"Okay, I guess I really opened a can of worms."

yes YOU did.

My thoughts why it could be drug related because of all the DRUG CRIMES. So sorry.

It seems you came here wanting "yes it is okay" for him/you to stay and are upset now you didnt get that answer. Yes he has been through a lot but it this is the case then you have to give all the others to be deported a chance to tell "their poor me story". Where do you draw the line on the story then? Sorry he is illegal and has to go back cause he was found out. He had ONLY TEN years to do his paperwork. Sorry but that seems like PLENTY of time to get things in LEGAL order and there wouldnt have been any problems now! CORRECT???

Okay, I guess I really opened a can of worms. You guys can bash me and talk bad all you want about illegals, or whatever. This is my life not yours. And for Hannah..you have no frickin clue! The murder was not drug related! Shows just how ignorant people can be. I will not be commenting anyomre on this issue.

"No sympathy from me sorry."

I dont mean this about the murders. What a terrible thing to happen to you.

I wonder if this needed surgery has anything to do with repairing damage from drug use?

I saw his record- with THREE drunk driving in FOUR years (one with cocaine)you should be deported and that would be a good deterrent to the people that ARE here legally. to mexico you go if you cannot obey the laws of this land!!One for possession of cocaine separately. Could this be why the family was murdered drug reasons? One of these drunk drivings he failed to yield at a stop sign- NOPE THAT WOULDNT HURT anybody now would it. I guess cause luckily nobody was there. WHAT IF there was? huh.


I am sure you only were drunk driving those 3 times when you got caught right??!!!

Sorry to bring this all up but actually YOU DID remember?

Also if you dont have youre dl cause you were caught drunk driving next time you shouldnt go drive drunk AGAIN when you dont have a dl.

No sympathy from me sorry.

gonefishin
Oct 31, 2009 at 12:19 a.m.
Suggest removal oh and prncess, it wasnt "one down fall" these charges occured spanning from 2004 to 2008. hardly "one down fall".

some crimianls do think these charges are no big deal. Personally I think they are!! As do most of you. If you ONLY have a half page compared to some guys who have 3 pages "youre not so bad" yea right whatever huh!!!??

Send them to Irac instead. Then they can become a citizan!!

".....them are from Mexico and not all of them are illegal......."

just most nice.

Be very careful. When one illegal gets MAD at another she'll call their work and bust them!! back home you go cause you made the other "mad"

TRUE STORY!!

another question who will pay for this surgery?

I especially love when youre her illegally and do crimes- real nice. SHOULDNT you behaive while youre here if you want to try to stay here illegally????!!!!!! Oh thats right you were married at the time so that must make it okay.

prncess992000...
you were tellingthe dtory well till you said I.
So anyway- no you need to go back sorry about your troubles here BUT you didnt do it legally sorry. Unless the getting married part counts. But since you are not married anymore either hurry on that or you have to go home.

Sarah, we have been through this one before. I think you know what most of us mean. Yes, you are right technically. English is not the "official" language of the United States. It is only "required" that you know it, speak it, write it before you can be a LEGAL citizen. We also know you can have a working visa to live here on a temp basis, but how many do you think that covers on the subjects we are discussing here? If you are here illegally, you are already a criminal. Don't justify it with your lame angles.....

How many can we fit in a C130 transport plane headed for Iraq?

Regardless of the plight of one criminal, if a person lacks legal status, whether by Naturalization, valid visa, or Citizenship, they should be deported-after they work off any costs incurred.

Think of the benefits we could realize by putting anyone found in the country illegally to work on a system of military installations, much like those that guarded our borders in the early years of the Republic. Make them work for a year, and use the bases to house a permanent military force to close our border.

Both the prospect of working for a year without pay, and the presence of a military force aggresively patrolling the border area would cut down on the number of invaders coming here radically.

Time to take back the country.

Oh, and before someone thinks to remind me that "we're all immigrants", yes, that's true, but my grandparents came to Ellis Island with a sponsor waiting, money saved, and a place to live. Within seven years they became Citizens, and were fluent in English. Couple of dumb Krauts can do it, anyone can.

IvoteIspeak: One doesn't have to be a U.S. citizen to live here legally. Thus, one can live here and not know English. However, I would suggest they do for convenience sake. I just find it surprising that most Americans think English is this nation's "official" language.

gonefishin: Most of the time I am told that I am too soft on most criminals because I believe they have a right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. I guess you don't know me either. Let's keep it that way.

You folks can blast me all you want for my opinion on the isolated case that was referred to by prncess992000. In my heart, I know my supporting the guy is right. I also think if deporting all of the people here without legal papers was the right thing to do, it would have been taken care of years ago. Both Republican and Democrat leaders have had opportunity to push the issue and haven't. I don't see it changing soon.

"ANYONE who can't produce proof of legal residency should be deported immediately"

What is Obama still doing here?

princess- perhaps if your mission is to help the plight of the undocumented workers, you could choose a better example? I tend to agree with the others on your example, he may be the nicest guy on the planet, but, he is a drug abuser and has been arrested how many times for something that COULD have resulted in the death of innocent people? I sympathize with anyone being denied medical care when it could save their life,but, I would far rather save the life of a child, than this adult that probably wore out his own body parts on drugs and alcohol.... Nonetheless, I hope he makes his peace with God, and there are tons of more sympathetic undocumented out there.

lvotelspeak- TO be an American Citizen, you only need to have been born here (And could be taken ANYWHERE afterward), or be born to an American parent, Furthermore, if I am a parent and become a citizen, I can petition for my children that are under 18 years of age (no, not necessarily citizens, but, legally entitled to live in the United States under "Resident Alien" status), or, a child can petition for its parents once the child reaches 18 years of age (again, no language requirements). You are thinking of naturalization.

Madman- IF I were to marry a gentleman from Mexico, and, we give birth to a baby here, the child holds citizenship in the USA because 1. He was born here, and, 2. I am an American citizen. However, if once the baby is released from the hospital, I move to _ JAPAN_ and we live there until he is 32, he is STILL a US citizen, though he may not speak a word of English. And, yes, the child's bio-dad could petition Mexico for Mexican nationality (which isn't the same as citizenship) of the child, also.

http://www.newcitizen.us/dual.html

oh and prncess, it wasnt "one down fall" these charges occured spanning from 2004 to 2008. hardly "one down fall".

Lets see here. Prncess992000 said "t one down fall, his drug and alcohol problem led to a few charges. No offenses that harmed anyone but himself.". HMMM.... seems Mr. Gaspar Huerta was convicted of- posession of cocaine, driving under the influence THREE TIMES, operating while revoked TWICE, ANOTHER FELONY for posession of cocaine. Yeah, this is the type of guy that deserves to be allowed to stay here in America.

Not surprised that SarahB1 would chime in with something like that. You chastise others when they committ crimes but here you stand SUPPORTING A CRIMINAL! Can you say hypocrite? If he didnt come here legally he doesnt belong here, hes a criminal. and you go on to say "bless you for trying to help him". Are you serious? Now youre "blessing" someone for trying to "help" a criminal? And a criminal in more ways than one from what she said.

Send them all back!!!

SarahB1 - I believe that in order to become a legal citizen that they do have to learn American history, the constitution, the declaration of independence and much more. It is also a requirement that they speak and understand some English. I think maybe you should contact the the Immigration Department and find out for sure.

The majority of the comments here make me more sad than I have the ability to express.

prncess992000: OMG! You are referring to Gaspar, right? I remember reading an article and watching a news video about this man. I have wondered how he was doing and I am saddened to read your update. Regardless of what most of those posting here say, please let Gaspar know that not all Americans are against finding a solution other than deportation. I know I will get blasted here for my comment, but I think this man has been through enough already. Bless you for trying to help him.

madman:
I guess I am against the whole immigration issue. I have alot of friends that are immigrants and not all of them are from Mexico and not all of them are illegal.I dont have an argument on whether your points are valid or not. Goodnight.

¡Vámonos!

ladulce...

...the United States of America does NOT recognize dual citizenship of her our citizens. She does recognize dual citizenship as long as the USA is NOT one of the countries involved.

In other words, if you hold dual citizenship with Canada and Mexico, the US will accept it as it is.

However, just as an example, Ireland will grant citizenship to a US citizen so that in the eyes of Ireland, you have dual citizenship...but the US does NOT recognize the Irish citizenship UNTIL or UNLESS you renounce your US citizenship.

As for your argument that a person can not be illegal, that is a pretty damned fine knife you're slicing with...I'll bet you could shave the hair off of a frogs belly with it.

I'm pretty sure that anyone and everyone KNOWS exactly what is meant when someone refers to an "illegal immigrant/alien".

Or a trespasser...as a misdemeanor or a felony...still means the same thing.

First off, by ICE standards, illegal entry into the USA (first offense) is a misdemeanor. It is when the person has been deported and re-enters that it becomes a felony (as is the case with the listed deportees).

Secondly, There are several ways (lvotelspeak) that one can be legally within the United States and not speak English. There are cities full of Spanish- or Chinese- only speaking citizens, there are people that grew up on the border, hold dual citizenship but grew up in other countries, are sponsored by family members or employers, etc, etc, etc.

Last, Your wording of "illegal immigrant" is, in fact, poorly worded. Because, immigrant is a noun. Illegal is an adjective. A person can not be illegal. Only an activity can be either legal or illegal. So, the word "undocumented" is more accurate. This person entered with improper (or no) documentation.

un⋅doc⋅u⋅ment⋅ed
  /ʌnˈdɒkyəˌmɛntɪd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uhn-dok-yuh-men-tid]
–adjective
1. lacking documentation or authentication.
2. lacking proper immigration or working papers.

il⋅le⋅gal

–adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.

Well, prncess992000...

...I guess said family member either should have paid more attention to who she was marrying or pushed harder to GET things fixed so that he WAS legal.

But the biggest point is that you can't really say that anything that I said in my first post was incorrect, can you?

As I said....within that ten year span, he may have been a stand up guy, worked hard for his family, yaddayaddayadda...well, except for the little charges that harmed no one but himself...but all that was STILL built on being a trespasser.

I can see that you are a lot closer to the situation than I am, BUT...am I wrong in the facts of what I said?

Not the emotions of what was said, but the FACTS of the matter.

Am I wrong? If so, enlighten me...tell me what I missed

Maybe he should have done it right when he FIRST came over here. Sucks for his losses, but I dont feel much compassion for a criminal.

Wow...well if you had a family member that married someone who is from another country, regardless of his legal status,you might not be so quick to jump on the bandwagon and wanna ship him back. I guess I did leave something out. Yes he did do something in the 10 years to get legal. In fact he was going through the process when he lost his wife.
Anyways, thanks for your opinions!

ya know what, Prevention? I think I might be willing to help foot the bill for a greyhound.

the plane ticket is at his own expense.

right on madman1961! I dont care WHAT he did for 10 years, it was all done during the commision of a crime. Then prncess992000 says "but one down fall, his drug and alcohol problem led to a few charges. No offenses that harmed anyone but himself.". ARE YOU SERIOUS? Hes here illegally(a crime), commits more crimes, and you pose a "scenario"? The only scenario should be him getting on a plane back to where he came from.

prncess992000...

Let's make sure I've got this right...

...came here, as a trespasser 10 years ago...never did a thing in that ten years to GET legal...DID, however break some more laws while here....

I haven't missed anything yet, have I?

...sorry about the family, the depression and getting sick, BUT...

Why does any of that make any difference? We are still talking about a trespasser, right?

There is NO such thing as an "illegal immigrant"...to be an immigrant, you HAVE to have a visa, therefore, you'd be legal. If you are here illegally, then you are, at best an illegal alien....altho, I prefer the term "trespasser".

So you want a chance to make it right? Don't fight the deportation, go back to your country or origin, if they will take you, and come here the way MY forefathers did....by ASKING permission to come and doing it by the rules.

Oh, and if you do come back that way...leave your old countries flag at home....we've already got one here...that my fellow brothers and sisters bled and died for.

I have a scenerio for everyone,let me know what you think: An illegal comes to Wal Co. 10 yrs ago.He gets married, works supports his family but one down fall, his drug and alcohol problem led to a few charges. No offenses that harmed anyone but himself.Fast forward 5yrs--still works and takes care of his family.One day his family is taken from him from the hands of a murderer.Now he is left with nothing but still mamages to work.After a year depression sinks in. He then gets sick and needs a major surgery to keep him alive but 2 weeks before,he gets picked up by ICE.He is currently awaiting deportation but I am fighting it! So, is it right to still send him back to Mexico or give him another chance and become legal?

I'm just glad that the word "undocumented" is being used less and less.......We need to call a spade a spade--If these people are here illegally, they should be labeled as such!

I agree that the illegals need to be eradicated. However, Mexican people are not the only illegals in this country. There are illegals here from all different nations. Although, the majority of the illegals are Mexican.

ANYONE who can't produce proof of legal residency should be deported immediately. Profiling of all Hispanic-appearing people by the Police should be encouraged until the country has repelled the invasion.

That's truly what we are seeing here, an invasion of illegal aliens, a basic shift in population and culture that should be resisted at all cost.

My husband and I had to file paperwork at the Social Security Office because of my daughter. We learned someone in California was using my husband's SS#. The person had made $12000 in a couple of months.IDK whatever happened to the person using my husband's info, but they realized my husband could not be working in two different states so far from one another at the same time.

That should be changed.

IvoteIspeak: There is no law that one needs to speak nad/or understand English to be living in the United States legally. In fact, this country does not even have an "official" language.

or sears- no this isnt racist so dont even start. Have you beent o sears on a sunday. Their are many hispanic people there. All legal sure they are.

They really need to crack down harder. Is it just me or does it seem like the stores and other places are filled with people who cant speak or understand a word of English. Now I assume that if they are here leagally then they have to speak and understand some English. If they really want to round them up just wait at Walmarts door and ask questions as they come out. That was easy!

Maybe this could open up job for those in need who ARE here legally!! People always say "well nobody will do the jobs they do" I bet they will now!

I am curious how many illegals are here and what would happen to unemployment numbers then? Some may be lower paying jobs BUT it is still a job and better than unemployment if you truly wish to work.

Makes one wonder how many are here in the U.S. trying to escape justice in Mexico. Once you make a habit of criminal behavor, it matters not where you go, you still are what you are.

Round'em up and herd them into the bus boys.

It's a start, but when will the media quit calling those who are here illegally "illegal immigrants"? If they are here legally they are an immigrant, if they are here illegally then they are an illegal alien!

"Promoting public safety is part of ICE's core mission," Montenegro wrote. "Removing these individuals from our communities and from the county reduces a significant public safety vulnerability."
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Removing 6 people from a county whose population is over 100,000 reduces a significant vulnerability??? Who's kidding who here?

It is a start, keep it going....

Good that they got arrested before obamma Reid, pelosi,frank and company give them amnesty....Adios

Well, it's a start.

Why can't the names be released? Afraid that someone on the outside may beat them? It's not us on the outside they should be afraid of, it's the guys and gals on the insided that they should probably worry most about.

Just the tip of the iceberg, but it's a start. Deport six MILLION of these people a year, and the ICE will be doing their jobs.
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We need to start with the businesses who provide these illegals with work. Anyone owning a business who knowingly hires illegals should be sentenced to life in prison. That should help nip things in the bud. If these people can't find work, perhaps they will go home where they belong.

I realize the article talks of crimes,outstanding,ongoing,convicted of,etc,etc,etc.Is'nt the first crime being here in the USA ILLEGALLY?

How do we even know that they're doing the job right if we don't know the names of the people they claim to have arrested?

Suddenly we trust our government?

TRUE STORY...Temp Agency in Richland County,Wi. literally gave "illegals" false social security numbers,filled out (English)forms,secured these workers jobs.My brother a supervisor at one company(laughed with,told by "illegal" employees exactly how scam worked)wanted a friday evening off. He let "slip" that ICE was to raid the factory ,next evening plant was shut down,due to noone showing up to run production. Totally true.
By the way,the temp agency was busted and no longer in business.
DEA,GET SERIOUS,GET TOUGHER!

Great job Fed's and State Officials for ridding our state of these illegals, now keep up the good work and start raiding all the factorys and start checking papers I'm sure you will find a whole lot more.

Yeah, a picture of a hispanic worker sure is evidence that white people got cheated. *sarcasm*
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How do you even know they were hispanic? signs on their foreheads?
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What bothers me is they won't identify these folks. Why the heck not? Who would be harmed? If one of these guys was a neighbor of mine, I'd want to know. I guess the needs of the people are trumped by tne secrecy of the feds. And our attorney general's office.