ozzman- "camel in sunglasses tells them to"

Is it not really a camel you know. Sex sells! )

Gfans name is PAT ! ) or is it Chris.

jterry, what is it about your deficient intellect that allows you only to respond with insults instead of point-for-point comments?

Maybe your intellect is clogged up from the fact that many a times a day you take a round elongated thing and stick it your mouth and draw its emissions then you ingest those emissions. Yes, smoking has really messed up your ability to think STRAIGHT.

Pull my finger and Ill show you some toxic fumes to be scared of!

Terry-Don't have children, not a woman, don't live in LA Land. Not one thing in your post was right-shocker.

Kids dont smoke because a camel in sunglasses tells them to, they somke for the same reasons adults do- to releive anxiety and depression- George Carlin. kids are the way they are because of self righetous people like miss fischer who are on a crusade to save everyone from themselves

Like I said, I would never expect a hormanel thinking woman to think straight, and as for you leostine36 I feel real sorry for you children, they will never know what a independant thinking, intellagent parent is like, buy they way way how is it in LA Land. GROW UP AND JOIN THE ADULT WORLD

terry1955-are you trying to quit smoking? You sound really angry. Don't woory about us sheep...we are smart enough to get that we don't have to put up with obnoxious, second hand smoke anymore. Us sheep are happy about that :>

gazettefan, You have to be a woman or a man who wishes he was, because you and others like you the only way you know how to think is with your hormones, use your brain, have you ever had an origanal thought or do you just like being on the band wagon, I pity you but I also woory about the future of this country when people like just want to be lead like sheep to slaughter

jtjerry...., there's a lot of that going around. But in her case, the people who agree with her, far outnumber the people who don't. You could be said to be on the same "ego trip", the difference is: you're not rallying people to your cause like she is rallying people to her cause, which is the cause of millions of people.

Don't you get it, when did someone make her Queen and tell other parents how to raise their children, the woman is on a ego trip, she has an agenda, and that agenda is that she is right, will always be right and the hell with others think

jtterry1955, re: the people who used to drink and smoke at that bar: where do they spend that time now?

Do they only drink and smoke at home now, and at each other's houses?

If Miss Fischer was so sure of herself on this hallowed mission of hers why was she and others so afraid of making this a statewide referendum, it has gone way beyond a smoking ban, it is now her personal crusade to save all of the unwashed masses from themselves, she is the Messiah, god save us all

the thing that bothers me about this Debbie Fischer and people like her< Greg Peck are you reading this? is that all they see are their one and only side of their story, I take the trasin from Harvard, Ill to Chicago to visit my brother, there used to be a little beer and shot bar by the station, nothing fancy but it was nice and clean, the owner viet nam vet, 2 tours, got his GI bill saved up and did the American dream thing, bought his bar, Ill went smoke free, he lost customers, and had to sell his place, I thought and He thought we lived in a democracy, well it trns out we do not, do we Miss Fischer am I right mr. Peck? You 2 did not have to go into his place, but you felt it is your right to shut it down, please explain yourselves on this

Talk about denial.

Okay, whythink, start naming......I am waiting. I have never blown my "toxic fumes" in anyones face either. Go outside, with all the air quality reports right now you can get cancer just from walking to your car! You are just as full of it as the rest of the negativity on here. I never once promoted kids smoking and I also said I was curteous. And yeah, OJ got acquitted, but where is he now? We, smokers, are trying to say that it is biased what is going on. Sure it is a habit, but so is picking your nose and I see a lot of people doing that while driving. PULL THEM OVER, THEY ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ROAD, JUST TO THE FINGER HEADING TO THEIR MOUTH WITH THEIR SNOT!!!

Lumberjack754 - I'll smoke to that !!!

My cigs don't end me up in detox. My cigs don't end me up in jail. My cigs don't make me weave all over the roadways until I kill someone. My cigs don't make me steal or rob to support my habit. My cigs don't spread AIDS or other diseases. My cigs have never caused an overdose. My cigs are legal and my choice.
My cigs do stink, are dangerous to my health, and are outlawed in certain places. But so does my buddy's gas, but I've learned to start moving when he leans to one side.

“But our work is not done,” she said. “The tobacco industry is always five steps ahead of us, and we must stay on the pathway to help our kids never start and help the people who are addicted to quit. We feel the newly formed multi-jurisdictional coalition will help us do just that.”
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All of you criticizing this lady...WHY? It sounds like she is trying to prevent young people (CHILDREN) from starting. If you think that is wrong you are SICK (IMO).
Her other goal is, "...help the people who are addicted to quit." Since the first step to beating an addiction is admitting a problem one MUST assume that she is talking about people with the desire but in need of support.
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Where is the article does she talk about entering your home and taking your cigs away?
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justme, That example is funny. Hell, OJ was aquitted, does that mean all of us can get away with murder. NOPE! You, and your family are lucky, I can name a dozen people not as fortunate. Just cause it worked for you doesn't mean it isn't a bad idea for others.
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I see it as a personal choice...but shouldn't be done around others. In private...GO FOR IT!
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BTW, I did not equate smoking to murder so do not go there!

YOU GO LUMBERJACK!!!!

In reference to ihavealfe(butnotafullyfuntioningbrain)When is the last time you saw somebody get smashed on a pack of menthols and took out a busload of kids?.Your logic ranks right up there with janesvillian.
i for one think there is no more stinky smelly habit than to stick your high riding nose in somebody elses business i am tired of takin crap from you self absorbed hipocrites. quit whineing and stop world hunger, go to haiti and build some houses, or to milwaukee and figure out how to curb the murder/crime epidemic!!! and until you achieve that get the hell off my back! If you still feel the need to straighten this out. leave your number on here and i will call you with my address,that way we can share some "quality time" together and you won't have to hide behind your keyboard. And as far as that lady lookin like a smoker, I bet she is far worse than that. A former smoker that feels she did not get enough conrats from her family, so she is looking for the moral majority to build her a monument!!! Give me a break

bobb-".The dogooders will no doubt find another "menace" to our lives and Wisconsin will naturally raise the tax on...."

Yes soda pop is next. First they said .01 per oz. Recently they said .01 depending how much sugar is in it.

"how often do you think that she has ever left her safe little house and went to Legends bar, or the Glass or other places like that,"

Want to take bets it is more times than she would want people to believe!!!???

She's a sniffer alright, her nose goes sideways! LOL Let people live their lives and if you don't like the smoke, leave the room, we have to!

People like this Debbie Fischer will not be happy until the world is made in their image, after she thinks that she has all of the answers and I need someone like her to save me from my self, for every lawbidding, tax paying business owner who is going to put out of business her atittude is " so what let them eat cake'" she and others like her are nothing but social snobs, how often do you think that she has ever left her safe little house and went to Legends bar, or the Glass or other places like that,

I totally agree with lumberjack! I also am a smoker and I have no desire to quit. I think all this uproar over smoking is a crock of sh__! I am very courteous when around others (if they don't smoke) and I smoke in my own home and car. My dad smoked 3 packs of non filter Pall Malls for 70 years of his life and around us 5 girls (his daughters). He didn't die from any form of cancer and my mom nor us girls have any form of cancer or heart problems. I have smoked for 35 years and plan to take a pack with me to the funeral home, so put that in your whatever kind of pipe you have, and SMOKE IT!!!

When If ever are citizens in control of THEIR LIVES??
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I am always in control of MY LIFE. I understand that as long as I don't harm others (say by blowing toxic fumes in their face) I am usually good to go.
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The only question I have is why should any employee work in a place that allows smoking? No other industry could get away with having its workforce breath in the deadly fumes that are produced by 2nd hand smoke.

In any other industry, those would be considered toxic and you would see an "WARNING Toxic Fumes Room Ahead, Authorized Personnel ONLY, GAS MASK REQUIRED"

Why are bars and restaraunts immune to that standard?

Good idea, carlito....., we could also forget about assault and battery and only focus on murder.

it is a persons choice if they want to smoke and most of the anti smokers are former smorkers. There is way more issues that need to be dealt with then smoking. HEROIN/CRACK/NARCOTIC ABUSE/Drunk Drivers/ Rapists/child abusers and the list goes on.If a person chooses to smoke and go places that allow it then the ANTI people can go elsewhere if it bothers them. I will be damned if I owned a business and someone was going to ban smoking (A legal thing to purchase) I would make it a private members only place. If they don't want to be around smoke THEN DON'T go around those that choose to smoke' BRB gotta go outside and smoke

I rarely agree with janesvillian but I do here....Nothing wrong with helping impressionable kids avoid the pitfalls of the corporate equivalent of child molesters.

Is Eyster using another screen name?!

frogger: i buy beer and liquor with all the dough i saved and donated it back to the tavern league of wisconsins annual xmas party.

yOU COMMENT ABOUT US SMOKERS BEING SELFISH. yET TOU ALL CONTINUE TO SHOVE YOUR RIGHTS DOWN OUR THROATS. I AS A SMOKER, EITHER SMOKE OUTSIDE (BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO NOT BECAUSE I'M FORCED TOO) OR I SMOKE IN MY OWN HOME. I AM VERY CONSIDERATE OF YOUR HIGHLY SENSITIVE SENSE OF SMELL AND MORALITY. I PAY MY OWN HEALTH INSURANCE AS WELL AS ALLOW MYSELF TO BE RAPED BY THE STATE OF WISCONSIN THROUGH THEIR OVERTAXATION OF ANYONE WITH A VICE PROGRAM. iF SOMEONE "INVADES YOUR CLEAN AIR SPACE" I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE UPSET. nOT ALL
SMOKERS ARE INCONSIDERATE SELF CENTER EGOTIST AS YOU IMPLY.(OR AS YOU ACT AS WELL).oR MAYBEE
YOU FOLKS ARE RIGHT. MUCH AS HITLER WAS WHEN HE THOUGHT THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THE JEWS. (YES THAT WAS EXTREME SARCASM) JUST LEAVE US ALONE, LET US DIE EARLY OF CANCER, AND THEN YOU CAN REJOICE AT YOUR BOOK BURNING CELEBRATIONS AS TO HOW RIGHT YOU ARE.

kid- what do you buy with the saved dough ! )

If you ask me SHE looks like a smoker!!

Do they keep increasing the tax to pay for things like this? Less people smoke when the tax is increased is my guess. So you still want the SAME amount of money no matter how many people are smoking??

How much are cigs in IL?

Sorry to hear you are losing the battle ihavealife.

Budget just like the rest of us have too!

WAY TO GO JJL.lets have a smoke in, you know what would be a gasss, if we could advertise about it in the paper do you think Geg Peck would have a hissy fit? what do you think janesvillean

How come I never hear about any of the tax dollars going to cleanup after smokers?

that sux ihavealife. my ma is the same way. just cant kick it. i did over 4 years ago now and have saved sooooo much dough. as addictive as this drug is its hard to believe the only requirement to obtain it is you reach the ripe old age of 18...

lol

JJL: 2 questions...a) am i invited and 2) does it have to be tobacco??

i now will consider and start planing on holding a "SMOKE IN" on the steps of the court house sometime this summer and will invite Debbra J FISHER to light the "GOLDEN PIPE" to kick off the event..without pay of course!

nice way to keep a work free job i would say, maybe ya should be unionized! ....making bar owners miserable and hassling them is your job?

Who opened the door and let the tobacco nazis in?

I buy mine in Il and will continue too. Wi is a screwed up state,

Good grief........................

janesvillean wrote, "Typical of people with a messy, disgusting, and ultimately fatal habit to act selfishly and criticize someone who is looking out for others. You throw around your insults the way you throw around your butts."

I quoted you because I cannot write it any better. Thanks.

I don't need her to look out for me

Typical of people with a messy, disgusting, and ultimately fatal habit to act selfishly and criticize someone who is looking out for others. You throw around your insults the way you throw around your butts.

what are they going to ban next, bon fires? after all there is all kinds of second hand smoke, I think everybody should head out to the local paper (the Janesburg Gassette ) and have a smoke in. HEY PECK WANT TO JOIN US?

peoplre like this Fisher lady are not happy until all of the Ignorant people of the world join her little universe and hold hands and sing campfire songs,She is just another example of someone how so unhappy with her life that she wants everyone to also unhappy and hate their life, why can't she just stay out of other peoples life, oh yea I forgot people like her think only with their hormones instead of their brains