Torture? No, except…

By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER   Friday, May 1, 2009
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— Torture is an impermissible evil. Except under two circumstances. The first is the ticking time bomb. An innocent’s life is at stake. The bad guy you have captured possesses information that could save this life. He refuses to divulge. In such a case, the choice is easy.

Even John McCain, the most admirable and estimable torture opponent, says openly that in such circumstances, “You do what you have to do.” And then take the responsibility.

Some people, however, believe you never torture. Ever. They are akin to conscientious objectors who will never fight in any war under any circumstances, and for whom we correctly show respect by exempting from war duty. But we would never make one of them Centcom commander. Private principles are fine, but you don’t entrust such a person with the military decisions upon which hinges the safety of the nation.

It is similarly imprudent to have a person who would abjure torture in all circumstances making national security decisions upon which depends the protection of 300 million countrymen.

The second exception to the no-torture rule is the extraction of information from a high-value enemy in possession of high-value information likely to save lives. This case lacks the black-and-white clarity of the ticking time bomb scenario. We know less about the length of the fuse or the nature of the next attack. But we do know the danger is great. We know we must act but have no idea where or how—and we can’t know that until we have information. Catch-22.

Under those circumstances, you do what you have to do. And that includes waterboarding.

Did it work? The current evidence is fairly compelling.

George Tenet said that the “enhanced interrogation” program alone yielded more information than everything gotten from “the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency put together.”

Michael Hayden, CIA director after waterboarding had been discontinued, writes (with former Attorney General Michael Mukasey) that “as late as 2006 … fully half of the government’s knowledge about the structure and activities of al-Qaida came from those interrogations.”

Even Dennis Blair, Obama’s director of national intelligence, concurs that these interrogations yielded “high value information.”

So much for the lazy, mindless assertion that torture never works.

Asserts Blair’s predecessor, Mike McConnell, “We have people walking around in this country that are alive today because this process happened.” Of course, the morality of torture hinges on whether at the time the information was important enough, the danger great enough and our blindness about the enemy’s plans severe enough to justify an exception to the moral injunction against torture.

Judging by Nancy Pelosi and other members of Congress who were informed at the time, the answer seems to be yes. In December 2007, after a Washington Post report that she had knowledge of these procedures and did not object, she admitted that she’d been “briefed on interrogation techniques the administration was considering using in the future.”

Today Pelosi protests “we were not—I repeat—were not told that waterboarding or any other of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.” She imagines that this distinction between past and present, Clintonian in its parsing, is exonerating.

On the contrary. It is self-indicting. If you are told about torture that has already occurred, you might justify silence on the grounds that what’s done is done and you are simply being used in a post-facto exercise to cover the CIA’s rear end. The time to protest torture, if you really are as outraged as you now pretend to be, is when the CIA tells you what it is planning to do “in the future.”

But Pelosi did nothing. No protest. No move to cut off funding. No letter to the president or the CIA chief or anyone else saying “Don’t do it.”

On the contrary, notes Porter Goss, then chairman of the House intelligence committee: The members briefed on these techniques did not just refrain from objecting, “on a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaida.”

More support, mind you. Which makes the current spectacle of self-righteous condemnation not just cowardly but hollow.

It is one thing to have disagreed at the time and said so. It is utterly contemptible, however, to have been silent then and to rise now “on a bright, sunny, safe day in April 2009” (the words are Blair’s) to excoriate those who kept us safe these harrowing last eight years.

Charles Krauthammer is a columnist for the Washington Post. His e-mail address is letters@charleskrauthammer.com.

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MooShoo
May 6, 2009 at 7:01 p.m.
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Arrrgh...reading Krauthammer is torture to my brain.

pharm
May 6, 2009 at 6:39 p.m.
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billnewbie, The "enhanced techniques' were used even before they were OK`ed by the memos in August 2002. We didn`t go to Iraq till March 2003. According to the CIA Iraq became the largest terrorist training ground after we invaded, another negative point to consider. As to what was learned from torture, the things coming out so far are pitiful, and some of the claims are outright lies.

pharm
May 2, 2009 at 11:40 a.m.
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O.K.!

casey
May 2, 2009 at 9:14 a.m.
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True Pharm but it did clear up a lot of other cases that wouldn't have been otherwise.

darwin1
May 2, 2009 at 7:09 a.m.
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Yes, billnewbie you know more than the General.

pharm
May 1, 2009 at 10:01 p.m.
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The first guy waterboarded 83 times, who is mentally ill, admitted to the St. Valentines Day Massacre, and everything else that happened the last 100 years. The government spent millions following his 'leads", and got nothing the FBI hadn`t already got without torture.

NotUnderHopenosis
May 1, 2009 at 8:14 p.m.
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"Why is it that all slopes are slippery except this one?"

I'm not sure what you mean by "all slopes" but the "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy. Therefore, it's good that this argument does not apply it.

billnewbie
May 1, 2009 at 8:06 p.m.
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It's interesting to note that Gen. Petraeus is not in the CIA and therefore he may not be privy to all the information gleaned from these "enhanced interrogation procedures". It's also interesting to note that the people that have been attacking our troops in Iraq were doing so, out of hate, long before any "enhanced interrogation" was employed by us. Therefore the claims that these procedures are why they hate and attack us are less than compelling.

darwin1
May 1, 2009 at 7:38 p.m.
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Except for the FACT that General Petreus considers it "self-defeating" which is directly from the Counter Insurgency Manual. What is really cowardly is to run your mouth when it is not your body fighting in Iraq, dodging IED's or sniper fire. This because the local population has turned against you? Why? Because they know we torture. Why is it that all slopes are slippery except this one?

whythink
May 1, 2009 at 12:05 p.m.
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"If it works that well why stop at waterboarding. Pull out their toenails they grow back. Electric shock their genitals, they are terrorists after all and we don't want them breeding anyway. Break their fingers then fix them nice and straight. And if you get an innocent by mistake oh well they will admit to something sooner or later."
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Spoken just like a terrorist.

casey
May 1, 2009 at 11:40 a.m.
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If it works that well why stop at waterboarding. Pull out their toenails they grow back. Electric shock their genitals, they are terrorists after all and we don't want them breeding anyway. Break their fingers then fix them nice and straight. And if you get an innocent by mistake oh well they will admit to something sooner or later.

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