Same thing -- it is an attack of capitalism and the regulation put in place is the very cause of the problems..... they try to put in place a bandaid where there is no wound and as a result create the problems. Its not t he deregulation, it was the regulation in the 1st place. Didnt think I had to explain that -- but no matter you still wont get it.

Ezoner- janesvillian said "deregulated capitalism", not capitalism. You need to get some glasses and read.

Janesvillian,

You fail to recognize that it is NOT capitalism and competition that has created this state of affairs, but the governments intervention and messing around that created the problem. You need to get some glasses and read.

News Flash! Ed Montgomery is throwing in the towel after his visit to Janesville!

http://detroitnews.com/article/20100614/...

Me too. Raman noodles, bread, cheese, peanut butter and soup. That takes the 10 at Family Dollar. But, it would feed me and husband for 2 days or more. Thanks, Sarah.

scooter47: When I was out of work, I could make that $10 feed me for three or four days. Oatmeal, peanut butter, plain white bread, and ketchup soup can satisfy an empty belly for a few weeks if need be. Remember that children's book about "rock soup"? It's probably a best-seller again.

I agree, not telling no one to do anything. Just a suggestion and an opinion.

There is no such thing as a "government handout". In the long run, it must all be repaid. Even on unemployment these people must pay taxes at the end of the year. Welfare, what is that? Do some research, in Wisconsin there is no "welfare". Foodshare (if you qualify) and medicaid, yes (if you qualify), "welfare", NO. Some I know receive $20 a month in foodshare because they make $2, yes 2 dollars over the limit for more!!! What a crock! We are all glad that you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. I mentioned that to a wealthy guy once and do you know what he said...his silver spoon turned into a gold one! Of all the ignorant answers. Does he or the others with this privilage ever go sit at the job center and hand out money? Even 10 bucks a piece to the unemployed or underemployed would help some eat for a day.

The only thing hilarious is how miserably all this federal "over site" has FAILED. Gee. you only had 400, yes 400 agencies, who were over seeing AIG. Boy that sure worked out well! How about all that over site set up to look over Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. Yep; all that over site worked wonders. The SEC does excellent work at governmnet over site to. They only looked at the books of Bernie Madoff 6 times. HUH; AMAZING....NOTHING irregular was ever found! After looking over plainly obvious fraud, and finding nothing irregular, they could get back to their $200K+ jobs, and watch porn for 40 hours a week!
http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/2010/0423...

Yeah; governmnet over site agencies really work wonders baby! Lets get some more of that!

It's really hilarious that we have a recession caused by the excesses of deregulated capitalism, and some people just say they want more of that. No, I didn't mean hilarious. It's sick and sad.

Great, more government intervention. How is it working for Barry boy now?

There you go again with the name calling...."Self-serving Jerk"? Oh sure that's exactly what I am. I am willing to bet that I donated more money in the last year than you have in the last 5 years.

Sorry to tell you, but when I am near 60 I will be long retired....probably because I know how to save my money. As far as being out of job, well I would be out of here working somewhere else if I needed to be. I guarantee I wouldn't be taking a handout!

"I read once where you wrote "most of the ultimately deleted posts I've read did more damage to the credibility of the poster than to anyone else. For this reason, I have never once requested removal of any legitimate poster's comments”."

Thanks for giving me another opportunity to prove my point, Billnewbie. :-)

chelleandlou and sarahb: You both are absolutely right! flyboyatjvl: I hope you never lose your job and not be able to find work to feed your family. These people who lost their livelyhood, including my husband, most of them were very hard working AMERICANS who never asked for a hand-out prior to now. So quit putting your foot in your mouth. Because karma can be a b@%#$! Like I said, I hope it never happens to you.

flyboy: You're only 41. Come back and talk to us when you are closer to 60 and still wanting to work. Unless you are working independently, own your own business or have direct links to the owner, you may have a different story to tell. Unless they are experiencing it, most people do not believe age discrimination exists in the work place. A lot of them learn the real truth once they hit their middle 50s.

flyboy, you're an self serving jerk. Do you expect us to believe if you were unemployed, trying to feed your family, with no health insurance, that you wouldn't be trying to collect the "handouts" you speak of? If you aren't happy with the way things are do something about it. Which ballot are you on? The problem with this country is its run by rich people who don't give two hoots about the poor, unemployed, or blue collar workers. All they care about is the money in their pocket. Just how do you think that will ever change? I don't know of any "average joe" in blue collar America or in the hood, ghetto, projects, streets, or whatever other noun you want to use that if they ran for office would make it past the primary....let alone to Washington...

And Darwin you calling me a dimwit just shows how dimwitted you are! Typical democrat though, can't use their minds to debate, just their lack of mind to name call.

Please! Holier than thou attitude? No, I would call it "sick and tired of having taxation without representation attitude!" Sick and tired of of this society's attitude of give me give me give me. Sick and tired of bailouts. Sick and tired of social programs. Sick and tired of greedy hands in my pockets. I paid enough in taxes last year to support 4 welfare families or more....but sure...I'm not paying enough! 90% of the taxes in this country are paid by the top 10% of the tax payers....oh those ultra rich evil doers! I am 41 and do not count on social security, it's already bankrupt! No I rely on investing and my retirement accounts...but you socialists want that too. Spread the wealth until there is no wealth left! Oh yeah, your socialist government will take care of all of us, I just bet! And to whoever asked why I am still in this country? Because I am a patriot. I am an American. I am a United States citizen who gave 13 years of my life in the defense of this country. Because I love the United States Constitution and what it stands for...or what it did stand for before these marxist took over. How dare you judge me and those who work very hard and pay their taxes and who never put their hand out for a darn thing! I rebuke those who continually strive to empty my pockets for their own self-satisfaction!

At the end of this "recession", the ultra rich will still be ultra rich. The wealthy will still be wealthy. And the working man and women can thank their lucky stars that a Democrat kept the safety net under them.

That’s a curious statement, Fool_on_the_Hill.

I read once where you wrote "most of the ultimately deleted posts I've read did more damage to the credibility of the poster than to anyone else. For this reason, I have never once requested removal of any legitimate poster's comments”. So posts that are removed also limit that self-inflicted damage, an act which you don’t favor, apparently. And in most cases, neither do I. Yet we can’t know just who it was that suggested removal for any given removed post, let alone assume motivation, unless there was a disparagement aimed at a specific individual. Even then, we can’t be sure, just as we can’t be sure of the motivation. But then for someone to complain about their posts being suggested for removal and then removed is like a law breaker complaining about the guy who turned him in. It’s just as vacuous and just as damaging to their credibility as the removed post would be, in my opinion.

I noticed while I searched for that quote of yours in the archive that you recently had a post removed on a story I had commented on. But my comment had nothing to do with you since you had no comment before mine and I did not mention you directly or indirectly. Did your comment address me or my comment? Was it less than flattering? Was being incensed the reaction you were hoping to induce in me, if a comment about me was what triggered that comment's removal? I suggest that in spite of your convictions, that you really don’t understand me as much as you like to think you do.

My husband graduated in May, has put numerous apps in, even for other jobs that have nothing to do with his trade. Graduated with honors. Just one call, saying they already hired someone. What do we do when unemployment runs out in July??? Lose our house, apply for all kinds of financial aid. So either way, everyone will be paying for it. Either extend unemployment benefits until people can find jobs or pay for finacial, healthcare, food stamps, low/no cost housing, etc.

Maybe we could ALL get jobs yakking to other people about jobs!!!...Now theres an idea!!!

$40 million dollar worth of projects, Paid for by the out of work taxpayers!

flyboy: I was "downsized" in spring 08 and only available option was to return to school with govt. assistance. Govt helped alot, not all but alot with tuition and unemployment. I'm 58 and just graduated in May on a Sat. and started my new job with great pay and benefits the following Tues. I now have spending power, ability to repay student loans, and ability to pay taxes. It's not that people won't help themselves it's that where do they turn when they need help? Walk in our shoes before judging, please! Why houllier than thou attitude?

An interesting point about the Gazette headlines (print edition) was the Gazette says one of the three items asked for was lower taxes. I was there for almost three hours and the only reference to lower taxes I heard was tax relief or tax credits for small starting businesses, and that only once was mentioned within one sentence of one presenter.

It is not that tax relief is not important, what was said was - jobs, infrastructure, and declining tax revenue support, and more jobs, that being said; how accurate is the Gazette reporting and how nuetral are they?

For all of you so anti-government, why are you still living in the United States? Can't you find another country to live in where you can be happy? Maybe you can take it over and run it the way you think it should be run. You know, the self serving government who gives all to its leaders rather than the people who deserve and need assistance to survive.

Flyboy,
So are you insinuating that the unemployed are lazy and waiting for a handout? How are the unemployed supposed to "help themselves" when there aren't any jobs?

I don't think you should judge people, much less ASSume anything until you walk a mile in their shoes. You do realize there are people who have been out of work for 2 years or longer...and not just those that worked at GM or GM suppliers.

Incensed would better describe someone who reflexively clicks, "Suggest Removal", Billnewbie.

nice list of projects. I'd laugh out loud if they didn't make me feel like I'm going to vomit.
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Here's my Idea: counseling for online training in raising a virtual garden. In other words - combine most of the above to train people how to play "farmville" on facebook - I'd only charge 1.2 million, so it would be quite a bargain.

Darwin1 adheres to this simple rule, in all matters of opinion those who disagree with Darwin1 are dimwits! (there are many who post comments on GazetteXtra who adhere to their own personal variation of this rule but are curiously incensed when others such as Darwin1 invoke it against them)

Darwin1

I thought Al Gore invented the Internet before his government involvement?

I bet you are in favor of the Government Tax and Redistribution to the media too aren't you? I guess if you help the media, then you can get your views across in a manner that is more appropriate for whatever agenda you want pushed.

And before you go freaking out about some kind of whacked out anti-government movement, take a look back at history and see what happens to a society that is reliant upon it's government, and better yet, see what happens when we spend and tax our way to a recovery. It won't be pretty. There is a very keen difference between Government help and Government reliance. There seems to be a tendency for leaning away from personal responsibility.

That's right, Darwin1. Likewise, they should also stay off of any and all public streets or property when exercising their First Amendment right of free speech and assembly. Yep, that's what our Founders intended.

Of course, in order to remain 100% fair and philosophically consistent, make sure that YOU never use any equipment or infrastructure created or owned by private industry. Here's a map of Internet ownership:

http://advice.cio.com/themes/CIO.com/cac...

Good luck with that... ;~)

If most of you are against the government than you should probably stop posting on blogs using the government created internet you dimwits.

The government has helped more people than any of you. And, by that standard is technically a better Christian than most Christians.

BEWARE of "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help." It will only cost you in the long run.

I thought it was good to have people more reliant on government? That's what the Obamatrons tell me anyways.

Just what our community needs, more bailout, more government assistance and more handouts!

I object to anything this federal government does with my tax money, especially handing it out to people who won't help themselves.