. While we're at it, let's end funding of the VA and those benefits.
Apr 22, 2011 at 5:53 a.m.
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Democrats will always TAKE-TAKE-TAKE anything and everything they can get someone else to pay for.
Apr 22, 2011 at 3:12 a.m.
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Does anyone forget about the fact that 3 bus drivers in madison made 115000 dollars last year. Something has to be done to the transit systems, and I think it is ludicris that bus drivers made that much. All government jobs are service jobs. Yes you do have to do them because it is your passion. If you don't go to your job and have a passion for it, then get out because you are probably horrible at it.
Apr 22, 2011 at 1:22 a.m.
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kidsfirst would that be like the last budget that passed? It was proposed, had very limited debate, voted on, then signed in 36 hours. No public hearings at all. It also included over 1 billion in new taxes. There is no way all will be happy with any approach. Interestingly many of these same dems now complaining about not having enough open meeting this time stood in support of the 36 hour rush job on the last budget with no public debate. At least having some public input and debate is better than past actions.
As I said, political stunt.
Apr 22, 2011 at 12:05 a.m.
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RAF you are correct -- it was a political stunt. The Republican led Joint Finance Com. scheduled only four instead of the usual six hearings and placed them in areas where they were more likely to get support.
The Dem. legislators scheduled this opportunity to listen to their constituents concerns about a week ago. They invited the GOP, but they did not come. Instead they scheduled their own meetings with only about 36 hour notice. . . Talk about political stunts. . .
Apr 21, 2011 at 11:37 p.m.
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westorbust this is a political stunt. In official meetings in northern wi the dem legislators were leaving before the meetings concluded and all speakers finished, leaving only rep legislators in attendance.
Apr 21, 2011 at 11:34 p.m.
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sportthewar thanks for the input, I so look forward to your insight and intellect.
Apr 21, 2011 at 10:43 p.m.
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"8 paragraphs in the truth is told about the hearings..."
For pete's sake do people actually read these articles before you post?
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"Local Republican lawmakers were invited. None appeared in the first half of the meeting."
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Ideology before facts. Rush and Beck would be proud.
Apr 21, 2011 at 9:58 p.m.
Apr 21, 2011 at 9:15 p.m.
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So Ms. Burns from McFarland doesn't care about Rock County law enforcement cuts but came to Rock County to defend the governor. Thanks for nothing.
Apr 21, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.
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"Texas Governor Rick Perry called on Texans to pray for rain as cooler temperatures on Thursday helped firefighters contain wildfires that have charred more than 1.5 million acres across the state."
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Maybe Walker should call on his supporters to pray for a couple of ultra-rich brothers to give the state a billion dollars.
Apr 21, 2011 at 7:54 p.m.
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8 paragraphs in the truth is told about the hearings..."Democratic legislators arranged the unofficial hearing"
Apr 21, 2011 at 6:44 p.m.
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Smaller buses would help. You only need the larger buses in the mornings and afternoons on school days. Better gas milage and we wouldn't need a new garage. Sell some of the older big buses to pay for the smaller ones. We need public transportation, but it to needs repair.
Apr 21, 2011 at 6:12 p.m.
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Thanks Phoenix!
Apr 21, 2011 at 6:08 p.m.
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Unfortunately to those who use it, i think public transportation is in need of overhaul. unless you can make more people use it, and make it close to solvent, it is another form of welfare. Many of us are tired of paying for others. Raise the rates i say, and if the riders cant afford it, it will be gone, and they will find another way.
Apr 21, 2011 at 6:02 p.m.
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I agree Dick.
Apr 21, 2011 at 5:28 p.m.
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grandys618 - Your comment about democrats runing off to Illinois is getting pretty old! You use that same comment in almost all of your posts. Can you not come up with anything better or more inlelligent than that one? Get a life!
Apr 21, 2011 at 5:13 p.m.
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Ok not everybody cannot afford cars, like the rich do and so they depend on public transport. So what do you want to poor to do walk to work/school. With pay going down and gas going up more and more will need public transport.
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