And no mczam. The character hasn't been low in the Town til the Chief made things miserable for the officers who stuck up for what was right when they did a vote of no confidence because he made racial slurs. Heonly got 4 hrs of diversity training. What a big fat JOKE. He is trying to hold the officers to a higher standard than he himself holds! That is NOT a mark of a good leader!!!!!!!!

wisconsinheat - It's not clouded one bit. The public wants the best of both worlds. But they have to understand they HAVE to have some "Ol School" guys around. Thats all I'm saying.

fanoffun10...most of what you say is very true. However, it has become evident in your posts that your passion for law enforcement is clouding the overall picture of serving the public.

Long story short...I don't believe most of the public thinks the end justifies the means.

mczam - Chief Tilley was a good leader. He led by example, not policies. He was out there doing what his troops did day in and day out. As much as you may not like his hard nose approach, his troops and him got results. A lot like General Patton did. Yeah, his mouth spoke how he felt, but he wasn't running for election, he was protecting the Town of Beloit citizens. And no one has done it better.
I could name a copper from EVERY single department in Rock County that was like Tilley. You may not like their style, but you love their results. Results like lower crime, provided superior leadership, operated within their budgets, and made criminals want to stay away from them.
Criminals have rights, but they don't have the right to violate someone's property, freedom, and well being. Being taken into custody shouldn't be a "fun" thing. It should be a night that no one wants to experience. I'm not talking about brutality. I'm talking about let the wheels of justice start turning. If not, you get a doctor who shoots a criminal in his home and has to spend thousands to defend himself against a lawsuit and public embarrassment for protecting his own.
The public has to stop judging good coppers for keeping them safe. Each time you judge them, you make it harder for them to do what you pay them to do. Their jobs. They shouldn't be P.R. people, cuz they aren't up for re-election. They are street coppers. You may not like their attitudes, but criminals hate dealing with them more then you. Tilley made coppers like this and with crime on the rise, you need coppers like that around.

Let's clear up a few things:
1. License plate lamp stops, it's a 15 minute interaction for Joe Citizen. But it's a tool that makes a criminal think twice about coming thru a place that stops vehicles for minor things. To a criminal, it says I'm going to have a difficult time getting in and out of that area without being stopped. Be thankful that coppers are sending that message out.
2. Every department has coppers that could star in "The Shield". These coppers make criminals nervous. Cuz, they are the ones that will fight fire with fire. Another words, walk the line of policies, to get "Bad Guys" off your streets. You can tell who they are. People describe them as "Pri*ks, Jerks, or Hard A$$". They tell ya how it is, not some politically correct story. As much as you want to hate them, they get the job done and make criminals stay clear. And yes, some criminals think about who is on duty before they decide to do the crime.
So before you curse about an aggressive officer, remember this quote:
"And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."
I rather have that person defending my streets than coppers whining about personality conflicts. Get out there and do your job, not cry about spilled milk.

Amazed, the point is, Town of Beloit officers have been low character individuals for a very long time. In the City you will not find the same injustice.

One more of Tilley's cronies gone. How many are left? The Town of Belot PD is a joke. That department operates via small town thinking, ie 'if I don't know you, you are getting the shaft'. The Town should hire more City of Beloit personnel.

Poor town of beloit. I fear for your children and loved ones. Most of the good officers are gone. You should fear for the good ones remaining. Take care of yourselves and watch your backs. The chief may just have you all in his sights. Remember, it's the town that pays for his disarray and his harassment. It's the town that pays in the end. He will move on, again and do this, again. He will take his bigot self and reign over some other poor unsuspecting people. Wherever he may go. Hopefully they will see the truth and find middle ground between all the bloggers. Both sides fighting so furociously for what they want to come out. Fact is, the chief has to go.

hay site staff OK this guy was an angel NOT.

Wrong you are Bobbysue, Wrong you are!!!!!!
Your comments make no sense. Noone spends thousands of dollars on lawsuits and lawyer fees in "hopes" they get some sort of settlement. And the vote was unanimous until 2 officers recinded thier vote. Out of those 2 officers, one became the next detective and the other was allowed to "run amuck" within the police dept doing whatever she darn well pleased w/ no dicipline filed against her.

after the new chief came to town the chiefs
pets are sad ones at that pulling over cars
and telling the driver there licenceplate lite
is out but it's not .that's there way to see if
you have had a beer after work and your on your
way home they will give there own mom a ticket
THEY NEED TO CLEAN THERE HOUSE AND SEND THE CHEIF BACK DOWN SOUTH

Amen Amazed. The Town better wake up soon. The worst part is, if you are a town resident, your police dept is down to 5 officers because of this mess. Basically,ONE per SHIFT. How safe do you think the residents will feel now? However the fire dept can continue hiring, but there is a "budget crisis"? Its a shame that the vote of no confidence from the union members against the chief brought out some sort of crazy confidence in the chief from the Town Board members. Funny how all this bad press, retirements, demotions and discipline all started after they hire a new admin assistant, consultant(from Beloit PD) after the vote came down against the chief. The dedicated employees are treated like crap and leave and the "new hires" apparently are loyal in other ways. Can't wait for the lawsuit to come out. It will prove how crooked and unethical the chief and the Administration of the Town have been. I cannot believe that Town Administrator Museus is so blind to all of this. He should have paid better attention in college during his accounting & ethics classes.

Sgt Abegglen is one of 5 employees that has either retired or resigned recently. People don't just resign or even retire in this enconomy. People need to think about that and wonder why this this happening. It's because these employees are fed up! They have been put through the ringer and have been asked to do the unthinkable and when they refused, They were all of a sudden "bad cops". This PFC committee has been hired by the town and anything but impartial or unbias. One of the members is on a planning committee for the town and another is seen coming and going from the townhall to see the town administrator. Why wouldn't these officers not want to take their chances? It's a joke and they know that no matter what is said they will be in the wrong!
Now, I'm sure someone else will blog negatively
and I guess that is thier right. But, the truth will come out in federal court. Why federal court, you ask? Because these officers and employees have suits pending and guilty people don't file lawsuits, if they think they won't win. And that's a fact!

Snarly - Willie has earned his retirement. Almost 30 yrs of service and you think a personality conflict with a co-worker the last couple years should cost him his retirement ?

Let's spin it a different direction, let's say you're a honorable employee for 20 yrs. They hire a butt kisser that crys everytime you look at him. Does that mean you should be striped of your 20 yrs ?

No criminal charges have ever been filed against him for his personality conflict with his co-worker. The co-worker isn't going to sue the town of Beloit. First thing they teach, "Don't bite the hand that feeds ya" in public service. Once you do that, you better look for work elsewhere. And who wants to hire a copper that sued his last dept ? Certainly not an municipality that I know.

People have no idea what it's like being a copper. You play the game. You give up parties (Friend's kid's graduation, Dept X-mas, Super Bowl, etc) to avoid any potential problems (that kid your buddy's kid brought, is he of age ?) You give up family time when off duty (hey your a cop. Can my neighbor do this ? Hey, there is deputy Smith, is he drinking ?) And that isn't even at work.....

But he will get his retirement and not be held accountable for his action's, but if the person who was harassed sue's the town of beloit then its a hole new situation.

what a bunch of crap you break the rules you get the boot. BAD COP he should not get his retirement.

bobb1951 - Ever been in front of a Police Commission ? It's not a court of law, it's a dog & pony show. It's not about who's right or wrong, it's about do you want EVERYONE to know you left the toliet set up, didn't dot an "i" in a report, or would you rather just walk away and not given them the satisfaction ?

Trust me, when they turn the microscope on you, it's about ruining your name or career, not about what you did. They may want your position for a "yes man", they may want your position because your a threat to them, they may want you gone because you have "dirt" on them....lots of reasons for the microscope.

Being a copper isn't like the majority of jobs. When someone has a bone for ya, they use the power of public humiliation on you.

bobb1951 - Willie will get everything any other copper gets when they retire. He put almost 30 years in, he has earned his retirement.

And I can tell ya, Willie is anything but a coward. I would say he is tired of the inner-department politics and having to walk on egg shells so he doesn't hurt someone's feelings and they cry at work.

Willie has saved and influenced more lives then any fellow officer on the department. When the chips were down, Willie would be there to help anyone. Unlike some officers who rather finish their lunch or report before heading out the door on a call.

Everyone overlooks that Willie has served the Town of Beloit for almost 30 years. Each day placing himself in harms way to protect the residents of the town.

Thanks Willie for making the Town of Beloit what it is today. Guys like you and J.D. set the standard that kept the bad guys from wanting to come out in the town to do crimes.

People don't get that times have changed for good coppers, but not for the criminals. Good coppers don't handout teddy bears and hugs, they handout saftey and peaceful nights to the residents. Hang your head high my brother, you've earned it.

Good. The reports of his unprofessional behavior were very disturbing.