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So, Zoom, let's believe what vatoloco says instead ... yeah, right.

The amount of hate in Janesville is a direct correlation to the redneck population. confederate flags on their trucks tell the whole story. You lost the war traitors !

this community is so hateful. i am ashamed to be from janesville. i cannot wait until i move away from this town. i will forever be embarassed to be from this hateful uneducated town.

It's already happening Zoom, wake up!

Please don't believe everything this administration is telling you.

Where do you idiots get the idea that immigrants, with or without HIV/AIDS, will get free health care?

Let's see if I have this right: Obama and his Obami followers claim there is a health care crisis in our country; so the prophet/messiah Obama is going to let non-Americans with AIDS come to our country for hyper-expensive treatment when we can't afford to take care of our own!?! And who will pay for that, why the poor suckers who pay taxes of course. That’s spreading YOUR wealth around!

I think they should take every person who comes into this country with HIV and allow them to spend a nice, toasty weekend with the Obama family at the White House! Maybe Mr. President wouldn't be so apt to charm the pants of some of those people they way he has the rest of this ignorant country!

The Obami are restless!

That quote basically says
"Give me your leftover crap and we'll try to make something out of it...no one else would try!"
A summary of what that quote meant to you, or what you meant by it would have been beneficial instead of a random thought you yourself didn't bother to come up with.
Not really something I like to be proud of.
When you get done polishing a turd...what do you get? You still get a turd.

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

borrowed

vatoloco, you have a bad habit of overstating every single policy made by the administration to support your views.

When businesses ask the U.S. government for a bailout, the government becomes the lender of last resort. Lenders have have every right to influence executive pay, until that company repays what they barrowed. This is also true in the private sector. At no time has the administration tried to reduced the salary of an executive that hasn't received a bailout.

The Obama administration has never tried to SILENCE Fox news. Another complete lie.

It says that people there (NY 23) still like big governemnt and big spenders. It's infested with Democrats who like to overindulge in other people's money. Suck the life out of hard working Americans.

1. Where are the jobs? Most of them here in Wisconsin went to the blood sucking teacher's unions.
2. How long have we been fighting the war on poverty? 30-35 years? Where has it gotten us? People need to start rising above the need to rely on their government to serve their every need.

You know Diego, why don't you read the Constitution? It states that the powers of the government should be limited. Where does Obama get off trying to limit what some of the CEO's make per year. For that reason alone Obama should be impeached. A salary is a part of one's pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. One of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard of.

One more thing, a communist goal is to control all forms of media for obvious reasons. What is the Obama administration doing in trying to silence FOX? Again, a communist goal to silence those who oppose it's policies.

cty- and what does the race in NY 23 say?

Hmmmmm........Looks like Virginia, New Jersey & New York are making at statement tonight!!! We will make the White House listen with our votes!

Ummmmm? What was this article about? I forgot and so did all of you. If you want to argue, take it elsewhere. Very annoying!!

"The question is what has the private sector done to resolve the situiation?"

What situation? Companies are thier to provide opportunities and capital so people can have jobs, not take care of society. Companies are not social service agencies.

Diego,

I agree. Some people need some help like the unemployed, disabled, and the elderly. But it would be safe to say that most of the federal and state social service programs have had a bad influence on our society because it sends a message to some people that they do not have to work that hard. I also agree that the government needs to protect us from some things but more government is not the way to go. The reason we are experiencing most problems today is becasue of the expanded governmental role. Government needs to stay out of our lives.

"Thus even though they live their lives without really helping anyone, the political activism they engage in is dedicated to convincing themselves that they are truly good people." I don't think you can group everyone together on this one. I follow the teachings of my god which state that I should not go around telling everyone about my good deeds, so you wouldn't know what I do to improve the lives of my fellow man. I would rather take the chance that a government program MIGHT help than doing nothing and KNOWING that they are not being helped. To say that no government program has worked is a falsehood. Government programs do work, which is not to say that it is perfect. While medicare isn't perfect, what was happening to old people before it? They had to work until they died or starve. Welfare has provided to people in need although it has been abused. Unemployment compensation has helped giving people a hand while they find a new job. Workers compensation has helped to get workers money when they have been injured on the job. Before if you were hurt on the job, too bad for you. If a woman were to get pregnant she might lose her job, now she is able to retain it. The GI bill has helped millions of people. Don't say that they have never worked. That is an obvious fallacy. If you want to say they need reform, that would be a much better argument.

Don Diego.....It is NOT the only answer--instituting a "public option" could be compared with throwing fuel on a fire. The current "public option"(Medicare) is a complete disaster--They underpay for services, are overrun with fraud, and without the constant injection of more and more taxpayer dollars, would be completely broke.....It is NOT the government's job to insure that everyone has what they need--at some point people have to start taking responsibility for themselves. Very few of the people that I know who are driven and motivated to better themselves, look to the government as providers. This liberal mindset where the government is there to coddle us though life just breeds apathy.........

Vatoloco- GM's failure was not going to bring down the entire system.

Many of you speak of the mismanagement of the government programs, which can hardly be debated. The question is what has the private sector done to resolve the situiation? NOTHING!!! Do you believe that the insurance companies are going to regulate themselves? If government doesn't act nothing will happen. Medical spending is increasing at an unsustainable rate and the conservative response is "Don't worry. It will take care of itself." Please. Perhaps the government option is not the greatest answer, but so far it is the only answer. Tell wise conservatives, how do we stop the massive amounts of bankruptcies due to medical costs? How do we insure that everyone has what they need? How do we make sure that no one is denied a procedure their doctor reccommends? You have no solutions or if you did, why didn't you do something about it during the 6 years the Republicans controlled the government? Inaction never solved anything!

"I would rather spend my last dime providing shelter or care to the homeless and sick then to turn them down. If for no other reason it gives my conscious a rest knowing we tried."

Typical liberal motto, "We care more than anyone".

Liberals are obsessed with demonstrating their putative "moral superiority." Thus even though they live their lives without really helping anyone, the political activism they engage in is dedicated to convincing themselves that they are truly good people. Liberals are driven by the need to validate the unspoken assertion that "I care more than you do," which is ironic in the extreme since none of the government programs liberals have designed can be shown to have an overall positive influence in our society.

http://www.armchairviews.com/commie.htm

vatoloco,
It all seems so logical to those of us who see through the smoke and mirrors. I cannot understand how anyone can argue against what you just said. The only explanation I can come up with is that there are those who completely trust the government to every aspect of their life, while not wanting to see the truth about what our government has done in the past and is doing to us at this exact moment.

"I and thousands (if not millions) are not offered insurance through our jobs. We, too, deserve a better choice."

SarahB1-You trust the governemnt to administer your healthcare when they cvannot even run the post office, Medicare or the cash for clunkers program?

Protect us from companies whose failures can bring down an entire system?

Like GM? GM failed for lack of innovation and the strong arm of the overpaid UAW unions. Yet we are supposed to let them borrow billions that we will never see. Obama is conveninetly funding all the union bosses who,like regular union members, suck the life out of many organizations.

Protect us from companies who major objective is to earn a profit no matter who gets hurt?

Profits create jobs. That's why I do not understand why this adminsitration is so blind to see that more taxation is going to result in more lost jobs, unemployment, and crime. And, uninsured Americans. You cannot fight the fire while your feeding the flame. Taxation and more governemnt regulations is one fo the biggest reasons companies move ouf of this country. Look at what causes these companies to fail. Small businesses will be taxed more. Consequently, more businesses will close. That's why it is not a good idea to let unions run any businesses.

Totellthetruth: You need to change your username. Maybe to "overthetop".

Zoom,

This was directed at Diego, not you. Speak only when called on.

Only a coward would post an insult in another language.

Mi dios dice que Diego es gordo y feo.

Don Diego,
Life begins at conception, period. Executing someone for a crime is murder. Neither are ok.
I actually have never seen a NASCAR race, but you know what? I bet that most of the people watching it and wearing a mullet have the same conservative christian values that I have. So, I bet I would be a great fit!
And, yes my God is a mighty force to deal with when it comes to worshiping other false gods and sinning. In the end, you will bow down to Him and worship him as I do. I hope you see the truth and the light before then because he has a lot of great things for you while you are here.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...

This was an excellent opinion piece posted in another thread.......

Zoom.....My comment regarding legal immigrants having access to our health care system was in response to your statement that they wouldn't--You wrote "Legal Immigrants, with or without HIV/AIDS, will NOT get free health care, just like they don't now"
Please proof your posts more carefully to avoid anymore confusion.

I support the party that can do one thing right period!!!!! Don't you think they should make Medicare work--rid it of the $500 billion in waste and fraud--and set up the public option with what was learned from that? I don't care what percentage of Americans will access the public option--that shouldn't matter at all. Prove to the country that you can fix your broken insurance company(Medicare) before you establish another one which will most definitely have the same issues.

My god is compassionate and loving and will kick butt...hmmm, lets think about that contradiction.

My god says that a couple of cells does not constitute life. My god says just in case the legal system under which you sentence people to death has flaws, you shouldn't put people to death just in case they were innocent.

My god also tells me to tell you to stop watching NASCAR and cut off your mullet!

Protect us from companies whose failures can bring down an entire system?

Protect us from companies who major objective is to earn a profit no matter who gets hurt?

By providing basic, affordable health care they are protecting us from those that seek to profit from misery. When a company denies a claim because it doesn't fit with their bottom line, who protects us? When the #1 reason people go bankrupt is uncovered health care costs, who prtects us?

Don Diego,
So "your god" says abortion is ok, but executing a convicted murderer, child rapist.......is wrong!!! Seriously, please clarify your statement because if this is what you believe then it explains a lot about you.
I will take all of the heat that can be dished out, because my God is compassionate and loving and will kick butt when he has to. I wouldn't ever want to be on any other team!

The government is designed to protect us, not provide for us.

“Besides that sentence not making sense, you're comparing health care to driving a car? Huh? Do you want to limit health care to anyone over the age of 16 too, and require them to have a license? Ridiculous.”
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Ridiculous is stating you don’t understand the sentence and then formulate a conclusive statement of an age barrier to healthcare from something not said. If you don’t understand the statement ask for a clarification.

“Again, the public option is estimated by the C.B.O. to be used by only 2% of the population. It's importance in the overall reform plan is greatly overstated, by both parties.”
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More government flawed logic echoed by people anxious for the outcome without looking at the facts.

It will be cheaper for most companies to stop providing insurance coverage and pay an 8% fee (tax) on payroll to the government than it is to purchase insurance for their employees; what program will these employees use?

It will be cheaper for a self employed person to pay the 2-3 % fee on gross income and not pay for insurance until something drastic happens; what program will cover these people? Best yet, after treatment they can stop their insurance coverage (safe money again) and wait for the next catastrophic incident then purchase insurance again, can’t be rejected; again under what option?

Look at just two small examples of government run health care for examples of misguided assumptions on cost and number of people that will take coverage, the States of Hawaii and Massachusetts. The program in Hawaii failed in less than a year; flawed expectations of participants. Massachusetts health care budget has suffered to the extreme, now having the longest wait times for heath care in the whole nation; flawed expectation of costs.

This program will cause the whole nation to suffer as bad or worse than Massachusetts….nice.

cty- My god says it isn't wrong to control birth populations through abortions. If you want abortions to be illegal you have your recourse. Just change the law or move to a country that has a theocracy which supports your god's law.

My god also says that executing someone is wrong but the state sponsors that.

Vatoloco- nice gang name by the way. I don't know who was bashing christians and transvestites. When christians started mixing politics with christianity they opened themselves up to criticism. You have to accept the good with the bad. If a teacher uses the union to put forth an agenda then they open themselves to criticism by the public. They can't be upset by that. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

"Maybe next time you drive your car you should think about the car maker was trying to make a profit, can't drive a car."

Besides that sentence not making sense, you're comparing health care to driving a car? Huh? Do you want to limit health care to anyone over the age of 16 too, and require them to have a license? Ridiculous. Health care is the ONE service that should be provided to our citizens without the profit motive of insurance companies driving the health decisions for their customers.

"Hispanic Caucus Institute in a speech on Wednesday. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else."

Sure does make it sound like that those here legally will have access to our health care program......doesn't it?"

Yes, people here LEGALLY will have access to our health care system. Thank you for stating the obvious. That doesn't mean health care will be free. Note that Obama says AFFORDABLE. "Affordable" does not equal "free".

"Clean that up FIRST-let the government prove that it can be made viable--and then they can start pushing for a public option......'

Oh, that's right, you support the party that can only do one thing at a time.

Again, the public option is estimated by the C.B.O. to be used by only 2% of the population. It's importance in the overall reform plan is greatly overstated, by both parties.

Don Diego:

I always find it funny that liberals openly bash Christians but harass those who make fun of a transvestite.

Also, you want to make it seem that you care more than anyone else. Don't we dare say that you don't because thats a sin.

SarahB1 it sounds like you should find someone who does not like to make a profit. You should then work for free and share everyone's fruits that are grown in a garden. Maybe next time you drive your car you should think about the car maker was trying to make a profit, can't drive a car. Don't you dare support the president, because he is trying to make profit in his job too. You just can't trust anyone can you. Every business should be in business to see how much loss they can generate...

Sarah.....It makes no sense that you don't trust the insurance companies, but have complete faith in the government to efficiently run it's own insurance company. Tell you what--Obama basically came out and admitted that there was over $500 BILLION in waste and fraud within the current insurance company that it is operating(Medicare). Clean that up FIRST-let the government prove that it can be made viable--and then they can start pushing for a public option......

916WI: I am insurable, but I also eagerly await a public option. I do not trust the insurance companies; they are out for a profit and I have been burned in the past. Unfortunately, right now, I and thousands (if not millions) are not offered insurance through our jobs. We, too, deserve a better choice.

LOL! I don't think their pain tolerance is high enough! Maybe they should have to sit through a few of them and see what actually happens to these little ones. And also see a live birth from a failed abortion. Each and every aborted fetus should be named and have a funeral (at the parents expense).

"Then for those who so strongly support abortions...."

cty, I was also thinking that for those who so strongly support abortion, perhaps they could have a retro abortion performed on themselves, they or someone could report to us on how that works out for them.

I also believe that the illegals don't have many abortions, but one is too many. The abortions that will need tax money would be welfare recipients. If you can't afford a baby, you shouldn't have a baby. We need birth control and adoptions.
I would love to see a tax law that: Provides a basic rate (based on income) that would cover necessary things such as running our government and national defense. Then for those who so strongly support abortions and illegals receiving free health care and education can pay above that. If they are such strong supporters of these programs I am sure the don't mind paying more than those who don't.

"We will be paying for illegal immigrants healthcare as well as abortions."

If you mean abortions of the illegal invaders spawn this is not quite accurate. They get very few abortions, they need anchor babies, they sometimes come here to birth the child, it is automatically a citizen that way. Also, they have moral and other beliefs that don't allow them to murder the innocent.

Unfortunatly all too many of the children murdered by abortion are the children of citizens of this country. Think of it, 45 million since Roe v Wade. That is a lot of US citizens, a lot of potentially productive individuals, a lot of souls.

Don Diego,
How can you ask me to not answer a question like that "without emotion"? That is the problem now. Too many people like you believe that it is ok to murder a baby, and therefore do not allow yourselves to feel the pain. I bet you if some politician or high judge declared that everyone with an IQ below 70 should be murdered or not allowed to reproduced, you would take an "emotional" stand.
Abortion is a man made law. I follow Gods' law, which supersedes mans law. Just because something is legal doesn't mean we should do it.
In the end, we all have to make decisions for the way we live. If you can sleep at night and not give issues like this a second thought then there is something seriously wrong.

BECAUSE most tax paying Americans DO NOT WANT to fund abortions! Life begins at conception! This is a huge issue for those of us who do not believe that murdering babies is okay. Use your own "earned" money to pay for your crime, NOT OURS!

Umm...last time I checked abortion is a legal procedure so why shouldn't it be covered? Please use logic not emotions when answering.

We need to stop comparing GWB to Obama, that just lowers our standards. We need to see what Obama is doing and not what he is saying, because they often times contradict each other. We will be paying for illegal immigrants healthcare as well as abortions. Wake up Americans!
Yes, spending that much money on this war is totally wrong, as is spending more than that just to rebuild what we destroyed. Especially, when we are giving them a big chunk of our money for their oil, they should use that money.

A drain projected to be paying higher premiums than the rest of us. And as your post says, those here LEGALLY could be covered.

Zoom......attached is a comment Obama made in a speech last week.

"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Obama told the Congressional
Hispanic Caucus Institute in a speech on Wednesday. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else."

Sure does make it sound like that those here legally will have access to our health care program......doesn't it?

As far as the CBO's 2% number is concerned--those that take the taxpayer financed public option will be those exactly like the HIV infected people that Obama is pushing become citizens of this country. They will be un-insurable by any other company. They will be an incredible drain on the resources of a system that will be already be stressed when it is put in place.

Let them all in, and give them free health care. That is the end goal, right? You know it.

"Universal healthcare for all (even illegals) and now let's give free care to everyone with HIV/AID."

Where do you people get this stuff? There will NOT be universal health care for all. The C.B.O. estimates that only 2% of the population would use the public option if it's passed. Illegals will NOT get free health care. Legal Immigrants, with or without HIV/AIDS, will NOT get free health care, just like they don't now.

There is never a good time to help. It is just a matter of deciding what is important. $1,000,000,000,000 for wars or health care.

Universal healthcare for all (even illegals) and now let's give free care to everyone with HIV/AID. This is insane considering we can't take care of the Americans that need help right now. We SHOULD help all of those in need, however we need to be in a better economic position as a country before we do this. We won't do the world any good by completely draining our resourses and making our hard working citizens resent our government and those in need for taking more and more of our families money.

shopierehuh: You hit the nail on the head, you have all these dems wanting to save all the people, or talk a good talk about it anyways but when is the last time you saw any of them take any of them into they'er house? obama wants to look good to the people but he uses the people's dime to do it on.

couchsit, although Bush commendably did not stand in the way of the bill (and was more committed to AIDS treatment funding than Reagan or his father), this legislation originated in Congress.
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thela...

"I would rather spend my last dime providing shelter or care to the homeless and sick then to turn them down. If for no other reason it gives my conscious a rest knowing we tried."

Don Diego, here is your chance to realise your dreams. There are some unfortunate alcoholic-homeless-bums in the vicinity of the Shirland Avenue Bridge and Turtle Creek area in Beloit. Would you please post your address, I will see that they come and stay with you for the winter or longer if need be.

I would also call your attention to the story of the cruise ship the St. Louis. In 1939, a cruise ship full of German Jews left to find safe harbor outside of Europe. They were refused at most all ports. A few lucky ones were allowed to enter but many were not so fortunate. They were forced to return to Europe and well....you can guess the rest. I would rather spend my last dime providing shelter or care to the homeless and sick then to turn them down. If for no other reason it gives my conscious a rest knowing we tried.

The article clearly states in the second sentence that the process for this action was started during the Bush administration. If anything, people should be on the media for giving Obama all the credit for this order when it was initiated by Bush. Instead, everyone is criticizing Obama for a Bush decision.

Dub-
1)Please re-read the article. This was a process started by Bush so I guess your ridiculous argument about being a waste of time could be applied to the aforementioned president.
2)You swear in your post, which is against the rules, then blame it on liberals trying to stop you from speaking?! I guess you can lead a conservative to logic but you can't make him think.

justaguy- You really don't understand Cash's lyrics

dondiego: like you said it was Jonny Cash who said that, obama's isn't god and maybe he's just letting them into our counrty for more new votes in 2012. I don't like seeing people going without or being sick or even dieing but is it up to all us US tax paying people to take care of them? obama with his nose up high next to G.W. is a joke.

You know of course that even if Obama decides to send more troops it won`t happen till next year. Whether he decides now, or in two weeks makes no difference. If they are needed so bad, why didn`t Bush send them when they were asked for? Why didn`t we have them there 8 years ago when the Taliban was almost destroyed? Oh, right, Iraq!

Spending time doing this, while our soldiers are dying in Afghanistan because he won't send help until the elections Tuesday. What an a$$! He doesn't deserve a peace prize, he deserves a poop prize, because that's what he's done, sh!t.
Now delete it Liberals. Silence me because I don't agree with you. Just like our leader does.

Well said, Don_Diego. Well said. It's too bad they won't be able to wrap their brains around that.

Uuuhhh, the "fixing" is in progress. Where have you been?

In stead of fixing our already escalating health care issues sure why not add more problems Im glad I didnt vote for him .
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shopiere- At least he is not standing in front of a banner that says Mission Accomplished!

Don_Diego: Great post!

They are playing games with this fellow's photos, putting him in with George Washington like that. George Washington was a great man who did great things. This fellow did....um,...ah... well. What an insult to the likes of George Washington. I think I will go throw up now.

Yes Wesgonson Ebola only attacks the ignorant, be sure to wear your facemask.

Yeah- a guy trying to be compassionate- What is he thinking? How come the people on the "right", who firmly believe they have "god" on their side, who espouse "christian" virtues, are the last ones who show true compassion. The son of the god they claim to follow hung out with the sick (lepers) and poor, and what is their response? There is no room at THIS inn!

Johnny Cash put it best: "Come here me good sisters
you're salt of the earth
If your salt isn't salted then what is it worth
You could give someone a cool drink if you would
You're so heavenly minded and you're no earthly good
No earthly good you are no earthly good

If you're holdin' heaven then spread it around
There are hungry hands reaching up here from the ground
Move over and share the high ground where you stood
So heavenly minded and you're no earthly good."

Forgive me if I find that position a little hypocritical. What would only be better is if you wore a What Would Jesus Do t-shirt while saying it.

This does not benefit American in any way. It's just another step towards the Socialist vision of Obama. Here is a statement from another article on Oct 8th.

"...President Barack Obama expressed that the final health care reform bill will include Medicaid coverage for HIV-Positive people.

At the moment, eligibility rules for Medicaid exclude most HIV-positive people from accessing it unless they become disabled."

The erosion continues is right, do people remember why we put the ban in place anyway? It is not unrealistic to place requirements on health before entering other countries...

Why ban entry on anyone disclosing it when people come over the boarder everyday, illegally, and are not stopped?

"The order will be finalized on Monday, Obama said, completing a process begun during the Bush administration." Even the village idiot knew this was stupid/ignorant. So those arguing in favor of keeping the ban....

He may be in the same photo as G.W. but he is no G. W.

Obama is just going back to his roots on this one.

Don't people with EBOLA deserve special rights also? Shouldn't WE BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THEIR IGNORANCE ALSO?

Now they're going to lift travel restrictions on people from foreign countries that carry THE AIDS VIRUS?

Whats next? Let them freely flow in if they carry TYPHOID, MALARIA, RABIES, GONORRHEA, SYPHYLLIS, or EBOLA?

And this is beneficial because....

And when there here-just like illegals--they will enjoy the E.R that can not turn them away and the translations services that cost hospitals millions a year (note to self-learn Arabic, Hmong, Spanish , any other--sorry not enough time) please raise my taxes (or "user fees") to pay for this also

The erosion continues

Zoom--I'm not talking about the health care expenses of illegal immigrants, I'm talking about the health care expense of HIV infected immigrants who enter the country legally. I guess I don't think it's fair for American taxpayers to be burdened with the expense of someone entering this country knowing they are going to cost the citizens of that country thousands(possibly hundreds of thousands) of dollars.

I had to laugh after reading your other post--nothing like selective posting:) The next paragraph of your article tells the true story--the projected plan will cost the taxpayers almost a trillion dollars over the next ten years. The CBO's attached disclaimer, "Those estimates are all subject to substantial uncertainty" is also too funny!!! As we all know from our experiences with Medicare the government tends to estimate conservatively to say the least......When it comes to true costs typically you can double their initial "estimates".....Thanks for helping to make my point:)

No legislation currently being discussed will pay for the health care costs of illegal immigrants. If you think people with HIV/AIDS are going to flood the country, expecting free health care, you're paranoid. Becoming a legal immigrant is a little more complicated than getting a visa and stepping off a plane.

916WI, good to see you've finaly revised your cost numbers. Unfortunately, you still aren't representing the facts correctly. According to CBO and JCT’s assessment, enacting H.R. 3962 would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $104 billion over the 2010–2019 period.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=403

fromjanesville...You sure about that? Taking into consideration the fact that the majority of taxpayers don't want to cover the health care expense of "healthy" American citizens, I seriously doubt that they will be up to cover the massive expenses of infected immigrants.....What the heck though--Obama's "reform" is already going to cost us $1,000,000,000,000. What's another couple of hundred million going to hurt.....:)

Hannah: I think you are referring to Magic Johnson.

916WI the answer is yes.

janesvillean- yes one is on commercials now. The basketball guy. brain fart cant think of name.

I completely agree with travel restrictions being lifted, but with the upcoming "free" health care legislation that is being forced upon us, will the American taxpayer now be responsible for the massive medical expense that HIV infected immigrants bring to our country?

What a bizarre list of countries to be listed among on this (now-former) ban.

This was an act of rank ignorance 20 years ago. We have millions of people around the world successfully managing HIV and we know you can't get it from casual contact. We also have laws in place for those who act irresponsibly. There was really no reason for this rule in the 21st century; another embarrassment ended.

Weird it was ever a rule I mean. not weird to over turn it.

That Is weird. It isnt like we dont have hiv/aids here. Well it may have come from a different country in the first place it is here now. Are you going to deport all those here that have it? You cannot even get a handle on all those here that shouldnt be here.