fedupindarien, see what I mean?

GOOD BUDDY???

marolyn - If nobody cares, why do you still come back on here? You seem to contradict yourself. ( Again, mission accomplished.)

fedupindarien, I certainly made no reference to any comments made by you or any one individual. I certainly appreciate your desire to go past the foolishness exhibited at those village board meetings. As I have prior ties to the village I also wish to see these blogs continue. However when a few individuals begin with name calling, create innuendos, and offer nothing except grade school playground behavior then it's time to shut things down, in my opinion. With rare exception, every story about Darien results in the site staff disabling comments for that story. That shuts off one avenue of information for the rest of us.

Badgerboy,
If you are refering to my comment let me explain myself. The definition of moron is "foolish or stupid", the definition of irresponsble is"lacking a sense of responsibility. If you have ever attended a village board meeting you will agree that this, foolish lack of responsibility, happens all the time. I am just sharing my observations like the gazette rules state. When the board,and mainly an group of four, keep approving spending money, tax payer money, on foolish things,(signs,chaimsaws,hearings),I think I have a right to state my concern. You have even stated that the village should be disolved because they can't govern themselves. Well as a resident of Darien I want to see a positive change to prove negative people like you wrong.

Gazette Staff, time to pull the plug on yet another Darien blog that had deteriorated into a he said-she said, name calling kids playground.

Count me and my wife in!

Would there happen to be 3 citizens of Darien that would be willing to fill the shoes of the 3 that irresponsible morons if we do a recall. I'm ready to sign a petition.

nancyboy the four members of the board are against all citizens. Why would they continue a baseless rant against our chief that we all want back and always act like they think they own the village? They were given an option by the committee and they declined to work it all out and save us money. They said no because they are full of themselves and need to be in control.

Now they're costing us all a ton of money. People aren't happy here.

They see these idiots are out for their ownself interest, not the voters. STOP COSTING ME MONEY. This could've been solved with no more lawyers. And they said no.

We're seeing what kind of governing they're doing. OMG, trust me on this....... they can say bye in April.
I'm not even on their radar as a citizen.

mymomma or whatever your name is-

The issues facing small communities are very important, and when they are dictated by only a few people ruling the rest, its like living in a Communist country.

If you don't care about their community, or want to solve a problem, why do you post here?

To be an uninformed ass?

Mission accomplished.

I'm thinking williepeter is married & the only time he can something is here.

Wp, are you a product of the great school system known as DDHS?

Oh my gosh, are you people seriously debating Darien politics? Who the hell cares about that slum? Its clear by WPs posts that the intelligence level in that hole hasnt improved over the years. The best thing to do would be to wipe Darien off the map and make it a big park, or a landfill. Which it pretty much already is.

mymaro
Don’t even try to explain things williepeter . He/she can’t follow the simple rules of a blog and doesn’t even understand the first amendment.
Best thing that could happen is the Gazette blocks williepeter forever.

Darien Village Board Trustee Otto Zipp statements to the Police Committee Chairman following the Village Board's 4-2 decision to not allow the Police Committee the opportunity to negotiate a settlement - "we have a very serious difference of opinion." "I suggest that you resign from the police committee."

yougot2bkidding
A K A Robert, The people of Darien need to know that you are so smart and have all the answers. You should run for the Board in the spring election. NOT. What I read in the paper is that there are 4 board members that want what is best for Darien.

Board Member Abbott abstained? Get a spine, dude. Why is your wussy self even on the board? To sit the fence? Get a backbone and make a decision.

This is not your job, it's a public trust you should hold in the highest regard to represent the best interest of the people.

This is a classic example of what's wrong with politicians these days.

Same in Washington. Disgusting and self absorbed idiots.

Thanks Ann Marie and Me2.

I'm glad Mr. Herrick answered the question about whether or not Chief DeVoy could have to forfeit any pay if the charges are upheld. I'm not surprised the answer is no. That shoots down Mr. Zipp's theory.

I also would not be surprised if there is a motion filed in Circuit Court to enforce the agreement. The dollars just keep on flying out of the Village coffers.

Here's the link.

http://gazettextra.com/news/2009/oct/21/...

Ann Marie Ames
Reporter

Copper-

No motion hearing. The story was in today's paper.

AM

By the way, I also overheard the former chief of police telling citizens that he was "disappointed in chief DeVoy" and that "we" were going to prosecute him to the fullest extent!
That's all GREAT coming from a guy with a history like his.

Copperguy: I was informed that Herrick denied the motion and wouldn't allow DeVoy a hearing. So the hearing for Friday is cancelled.
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't appealed to the Walworth County Circuit Court.

It’s amazing what you can find out by talking to the right people. Earlier this evening I had conversation with someone that has personal knowledge of the following:
1. The former police chief of Darien was cited by the WCSO for disorderly conduct and battery for battering his girlfriend in 1998 while (a.) employed as police chief (b.) married. He cleverly asked for a change of venue and the case was sent to Waukesha County. Therefore no one in Darien knew about it OR the board at the time purposely ignored it. I will be making an open records request to find out more detail and I’ll be MORE than happy to share those with you.
2. Marc Dennison was overheard having a conversation on the phone with Maltese. Dennison explained to Maltese that he had conversation with Kurt Zipp regarding a complaint that was filed against him. Dennison told Maltese that Zipp informed him that he had nothing to worry about and that the complaint against him would go nowhere.
Still we have the former chief working for the department of public works, collecting a paycheck AND health insurance. This guy should’ve NEVER retired from law enforcement. It’s the same guy that was charged with theft and dismissed from the WCSO.
Secondly we have Kurt Zipp who acts unilaterally from the board. He actively participated in the investigation against DeVoy, lined up his friend to conduct the computer investigation and went to the WCSO to obtain information from the Sheriff. He collaborated on a regular basis outside the boardroom with Attorney Danz incurring attorney costs for the village without board approval. This guy thinks he rules the village of Darien and makes threats against other board members!
In every organization (except Darien) there is a chain of command. Zipp needs to find his space on the totem pole and stay there.
Kurt if you think you are or want to be VP then put your name on the ballot. Otherwise mind your own business. By the way, why do you spend the whole meeting doodling on your paper with your head down? Are you ashamed or worried what people think? You should be!

Has anyone heard if there is a motion hearing Friday in Chief DeVoy's case? If so, when and where?

All failed attempts to correct their incompetence only makes them feel stronger and more important.

What is the BIG reluctance to reinstating DeVoy. Perhaps 4 board members have bought into Maltese's B.S. and want him to be the next chief at any cost.
We people of Darien need to stand up and voice our opinions and concers sooner than later! Not that it'll make a difference but it's worth the try.

oplease: Before I even saw your response today, I realized that I missed your point. Sorry bout that!

Prof: I agree with your general observations. In this case, though, the prosecutor (Hazelbaker) recommended the VB accept the settlement he negotiated. Four members refused to accept his advice.

oplease, thank you for pointing that out. I have said all along and to the nay sayers that claim Steve DeVoy started this mess, that Steve DeVoy was only 'reacting' to the madness we now see that was all but unknown before he attempted to catch those that were snooping through files in his office and department. Say what you want about Steve DeVoy, no one is perfect, but this kind of crookedness was going on for . . . geez, EVER. Maltese slipped in and immediately was gunning for the Chief's job before he was even hired to full-time status. He got full-time status before anyone had figured out he had a few screws loose and that he made a better used car salesman than a police officer. All Chief DeVoy's efforts to rectify the problem were stifled by all the B.S. that Maltese had already sold the board members and especially Metzner who as you know loves to show how important he thinks he was. It seems Maltese had everyone in his back pocket as soon as he hit the streets with his smooth talk and "oh so likable personality".

I look forward to the case being resolved and the 4 village board idiots wearing all that egg on their faces.

Bob--Scheduling is no problem. But I'm concerned about how they define 'other administrative duties'. Criminy--I agree that SOMEHOW, this needed to be resolved a LONG time ago. I do know, however, that (and, I'm an attorney, so I can say this) lawyers LOVE these kinds of cases. They have a cash cow--in the name of the taxpayers of a municipality--all they have to do is keep raising issues, and they can keep billing. So, there is little incentive for them to want these kinds of things resolved sooner, rather than later. I'm making no specific allegations in this case--just a general observation. Too often, the council/board members simply submit to whatever the lawyer says--after all, attorneys know everything, right? Oplease--I agree with you 100% about the probation issue.

Copperguy, Professor, oplease -
You are all correct. But the issue remains that there are 4 idiots on the board who are continuing this fiasco, for whatever reason.

At the expense of their constituents. And they don't care how much it costs. It ain't THEIR money they're throwing away on attorney fees!

If there was PORNO on the chief's computer, he'd be in JAIL.
No jail
No porn
No case

oplease: I'm impressed with your link to Kraus. That is a very instructive decision relative to the case with Chief DeVoy. Since the decision of the PFC was upheld in Kraus, I'm curious why you think it important in THIS case. You're correct that it is, but I'm curious why you think so. You can respond off-line if you like. This could be a lengthy discussion!

He doesn't need to access law enforcement information.. He is to do scheduling and other "administrative duties"
With as arrogant as he is maybe he'll quit..

And the beat goes on......

It will be interesting to watch how this is navigated. Civilian 'administrators' are not legally allowed access to certain law enforcement-related information. With the atmosphere there, who knows what THAT could lead to....Too bad that 'contracting' with a sheriff's dept. is generally worthless--at least to the citizens paying for it. That seems to be an otherwise attractive option. As always, I wish the citizens there the best of luck.