Darien board doing the splits
DARIEN In case anybody was wondering, the new Darien Village Board still is prone to split votes.
Board members did manage a few unanimous votes Thursday night as they considered assignments to two committees and on the village's legal counsel.
One of the assignments took five votes to find a compromise.
The board voted unanimously to hold an organizational meeting at 6 p.m. Tuesday. That night, the board could work out more committee appointments and talk about how agendas are set up, among other things.
After Thursday's business meeting, the board went into closed session to bring new members up to speed on an ongoing investigation of Police Chief Steve DeVoy.
DeVoy was fired March 7 after being suspended with pay Dec. 1.
A hearing is pending to make the firing official, and DeVoy still is being paid.
The board did not take action on the DeVoy situation, President Evelyn Etten said. She would not comment on the closed-session discussion.
How the board voted Thursday night:
-- The trickiest appointment was to the plan commission.
The board appointed two citizens, John Schultz and Helen Burton, to the commission on a 3-4 vote. Bob Wenzel, Kurt Zipp and Cheryl Kaufenberg voted against the appointments, and the biggest discussion was about how many appointments to make.
It was harder to appoint a trustee to the commission, because village ordinances require a two-thirds majority.
First, the board failed 4-3 to appoint board member Craig McCue, whom Etten nominated. Then the board failed to appoint Wenzel and new board member Debi Olmstead.
Finally, Zipp suggested a committee of the whole serve until things could be worked out. The board liked the idea but didn't want to pay seven people to do a one-person job.
The solution came from Jim Abbott, who suggested the village only pay for one person to attend the May 6 plan commission meeting. The board agreed to donate the $30 payment to the Darien Food Pantry.
-- Etten nominated the law office of Wassel, Harvey and Schuk as the village's general legal counsel. She did so to curb rising legal fees in the village, she said.
From January 2008 to March 2009, the village spent $134,900 in legal fees, Etten said.
"I don't see where we can keep these legal fees up," she said.
A vote to hire the Delavan firm failed 4-3. A second motion to keep David Danz as the general legal counsel passed 4-3.
-- On a 4-3 split, the board voted Etten, Abbott and McCue to the personnel committee.

May 7, 2009 at 6:13 p.m.
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I sure hope this person is not a board member -or we are really in trouble.
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the way people have been acting on these forums about this town i would hope most of the posters are not on the board
May 7, 2009 at 4:03 p.m.
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I'm sorry cornchild. :) I was not referring to you. I realize that I was being vague. I don't ever recall you using the phrase "witch hunt". I think the person in question knows who they are.
May 7, 2009 at 3:16 p.m.
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WakeUp -
Sorry, I read your entry of 11:33am and tried to make sense of it, but I can't. Are you saying I am using multiple user names? Are you saying I am a liar? Are you saying I should stop the made up witch hunts, whatever that means? What facts are in comments left on other pages?
I have one username - I don't know who the other users are except the few who have identified themselves, like bigmama101.
Or am I just making an incorrect assumption that your comment was addressed to me because it came two minutes after my last comment?
May 7, 2009 at 11:33 a.m.
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How many email addresses can 1 person have? There are multiple bloggers who sound identical to one another. Take your own advice and wake up and stop the make believe witch hunt! The facts are in the all the comments left on other pages becides Darien politics. hmmmmm Liar. I sure hope this person is not a board member -or we are really in trouble.
May 7, 2009 at 11:31 a.m.
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The counter at the village hall now has a sign that says employees only, so they are restricting access to the other side of the counter.
And I guess you people have never dealt with the public in a situation like the village hall. If you refuse to talk to someone, you are accused of being rude, if you talk too much you are wasting time. And who decides what is the right amount of time to spend with someone - not the village employee, but the person on the other side of the counter who will complain loudly if they are not satisfied.
And biggreendad - how do we tell which ones are the busy bodies, which ones are out to get something, and which ones are actually concerned citizens? Have you been to board meeting lately? What are YOU up to?
May 7, 2009 at 11:23 a.m.
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oplease - I'm sure you realize what a derogatory term you used to address me - that's why I hit the suggest removal button.
May 7, 2009 at 11:19 a.m.
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biggreendad – I forgot to mention in my last post, you must be a very jealous person “green” denotes that. Your comments you blogged at 10:11 a.m. are distastfull. Shame on you!
May 7, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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biggreendad – since when do you have to fill out an open records request when you want to check maps, statutes, codes, or even reading though material like minutes so you know what you want copies of. Furthermore, I understand that there are massive amounts of public records at the office for anyone that wants copies and since they are readily available why would you need an open records request? You would just look through what you want and pay for copies of the same. Why would you take Regina’s (bigmama101) lead and make unfound accusations? You both sound paranoid and its all about nothing. By the way, it is much better to get the facts first; Connie did work yesterday. Check it out!
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Connie did not say Dean “can do anything in that office I can do”. I do believe she recommended that he be made Treasurer upon her retirement and that the village hire an administrator/clerk. You can find relevant information in 2008 April and May minutes. 4/21/08 minutes CMC moved to promote Dean and passed. 5/8/08 minutes dealt with pay raise, six members voted yes, 1 not there. You really do need to check the facts.
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I think you meant “good riddance” and maybe, just maybe, she feels the same way about you and a few other people who have called her names, say she has, and is doing dishonest things & even made a threat to kill her. What does she have to gain in all of this mess that DeVoy created for himself?
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To criticize Mark and say “he is just like Maltese, can’t do anything on there own”. In both cases they are working under extraordinary conditions and pressure which neither has created. DeVoy is totally responsible for what has happened.
May 7, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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May 7, 2009 at 8:43 a.m.
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And yes Cornchild, 2 years ago when I moved here I also went behind the counter, with Connie Machi and looked at maps. She never left me alone. Connie doesn't even live in this village and if she is there helping the Old VP dig up more crap , then she needs to use her allotted time to do so. Someone needs to check to see how many hours she has left, and then good riddens.
May 7, 2009 at 8:39 a.m.
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Seems really funning that any other citizen would have to fill out a open files request and wait to see the materials(and pay for it). Yet we have a x-VP and a retired village cleck going through files. Isn't her hours granted used up yet? Dennison is just like Maltese, can't do anything on there own. Except screw everything up. Good thing they gave Dean that big raise, as Connie said many times "he can do anything in that office I can do" but yet we need to pay her after retirement. Another person like Danz who has riden the gravy train for way to long!!!
May 7, 2009 at 1:03 a.m.
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Did anyone see any illegal acts at the Village Hall? I've been "on the opposite side of the counter" myself, to look at maps and the statutes.
May 7, 2009 at 12:58 a.m.
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oplease - I find it interesting that you think a citizen of Darien has no power - isn't that what this last election was supposed to be about?? I'm sure glad you're not on the board.
May 6, 2009 at 10:16 p.m.
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oplease- Can you explain what you mean by they are going to get the Administrator fired?
May 6, 2009 at 4:49 p.m.
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The ex-VP apparently thinks he still has control of the village hall. He spends most of his day there on the "opposite side" of the counter. He is a CITIZEN with no power anymore - he lost the election and Connie retired. Wake up Dennison, they're going to get you fired!
May 5, 2009 at 10:23 p.m.
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bigmama101 – no MRS KK didn’t tell me to say that. I simple want to know if you were referring to me at 10:10. That is all I asked of you. You haven’t answered my question yet which means you still have to think about it. Enjoy!
May 5, 2009 at 7:21 p.m.
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I don't think a person can speak for any one else.
May 5, 2009 at 7:15 p.m.
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I don't think a person can speak for anyone else.
May 5, 2009 at 6:02 p.m.
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onthefence: In response to your comments: "So 32.2% of the village voted, one can assume that 67.80% were satisfied with the way the village is being run or that they don’t care about taxes or DeVoy.
These percentages tell me that the majority of citizens think that things in Darien are A. O. K. Our Board had better wake up and start acting responsibly, 67.80% in the village expect it.
I would say that the silent majority needs consideration."
How can you say the silent majority need consideration? Do you actually know what the silent majority wants? Do you think that they think things are o.k. as they are meaning the chief should stay in place? Maybe they think it is o.k. that the chief has been let go.
It's just something to think about. You can't really speak for people who didn't vote.
May 5, 2009 at 4:59 p.m.
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1moreview
I agree with you about the 67%
May 5, 2009 at 2:09 p.m.
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bigmama101 – when you blogged at 10:10 a.m. today you mentioned “he”. Is that reference to me or someone else?
May 5, 2009 at 2:03 p.m.
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crafty – I strongly disagree with you that 67% of our citizens don’t care at all. They pay taxes don’t they? I think “onthefence” has a very valid point. Why don’t you reconsider your thoughts on the subject? Better yet, contact some people in the 67% and tell them your feelings.
May 5, 2009 at 1:56 p.m.
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yiotta – I will run for a trustee position for the election in 2010. Thank you for the suggestion. Moreover, just to set the record straight when I am elected, which I will be, I certainly will not treat my fellow board members like CMC has done.
May 5, 2009 at 12:02 p.m.
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gameboy- what did I say to make you think I was challenging you? I am just leaving a comment. Is it ok with you? Do I have your permission? If not I will be glad to leave and not comment. I have other things I could be doing. I was just trying to participate. So sorry. o(
May 5, 2009 at 9:07 a.m.
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The 67% of what is called the "silent majority" don't care at all. To say they were satisfied with the way it was is asinine.
May 5, 2009 at 1:05 a.m.
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citizenofdarien I invite you to click on my posting to have it removed. Right now, Good luck with that, cuz it ain't going to happen.
It's the judgment of the Gazette that gets someone removed.
May 5, 2009 at 12:23 a.m.
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gameboy-
If that were true- half of the bloggers would be removed.
May 5, 2009 at 12:09 a.m.
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sharonteacher a blogger can't have someone removed, (altho they can have input) the Gazette makes that decision.
And yes, they have them TOTALLY removed.
Did they use bad language or otherwise not follow the rules?
May 4, 2009 at 11:56 p.m.
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Should I ask it more slowly 1moreview?
Why.......didn't......you......run..... for.....the......board, Mr know-it-all?
NOW can you answer? Probably not, you do not have the brain power. All insults, no substance. Just capital letters and untrue allegations against everyone.
You are attacking a TEACHER, what sort of idiotic thinking says that's a 'pile on' pastime?
(I'm guessing, are you a short guy?)
May 4, 2009 at 10:32 p.m.
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If that is so true oplease- why did a certain blogger have WakeUp removed? Not just "comment has been removed by the staff" WakeUp is totally removed. Who ever did that must not have figured out what their personal truth is. Mask is still on.
May 4, 2009 at 10:02 p.m.
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oplease – so, oplease, share what people have posted this "intelligent information" and what specific information you consider intelligent. I really liked “Our personal truth is what we really say to ourselves when our social mask is off. Once you decide what your personal truth is, then you'll be less vulnerable to what others say. The stronger you feel about yourself and the more confidence you have, the more susceptibility to what others say will decline." It is truly profound.
May 4, 2009 at 9:50 p.m.
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joefarmer- right on! thumbs up! Let's all work together.
May 4, 2009 at 9:42 p.m.
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I just think we all need to come together as a village and do what is best
maybe that means listening to what the new people have to say
I am not saying that the teach is right, or the new vp is right, but something has got to bet better than the way things have been
May 4, 2009 at 9:01 p.m.
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yiotta – “the new board members and yes even the teacher” cannot effect the cost of living. The Board only can affect the local, I repeat, local property tax rate. They will have to act responsible to keep the sewer utility solvent or they will lose local control and they will find outsiders making the decisions.
May 4, 2009 at 8:52 p.m.
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It's obvious that 1moreview can't come up with anything intelligent on his own. He's only good a ripping on people that post intelligent information.
Our personal truth is what we really say to ourselves when our social mask is off. Once you decide what your personal truth is, then you'll be less vulnerable to what others say. The stronger you feel about yourself and the more confidence you have, the more susceptibility to what others say will decline.
May 4, 2009 at 8:49 p.m.
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joefarmer – I guess I did slam her. She has been slamming other people for some time. I just thought it was time to give her some of her own medicine. I only stated what is true. Sorry for offending you.
May 4, 2009 at 7:54 p.m.
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No 1 more..I thought you slamming teach for her teaching was way out of line
May 4, 2009 at 7:18 p.m.
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Geez 1more, you know everything don't you? Why didn't you run to be on the board? Oh I know why - you wouldn't last a day because you are so insulting, malicious and holier-than-thou you'd get thrown out on your axx.
The new board members and yes even the teacher are trying to improve life in the village and lower cost of living here for the residents.
What good service are you providing by ripping on everyone?
May 4, 2009 at 7:16 p.m.
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citizenofdarien- Thank you for sharing. Let's focus on putting this Village back together instead of ripping it apart. Work together people!!!!
BTW- what happened to WakeUp. Those were some good comments!!!
May 4, 2009 at 7:06 p.m.
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I thought I would share this quote of the day-
Few will have the greatness to bend history itself, but each one of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.
- Robert F. Kennedy
May 4, 2009 at 6:55 p.m.
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Information is valuable and here is some information you might appreciate. I went to the State of Wisconsin web site today. The Village of Darien statistics were a revelation. Maybe it will be a revelation to not only other Darien citizens but also information for our current Board of Trustees.
Voters in Darien 1059 100%
Etten votes 227 21.44%
Metzner votes 114 10.77%
So 32.2% of the village voted, one can assume that 67.80% were satisfied with the way the village is being run or that they don’t care about taxes or DeVoy.
These percentages tell me that the majority of citizens think that things in Darien are A. O. K. Our Board had better wake up and start acting responsibly, 67.80% in the village expect it.
I keep hearing the term “the voters have spoken”. 32.2% of the voters voted because they were voting for or against what was being campaigned for, i.e. cut taxes, cut expenses, reinstate the chief, etc. Consider the 67.80% of eligible voters that didn’t think a change was necessary. The percentage of non-voters is over three times greater than the voters wanting a change. I would say that the silent majority needs consideration.
May 4, 2009 at 5:58 p.m.
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joefarmer – Geez, you think I am picking on the teach? I am just asking a very valid question, “what statutes”. I thought that was a very grownup question. I will not believe her without her proof. You think that is unreasonable? Instead of me “growing up” maybe you should get outside in this good weather and wait for “teach’s” answer.
May 4, 2009 at 5:50 p.m.
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Geez 1 more..
why pick on the teach? She has had some very valid points. Grow up
May 4, 2009 at 5:44 p.m.
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WiSpedTeacher – I know you have a degree. That is not in question. However, for a person that has a "DEGREE" you seem to think everyone should believe what you say. I do not! By the way I did not criticize Evelyn. When you make the statement that “HE” is violating statues, you had better be able to put your mouth where your foot is now located.
May 4, 2009 at 5:37 p.m.
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oplease – I also see the "recommendation of Wassel’s office" as simple. Simple because Craig McCue doesn’t understand that he is only one out of seven. There was NO VOTE is 2008 that the board took to check on what other law firms would charge to represent us. Craig McCue was the one that invited them to attend the meeting. And, there was a $10 difference in one category and they were a lot more in another category. Danz was embarrassed for the three attorneys. And, why wouldn’t he be, Craig had taken it upon himself to ask them to the meeting to bid for the work. Danz has plenty of knowledge, after all we voted him into the office of district attorney and served us for 12 years.
It seems more then questionable that since Craig got on the board a portion of our citizens have questioned our legal bills. Oh I forgot, the McCue’s were upset with the charge-backs placed on there property at 115 N. Walworth St.
May 4, 2009 at 5:21 p.m.
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1more..
Well I have degree's too..but when I speak of them you just criticize me..and Evelyn too!
I won't cite the statute, but at every meeting he is violating it!
May 4, 2009 at 4:30 p.m.
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I am right here!!!
May 4, 2009 at 4:27 p.m.
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The recommendation of Wassel's office was simple. He and his staff appeared before the board previously and indicated what services they could provide, at what costs. Funny that Danz directed a question pertaining to liquor licenses to the person whom could have taken his job from him. Why are we paying an attorney who doesn't have the knowledge to direct the board. Maybe he should put his timesheets away during the meeting and focus on the details.....
May 4, 2009 at 3:58 p.m.
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one943 – I have no idea how much Wassel wanted. The VP didn’t say when she made the motion. Ask Craig McCue. I know he will know because he is Craig’s attorney. I believe that the real fact for changing counsel is because Danz has represented the village with this DeVoy debacle. They probably figure with Wassel as counsel they can get DeVoy reinstated. Craig definitely had a conflict when that vote was taken.
May 4, 2009 at 3:50 p.m.
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Hey-what happened to WakeUp!
May 4, 2009 at 3:42 p.m.
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How much did Wassel want?
May 4, 2009 at 3:18 p.m.
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copperguy – Thank you for the clarity. I knew after I had posted that I should have not used the I.R.S. but rather the state. Thanks for the heads up on libel. I believe they are not any less libel then many other comments made on these stories.
May 4, 2009 at 2:42 p.m.
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1moreview: For clarity, the cases you mentioned are not from the IRS or any other federal agency. They are business tax claims by the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development. Not making excuses or defenses, just a clarification.
If your other claims are gleaned from public records, then they are fair game. Otherwise, I suspect that your posts will be deleted by staff. If they are not made from public record, then they seem to fit the statutory definition of defamation (libel).
And thanks for the information about Mr. Danz's rates. I was curious about that and suspected that the numbers previously thrown about were hype.
May 4, 2009 at 2:16 p.m.
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May 3, 2009 at 4:17 p.m.
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WiSpedTeacher
The VP can run the meetings anyway they want that's Robert's Rules of Order. As long as they don't break the open meeting law.
By the way just because you on the Planning Committee doesn't allow you to speak at a Board Meeting. You still must by asked by the VP
May 3, 2009 at 12:41 p.m.
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Corn,
you are wrong..I was appointed and voted in when I spoke.
May 3, 2009 at 12:25 p.m.
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Wisped - If you continue to be antagonistic, you will only get antagonism. And you hadn't been appointed yet when you spoke.
I think one943 hit it - we need a visible standard for public participation that is consistent.
And Marc did understand that the terms for the planning committee members were confused - I think you were so anxious to prove him wrong that you weren't listening to him. Some of the current members were appointed midterm, which means their term runs out when the person they replaced would have had their term run out. I believe Allen Kenyon was appointed, so he hadn't served two years on the board, yet he had to run for election anyway. Again, too much time was spent disussing the problem without actually working on the solution. When the board finally got around to appointing members, they never did discuss filling the position left open by the village engineer. Does it need to be filled? Are we violating statutes by not filling the position?
And given the extraordinary legal circumstances we've encountered lately, how much would we have paid the firm Evelyn selected? I think the figures would still be very high - lawyers charge by the hour.
May 3, 2009 at 12:21 p.m.
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One943
You are correct..the problem is there is no standard..
The past VP did whatever he wanted..
The ordinances are very vague..
May 3, 2009 at 12:07 p.m.
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cornchild
I believe you are mistaken this time. The Chair can allow someone to speak at any time. Sometimes they will ask for a motion to make sure everyone wants to hear. As far as public participation this is up to the Chair. However they should set a standard and stick to it.
May 3, 2009 at 11:11 a.m.
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So you only have a problem with Ms. Etten making a decision to appoint legal counsel? She did her homework, it is the VP's job to make appointments!
So now we are stuck with a law firm that is getting over $100K a year!
May 3, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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Corn..
Thank you for your acknowledgment, however, I will not "work on your public demeanor concerning our village administrator"...he needs to do his job and up til now he has not shown me he is worthy of the top $$ we are paying him..in fact he is violating state statute, and he doesn't know it, nor does our legal counsel..
and as far as me being allowed to speak at the meeting, I did have a right to speak, as I was appointed to the planning commission and I had a legitimate question re: the appointments.. the terms are all goofed up and our village admin didn't even know..
May 3, 2009 at 1:26 a.m.
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Wisped - thank you for sharing, I will acknowledge that you area political appointee with some credentials.
Now maybe you could work on your public demeanor concerning our village administrator, since at the board meeting you only wanted to harp on past inconsitencies (which all occurred before Marc was hired) and try to make it look like Marc was somwhow at fault. Marc is a major part of village management. Maybe you should try to work with him instead of constantly criticizing him. It really didn't sound like you were looking for a solution, just a way to pin the problem on someone.
May 3, 2009 at 1:15 a.m.
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Okay, let's talk about specific problems I have with Evelyn that she can easily correct if she cares to...
First, she said she wanted to save money for the village, but only talked about the qualifications of her choice for legal representation. Maybe she should talk about hourly rates of the different firms so we know a true comparison was made. Maybe she shouldn't have tried to make a unilateral appointment without the rest of the board having a chance to consult or consider her reasoning. As was suggested at the meeting, a bidding process would allow a public discussion of the choices available. She would still make the call, but the process would be transparent so us little citizens would know she wasn't just working her personal agenda.
And why did Evelyn "pull a Metzner" by allowing Helen Burton to speak and engage in a discussion about committee appointments? The rules still say that the public is allowed to address the board only during the designated public participation time, and only then if they have requested that they be put on the agenda. There are many times I would like to throw out an idea or ask a question during board discussions, but I am not allowed to. If Evelyn wants to change the system, she needs to do it formally, with a majority of the board, and then control future meetings so the new rules are enforced equally for everyone.
May 2, 2009 at 11:27 p.m.
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I asked justme2 questions at 6:28. The questions were not answered. Only more dancing and fingerpointing.
That says alot about the kind of people screaming and moaning here. Can't even explain their positions. Why not?
If you make accusations and tell others they are wrong, then say why you think so. Aren't we all reasonable people here?
Give some reasons and tell why. If you can't say, then you should shut up.
Anybody want to place bets on whether 2Levelheaded can answer his simple questions?
May 2, 2009 at 9:54 p.m.
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questioner-
"You idiots have no explanation for WHY you rant and rave!" Are you showing your true colors?
May 2, 2009 at 9:25 p.m.
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WiSpedTeacher
"I resent your comments..you know NOTHING about
Did you know that I have my bachelor's degree in business administration, plus my master's in education? Did you know I haven't always been a teacher? When I first graduated from college I worked as a budget analyst for a huge insurance company..after that I opened my own business, which successfully ran for 5 years" SOUNDS LIKE EVELYN TO ME! I DID THIS AND I DID THAT!! WHO CARES?
May 2, 2009 at 9:23 p.m.
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Hey bigmama101 – you listen to a drunk. Why? Just read the statutes, if a president resigns, the remaining board members vote one of themselves to fill the term; them a new trustee is appointed to fill the trustees unexpired term.
May 2, 2009 at 9:07 p.m.
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questioner – I don’t understand your comment regarding Etten. I have not been discourteous to Etten. I was commenting, in general, regarding how long Danz has been the village attorney. I didn’t say anything about Wassel. Bloggers have inferred Danz was in Metzner’s choice. I just said it like it is, HE IS NOT!. Danz has a long relationship with the village. We are in difficult times and I can’t see changing attorneys in mid-stream if we don’t have to.
May 2, 2009 at 7:44 p.m.
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1moreview where is YOUR "common sense" and "courtesy" towards Etten?
You idiots have no explanation for WHY you rant and rave!
What's wrong with Wassel? Seems like not such a drastic change if he's been here before and he charges less.
Don't you want the village to pay less?
May 2, 2009 at 7:40 p.m.
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I can’t believe that a professional would involve himself in local politics. A public disclosure of his letter will have to affect his professional stature in all of Walworth County. I wonder if he has given any thought of how the public will review his lack of professionalism after DeVoy’s hearing?
May 2, 2009 at 7:20 p.m.
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For all the uninformed citizens of our fine community – Danz has been our municipal attorney for many years. Metzner had nothing to do with it. In fact if you have been around for a while you know that when he started representing the village he was in the law firm Wassel, Kilkenny & Danz which then changed the name to Wassel, Danz & Lettenberger. When the firm again reorganized, Danz took the general village account and Lettenberger took the court account.
May 2, 2009 at 7:07 p.m.
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WiSpedTeacher – What is wrong with you? You purport to be well educated, a knowledgeable business woman, and yet you don’t have the intelligence or common sense to give our new clerk the courtesy he deserves. Why can’t you accept that when he is sick, he is sick and when he feels he needs to attend a special meeting he attends? You seem to you have an ax to grind with everyone. How to you PLAN to service our community with your preconceived ideas? You should think about that, PLEASE!
May 2, 2009 at 6:33 p.m.
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2Level - same question, why was Metzner, as VP allowed to name the lawyer he wanted to work with, and Etten is somehow having an agenda by wanting to save money for the village?
And another - please tell what agenda you say she is having.
Same rules, no name-calling, fingerpointing or dancing. (Can he do it folks?)
May 2, 2009 at 6:28 p.m.
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justme2 please explain your May 2 reply. You asked What do I mean? I mean what I said - Metzner appointed his lawyer - Etten would like a different one. Why is that so wrong? She told the residents she would save village money and she did her research.
Why exactly is that a problem for you? And how can you say "Nothings changed, just different faces"? It hasn't even been a month yet.
Don't dance around, don't point fingers, don't name-call - just ANSWER these questions, please.
May 2, 2009 at 5:42 p.m.
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Teacher you're letting the idiots get you worked up. When babies cry long enough they just tire themselves out and go to sleep.
May 2, 2009 at 5:35 p.m.
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justme and 2 level
WHAT are you guys afraid of?? Why are Ms. Etten, teacher, McCue's, Debi and Shane such a THREAT to you??
Grow up! Let's give the new president a chance
May 2, 2009 at 5:24 p.m.
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I am not "mighty high on it" that's why no one knows about me..but you asked..so I shared..
Evelyn and I are 2 people that did not even know each other before the primary..but I am glad to have met such a smart woman..
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What do you mean did I pay for it? I have put myself through school..and as a single mom I work hard for everything I have...
May 2, 2009 at 5:18 p.m.
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How can you say the voters were mislead?
Ms. Etten has been in office for less than a month!
Give her a chance!
She can't do worse than Metzner!
May 2, 2009 at 5:14 p.m.
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Voters have been mislead? Us vs. them mentality? Got elected so he can turn someones lights down?
What is wrong with you crazy people? For people to be this upset about a village election is very strange.
Why are you all so afraid of a woman president?
May 2, 2009 at 5:01 p.m.
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"The voters have spoken" They were all mislead!Now what- same stuff just different faces?
May 2, 2009 at 4:38 p.m.
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WiSpedTeacher-wow are you and evelyn the same person? You sound like it! Mighty high on yourself, "I did this and I did that"! But in the long run, DID YOU PAY FOR IT? UH, NO! Sounds like a personel agenda too me? Time will tell!
May 2, 2009 at 4:28 p.m.
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Cornchild..
I resent your comments..you know NOTHING about me..
Did you know that I have my bachelor's degree in business administration, plus my master's in education? Did you know I haven't always been a teacher? When I first graduated from college I worked as a budget analyst for a huge insurance company..after that I opened my own business, which successfully ran for 5 years..I was involved start to finish..I went through all of the zoning and planning! Did you know that my folks have also been involved in their own township and been on the zoning and planning commissions?
NO YOU DID NOT..you are too busy JUDGING me...
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FYI
I called Steve Walter and have a meeting set up to get brought up to speed on his sludge pond so I can make an informed decision..
I also called Mr. Pelishek and want to do the same..
So don't sit there and JUDGE me..I am an intelligent, independent woman that can think for herself!
Ms. Etten saw my resume and put me on the commission..and she knows if I don't know the answer I will educate myself on the subject!
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IF Mr. Dennison was so sick he should have stayed home and let Mary take the minutes as he does EVERY board meeting!
May 2, 2009 at 4:26 p.m.
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Interesting-
http://www.mywalworthcounty.com/main.asp...
May 2, 2009 at 3:31 p.m.
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GaryPrimer is correct
"The appointment of committees is the sole responsibility and prerogative of the Village President. The Village Board is required to approve these appointments subject to exclusion for pecuniary interests or other valid objections, but not for their preference of a different candidate."
and 2levelheaded what is this agenda Evelyn has that you keep hinting at? Your the all knowing one, why dont you tell us?
The people voted for her. By a landslide. Deal with it and please stop all the whining.
May 2, 2009 at 2:04 p.m.
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Teacher: If you think she is one smart cookie, that doesn't say much. Especially since you don't have any clue as to what you are talking about. You state it's not "my way or the highway" and she has the best interests of Darien at heart. That is your OPINION!! Quit making accusations that are not true. I would hope that the village president would be smart enough to suggest committee members based on their knowledge and not to carry out her own agenda. Why should people who have no clue about something be put on that committee??
May 2, 2009 at 12:14 p.m.
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And kudos to Marc Dennison, who was obviously feeling terribly ill, yet came in to do his job at the board meeting because it was one thing that wouldn't wait until he had a chance to recover.
By the way Wisped, I am willing to give Evelyn twice the time she gave our new village administrator to prove she is capable - oops, her two minutes are up!!!
May 2, 2009 at 12:05 p.m.
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Here we go again, new board, same "us versus them" mentality.
Evelyn walked into that board meeting thinking she could tell the board what to do. The reason we have a board is to get a spectrum of viewpoints, knowledge, and experience. So maybe the reason the board couldn't come to a consensus on the trustee position on the planning committee is that they knew from experience that Craig McCue is not the right person for the job. Craig has publicly stated several times that he is against any change, so I guess he is happy to have a main street with a few struggling businesses getting little help from the village. I think he lobbied Evelyn for then position just so he can make the mini mart turn down their lights. I think he would be a poor advocate for development in Darien, which we need if we want a long term solution to our money problems. And Wisped, what are your qualifications? Do you know anything about zoning, city planning and development, construction law? Or are you a purely political appointee who gets to feel important because you helped with the campaign?
May 2, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.
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The appointment of committees is the sole responsibility and prerogative of the Village President. The Village Board is required to approve these appointments subject to exclusion for pecuniary interests or other valid objections, but not for their preference of a different candidate. I think that someone needs to check to see if the local ordinances are in conflict with state statutes.
May 2, 2009 at 10:03 a.m.
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WiSpedTeacher- I think you have blinders on, Ms. Etten has her own best interests on the agenda,
you will find out soon enough.
May 2, 2009 at 9:45 a.m.
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1 more thing..there is a new village president..the people have spoken.. the board members need to show her respect and support what is best for the village not their own agenda..
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Just like a company that hires a new administrator, or a school has a new principal..that person needs the people to support his or her plan..if they don't it won't work..when that happens it is sometimes better to clean house and start fresh with people that will be loyal and do what's best for the village...
CK, RW, KZ and JA did not vote for what was best for the village the other night..they voted with vengance..
May 2, 2009 at 9:42 a.m.
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Does anyone think it odd that our village clerk was out ill Thur, went to the meeting Thur night and then was out ill on Fri..
I smell a rat!
They should dock his "sick" pay!
May 2, 2009 at 9:36 a.m.
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It's not "My way or the highway"..
Ms. Etten has the best interests of the Darien residents at heart... to LOWER taxes..People need to wake up and look at the costs..the wonderful village atty Danz's bills have been very HIGH even before December.. IF they are all related to DeVoy were they conspiring to get rid of him before December??
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Why shouldn't she replace Danz?? She needs an attorney that she can trust is KNOWLEDGEABLE and covers all areas.. The new firm would handle the village and the municipal court (that now is empty)...She doesn't want representation that is loyal to Metzner or Dennison or Zipp or Kaufenberg!
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I think she is 1 smart cookie! It will take a lot to straighten this village out!
May 2, 2009 at 7:30 a.m.
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questioner- What happened with "the unity of the new board"? Don't you mean my way or the highway? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander? Is that your way of saying the new board is no better then the old board? Change? Nothings changed, just different faces.
2levelHeaded- I agree!
May 2, 2009 at 12:47 a.m.
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I think she is looking out for her own personal interests and not the villages.
May 1, 2009 at 9:58 p.m.
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Metzner brought in his lawyer. Why the double standard justme2? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
"Now it starts"?
Maybe now it ends.
May 1, 2009 at 5:20 p.m.
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Justme2..
Give me a break! She is bringing in a KNOWLEDGEABLE law firm that represents 12 other villages in the area..for about 1/4 the cost of Danz!
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Why shouldn't the VP be able to do her job and make appointments..especially to appoint someone she knows would look out for her and the board's best interests..
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David Danz knew ALL along that a 3 member committee would put those persons at risk of violating an open meeting law, yet he didn't say anything!
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Wake up Darien!
May 1, 2009 at 4:52 p.m.
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Now it starts, the new vp is trying to bring in her own (personel) law firm. What's on her agenda?
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