Davvic:

These myths speak for themselves:
Fifty Domestic Violence Myths
http://wadvpress.org/?p=250

Men can be gender-feminists. On that, you will get no disagreement from me. But, the amount of disinformation out there has hijacked the truth. Over forty years worth of CLINICAL DATA back up that fact: - http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.h... .

That data has basis, sample size and is CLINICAL in nature. Men don't complain, and if they do, they wind up getting arrested. It takes two to fight. If that is not the case, please let me know. My ex had thrown TV remotes at me and broken wine glasses over my head. I never complained, but I was the one arrested when she decided so. Probable cause. That's it. Period. End of story. That negates what indoctrinated statement you provided below. Because, if what you said was true, why not use existing assault laws that have been on the books for years to prosecute these cases?

I'll tell you why. And so will you. But, keep in mind that you will contradict your earlier statement by doing so.

False allegations ARE NOT prosecuted. False rape charges ARE NOT prosecuted. Can you tell me why?

Things have gotten WAY out of hand and you know it. Simply viewing me as a threat to your "cause" is a good thing in my mind. Circumventing due process is not the answer. The answer is in the proof, and that's why assault laws have been ignored and replaced with these horrible laws that destroy men.

WADVPress
http://wadvpress.org

davvic: thank you for your comments. I totally agree with you and have been a victim of DV. I totally agree that this was a terrible case that was described....but it is not the norm. It seems that men that find themselves in this situation all get treated as if it was that bad of a situation. I would LOVE the false accusers to be prosecuted too. But, the type of person that does that is a user....a user of people and a user of systems and programs. They'll continue the rest of their lives lying and pushing for attention.

WADVPress - If you are a frequent visitor to that website you directed me to then I would say you are the one being "indoctrinated with falsehoods". Where is the "evidence" in those articles? I have facilitated for domestic violence groups made up of both men and women(separately)for over 20 yrs. I never said that women couldn't be the abuser I merely said there are far fewer of them and I stand by that regardless of what the statistics in Scotland(?) would have you believe. By the way, I'm a man so I think your gender-feminist label is misdirected.

Davicc:

You didn't address the issues that I posted. Instead, you went for the personal shot. Most gender-feminists do that when confronted with the truth. Most IPV relationships are two way violence. Blaming one side doesn't fix anything, but it does generate 6.5 BILLION dollars per year for the DV Industry, now doesn't it?

I expect more personal shots as you are indoctrinated with falsehoods. Probable cause (word of mouth) IS the current standard. No evidence is required. I can prove that. So, with that in mind, please bring it.

WADVPress
http://wadvpress.org

biggirl- If you're asking about stats of female officers on the Janesville Department's new team, I can answer that ...

The six-person team is made up of three men and three women. Chief Dave Moore, "put the call out to all the shifts," and six people volunteered to be on the team, he said.

If you have a different question, please let me know.

Reporter Ann Marie Ames

I'm glad that this team has formed, yet I'm concerned about the follow up meeting if the abuser is out of jail and the woman or man is back with him or her.

WADVPress - You are one of the more obvious perpetrators of domestic violence that I have seen. Do you know how many times I have heard offenders say the exact same garbage that you are touting as fact? Many, many times. You left out the one where he "just pushed her to protect himself cause she went crazy and was beating on him". Unfortunately, there are women out there who will falsely accuse a man of beating her or in fact beat on the man but it is a minute percentage compared to the men who beat on women. That is why THERE HAS TO BE SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF VIOLENCE before they will arrest anybody. The police are not stupid. They can usually tell who is at fault in the first few minutes. Most men who have a history of domestic violence will NEVER admit they were at fault and I'm guessing you fall into that category. A man that will beat on a woman is nothing more than a bully but for most of them I think you can look back in their pasts and find an abusive parent. But for those women out there who falsely accuse a man of abuse I can find no excuse for their actions and I think they should be prosecuted for it and given the harshest sentence available under the law. But again, those women are fortunately few and far between.

Unless the violence perpetrator is in custody at the time of the follow up visit, I am not sure it's a good idea. Information is given on options at the time of the incident, a second visit may be seen as "official pressure" I don't see it as a function of the police. If the victim has chosen to remain with the violent person, it may lead to more problems, if the visit is seen by the violent spouse as he/she is being reported again. Sometimes "do gooders" unintentionally create more troubles.

The problem with this story that I can tell, is that it is not a typical, but a hand picked story representing the worst case of domestic violence. This is what advocates do. They make ALL DV cases seem like they're just like the one in this story. They are not.

The most typical of DV cases involve false allegations, mostly occurring in either divorce and/or child custody cases, where restraining orders are handed out like candy with no proof whatsoever that anything happened.

The second problem with this story is that women are just as violent as men: -
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.h...
http://wadvpress.org/?p=520

These FACTS are ignored by these advocates and "experts", and this costs many good men hundreds of thousands of dollars while their families are being alienated from them.

This had led to a mythology driven agenda:
http://wadvpress.org/?p=250

Those who TRULY care will work to clean this up, rather than going around vilifying men as they do now. Be careful what you wish for.

WADVPress
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Napalm unfortunately puts the worst spin on a well-known problem. It's called things like battered woman syndrome (or just Stockholm syndrome) and is a serious part of the overall DV problem.
http://aja.ncsc.dni.us/domviol/page6.htm...
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I have known victims of emotional abuse who have had tremendous difficulty severing their connections with their abuser, despite knowing what the problem is. The minute they begin to think independently, the abuser can -- even without being present -- evoke feelings of sympathy and concern about what that person's life will be like without the victim around.
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We had a tenant in a similar state with an ex-boyfriend and baby daddy. Even with a restraining order in place she would flip back and forth between asking us to help keep him off the property and to ignore her when she invited him back. (It was probably no coincidence that they set up living quarters only a block apart.) We had windows and doors broken down, among other damage. Ultimately we worked with social services to find her living arrangements in another town entirely. But the child is always going to be a connection between them, so she'll never be able to completely sever things.

Napalm, how horrible that you're blaming victims of domestic violence, rather than the men that perpetrate the abuse. Very smart and capable women find themselves in abusive relationships - abusers use many tactics to perpetrate their abuse. If you look at the "power and control wheel" (Google it), you'll see that many of their tactics are intended to make women second-guess themselves and cut their ties to loved ones.
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If anyone's reading this, and is in a domestic violence situation, you need to reach out. Tell a friend or a family member what's going on - and I mean *all* of it. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1−800−799−SAFE. But think of your kids and ask yourself: Do I want my son to grow up and act like this? Do I want to show my daughter that this is normal? Very often, that's what will get you through this. There is life on the other side, I promise.

Napalm: Maybe you should do a little bit of research on DV and the cycle of viloence before you start making comments about "stupid woman letting their mind overide their heart". That's the problem with society today. We, as a whole, have lost all sensitivity and compassion. I think if we cared half as much as we judged, the world would be a much happier and more productive place... not to mention safer.
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I am a proud survivor of DV and it was one of the most difficult things I have done in my life, and I had quite a few more things in my favor than several other victims. It's often a horrible combination of codependancy, low self-esteem, and the abuser's control that makes it so difficult to leave. If you look at it as a whole it's much more difficult than packing your bags and leaving. And often woman (or even men) are unaware of the resources available to help them to get out of the situation. I was unaware of that help for a long time, and even once I did it was a waiting game. It's often unsafe to just up and leave, it has to be planned ahead. And even with a plan their has to be an oppurtunity to put that plan into action, without risking another altercation. I think it's important for any victim of DV to know that there is help available 24/7/365 by simply calling 608-752-2583. And even if you can't get out at that exact moment, or if you are unsure of what you want to do, they can offer you several resources and assistance. I saw a sign that said "No Home Should Ever Hurt", and I cried because I realized how true such a simple statement was. I live my life now with that in mind every day. My home with never be a source of hurt... weather physical, emotional, or mental. There is no excuse for abuse and I think we all need to have a hand in puting a stop to it.

i know of a woman whos baby daddy choked and slammed her to the ground. she was arrested for domestic violence along with him. she did nothing wrong and only wanted to pick her children up. she had deep gashes on her back and elbow. come to find out they did not file charges on her behalf even though she wanted to press charges. the police protected her baby daddy from charges and jail time because he was and still a confidential informant for the local and federal police. what a joke. the sad part is it is a true story.

Can someone give me the stats on the number of women police officers? Studies have shown that two officers, one female and one male, often do the best dealing with domestic violence cases.