57 channels, one thing on

  Tuesday, March 24, 2009
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Rrriinnng! Rrriinnng! Rrriin…

“Yeah, Vern’s Video—this is Vern.”

“Oh, good … you’re open! I wasn’t sure what time you’re open.”

“Ten minutes ago. So what do you need?”

“It’s my TV, Vern. I’m having a real problem with my TV.”

“Yeah?”

“I think maybe it’s that box thing … you know, for digital.”

“The converter box?”

“The converter box. I can never remember what they call it. My wife and I connected the whole thing a couple of weeks ago … everybody was saying you’ll lose your signal unless you have the box.”

“Well, they moved the deadline back a couple months. But if you need it, you might as well … sooner’s better than later, right?”

“They can drive you crazy with all these rules! Anyway, that’s when I started noticing it … after I connected it.”

“Started noticing what?”

“Obama.”

“Obama?”

“You know—the president.”

“I know who Obama is. You started noticing him?”

“Every time I turned the TV on.”

“Well…”

“First he was giving speeches. Then he was doing those meetings, with all the questions from regular people.”

“Town halls?”

“Town halls. And then it was interviews on ‘60 Minutes.’ First I thought it was a rerun—didn’t he already do an interview with ‘60 Minutes’? But the same reporter, he was asking about different stuff than before, so it had to be another one.”

“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with your…”

“I’m not finished. Then the next day Obama’s somewhere talking about the budget, and then another time he’s talking about clean energy, and then it’s a press conference, and then it’s…”

“Well, he is the president.”

“Sure, but it wasn’t just the news channels either—you know, CNN and those. That’s the weird part! I went to Leno, Obama was on Leno. I watched ESPN, he was on ESPN.”

“That’s not a…”

“Do you think my tuner is stuck?”

“What?”

“My tuner. Because I never had this kind of problem before … the president everywhere.”

“I don’t…”

“He was even on Fox! They kept showing him laughing or something—you know, like he was enjoying being on Fox. That’s when I knew something was wrong.”

“Well…”

“And then this other time—this was really strange, he was talking right into the camera about Iran, I think—and on the bottom of the screen there were all these Arab words going across.”

“It…”

“Does the converter box do that?”

“It doesn’t have anything to do with your…”

“I’m not paying extra for Al-what’s-his-name, I’ll tell you that!”

“Al-Jazeera?”

“Not a dime!”

“Fine.”

“Not one dime!”

“Got it. Look, from everything you’re telling me, it’s not a problem with your set, or your converter box.”

“So what then?”

“I mean your set is picking up all the channels just fine. It’s just that he’s on all the channels.”

“Really?”

“All the channels, all the time.”

“And we get four years of this? Nothing but Obama?”

“Don’t worry … he’ll get tired of it. Or they will. Anyway, it could be worse.”

“I don’t see how.”

“It could be John Boehner.”

Rick Horowitz is a syndicated columnist. You can write to him at rickhoro@execpc.com.

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SuperDave
Apr 6, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
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No problem klick.

klick
Apr 1, 2009 at 9:51 p.m.
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Superdave sezs--I have a massive T1 connection that runs about $900/month plus usage fees and of course taxes. Actually, most of my remarks are now fully automated so I need only review them from my I_Phone. Maybe ten minutes/day of my free time. Have a blessed day my neurally challenged friend.
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Superdave that defiantly makes you better than the rest of us .i feel honored to correspond with you ,my apologies to you SIR.

whoanellie
Mar 31, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
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I read this article on thursday last week and thought about it. I thought I'd test it out. Sure enough everywhere I went Obama was on all the channels, except when a game was in play but even then all they talked about was his picks!! What other President is such a lover of the camera?? Sometimes I think he forgets he's the President and thinks himself a celebrity. I think the people all over the world think that too!! Go back to the whitehouse and do your presidential job!!!

SuperDave
Mar 30, 2009 at 2:05 p.m.
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hannah: Right on about the cell phones and rudeness in public!
klick: You said it all. Thanks for the demonstration.

SuperDave
Mar 30, 2009 at 1:58 p.m.
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chad: Funny!

klick
Mar 27, 2009 at 5:15 p.m.
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klick
Mar 27, 2009 at 1:35 p.m.
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supperdave Signing off for the weekend, everyone enjoy your freedom while you still have it.--------------

Thank God we won't have to read your drivel all weekend .

rep_of_1
Mar 27, 2009 at 11:59 a.m.
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Darwin1 you inability to comprehend the facts at hand in our economy astound me. Your fixation on liberal socialist proves your incompetent ideology on economy has not one leg to stand on. The wealth of the nation has little to do with a liberal mentality and everything to due with business. Please come to your senses with what you post. The liberals are misinformed enough.

wannabe30
Mar 27, 2009 at 10:21 a.m.
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Uh oh spelling police sorry

wannabe30
Mar 27, 2009 at 10:20 a.m.
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Andre I did no assume anything, I am saying we have to do something, and yes if we tell the people who are suppose to represent us that we are not putting up with this crap anymore then maybe they will listen. Darius thank you for not tearing me apart.

All I am saying is this is an elected position we need people who are working for us maybe we should ban together to make a change I am not sure I do not have all the answers but we need a change I think we all agree on that.

chad_vader
Mar 27, 2009 at 10:03 a.m.
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SuperDave - He is my evil 2nd uncle on my fathers side. I went hunting with him once, almost got shot but I ducked to fast for him. We think he is a cyborg now with all the artificial life support systems he had installed on himself.

SuperDave
Mar 27, 2009 at 9:49 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce: You are correct sir. Signing off for the weekend, everyone enjoy your freedom while you still have it.

RetiredAirForce
Mar 27, 2009 at 9:45 a.m.
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"the blue states subsidize the red states."
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Are you determining red vs blue by presidential elections, governor races, state election officials, or who won the local alderman race. If you are going by voting results for president I guess during 1984 the wealth of Minnesota supported the remaining 49 states. If your fuzzy math is just for this past election how does the wealth of New Mexico surpass Texas?

SuperDave
Mar 27, 2009 at 9:31 a.m.
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chad_vader: Are you somehow related to Darth Cheney? Just wondering.

CallitasIseeit
Mar 27, 2009 at 9:10 a.m.
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Obama is going to bankrupt our country. He had help from Bush who I never supported either, but his spending levels will be the financial death of us all. Of course the best way to turn us into a socialist state is to kill the economy and have the people depend on the government for there most basic of needs, so I guess he has the right plan for his agenda.

JUSTSAYNOTOMATH-I take it you live in Rock county since you both live under a rock and are about one half as smart as a rock.

SuperDave
Mar 27, 2009 at 9:08 a.m.
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darwin1: Please continue to evolve.

darwin1
Mar 27, 2009 at 8:55 a.m.
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SPEND SPEND SPEND MR Obama. Its how we got out of the Great Depression and won WWII. Its the right thing to do. If our currency needs backing we can back it with National Forests or wheat which is what Reagan did.

Clearly people have a problem actually reading the posts. The problem is with over production and overcapacity. We could only hope that some people wouldn't work sixty hours a week. Many doctors work 80 hours a week to the detriment of their patients. If all of these productive people think their productivity is being diminished I am sure they can find another country who will have them and we can replace them with immigrants.

To repeat, most of the wealth in this country is generated in the liberal socialist and tolerant areas of the country. I did not say there were no rich people in the other areas. To make it a bit more simple for those who don't understand: the blue states subsidize the red states.

SuperDave
Mar 27, 2009 at 8:19 a.m.
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klick: And another thing, just how wasted were you last night when you posted almost the same comments just minutes apart?

SuperDave
Mar 27, 2009 at 7:33 a.m.
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klick: Good morning Sunshine! You said "usaret you and SuperDave have no problem spending 12 hours a day bloging Super Dave how much do spend for internet service ,or won't you answer that SUPERDAVE ?". I have a massive T1 connection that runs about $900/month plus usage fees and of course taxes. Actually, most of my remarks are now fully automated so I need only review them from my I_Phone. Maybe ten minutes/day of my free time. Have a blessed day my neurally challenged friend.

RetiredAirForce
Mar 27, 2009 at 3:47 a.m.
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"liberal areas are where the wealth is generated"
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Yep, no wealthy or rich people live or make money in a non-liberal area.

klick
Mar 26, 2009 at 11:03 p.m.
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usaret you and SuperDave have no problem spending 12 hours a day bloging Super Dave how much do spend for internet service ,or won't you answer that SUPERDAVE ?

klick
Mar 26, 2009 at 10:56 p.m.
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h0rselvngrl

usaret :) Nice....I did not vote for him.

SuperDave: I have plenty of friends who find it impossible to live without their daily fix of cable, and I do NOT understand it? I honestly have NO time to watch t.v, and I do NOT know how people can sit in front of a tv and watch it for hours on end? I just do NOT get it.
usaret you and superdave have no problem bloging 20 hrs a day , and superdave who is your internet provider and how much does it cost a month. of course you won't answer that will you SUPER DAVE.

chad_vader
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:58 p.m.
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Better Obama than stutterin' George or Darth Cheney.
Of course, a guy that clueless would have had problems even hooking up the digital box, as seen here:
http://www.unitednothing.net/content/vid...

matthew516
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:36 p.m.
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fool on the hill....Understood!

fool_on_the_hill
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:30 p.m.
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mathiew516, I don't want to digress into a philosophical debate re: "selfishness" vis-a-vis Ayn Rand's Objectivist philosophy.

I completely agree with you that it all boils down to character and integrity at the individual level. The Golden Rule. (I was only addressing the political aspect of that.)

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:16 p.m.
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gmof3, especially the last line after todays debacle.

gmaof3
Mar 26, 2009 at 6:14 p.m.
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Well, I for one, thought this was a hilariously written commentary!

darius
Mar 26, 2009 at 6 p.m.
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ACCOUNTABILITY! Exactly! If we just choose to take that part seriously, everything else will take care of itself.

matthew516
Mar 26, 2009 at 5:53 p.m.
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fool on the hill -- that's not the root of the problem, it's the result of the problem! The root of the problem is in just what "darius" said in his/her post. Character and integrity. Everything evolves around principles. Principles are the foundation of a productive society. Without these, we have no guidelines to base our laws and ethics on. It all boils down to one's ability and willingness to do the right things for the right reason's even if it doesn't always serve their own personal purpose all the time. It's called being selfless.

darius
Mar 26, 2009 at 5:45 p.m.
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intrigued~ by unified, I'm saying it's time we start working together for the good of all as opposed to the "me-me" attitude that's been so evident in society. Is it such a bad thing to have trust instilled back into our communities as opposed to having to look over our shoulders every second because someone is trying to take advantage of us? What ever happened to "our words being our worth"?? Lawyers, contracts, selfishness, money all have taken the place of that principle! Unifying isn't about everyone thinking the same way or believing in one thing, it's about building a community around the principles that have made this country the great country is has been. What makes America great is people from all walks of life with their own cultures and beliefs and strengths coming together as one and loving and respecting those differences. You can have different beliefs and still be a prouductive society! We just need people of moral authority who hold character and integrity to a standard that are willing to hold themselves accountable to pull this off. It all boils down to pride. Those who are all about themselves will never be a productive part of society. Those who are into helping others and having their backs are a productive and necessary means to a healthy community.

fool_on_the_hill
Mar 26, 2009 at 5:16 p.m.
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SuperDave, I don't have the solution either, but I believe the root of problem lies in the decay of business ethics and society's tolerance, even glorification, of such behavior. I've been watching this situation devolve over the past 20 years or so. While I do believe in the Objectivist philosophy depicted in "Atlas Shrugged", I don't believe socialism is our primary threat today. Regardless of one's political philosophy, I believe Americans should be more outraged by oligarchy and how it has damaged and continues to threaten our freedom and democracy. Today's moochers and looters are wearing three-piece suits and calling themselves free-market capitalists, journalists and elected representatives of our interests. As long as the oligarchs have power, we'll only be spinning our wheels.

SuperDave
Mar 26, 2009 at 4:40 p.m.
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darwin1: I don't know where to start with you. I don't decide who is productive, how would I do that? And to your question, wouldn't we have inflation? Where have you been? In the last one hundred years, the dollar has been inflated so much it's worth maybe two cents now. Just ask someone in their eighties how much things used to cost. But this is nothing when you compare the inflation we're going to get in the next ten years. BTW, I tend to not take you too seriously when you tell me I'm "full of crap". That shows an inherent weakness in your arguments. Ciao for now.

fool_on_the_hill
Mar 26, 2009 at 4:35 p.m.
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That Frontline documentary on deficits and debt, "Ten Trillion and Counting", is a good overview of the recent history, present situation and future outlook.

Here is a graph of the national debt as a percentage of GDP, from 1940 to the present: http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-...

SuperDave
Mar 26, 2009 at 4:32 p.m.
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I just finished reading "The Wrecking Crew" by Thomas Frank. The title refers to the Republicans, a.k.a. the "neo-conservatives", but the eye-opening information (for me) applies to both of the big money parties. The cozy relationships between the lobbyists and our elected officials in Congress is no less than astounding. There is a building that is actually just across the street from Congress, the address is 101 Constitution, nicknamed "K St. in a box". Lobbyists occupy most of this building (they're not all on K St. anymore). There is a five-star steak house on the lobby level, where congress-persons and senators are wined and dined. This place is so close that members of Congress can walk across the street during a vote, meet with a lobbyist, and get back in time to cast their vote. Worse yet is the "revolving door" - members of Congress exchange their vote(s) for a well-paid position at one of the firms that their votes benefitted. The lobbyists give party leaders a list of positions that are being offered (by their clients) when terms are ending, and they divvy them up to "cooperative" members of Congress who are not re-elected. Keep in mind that hiring lobbyists in the new administration was one of the first promises broken. It's all the same people, moving back and forth between elected office, cushy corporate positions, presidential administrations, lobbying firms, etc. This is bribery carried out as business-as-usual.
What's the solution? I don't know...I can only tell you that I vote third party, as do many people I know that pay attention to what the politicians are doing to this country.
Stay positive, and good luck to you and your family.

darwin1
Mar 26, 2009 at 4:11 p.m.
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Oh, I see SuperDave. Its the people you have decided are productive. You are so full of crap. First off, I should say the liberal areas are where the wealth is generated. They pay more into the Federal government then they get back. The problem with Rand's book is that it ignores over production not under production which was the cause of the great depression and part of the problem now. If Rand was right wouldn't we have a problem with inflation and not deflation?

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 4:04 p.m.
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The only way to stop the corruption, is to have public financing of elections. Set a limit on how much can be spent for House, Senate, and presidential election. I know people will say that it will put a damper on free speech, how? You can give as much as you want to a fund for the Republican , Democrat, or even third party if they can show they are viable. Take the lobbyists away from the politicians, and let them vote their conscience for a change. It should also make for cheaper, shorter elections. No private donations, just a fund.

intrigued
Mar 26, 2009 at 3:52 p.m.
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Darius:
OK, just show me a country that is unified. What are you talking about, unified? Isn't the U.S. the world's shining example of individualism? Isn't "unified" a form of the socialist agenda that so many are afraid of? What you say is just words. Only action will get us out of this mess. I don't buy the lies, I don't even know most of them. The main way I avoid them is by not having television. But even though I did not participate in nor get anything out of the real estate/stock market boom I'm now supposed to help fix it. How, what should I do? Write to members of congress? How does my measly letter compare to the checks from the lobbyists? Most of the people currently in our federal legislature are the same ones that were there when this crisis was developing over the past few years and they were either asleep at the wheel or thinking "hey, I'll get mine too!" Why should I think THEY have the ethics and intelligence to right this sinking ship?

jja
Mar 26, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
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darius no matter how you explain it, superdave and horselover are not able to understand, you might as well beat your head against a cement block .

darius
Mar 26, 2009 at 3:15 p.m.
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marinab..I hear ya! Only thing, it's not that simple! Writing to the local officials these days is like walking into a dog pound with T-Bone underpants! We have to fix the things from the source which is getting the right people in these positions... we need LEADERS. We don't have people of character, integrity and a sense of honor heading up these positions and we're seeing the fallout from it now. I believe there are a few with those qualities who do try to do the right things, but, like I said before, one dog against a pack of wild dogs doesn't stand a chance! We need more "dogs" and less wild dogs if that makes sense. There's really some great insight coming from people regarding this article! I'm happy as heck to see that!
Who knows, maybe people are starting to come together for the good of all??!!! I'm in!

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 2:40 p.m.
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andre, sorry, your link didn`t work any better than mine from nationalreview. I would like to see what they are crediting him with, considering the only bill that passed that will go on his record is the$787 billion stimulus, and then it only counts when it`s spent. The $410billion bill, which actually was$1.2 trillion when you add in mandatory spending, is the last part of Mr. Bush`s budget.

Unidentified
Mar 26, 2009 at 2:27 p.m.
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pharm: It was the way taxes were distributed and dealt with that made Regan successful. It's not as simple as he either did or did not raise taxes. Nonetheless, that was a different era with a different set of problems. What worked then might not work today so it's pointless to compare. From my perspective, it seems like the more the government gets involved in this mess the worse it gets. Trillions of dollars are being spent with little results, which includes both the Bush and Obama presidency. Though things might level off, our kids will be the ones stuck with the inflation and deficit that comes with this so called government help. People will have to get used to lower growth rates and higher unemployment until we adjust to living without having our credit maxed out. It will likely take longer than one term before this works itself out. That holds true regardless of what Obama does or doesn't do while in office. It's a harsh reality, but it's what we are facing.

wannabe30
Mar 26, 2009 at 2:16 p.m.
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And to the point of the article it was great

wannabe30
Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 p.m.
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Again, every one of you has the answer to the problem then fix it. We have to work together or die alone, we the people need to make our voices heard no matter who is President. So stop the B*****g and do something about it. Write your Congressman, your Representatives and the President and tell them what you want. Thanks to the government we have, you are able to do just that, again fix the problem instead of just complaining. If it ended up McCain, you all would still complain.

Jansevillemom I agree with you I hope things get better for us all.

darius
Mar 26, 2009 at 1:55 p.m.
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intrigued, It's up to US to fix the mess. The citizens of this country need to be educated with the proper education and stop allowing ourselves to be force fed the lies that we're constantly being choked with. It's gotta start right in the homes of America! Show me a country that is unified and I'll show you a govt. whom no longer remains it's people's conscience!

rep_of_1
Mar 26, 2009 at 1:45 p.m.
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I could live with the government taking personal accountability for every last cent spent. I could live with a man that has the ideals and morality to make good on his promises. I could live with our government getting cleaned out and having a true system of checks and balances with out the greed, corruption and lies. Our elected representation could once again mean what the term given to them applies.
This is a good start that we all could come to agree on.

intrigued
Mar 26, 2009 at 1:32 p.m.
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OK people, who CAN fix this mess and what SHOULD be done?

Criticizing is easy, what solutions do you have that you would be willing to live with? I have no idea if what Obama is doing is correct. The depth of deception and financial mismanagement that has happened in this country boggles my mind. I don't know if I even understand some of this stuff enough to be able to criticize what is going on (with the attempted fixing that is, not with the lies and greed that created the problem).

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 12:21 p.m.
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andre, sorry about the link, had another one but the same thing happened, wouldn`t work. So I punched in, Reagan, largest tax increase in peacetime history. That works, it will bring up the TEFRA Act of 1982, written by Bob Dole.

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 11:55 a.m.
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andre, sorry, forgot FDR`s 6.4%, even with two negative years out of eight. I didn`t count the war years, but if 1941 was added in it would raise the average almost 2%, and the other war years were in the teens. All Reagan did was drive the deficit up to more than all previos presidents combined. By the way, so will Bush. Even if Obama has the $9.3 trillion deficits they are talking about, which would be a disaster, he wouldn`t double the debt in eight years like Mr. Reagan, and Mr. Bush.

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 11:45 a.m.
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andre, yeah 3.4% growth rate in GDP is pretty good, but only .1% higher than Carter. Clinton had 3.7%, and by Kennedy standards, 4.3%, he was a piker. And, don`t mention Johnsons 5.2%! If you cut taxes and don`t cut spending it doesn`t work. Reagan lamented that for years, but obviously nobody learned from it!

pharm
Mar 26, 2009 at 11:15 a.m.
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andre, in regards to your pro Reagan website, you might want to go to, www.nationalreview.com/features/2001/030... You will read how Reagan raised taxes seven times from 1982-1987. Including , "the largest peacetime tax increase in American history." The article was written in 2003, well after Clintons terms. How anyone can credit a tax cut in 1981 with the Reagan "boom" is ridiculous.

SuperDave
Mar 26, 2009 at 9:08 a.m.
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darwin1: You said "Atlas Shrugged is a fictional and simplistic view". Well yes, it is a fictional work, but it brilliantly illustrates the absurdity of central planning. Nothing simplistic about it, I highly recommend it to those who are interested in learning about Objectivism. And it obviously has a basis in reality - are you paying any attention to what is happening in Washington DC? Is it possible that the productive will just stop being productive? Well it won't play out the way it does in the novel, but it's already happening. If you don't see that, just wait - this government fueled recession will get much worse, taxes will increase, and the most productive will get fed up. They will close down businesses, retire earlier, some will leave the country.

"It seems that all the productive people live in the most socialist and tolerant areas of our country". Huh? I disagree! Study the red and blue maps from the last presidential elections. The most productive people tend to live in small towns and rural areas. And no I am not confusing "productive" with "privileged". I am not referring to just wealthy people, whether old money or new. The productive include small business owners, farmers, factory workers, engineers, skilled trades. People who make real things. People who provide real services. This as opposed to those that just push paper, such as most politicians and Wall St. types.

darius
Mar 26, 2009 at 7:23 a.m.
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It isn't just Obama is absolutely correct. Our govt. with their created programs and so called "ideas" for change are nothing more than band aids over the real problems. Everytime they fix one thing, they take from something else. It's like prescription meds! One med may treat one ailment, but, it has side effects and creates another. The problems are stemming from the core of this country! Us, the people! As long as our govt. has us brainwashed and oblivious to what's really happening, they'll continue to have the run of the mill. Democrats..Republicans or whomever, it all boils down to the same crap, just a different route of getting there! What's wrong with this country isn't about our president, it's about US!

brwe
Mar 25, 2009 at 11:56 p.m.
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Why--when something as totally illogical as spending your way out of being broke is presented--do we cover our eyes, ears, & mouths & shout in unison,"All the experts agree, all the best (new synonym for "liberal"?) economic minds agree"? Has the possibility even occurred to the sheep that at least a significant percentage of the media is capable of LYING to you?

darwin1
Mar 25, 2009 at 11:46 p.m.
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Atlas Shrugged is a fictional and simplistic view. It has little basis in reality especially for our country. If Rand were right then why did Milton Friedman live a good part of his life in socialist San Francisco. It seems that all the productive people live in the most socialist and tolerant areas of our country. This is because there is more to it than money. You also seem to be confusing productive people with privileged people. In fact, under Bush and the Republicans we have a tax code that punishes work and rewards financial gimmicks.

janesvillemom
Mar 25, 2009 at 11:11 p.m.
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Bush is the one who passed the Medicare drug bill (aka big pharma gift) which we had no way to fund other than borrowing, but because pay-go expired, he was able to pass it. Was he a liberal/socialist administration? Who started borrowing from the SS trust fund? That was the Reagan administration, right? To make his voo-doo economics look like it wasn't bankrupting our country, he had to borrow money that was supposed to be saved for the retiring babyboomers. While the wealthy got tax breaks, the payroll tax was doubled under Reagan to force the boomers to save and now that money has been squandered, most of it by republican administrations. And now Obama steps in with a huge recession, a credit and banking crisis, the trust fund nearly depleted, the boomers about to retire, the auto industry failing, and two wars to fight. He didn't create ANY of this mess. What is your solution? The experts agree that if we don't have massive government intervention, this recession will be at least 10 years like the Japanese "lost decade" and could rival the Great Depression. Who has a better plan? It is highly possible that we are screwed either way (or our kids and grandkids anyway), but at least Obama is doing what the best economic minds in the country think he should do. Yes, hope is all we have left.
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I really don't trust or totally agree with either party, but the republicans have certainly screwed the middle class more than the democrats so I'm ready to give them a chance to prove themselves. I think Obama is a smart man who really wants to do the right things for this country, not just for his rich friends and contributors.

jja
Mar 25, 2009 at 10:54 p.m.
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supperdave's speech is always the same. Nothing new, just repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat........and if you really listen real close, I'll bet you'll hear it repeated again

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 9:09 p.m.
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Read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". The productive become fed up with the socialist nanny state. Re: the title, I realize everyone won't immediately understand - Atlas is the mythological figure who held the world on his shoulders. He represents the productive. What would happen if he "shrugged"? This is where we find ourselves in 2009.

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 8:36 p.m.
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andre: I can guess what you're saying, but you need to spell it out. I am not disagreeing! But what exactly are you saying?
The Obama spending is so out of control that it's hard to express. The best thing for individuals to do is STOP PRODUCING.

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 8:24 p.m.
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darius: I'm glad you're not one of the mind-numbed robots. No offense to anyone who voted for Obama - y'all were fed a load of crap.

darius
Mar 25, 2009 at 8:18 p.m.
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superdave..We have hope because the economic times that are ahead are going to force people to drop their pride and start caring about each other again because when it's all broken down, that's what's most important! Family and friends. People have been lulled to sleep by our corporate driven media to believe that govt. is our "friend". We've been fed a pack of lies and the masses have bought into it which is why we're in the predicament we're in. Hope is not a lie if the people of this country start unifying again and do it for the right reasons. It's not up to our govt., or anyone else except people like you and me to start taking personal responsibility for our actions and start changing! It sounds like you've got some great thinking going and I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. There's many good postings in here from people who seem to have a clue, yet, there are so many others who have become so disconnected from truth it's a travesty. It's time to come together, right here right now...or we'll be no more! That's the way it has to be or else!

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 7:51 p.m.
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janesvillemom: I did not see the Frontline segment, wish I could have. "He sees this spending as an investment". No, an investment can only be made by the owners of the capital. Spending by government is an appropriation.

"Where were you when Bush was passing the hugest spending bills in history"? Right here, opposing it.

"Hopefully we'll get more for our money this time around". No kidding! "Hope" is all we have left! I admire your optimism.

"The biggest part of the growing debt/deficit is from Social security, medicaid and medicare. Can't blame Obama for those. These problems have been know for years and every president/congress has just pushed it aside. Now is the time of reckoning because the babyboomers are starting to hit retirement age and Obama doesn't have the choice to ignore it".

All are programs created by liberal/socialist administrations. Obama is just the most recent of that ilk. And the programs he is advancing will exacerbate these problems. I really wish you understood this, I assume you love your children amd grandchildren.

Stay positive! This president has less than four years remaining.

darius
Mar 25, 2009 at 7:36 p.m.
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superdave...AMEN!

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 7:26 p.m.
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Mikki - Were I not already in love with a woman I would use the word love to reply to your post! I'm sure you get it - people need to come back to reality. Parents need to get in touch with their kids - in real time, in person.
My latest experience with the technologically/socially clueless. I was shopping at the grocery store, looking for a particular pasta. I was well aware that there were other people in the store of course, perhaps walking behind me as I scanned the shelves. Some dude walked up behind me, and, inches from my head, said something like "YEAH I KNOW" (into his cellphone) or whatever, the words don't matter. I immediately whirled around, surprised, and said "Excuse me?". The idiot did not even react to my question, he was so self-absorbed in his phone that he was unaware of the other human beings in his immediate vicinity.
Thanks for being a good parent! Kudos!

janesvillemom
Mar 25, 2009 at 5:23 p.m.
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Did any of you watch Frontline on PBS last night? (I don't have cable stations) It explained how the debt got so out of hand over the past 8 years. Obama walked into some deep crap by following Bush and I hope he's doing the right thing, but who knows. He sees this spending as an investment in the future of the US by getting a strong foundation in place. He has a very difficult job and I'm glad I'm not in his shoes!
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Where were you when Bush was passing the hugest spending bills in history for things that did not help the country but led to this economic recession? With Cheney casting the tie-breaking votes. Hopefully we'll get more for our money this time around. The biggest part of the growing debt/deficit is from Social security, medicaid and medicare. Can't blame Obama for those. These problems have been know for years and every president/congress has just pushed it aside. Now is the time of reckoning because the babyboomers are starting to hit retirement age and Obama doesn't have the choice to ignore it. Like I said earlier, I'm glad I'm not in his shoes!

Mikki
Mar 25, 2009 at 4:37 p.m.
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SuperDave...I don't get that texting, either. My husband, daughter and I were out to eat last weekend and a woman and her husband were at the next table. The poor guy...she was texting throughout the meal, reading out the texts to him. He was obviously bored. My daughter brought out her phone and I told her, "Put that cellphone down! We are having a meal. You are NOT that important that you cannot have a meal with your loved ones without texting!"
The woman twirled around like I was talking to her. It was hilarious. (The husband turned away because he couldn't stop laughing).

brwe
Mar 25, 2009 at 4:11 p.m.
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Well, now we've had our dose of humor for the day! He "listens to the advice of people from both sides of the aisles"? People--there's a world of difference between looking down your nose at the opposition while they're talking & LISTENING!

intrigued
Mar 25, 2009 at 4:02 p.m.
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Oh NO! Do NOT put your TV in the landfill. Get rid of it by bringing it to Best Buy, they will take it off your hands. But, having been TV-less since 1998 I would highly recommend it!

crafty
Mar 25, 2009 at 3:40 p.m.
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rep_of_1, he is making sure he is able to do what he wants, with no opposition.

Macdaddy
Mar 25, 2009 at 3:28 p.m.
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The stock market doesn't like Obama or the Teleprompter's speeches. Maybe he should give it a break until after the 1st quarter is over and people receive their statements.

darius
Mar 25, 2009 at 3:27 p.m.
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superdave and horseluv~ It's not hard to figure out if you think about it. People don't spend that money because they like spending money. They don't buy a TV because they like TV's. They buy the "media" that the TV and cable bring to their lives. It's no different than drugs. The media is designed to create a hunger for more so we continually reach into our pockets and pay these media corporations who continue to get fat off our our own ignorance! MTV, Married With Children, Two and a Half Men, Reality TV etc. has become the public's conscience. It's no wonder our culture and our economy are both in the sewer...we don't have a culture capable of thinking on their own anymore which is just what uncle sam wants to see. Ignorance has become knowledge!

rep_of_1
Mar 25, 2009 at 3:22 p.m.
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Bella: What makes no sense is spending incrediable amounts of money and trying to assure the American public that the deficit will be cut in half. I'm sorry for people that can believe this mans lies.
Can you understand this or are you still living in the excitement that a man was elected into office that made more promises than he will ever deliver.

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 3:22 p.m.
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h0rselvngrl: Yeah, I don't get it either. The scary part is that some people get virtually all of their information from TV. That's a prescription for ignorance! No, let me rephrase that. The word "ignorance" is correct, but it's more than that. People get outright BAD information, and they think they know, what they think they know to be correct.

Then they vote for vague platitudes like "hope" and "change", or worse yet, the "lesser of two evils" because they feel like they only have the choice of R&D.

I watch a little cable when I'm at the gym. I tend to watch the news channels, to see how bad the government and Wall St. has screwed up the economy today. But I look around and see that most people are watching junk. Men watching endless sports, or women watching Entertainment Tonight or the like. I don't get it, but then I don't get texting either. Cheers!

h0rselvngrl
Mar 25, 2009 at 2:45 p.m.
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usaret :) Nice....I did not vote for him.

SuperDave: I have plenty of friends who find it impossible to live without their daily fix of cable, and I do NOT understand it? I honestly have NO time to watch t.v, and I do NOT know how people can sit in front of a tv and watch it for hours on end? I just do NOT get it.

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 2:20 p.m.
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I'm not broke, and I do not have cable. My friend is broke, and he has cable. He pays over $80/month which is like $1,000/year. A THOUSAND BUCKS - and keep in mind he is broke, all the time, he is in debt tens of thousands of dollars. But you got to have ESPN, right Bubba?

darius
Mar 25, 2009 at 1:39 p.m.
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The best thing that could happen to this country is for every person to take their TV's and donate them to the local landfill! I find it amusing that so many people are having such a problem making ends meet, yet, when it comes to their cable service...they sure find a way to make that happen. I've never once yet met a broke person who didn't have cable!

bella
Mar 25, 2009 at 1:16 p.m.
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I think it's great that we finally has a president who understands the issues, thinks before he speaks, listens to the advice of people from both sides of the aisles, and is articulate enough to share the information with all of us (teleprompter or not). rep-of-1, your post makes no sense.

SuperDave
Mar 25, 2009 at 12:53 p.m.
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I for one enjoy hearing what the teleprompter has to say. I find the soothing platitudes to be, well, soothing. Like a warm, summer rain. I fell asleep during the teleprompter address last night.

rep_of_1
Mar 25, 2009 at 12:04 p.m.
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The teleprompter gave a wonderful speech. It was full of back pedal,incomplete answers and placing blame. Not once was the foresight of what will happen with the spending going out of control was addressed. Education is to blame and investing is the answer according to the source of no answers. In affect the blame was pointed right back at people that elected him to office.

usaret
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:48 p.m.
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Obama's speech is always the same. Nothing new, just repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat........and if you really listen real close, I'll bet you'll hear it repeated again.

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