How about we wait and see what kind of outcome this bar has. Its a great idea to have some summer league outdoor sand volleyball...find me a city this size that doesnt have something like this? Volleyball is a great idea...

Who knows what kind of crowd this will attract. Who knows what the bars business plan even looks like... Judeg Judge Judge Rumor Rumor Rumor, Welcome to janesville. Im glad I got out of that city.

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i feel like the Walmart comparison can be made. i was not at this last meeting, so i cannot speak for sure, but the maximum amount of patrons for this bar will be roughly 75? compared to the hundreds of shoppers that are in and out of walmart EVERY DAY.
75 (maximum, mind you) drunken patrons could maybe be equated to 300 sober shoppers. Not to mention that Sam's Club is also there, and Pine Tree Plaza is not far either. Think about the traffic noise they have to deal with daily, and then add that to the current shopping season. If the people that live around here are afraid of the noise that COULD come from this one bar, then i'd like to see them spend a night living by Walmart.

wow,I guess you were there, but didn't pay attention. the woman that mentioned Rockford said she used to live there. she is a resident of Janesville at this time. she mentioned it because someone else said that people from Rockford would be coming here to participate in biker rallys and child abductions. she said that she came here to live from Rockford and felt that she didn't disrupt life here in Janesville. as for how many were from the neighborhood, you only needed to listen to the addresses given by those who spoke to know where they lived.

Yay Sneakers...can't wait to taste the homemade pizzas, hamburgers and the best BLT's in town served to titilate the educated palates of the Janesville crowd. Sure sounds like the gourmet cuisine which has made Janesville the mecca for fast food in the Midwest. On the job market....let's see....$8.00 to $10.00 per hour should get you a rental in an exclusive trailer park for now but wait a few years, those residents who are tired of culture in a bottle will abandon or rent their homes so they can move elsewhere to give their children better opportunities. When is the city council going to change the signs from City of Parks to City of Bars?

Gotta say that McDonald and Brunner (my heroes regarding this issue) were the only ones who had their heads on straight. Voskuil, who speaks of the shopping center near her, is comparing oranges to apples. Now, for the meeting itself; the residents who will be directly affected by the traffic and noise were in protest. Very few, if any, from the immediate perimeter of the bar were in favor. Don't know how many of those in favor were from the actual neighborhood but many were from other parts of Janesville and at least one was from Rockford. I was there to see it all and it was an eye opener to see the City Council in action and also to compare what the Gazette reported regarding the numbers of protesters. The fact that you can have people from other states come to our city to tell our City Council that they support a bar in our city boggles the mind.

joker, go home and wash your sheet!!!

I wonder if Janesville PD will give this place the same over the top attention that they gave Covina's?! If "those people" from Corvina's start to frequent this place, the neighbors will really start to show how racist Janesville is.

Okay! Thanks! Yeesh, I'm losing it.

SwissChick, Rogan Shoes has the other portion of the building. Looks like they expanded after Basics left.

Can anyone tell me what other occupants are in that building? I haven't been on that side of Milton Ave. in ages.

commonsense123 - well said; twice.

The Evil Council probably shouldn't have ok'd it because the sand pits might encourage feline feces.

I agree with you Biscuit that another bar is probably not needed and something for young adults is. However, the council does not create business just approves when zoning or licenses are needed. Having read many comments on Gazettextra I know this city is full of people with great ideas. The hard part is matching the thinkers with money. I have never owned or mangaged a bar, but with so many they must provide some decent income to those that do. And since there is no business in Janesville exclusively for the 18-21 year old crowd there must not be money in that.

This is headline news?.. this bar could not pay for this much promotion..

Not surprised about this news. Janesville is so predictable. Counting down the days until my departure.

I think the council did listen to the neighbors. No lights or volleyball after 9pm was from hearing their concerns. The council really had no legal right to stop the bar. That area is zoned correctly. If the thought of another sports bar isn't exciting to you, don't go. The city does not guantee success for any business. That is up to the owners. If people don't go, they will close. If people do go and it is a great success and found to be a good neighbor, they may later request changes like lights and later volleyball games.

Anouther Bar,where do they think people will get the money to support this one I dont know if anyone has noticed but the bar crowds are getting smaller according to my Dj friends and Band friends.Drive past any bar in town around midnight the parking lots look empty.Its sad the only thing the city council can do these days is give and take liquer licences. and again nothing for the under 21 crowd
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wow Napalm, you bash "religous" articles, you bash "sports" bars, is there anything you don't bash? Maybe little puppies and rainbows?

It's obvious there is opposition to this place opening in the residential neighborhood but those voices were not heard: Two clear points as follows:

....the number of residents speaking in favor of the bar was about equal to those who spoke against it.

There are poeple that don't want this place near where they live. I don't blame them. It's a bar. It's outdoor sports. It's too close to homes. There are other great places to open the kind of establishment. And why didn't the city council listen to those voices that don't want the place in their neighborhood? Why were there city council meetings at all? The council should have just said yes since that's what they were going to do anyway. And here's what Rashkin said:

... it sounds as if the neighborhood doesn’t want a bar there, regardless of what Sara Investment might offer.

Wake up, people. Why can't those that don't want it have their wishes respected?

And, another sports bar in Janesville. Woopie.

janesvillean, i would not call sara a locally based commercial landlord. they are based out of madison,not janesville,yes they do have few commercial propertys in janesville. it should be noted that sara,very rarely hires,contractors from janesville,to do work on their property. 99% of their contractors are from out of town. they are not helping our unemployment in rock county, as many people seem to think.

What I want to know is why we can't seem to have our council people at present at our meetings? I mean c'mon it's not like we have one everyday, aways seems like there is one or more absent when there is a vote that people are passionate about.

Sarah-the bar has food...probably will be great food. The Volleyball will be a bonus during the summer months. Just like any other place, this place will have busy times v.s. slow times.

Does anyone have the planned square footage for the indoor part of this establishment? It looks rather small on the Gazette's map. How will it do in the months when it is too cold, snowy, and/or rainy to play volleyball?

No surprise that Steeber would vote for another bar. More options, I guess you could say.

I will be putting on my sneakers and sneaking over to this joint when it is open for a cold, wet, legal glass of vice....

You're not going to find many locations that have that much setback from residential. Sara is a top-flight locally-based commercial landlord and can probably be trusted to give their reputation great concern.

Congrats Sneakers !!