Vote upholds Constitution: Lawyer

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Thursday, May 14, 2009
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— The local attorney for Spencer’s Gifts said the city council would have targeted material protected under the First Amendment if it had passed an ordinance requiring his client to shield minors from “harmful material.”

“I think the ordinance was overbroad, and I thank the members of the council for giving this important issue a thorough evaluation,” Marc McCrory, an attorney at Carney Davies & Thorpe, said in an interview Wednesday.

The council Monday voted 4-3 to reject the ordinance proposed by Russ Steeber. Steeber asked that stores be required to isolate or cover material deemed “harmful” to minors.

The First Amendment protects that material, and Spencer’s has challenged similar ordinances in other places and prevailed in court, Mc Crory said.

City staff said the proposed ordinance mirrored a state statute that defined harmful material.

Council members who voted against the ordinance wondered who would define the materials as harmful. They said items sold at Spencer’s are sold all over the city. Those in favor said the city has a responsibility to protect minors.

Yuri Rashkin asked who would decide whether material is harmful.

“I lived in the Soviet Union,” he said. “I’m not interested in having government involved to this extent in issues that can, frankly, be addressed by adequate parenting.”

“I just feel that this is an issue where the government has no interest being a part of.”

Rashkin said he was aware of no problem at Spencer’s. He said it isn’t clear what other stores would be affected.

Tom McDonald said he liked the ordinance because it was proactive and kept the material from children rather being punitive after the fact.

“When governments (act) proactively, I get very nervous,” Rashkin said.

Councilman Frank Perrotto said the ordinance was excessive and appeared to be regulating the pornography industry rather than the material at Spencer’s, which doesn’t come close.

“I think (the ordinance will) open up a can of worms we are going to regret doing,” he said.

Councilman Bill Truman said he was opposed because he could see the ordinance applying even to get-well cards.

Councilman George Brunner supported the ordinance because it followed state statutes and because he believed the council has an obligation to protect minors.

Steeber said his proposal was not an attack on Spencer’s and that he isn’t a prude.

“I was concerned only for the fact that, as much as they may try in this particular store to police it, I just didn’t see this happening,” he said.

“Sometimes, the government has a duty and responsibility to ensure we look out for those who can’t look out for themselves.”

Perrotto, Rashkin, Kathy Voskuil and Truman voted against the ordinance. Voting yes were Brunner, Steeber and McDonald.

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joeflint
May 16, 2009 at 10:01 a.m.
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Nice to see common sense and good law prevail! Good job, Yuri.

ozzman99
May 16, 2009 at 12:53 a.m.
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harmful to minors would have gone beyond sex toys or whatever spencers sells, I would say that war documentaries showing dead bodies could be "harmful to children" as well just about anything else not seen on sesame street

lakennedy
May 15, 2009 at 11:19 a.m.
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Yuri Rashkin's points regarding the proactivity of government sealed my vote for as long as he needs it..
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The phrase that particularly troubled me was: "potentially harmful material." Who, exactly, gets to decide that? Has anyone walked through the library lately, it's full of "potentially harmful material"
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I agree, Steeber has completely wasted our time with a non-issue. It's particularly disturbing because our city has so many real issues to concentrate on. Instead of doing his job, he takes a walk through the mall and decides that regulating the sale of vibrators is a priority.
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If, by chance, any council members do tune into these sites...I'd like them to know that as a parent, I do not need you doing my job. I need you doing the job we elected you to do...I am both disturbed and disgusted if you feel that regulating what you deem "potentially harmful material" is a priority, and further so by the fact that you think you're qualified to determine what constitutes "potentially harmful material." To me, the most harmful material facing Janesville right now goes by the name of Brunner and Steeber.

Zoom
May 15, 2009 at 12:13 a.m.
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Thank you, once again, Mr. Steeber, for wasting the council's time.

sannio
May 14, 2009 at 6:16 p.m.
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What, exactly, is harmful to children if they view adult materials? It's important enough to me to remember who voted for and against the ordinance. I will be voting for the people who voted against. I feel like giving Mr. Rashkin two votes today for his statement <grin>.

gmaof3
May 14, 2009 at 6:04 p.m.
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We have enough local government looking over our shoulders. I don't think this new ordinance would have had the "teeth" to make a difference anyway. The comment about it affecting greeting cards seems a bit of a push, but I've bought some "suggestive" cards in the past for friends... my hubby... etc, that could have thrown up a red light.
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If parents took responsibility for where their children are, then none of this would be an issue. That said, I would hope Spencer's, at the very least, does not have sensitive materials in their front display windows. If they do, then that impacts MY RIGHT to NOT have my grandchildren exposed to materials that are not suited for children, as we are simply walking through the mall.
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I understand the uproar... this store is in a mall where many parents let their kids run to any store they choose, unsupervised... This is NOT Spencer's problem, it is solely on those parents' shoulders.

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