Whitewater bans all-you-can-drink specials

By KAYLA BUNGE   Friday, May 7, 2010
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— Mark Wokasch isn’t too worried about losing customers at his downtown bar.

Fat Jack’s, 146 W. Main St., has offered two all-you-can-drink specials and other cheap-drink promotions for a while.

But the bar and a few others in the city with similar specials will have to come up with a new way to bring in business by the end of the month.

The Whitewater City Council this week voted 4-3 to ban all-you-can-drink specials at licensed establishments.

City Clerk Michele Smith said the ban would take effect by the end of May—as soon as the council approves a second reading of the ordinance and as soon as the ordinance is published.

Wokasch said downtown bar owners likely won’t know the real effects of the ban for a few months because students are heading home for the summer and will return to school and the bars in the fall.

“I’m not too worried,” he said. “But it’s going to take time to really see what’s going to happen.”

Wokasch this week stopped offering his specials, which included $7 all-you-can-drink rail mixers and domestic tap beers on Wednesday nights and $5 all-you-can-drink rail mixers on Thursday nights, so students could get used to the ban on such promotions.

“I was talking to some of them. They all seemed kind of worried that it actually went through,” he said.

The city council considered the ban after some downtown bar owners expressed concerns about all-you-can-drink specials.

Dave Bergman, owner of the Brass Rail, 130 W. Main St., said bars that offer such specials are being irresponsible and putting the community at risk.

“We’re supposed to be responsible servers,” he said. “But when you have $5 all-you-can-drink, and people get so intoxicated and possibly go out and kill themselves or somebody else (in an accident), that’s not responsible. I don’t believe in that.”

Bergman said he often has to deal with patrons who stumble into the bar after taking advantage of a cheap drink special at another bar. He said drunken patrons often vomit all over the bathrooms, break or vandalize property and cause problems for bartenders.

“It’s a nuisance,” he said.

Council member Lynn Binnie said such specials are a public safety hazard.

“There’s clear evidence that shows that all-you-can-drink specials and similar promotions tend to lead to overindulgence in alcohol, and that can result in public safety issues such as injuries and deaths from drunken driving … and other crimes.”

Council member Jim Olsen said it might help curb binge drinking in the city.

“If we can stop the over-consumption of alcohol by not having all-you-can-drink specials, then I think it’s a good thing,” he said. “It might help. I’m not saying it’s going to stop (binge drinking), but it’s a step in the right direction.”

Binnie agreed.

“I think there certainly are ways (alcohol) license holders could skirt this very basic ordinance,” he said. “But I think it at least makes a statement that we are concerned about excessive indulgence.”

Council member Max Taylor, who is graduating from UW-Whitewater this month and whose district is comprised almost entirely of fellow students, said the new rules unfairly target the college crowd.

“Most of these specials don’t start until later at night,” he said. “Students are the ones who go to the bars for these specials. The after-work crowd isn’t going out for them.”

Taylor also said the ban doesn’t solve the problem of binge drinking.

“Bars still can their lower prices on drinks,” he said. “And students probably will go to the liquor store and stock up for a house party to drink on the cheap.

“I really don’t think it’s going to slow down drinking.”

Wokasch of Fat Jack’s agreed.

“Why have it be illegal to do it in a regulated area such as a bar or restaurant … and not have it be the same way house parties?” he asked.

“‘All-you-can-drink’ isn’t really what it means. It’s all we will serve you. It’s not like we’re pouring beer and booze down people’s throats. It’s your choice to ask for another …”

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frogger
May 10, 2010 at 1:27 p.m.
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justme46- I wasn't saying this to you. Sorry I should have put to : whythink....

And so what if we are off topic a bit.

justme46
May 10, 2010 at 1:24 p.m.
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Okay, again I am sorry. I am now leaving this discussion, have fun with it!

frogger
May 10, 2010 at 11:07 a.m.
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I was responding to Digriz.
Follow along please.

justme46
May 9, 2010 at 1:58 p.m.
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Sorry, got off target. Just replying to frogger.

whythink
May 9, 2010 at 7:42 a.m.
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Did you just compare all-you-can-drink specials to a Happy Meal?
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Wisconsin college campuses have a HUGE drinking problem. An all you can drink special being supervised by cowardly bartenders at a college bar is a dangerous situation.
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AGAIN!!! the problem is the bartenders overserving the customers. That is ILLEGAL and obviously NOONE has the courage to enforce that. This looks good for the council, all the families of Whitewater will be happy but $.05 taps if the bartenders don't step up will result in the same problem.
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Councils, police, owners...start punishing the bartenders who obviously overserve. They are the problem. They need to lose their license.

justme46
May 8, 2010 at 4:07 p.m.
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Frogger, you are right. No one can live alone on fast food but it is a treat now and then. I like McD's chicken wraps, yum. That is the only thing I like there. Anyways, we all need to treat our kids and us once in awhile. JMO

frogger
May 8, 2010 at 3:06 p.m.
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Digriz- actually they are working on it!
Taxing soft drinks.
Taking away the toy at Mc D unless it is a "good meal"
Sorry a kid eating a burger once in a while isn't going to make him fat. Just like adults eating one once in a while isn't going to either.

frogger
May 8, 2010 at 11:09 a.m.
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jck- I agree the 5 cent days will be back.

JCK
May 8, 2010 at 9:12 a.m.
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I can see a rash of half price specials, 25 cent tappers, etc. coming.

whythink
May 8, 2010 at 8:47 a.m.
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It is illegal for a licensed bartender to serve alcohol to ANYONE who already appears to be intoxicated.
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ENFORCE THAT LAW! I have been (YEARS AGO)throw-up, fall over drunk, sitting next to a cop in Madison, ordering another drink and NOTHING HAPPENED!
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A $6 all you can drink special for a person watching a game and having 3 drinks is a great deal...they should not be punished BUT if bartenders are not willing to do their job then once again the government must step in.
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Personally I wish the stepping in wasn't this but a notice to all bars/bartenders...YOUR LIQUOR LICENSE IS ON THE LINE. Stop serving drunks or you will be fined and perhaps lose that license.

RetiredAirForce
May 8, 2010 at 4:07 a.m.
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Another attempt by those in government to limit personal behavior with the silly belief they know better.

Any law to protect you from yourself is a bad law, period.

The grasping of the straw-man over things like one of the council persons said, "can result in public safety issues such as injuries and deaths from drunken driving … and other crimes."

Perhaps this same council person forgot the straw-man is over something that is already a crime...passing more limits to prevent something that is already a crime is a great example of a stupid law.

JJL
May 7, 2010 at 7:51 p.m.
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sounds like we have an upset bar owner who isn't getting any kids to drink at his bar and he's just mad about it, thats the bottom line...it is a college town and college kids do them types of things, always have and always will...one way or another...

inconvenienttruth
May 7, 2010 at 5:58 p.m.
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Hey, kids are going to binge drink anyway, so why should servers do their jobs responsibly? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

frogger
May 7, 2010 at 5:28 p.m.
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"target the college crowd."

Who else would want to hang out in a bar with a bunch of PLASTERED teens??

Yes it may be you they are after DUH.

" It’s all we will serve you. It’s not like we’re pouring beer and booze down people’s throats. It’s your choice to ask for another …”

I see a tiny contridiction here.

It seems like a loss for the bar. I know WI kids can put down the booze.

justme46
May 7, 2010 at 4:54 p.m.
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All you can eat specials aren't outlawed, so why should all you can drink specials be? Obesity kills also. Go ahead, start bashing, I am bored anyway!

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