Janesville police tackle underage alcohol consumption

By STAN STRICKER ( Contact )   Wednesday, June 10, 2009
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WCLO's Stan Stricker reports on Janesville police efforts to prevent underage alcohol consumption

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Janesville police call underage drinking an expensive problem.

Deputy Police Chief Dan Davis says officers are reinforcing efforts this week to curb the problem. On Monday compliance checks of 17 liquor stores found three sold alcohol to underage patrons. Thursday and Friday Davis says patrols will be increased in anticipation of complaint calls related to parties after graduation at Craig and Parker High Schools.

He says for some reason allowing underage persons to drink after graduation is considered a right of passage in Wisconsin.







reader COMMENTS (49)
DiGriz
Jun 12, 2009 at 4:57 a.m.
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I should clarify that Guard/Reserves on active duty (deployed/mobilized CONUS) with orders should qualify. If at home, forget it.

DiGriz
Jun 12, 2009 at 4:45 a.m.
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"As it should be. I see no problem with a graduate having a good time after completing four years of hell. I still believe if one can go off to fight a war or smoke a pack of cigarettes. That one should be able to consume a alcoholic beverage if they choice to do so"
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I agree with one part of it. If you are on active duty in the military (not guard/reserves, because the younger ones forget their oath of enlistment when showing up in as inconvenience), are 18, and have a valid current driver's license, you should be allowed to purchase and consume adult beverages in the state of Wisconsin. If not, forget it until you get back from boot camp or turn 21.
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Four years of high school equals hell? What kind of whoopsies are we raising these days?

RummageSalesRock
Jun 11, 2009 at 9:11 p.m.
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Oh, to add to the previous post, guess who was the bad guy? Not the one supplying the alcohol. But I welcome the blame....and made my point!

RummageSalesRock
Jun 11, 2009 at 9:10 p.m.
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Honestly, good luck with that. But, until the parents decide to jump on board, you will be fighting a never ending battle. Too many parents buying this crap for the kids. I busted in on a party that was supplied by parents. GUESS WHAT? My child was removed from the situation and punished even though he wasn't participating. That is not tolerated in my home, but is in so many.

Coppertop
Jun 11, 2009 at 7:15 p.m.
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Hate to burst your bubble whythink, but once your child is 18, you can't sue another person on behalf of your 18 year old child for say expenses incurred in the case of alcohol manipulated reasons. Once 18, it is bound to legal adult status. Adults vote, make their own decisions and must abide to the law like every other adult. On the other hand, if your child was 17 or under... don't you think that as a parent, you should be held responsible to know where your children are and what they are doing regardless of what activity they attend to?

archer
Jun 11, 2009 at 6:22 p.m.
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Yea SwissChick, I know you weren't the original poster of that statement... but you said "Couldn't have said it better myself! That is exactly the problem." Which means you agree 100 percent with that statement and connects you to that post as if you did say it.
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whythink... Nobody is suggesting teaching kids to binge drink. Sheesh. You people can hash this out and sue each other all day long... I'm out>>>------>

SwissChick
Jun 11, 2009 at 3:35 p.m.
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I wasn't the one that posted that. Go after the original poster. I'm saying that as parents (adults), we have a responsibility not to put kids in a bad situation, whether they are ours or not. When parents do something like that, and something bad comes of it, then they (parents) should expect to pay the consequences.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 2:31 p.m.
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Face the facts folks, these 18 year olds (the ones going away to college) are going to be binge drinking in 3 months. You might as well prepare them for it.
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They don't have to be. So what, start em binge drinkn young so they are ready fr that dar schooling.
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WOW!
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Are you going to purchase a hooker for you son/daughter because they will probably be having sex at college as well? Teach em how to do it now?
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It is fine to expose YOUR child to alcohol and have them understand what happens when they binge drink but, as you suggested, teaching them to binge drink, I guess it will keep the RN's busy. Right sarahb?

aj131
Jun 11, 2009 at 2:09 p.m.
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Let them do it now before they get to college and their activities are completely unsupervised. Teach them how to drink responsibly and they'll be better off. Face the facts folks, these 18 year olds (the ones going away to college) are going to be binge drinking in 3 months. You might as well prepare them for it.

copperguy
Jun 11, 2009 at 1:57 p.m.
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LOVEISGOOD: The Courts have ruled that having a substance in your bloodstream does not constitute either "possession" or "consumption." It's true with drugs and alcohol.

Kramer
Jun 11, 2009 at 1:53 p.m.
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LoveisGood, I believe there are laws that help ensure that drug users receive medical care. Right or wrong, I think the laws are based on the premise that it is better to have drug users receive treatment for overdoses anything else while they are under the influence than to avoid proper care because they would get turned in to the authorities.

SarahB1
Jun 11, 2009 at 1:48 p.m.
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Does any other state allow underage people to consume alcohol if a parent/guardian is on the premises? Parents of graduates, please don't cave in this graduation weekend. As an RN with 20 years job experience, I have cared for too many underage kids who arrived at the hospital so intoxicated that they were on death's doorstep. If the drinker cannot be aroused, please seek help. Being passed out is NOT safe.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 1:29 p.m.
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donkeykong,
Yeah yeah, and if I provide condoms they won't get pregnant or STD's and since they will do it anyways I might as well make sure it is safe.
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How about raising kids who just don't do it?
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archer,
I believe why my son/daughter move out and are on the own...god willing by age 18ish, they can then make their own decisions about alcohol.
While they live with me and I can be held accountable I will make that decision.
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My kids and I have a good relationship and they have always understood that there are consequences.
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My biggest issue isn't with alcohol and drinking, heck if I want to have a beer with my son on his graduation day I don't see an issue with that.
My problem is with another parent deciding that my son/daughter needs a beer on his graduation day.
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Basically, don't mess with my kids.
That was the point of the article...right?

copperguy
Jun 11, 2009 at 1:18 p.m.
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Does anyone know if Janesville Area Crimestoppers pays for information leading to charges at an underage alcohol party? My experience with Crimestoppers has been pretty strong. A lot of young people are really motivated by $50 or $100, especially with the guarantee of anonymity.

donkeykong
Jun 11, 2009 at 12:18 p.m.
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Some of you amaze me (whythink)....your name says it all....all you who hide alcohol and make it out to be this completely taboo thing to do are missing the point....your kids are going to be the ones who fall of the deep end in college or when they get out of your "control"...teaching responsibility and living in reality (regardless of what some ridiculous law says) is how you raise a child who will be responsible and know how to make the right decisions....someone should teach whythink that in this country sueing over EVERYTHING is a much more expensive problem

archer
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:38 a.m.
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SwissChick; I'm not re-wording anything you said, but you are trying to put words in my post. You said you couldn't have said it better to"...if any parent allows my son or daughter to attend or participate in a drinking party while still underage...They better have a pretty good lawyer because I will sue them for everything they have." You also said your kids know the law. So if they know the law, and still participate in illegal activities, they are irresponsible and you are expecting someone else to do your job of teaching them something. Be very clear about one thing... I never said they "deserve it" or that it is a "right". The bottom line is that it will be available whether you like it or not. Personally, I would not supply someone elses teens with booze, but someone always will.

whythink; So at 18 years and 1 day, the cord is cut and they are flying solo with no experience concerning alcohol. Sounds like a winner of a plan. The decision to drink or not, and if yes... how much is not something that is acquired in one day after 21 years of zero experience. Also, I never said someone who supplies minors with alcohol shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, but there are laws in place with penalties for such behavior. Suing someone for "everything they have" because they gave your kid a beer is a little over the top don't you think?

LOVEISGOOD
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:35 a.m.
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How about a 20 year old Milton man goes to Mercy for a heroin overdose . He is treated and then released ! Why ?

Why is he released ? Is heroin use not against the law ? It is in today's Gazette . No name give . Someone help me with this ? I don't understand .

thekid3477
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:33 a.m.
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got ya. of course if your child was injured and another parent was responsible you should try to recoup expenses. your first statement made it sound as tho if they merely allowed them to drink you were gonna sue them.

Opinionsforfree
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:28 a.m.
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Whythink. Do you take meds for having split personality's? I agree with archer. I would rather have kids exposed to alcohol before they are 21 (if they chose they want to drink that way any issues that may arise could be delt with before they turn 21 and decide to hit the bar scene. I know it against the "law". I personally don't care.

spark
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:11 a.m.
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...sorry...suits.

spark
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:10 a.m.
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Lost_city - Your name suites you well. You are completely lost.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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Depends on what happens to my kid.
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example: if there is a car accident...hospital bills
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If my kids just gets drunk then I would fight to press charges for all laws broken.
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whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.
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Here’s a newsflash for ya… there is alcohol at teen parties whether it was supplied by a parent or not.
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And whomever supplied the alcohol to the party; parents, the liquor store or a friend...
Should be held accountable.
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thekid3477
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:06 a.m.
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im curious. if a parent allowed your kid to drink...what would you sue them for??

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 11:04 a.m.
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I plan on letting them make their own decisions when they are ADULTS. Until they are 18 and on their own I will give them structure.
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How about this...I will hold my son/daughter accountable for their decision to drink...AND I will hold the adult accountable for providing the alcohol.
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The kids shouldn't be the only ones with consequences.

archer
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:56 a.m.
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whythink; You talk about your “child” as if he/she is 6 years old. You can’t hold their hand forever. Part of being responsible enough to attend a party in the first place is knowing how to handle such dilemmas. If you can’t trust your kids then that is between you and them, but don’t put the blame on someone else. Laws are broken everyday, and the opportunity for poor decision making is lurking everywhere. What do you plan on doing when they go off to college or head to the bar at age 21? Everyone makes such a big deal about ZERO alcohol for the underage, when they are exposed to it they don’t have a clue how to handle it.

SwissChick
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:53 a.m.
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My kids are responsible and know the law. Don't try to reword anything I've said.

You are obviously part of the problem with underage parties and the alcohol supplied to them, all because you think they "deserve" it or it's their "right". You also open yourself up to the legal liability aspect should someone leave a party and have an accident, etc.

archer
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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SwissChick; You may be responsible, but you are suggesting that your kids are not. By the time teens are graduation age they had better know how to deal with these situations.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:18 a.m.
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WRONG!
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If my child attends a party and I check to make sure parents will be in attendance then I should also be sure that my child won't be offered or provided alcohol at that party.
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If my child is offered alcohol and makes the bad choice he/she will have consequences at home but that doesn't change the FACT that a parent broke the laws and sent a very mixed message to my child.
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Peer pressure from other kids to do stuff behind the back of parents is bad enough...I don't need the pressure to be intensified because some parents feel it is OK for kids to drink.
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For all of you arguing the "fun" factor. If you need alcohol to have "fun" you are a loser. That is just a fact. I enjoy my beer as much as anyone but the day I say to myself that I can't have fun without it, hopefully it is the day I die.
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Opinionsforfree
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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Whythink. I am aware of what the LAW says. you obvious missed my point. You still need to loosen up a bit.

SwissChick
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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Once again, whythink, you said it right. It's like what you said before. It's the parents, who haven't grown up yet and want to be "buds" with their kids and their kids' friends.

PS - archer. I am not a failure as a parent or as anything else in life. I'm responsible.

archer
Jun 11, 2009 at 10:02 a.m.
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whythink and SwissChick; If you raised your teens right you wouldn’t have to worry about them getting bombed at a party. Don’t put the blame one someone else’s parents for your kids’ poor decision making. Here’s a newsflash for ya… there is alcohol at teen parties whether it was supplied by a parent or not. Your kids need to be responsible for their own actions. This mentality of “I’ll sue you if my kid screws up…” is one of the biggest problems with today’s society. You failed as a parent so you expect someone else to pick up your slack.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 9:47 a.m.
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opinions
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I don't necessarily disagree with you BUT currently the Law does disagree with you.
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I didn't wait until 21 but that was between myself and my family's values.
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And 4 years of "Hell" are you kidding me. HS = Hell, yeah, prom, football games, dating, and 6-7 classes = "Hell". I don't think so. At the time, yes it is difficult then the reality of the "real world" of work, bills, kids, bills, work, kids, and you look forward to your reunions to forget about bills, kids, and work and remember the fun of prom, football games and ONLY 6-7 classes.
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They don't need a beer and 17 they need a reality check.
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Oh, and yes, I am a blast to hang-out with. I don't need an personality altering substance to make me fun.
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DO YOU?

thekid3477
Jun 11, 2009 at 9:24 a.m.
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this is not tackling the underage drinking problem. this is a pr move to make it look like they are ATTEMPTING to tackle the underage drinking problem. the underage drinking problem CANT be tackled

CallitasIseeit
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:57 a.m.
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Opinions-I have no problem with a responsible group of graduates having a few beers. I do have a problem with parents throwing these parties and allowing any 15 or 16 year old to attend.

Opinionsforfree
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:50 a.m.
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I bet all of you think your allot of fun to hang out with too.

SwissChick
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:49 a.m.
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Four years of hell!!!! Wait until they get out in the REAL WORLD!!

Opinionsforfree
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:47 a.m.
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As it should be. I see no problem with a graduate having a good time after completing four years of hell. I still believe if one can go off to fight a war or smoke a pack of cigarettes. That one should be able to consume a alcoholic beverage if they choice to do so

SwissChick
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:47 a.m.
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whythink - Couldn't have said it better myself! That is exactly the problem.

CallitasIseeit
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:41 a.m.
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Certainly seems like a PRESCRIPTION for trouble.

whythink
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:19 a.m.
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This is a serious issue where parents, who haven't grown up yet, are still looking to be "cool" and make friends instead of being the parent.
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The consequences are huge for parents who host. I don't think the kids or parents realize it.
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I do know this, if any parent allows my son or daughter to attend or participate in a drinking party while still underage...They better have a pretty good lawyer because I will sue them for everything they have.
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No parent has a right to undermine my decision regarding my children and underage drinking.
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People better wake-up to this because you want a huge civil lawsuit against you...keep hosting underage drinking parties. Eventually someone will get injured or worse.

CallitasIseeit
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:10 a.m.
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Or junior proms for that matter.

jandsmac
Jun 11, 2009 at 8:02 a.m.
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You hit that nail right on the head CallitasIseeit. Amazing the amount of parents that provide for their TEENS, especially at their grad parties.

CallitasIseeit
Jun 11, 2009 at 7:18 a.m.
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Who needs liquor stores and hockey games when the parents can just write a PRESCRIPTION for a kegger party for their kids and underage friends.........

sannio
Jun 11, 2009 at 6:59 a.m.
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Their parents probably grew up when the age limit was 19 so ya, right of passage.

Lost_city
Jun 10, 2009 at 10:32 p.m.
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pretty soon you will be able to take the kids out to the hockey game and get them drunk.

rooster
Jun 10, 2009 at 5:51 p.m.
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drinking alcohol in wisconsin is a way of life.

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