Toyota resale value, reputation fall from heights

By DAVE CARPENTER   Tuesday, Feb. 9, 2010
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Laura Benin poses with her 2009 Toyota Corolla LE outside her home in the Queens borough of New York, Saturday, Feb. 6, 2010.

— The Toyota in your garage is losing value by the week.

Kelley Blue Book dropped the resale values of recalled Toyotas for the second time in four days Monday, leaving them as much as 4 percent or $300 to $750 lower than a week ago, depending on the model.

Recalls and a slow response to safety questions have put a dent in the market value of cars long seen as money in the bank for their owners.

As values drop and safety issues keep surfacing, the world's No. 1 carmaker faces increasing risks that even long-steadfast customers will defect.

After all, a key factor in Toyota's rise to the top was its reputation for quality vehicles with high resale values. If its used cars no longer live up to their formerly lofty reputation, then getting buyers in the showroom may be harder and its long-time market strength could be in jeopardy.

"Toyota has fantastic loyalty, but this is definitely going to have a real erosion in that," says Juan Flores, director of vehicle valuation for Kelley, which just two months ago named Toyota the best brand for resale value.

The auto research Web site Edmunds.com estimates resale or trade-in values could fall up to 10 percent in the short term. How far they drop over the longer haul will depend how long the confusion lingers.

Already, some dealers are refusing to accept Toyotas for trade while others are paying considerably less than they did just two weeks ago.

The latest reduction by Kelley reflects both Toyota's apparent lack of confidence in its vehicles and a dramatic drop in customer interest in Toyotas, according to Flores. It does not take into account a possible recall involving its prized Prius gas-electric hybrid over a brake problem, which news reports in Japan said was expected to be announced on Tuesday.

Toyota Motor Corp. has so far recalled more than 7 million cars in the U.S., Europe and China over a sticky accelerator and floor mats that can get caught in the gas pedal.

"If the recall is expanded, we could see some further softening," Flores says.

Since the first recall for sticky accelerator pedals on Jan. 21, Edmunds' estimate for the trade-in value of a 2009 Toyota Camry has fallen by 4 percent to 6 percent to $13,967 while the 2009 Toyota Corolla has declined 6 percent to $11,233.

"My advice to a consumer would be 'If you don't have to trade one in, wait,'" says Michelle Krebs, senior analyst for Edmunds. "Values will stay down for a bit. But Toyota's got really strong brand equity."

The news has unnerved more than a few consumers who had viewed Toyota as a bulletproof brand for quality.

Laura Benin, 34, of New York City chose a 2009 Corolla for her first car purchase a year ago because of Toyota's stellar reputation. Now she's reluctant to drive her car even after the potential acceleration problem is fixed, but knows this is a bad time to try to sell it.

"It's a little bit scary to think the car with the greatest reputation for safety is in the situation it's in now," she says.

Those who are anxious to sell without waiting for a value rebound can turn to the Japanese automaker's rivals. GM, Ford and Chrysler all have announced similar programs that involve offering $1,000 in incentives to Toyota owners who buy their vehicles.

Car dealers are also facing uncertainty.

At River Oaks Chrysler-Jeep in Houston, general manager Alan Helfman told his used car manager to knock 30 to 40 percent of the book value off any recalled Toyotas or Prius hybrids traded in.

"You've got to get them fixed," he said. "You've got to take them in at greatly reduced value."

Chuck Eddy, a Chrysler dealer in Youngstown, Ohio, said he's heard of other dealers refusing to take recalled Toyotas in trade, but said he'll still take them at reduced values.

Two auction houses, where dealers sell trade-ins if they decide not to keep them, have told his dealership that they won't take recalled Toyotas due to legal liability fears. Eddy says customers are nervous about buying Toyotas and the auction houses have further limited his resale options.

Despite the problems, many drivers appear to be sticking with the brand, however uneasily. Leasetrader.com, which acts as matchmaker between buyers and sellers of car leases, says that of several thousand people on a waiting list to take over Toyota leases, fewer than 30 have canceled.

American drivers pushed Toyota's reputation to an unrealistically high level and now a natural adjustment will occur that benefits Ford and General Motors, says John Wolkonowicz, a senior auto analyst for North America at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Mass.

Another recall beyond the Prius would be absolutely devastating for Toyota, according to Wolkonowicz.

"Toyota has a loyal corps of baby-boomer buyers who have owned Toyotas for decades," he says. "They're going to stand by Toyota unless they feel they'll look foolish for doing so. All hell will break loose if there's another recall."

Jack Fitzgerald, who owns 12 dealerships including two Toyota stores in the Washington, D.C., area, said he would buy every used Toyota he can get because he's confident they will retain their value.

Fitzgerald said the recall concerns are overblown and should pass quickly once Toyota gets the repair parts to dealers.

"I'm buying every one I can get," he said. "I can't wait for the village idiot to dump his Toyota for nothing. I can certainly make money on it."

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Associated Press Writer Tom Krisher in Detroit contributed to this report.

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thekid3477
Feb 11, 2010 at 11:53 a.m.
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can you please explain to me how im wrong or do you prefer the childish name calling??

dmfd24
Feb 10, 2010 at 8:49 p.m.
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The Kid....thats just a it you sound like a stupid kid...you are ignorant and probably don't have a very good education. Your views on marijuana laws are very good. On this subject you are wrong.

Badgerlvr
Feb 10, 2010 at 9:29 a.m.
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Redhawk: I think you really need to change your moniker to REDNECK.

Rocky
Feb 10, 2010 at 9:11 a.m.
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Great! I was looking for a good bargain in a used vehicle! Toyotas are going to get a look from me, now!

thekid3477
Feb 10, 2010 at 8:48 a.m.
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and redhawk: im aware they build most of their vehicles here in the united states. my point was that they are building vehicles in canada, mexico and who knows where else...WHILE WE HAVE ABLE WORKERS AND EMPTY PLANTS

btw...congrats!! by not even knowing my first name and deciding to call me 'un-american' you win the juvenile post of the day!! you can stop by the office after school and pick up your award and a nice note to take home to mommy!!

thekid3477
Feb 10, 2010 at 8:45 a.m.
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dmfd: the money goes overseas, and returns to american workers. im sorry you see that as a problem. do you prefer to watch our auto companys get filthy rich and then beg for a handout?? im sorry i lost your support. not aware i was running for office but in case of future political ventures...im sorry i lost your support.

redhawk: i apologize if my pseudo-intelligence level is not equal to yours. i however pulled nothing out of my dollar signs. i didnt phrase that exactly right...80% of all hondas/acuras SOLD in the united states are built right here in the united states.

http://autos.aol.com/article/foreign-car...

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/11/honda...

redhawk
Feb 10, 2010 at 12:54 a.m.
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the kid, are you really that stupid? GM builds most of it's vehicles here in the U.S. Toyota and Honda don't build 80 percent of there vehicles in the U.S. and you know it. You pulled that number out of your a$$. You're just another un-American who refuses to support your own country. That's ok, just don't come crying to us when your job gets shipped overseas.

redhawk
Feb 10, 2010 at 12:10 a.m.
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Badgerlver. Funny you should mention it, but I do have a Magnavox, two of them to be exact. And you have no idea how many of my shirts or jeans or shoes or any other articles of my clothing are made overseas. So you best think before you speak, dumbass. I shop for "Made in U.S.A." before I buy anything, and if you took the time to look, you would find American made products to buy too, if you even cared.

JohnDoe
Feb 9, 2010 at 11:18 p.m.
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If only it were that simple...kid and gary...I'm not going to do the math for you...but when it comes to the bottom line, and which country reaps the most benefit...smoke and mirrors are an American icon.

garyprimer
Feb 9, 2010 at 9:59 p.m.
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The money doesn't go overseas, it comes here. When the cars are sold, they give us money for them. It's not really very complicated.

dmfd24
Feb 9, 2010 at 9:26 p.m.
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the kid....it matters cuz the money goes over seas. You have lost all of my support with that comment. By American the money stays here.

Badgerlvr
Feb 9, 2010 at 7:26 p.m.
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Redhawk: Buy American huh? What kind of television do you watch? Unless you watch a Magnivox, all other televisions are made in Japan. What about your camera? None made in the U.S. today. I'll bet two-thirds of the shirts in your closet are not MADE IN THE USA. Best think before you speak.

thekid3477
Feb 9, 2010 at 5:03 p.m.
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btw...last i heard the honda accord was the number one imported car...INTO JAPAN AND BUILT BY AMERICAN WORKERS

thekid3477
Feb 9, 2010 at 5:01 p.m.
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some people crack me up. toyota and honda build about 80% of their cars here in the united states. BY AMERICAN WORKERS. GM is building cars in countries outside of the united states...while we have empty plants and unemployed workers. tell me why we should support an 'american' company that doesnt support us??

redhawk
Feb 9, 2010 at 4:25 p.m.
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No Redder, you're the ignorant one. We don't have fair trade laws with Japan. They add tariffs to what we export to them, then dump their junk in the U.S. and people are dumb enough and cheap enough to buy it, then complain when there are no good paying jobs in our country. Don't worry about Toyota though, I'm sure the Japanese government will subsidize any loses they incure because of this.

catdog
Feb 9, 2010 at 4:14 p.m.
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Yea, built in the U.S. with parts imported from where?????

redder
Feb 9, 2010 at 3:54 p.m.
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redhawk, If the world was as ignorant as you the Americans would export nothing, thus you would loose your job...its a world economy people wake up, its the poloticians who need to enforce the fair trade laws and make sure they get as much as we get....try to vote...not whine

DwightKSchrute
Feb 9, 2010 at 2:40 p.m.
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The Toyota Camry is almost exclusively built in the US by US workers.

vatoloco
Feb 9, 2010 at 2:36 p.m.
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Yeah.....People could buy American cars or any other bigger items if they only COULD GET JOBS!

Always crack up whem we have narrow minded folks who do not understand that many more American people are employed because of the exports American companies produce.

catdog
Feb 9, 2010 at 2:30 p.m.
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Buy American--The job you save may be your own!!

redhawk
Feb 9, 2010 at 2:11 p.m.
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One comment so far! Come on people, I want to hear from the unpatriotic people who buy this Japanese crap tell me how much better Toyotas are than American cars.

woody
Feb 9, 2010 at 9:35 a.m.
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Resale value is all about the publics PERCEPTION of value.

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