If they're lousy drivers they deserve to be pulled over. I think this racial profiling thing has been whipped to death every time democrat get a foot hold of the power. After this.. i hope people have a little bit longer memories come election time, & start electing a third party instead of the two party monopoly (Dems & Reps).. & get rid of the old boys club in both. Yeah.. I know there's a women as speaker of the house, but she's no less a puppet then the others. They are all crooked as heck!

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dr1fever: Do you feel the same way about the posts by Blue21 or carlitosway or bella? Or did you single out my "story" because I am white? Are you "profiling" me?
I have asked before, and I'll ask again. When do we get to be a "colorblind" nation? I don't care what color you are, why should the government?

Mikki, I understand where you are coming from. My brother and his wife are what you would call "bikers", and due to a disability they no longer ride, but still look the part.
They are pulled over for the most petty things, and not even given tickets...just their licenses run.

Sandman you hit the nail on the head with some comedy to boot. I'm sure some one has an issue with not supporting Doyle for acting on an issue he has no first hand knowledge on.

Yes -- we should maximize the opportunity to provide people of all persuasions with pathetic excuses for their anti-social and illegal behaviors, thereby perpetuating their unreasonable and self-defeating overwhelming sense of entitlement, and certainly never inconvenience anyone whomsoever we might reasonably suspect is involved in suspicious activities or violations of any laws!
This is just one of a number of incompetent ideas championed by our invertebrate imbecile-in-chief, Doyle. Instead of indicating what kind of reliable, analyzable statistics this type of data collection has provided to agencies and municipalities which have been using such a system for some time (and what they have actually done with that information once it has been processed), it appears to be just another appeasement action that will waste time collecting simplistic data and reveal little about the issues at hand, whatever they might be, and certainly nothing to do with taking responsibility for ones actions!
Perhaps grandma and grandpa Larsen need to down a couple of 40s and get out driving in an unregistered car with one broken taillight, bustin' a few caps off after tryin' to score some H (just to even out the stats, of course!).
Let's move on to real meaty issues, like providing insurance benefits to the "domestic partners" of state employees another Doyle "weiner"! Wisconsin is certainly rolling in enough tax dough to fund that abomination with its (or is it "my"? deep pockets! So what if gay marriage got voted down by the citizens of WI, let's just call it what, by all appearances, it actually is at its core -- a grab for benefits, starting with state employees insurance funds. Hey, perhaps we should also keep statistics on traffic stops of state employees (couldn't be any less meaningless than the racial-data-collection proposal at hand!).

guyonthecouch...so what?
Who cares if you're not born with a tattoo.
I am talking about judging people by their looks.
Obviously you do, or you wouldn't have answered that way.

reed and bella I agree with your comments have seen it more times then I care to think about and with many people I know.. I was, in this town pulled over for "what the officer said was expired tag" which it wasn't and then asked who is the black guy in the back seat? I stated he is my foster son. He wanted ID from him I said he is 13 years old doesn't have an ID yet. I than said what I knew his reason for pulling me over really was and told him he was not making my 4 kids get out of the car as they nor i did anything wrong. This is not my only negative on this issue but they can cover and deny it all they want it does exist and many in this town know it and have experienced it. Im still interested on the true statistics on this.

thinkbeforeyouspeak--I distinctly remember shortly after 9/11 reading numerous newspaper articles and seeing TV reports recounting incidents of "unfair" scrutiny against our "fellow countrymen" of mideastern descent. Was it unfair? Maybe. Was it necessary? I think so. It's the old "damned if you do and damned if you don't."

Great point, woodsman.

I was accosted back in 1967 in Chicago,i was dropping off a black person that was a friend of mine to his house. I parked in the alley behind his parents apt.,when i was leaving after i had met his family,before i got in my car the cops had the guns drawn,asked me why i was in that neighborhood, i told them,and i was gone. But when i got home i informed my friend that i was not going to pick him up for our return trip. So profile,"not" i was where i wasn't suppose to be,i guess,sad but everybody isn't welcome every where in this world,just the way it is! I just wonder why Doyle needs to get involved here? did one of his boys get a ticket,or what!

And one more thing thinkbeforeyouspeak, I am also tired of those who blame Bush for everything. I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank George W. Bush for the big increase in the stock market today. Well done George.

...and thinkbeforeyouspeak, if you were a middle aged law abiding black man, wouldn't you want assurance, as a U.S. Citizen with constitutional rights that you were not being stopped by law enforcement just because you were black?

If all the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11 were of middle-eastern ancestory, should we not be looking at them, perhaps a bit more closely than other races, at our airports? I certainly would think so. Hell, if we were attacked my middle-aged white guys, I'd expect to be scrutinized.

thinkbeforeyouspeak, what was the context of the "punch-drunk" question? I have to laugh also, because when I think about where this country is now I could scream. Personal feelings aside, this country was put into a very tenuous position by actions taken over the last 8 years by the past administration. Whats done is done, but Mr. Obama is at a distinct disadvantage in trying to overcome the mess left behind by Mr. Bush. Take your own advice and leave personal feelings out of the argument.

Thanks bella, your observations speak directly to the problem. Unfortunately, profiling is tied to discrimination, a problem that's proven very difficult to eliminate from our society.

"Officers are taught to apply the law equally to everyone," Moore said.

“We are sensitive to performing our duties appropriately,” he said.

Really? Well, it would appear that your anointed leader ain't feeling it. So he'll squander public money to make you prove it. (The proposal is in Doyle’s budget.)

Brilliant.

ljs64--I also heard that Country Music Television will be televising this year's National Association for the Advancement of White People awards program.

No one is born with a tattoo, Mikki.

I am waiting for DirecTV to unveil their new show on WET - White Entertainment Television. I am also waiting for the UW to roll out the UWCF - United White College Fund. Oh, and I also heard on TV next week the History channel is celebrating WHM - White History Month. It's going to be a good month. Get Real..

Then let's count the long-haired, tattooed people that are pulled over, because plenty of THEM feel as if THEY are being targeted.

Great. The defense put up for Obama is Nixon? And Panama, put your personal thoughts aside about Bush. This isn't about him. Maturity? Please. Did you see the interview with Steve Kroft when he asked Obama if he was "punch drunk"? Classic. I am tired of supporters of Obama, and Obama himself constantly pointing to Bush.....It's like my 6 yr old......Blaming his sister for everything.........THIS ISN'T ABOUT BUSH ANYMORE.

What they don't tell you here is that the results of this "data collection" is NOT going to be available to the public. The Gov wants to keep the information secret. Why is that?

bella: Racism works in all directions. I am white. I have had to wait while a black clerk served the black person behind me in line. I've had a cigarette put out on my arm while walking in a black neighborhood (I call this one "Walking While White"). I have been pulled over by a black officer, although it never crossed my mind that it was because I am white. Sometimes it is legitimate for an officer to pull over someone and say "what are you doing here?". It may seem like profiling, but if a person is out of place in a neighborhood the officer may use his or her instincts and decide to check it out. White people are sometimes stopped in black neighborhoods and asked that question. Perhaps the officer suspects the person is looking for drugs for example. Did your friend actually get a ticket, or was he allowed to go on his way?

And yes I think this is stupid. But if you read my first post, I asked the question - is there a problem with racial profiling? I don't think there is, but if there is why don't people file a complaint if they feel they are being unfairly singled out and harassed?

Do you realize that every single US president elected since 2004 has been black? Okay, that was just s'posed to be funny :O)

How is it racial when the numbers present the facts?

Thinkbeforeyouspeak, you should add "Don't" before your name. How else could you write that Mr. Obama is "lowering the standards" of the Presidency by appearing on The Tonight Show or ESPN. Mr. Bush tarnished the office of the Presidency by openly violating the Constitution of this country. From day one, he proved himself an incompetent fool unable to speak or think coherently and made a compelling argument for the fact that you can't fake intelligence. Mr. Obama, on the other hand, is making a valiant effort to bring back some degree of maturity, civility and panache to the Presidency. He is intelligent, engaging and has a great sense of humor. After 8 years of ineptitude, embarrassment and shame it's a welcome change. Maybe Mr. Bush will appear on the Jerry Springer show, that's the program most of his supporters watch anyway.

To those of you who think this is stupid and a waste of time...you've probably never been pulled over because of the color of your skin. Or followed around a store while your white friends are walking around unsupervised. Or ignored in line while white customers are served first. This happens ALL THE TIME.

I am white and have never been pulled over for any other reason than my own mistakes. However, my friends of different ethnic backgrounds have been pulled over for absolutely no reason whatsoever. I've seen it myself. I had been at a bar drinking and didn't think I should drive home, so a good friend of mine who doesn't drink came to pick me up in his car. No broken tail lights, nothing wrong with the registration, no erratic driving....and he got pulled over. The question he was asked was "what are you doing here?". It's infuriating, embarrassing, and just plain unfair. Kudos to Governor Doyle for recognizing the problem!

Not commenting on this article as I already commented on a previous one with the same information.

there is one minority officer and apparently he is native american

they had a article about it several months ago

And if they can honestly say they is no discrimination they need to open their eyes. i have had several instances with some of my firends when they are the only one being question by the police while the rest of us just stand by

Stupid....Stupid.....Stupid.....

And one more......

STUPID!

This is what you get when you elect far-left democrats, not to mention the appearances on the Tonight Show and ESPN from our President. Way to lower the standards of that Office, Barack. I'm so sick of BS like this from the likes of Doyle and Obama.

And yes, I know Obama had nothing to do with this proposal. I just feel like going off on them today. They both make my skin crawl.

I will be curious to see the statistics when or if they are made public and the reasons for the traffic stops. Also what is the ratio as to minority officers and minority population in Janesville? does anyone know?

Oh and lets not forget to monitor how many white officers pull over black drivers and how many black officers pull over white drivers. All that this extra time, paperwork, and money is going to accomplish is JPD can say they have no racial profiling in their department. Of course not! What kind of an idiot would continue such practice and keep a record of it!

Is there a problem with so-called "racial profiling"? Okay, let's track this. Now, suppose the numbers reveal that black motorists are 23% more likely to be pulled over. So what do you do with that data? Another study to find out the reasons? Discipline the officers who pulled over the black motorists (and recorded their "mistake"!)? Instructing officers to pull over fewer black motorists, or more white motorists? Don't the police have enough on their plate, without having to bow to the god of political correctness?