Super - I did see the unedited footage - I think I did anyways - if wanted to post a link that would be great. If you are talking about Palin's interview with that pittbull Catie Couric I saw the unedited version - its was very funny! You certainly have to admit now that she was a bad choice? Did you see her resignation speech?

prounion: Again, you are drinking the media Kool-Aid. She didn't say that "Russia can be physically viewed from your state as proof" (she) "would do well on foriegn policy issues". She mentioned the proximity to Russia to explain why she would have had occasion to deal with the Russians (and not to mention the fact that many people are geographically challenged and would not have known that).
Then she was PORTRAYED and JUDGED to be ignorantly assuming that this somehow constitutes valid foreign policy credentials. But that is not what she said.
In addition, some of the bigger interviews she did were intentionally editted to make her look foolish. This doesn't mean she is dumb - it means she was PORTRAYED as being dumb. Those of us that sought out the uneditted version of her interviews know better, while those that just watched the TV version were duped.
You can hate her guts if you want - doesn't matter to me. But I really didn't come on here to defend Sarah Palin. My comments are more about how the media can unfairly target certain individuals. True journalism is getting harder and harder to find. Mainstream journalism died years ago.

I don't think andre is smart enough to have noticed, but his ilk LOST bigtime. Americans turned out overwhelmingly at the polls to tell bugs like andre that his ideas are stuopid and FAILED. Do you get it, andre? YOU LOST!! YOUR IDEAS ARE INSIGNIFICANT, much like you.

Yah andre. Don't be honest...that would not be in keeping with your normal pattern. YOU run and hide from every allegation you make. "Oh, no, no no, not me. I never said this and I never said that"...immediately after you say this and that. I think you are gutless, and very, very ignorant. You don't even know what Socialism is...you confuse it every day with Democracy. Now...about the Palin issue--do you have anything to say about issues? You NEVER have yet, so I don't expect you to now either. THAT would require courage. As far as being your junior...LOL No one is Junior to a bug.

Super - well not sure about the bias I seem to remember Biden getting asked the same questions in regards to supreme court cases and he was able to answer?
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There seemed to be a basic knwoledge problem that led to her lack of perspective - she just doesn't seem to be able to see the big picture from a politically savvy point of view - you just don't say that Russia can be physically viewed from your state as proof you would do well on foriegn policy issues. To do so means - yup you guessed it - people making fun of you thinking your a rube.

prounion: You said "The republicans run someone really really dumb and a little crazy. The news figures this out and runs stories on how this person is clearly the wrong choice for office - is that an attack?". Uh, no. But then your scenario is not what happened. You apparently cannot see this for what it is, due to your opinions. But let me ask you this - why was Biden not given the same type of coverage, he's certainly a "colorful" character, and that's putting it mildly. And btw, it's not the news media's responsibility to run "stories on how this person is clearly the wrong choice for office". That's for the voters to decide. The way you phrased that indicates to me that you are aware of the liberal bias in the media!

OK Superdave picture this - The republicans run someone really really dumb and a little crazy. The news figures this out and runs stories on how this person is clearly the wrong choice for office - is that an attack? If the candidate can't answer simple run of the mill questions don't get upset when the news doesn't show her in a good light - and a candidate unable to name supreme court cases - yes the dems are terrified of that candidate.

whythink: I know you truly respect me, but the cliche that people get their information from "Hannity and Rush" (don't forget Fox News!) is really getting old. I mean, do I accuse you of getting all your information from Katie Couric? That's just a red herring.
You may think that the Dems want Palin to be nominated in 2012, but the proof of my assertion is in the non-stop attacks on Palin since she hit the national scene. This level of viciousness is truly unprecedented. These are not random attacks, the powers that be in the Democratic Party and the lapdog media choose their targets carefully. Remember what they did to "Joe the Plumber" for asking Obama just ONE question?
You also said "considering the context, foreign policy, it has to be the most pathetic answer in the history of modern politics". Really? I think she drew a valid distinction between herself and Joe Biden, since she did indeed have to occasionally dabble in international relations given the proximity to Russia. So that was another true statement. She wasn't defining herself as a foreign policy wonk, but just mentioning that she had on occasion dealt with the Russians. This in response to a question. I found the criticism of her response to be entirely overblown.

The epitome of stupidity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e...

LOL - Andre that was an excellent point - your the best debater ever.

Andre did you even have a point to make?

andre's love for palin is apparently forcing him to stand alone as her sole neo-con supporter. Four (yes, andre, 4!) repubic senators were on the television talk shows Sunday, speaking of the blight that palin has become on their party. One called her "a quitter," a position that andre has ascribed to liberals. Hey andre--it's coming from your own beloved neo-cons, not from the left. Another repubic called her "a train wreck." A third said she was "an albatross around the neck of the party." Sounds like your neo-con pals hate her as much as the liberals do, andre. andre --you also call prounion "an amateur when it comes to debate." Well, in looking over your posts, it is evident that you haven't even reached amateur status yet. You STRIVE to reach the heights of amateurism. Your posts, consistently- one after another, completely ignore debate as you engage in name calling, calling everyone who disagrees with you "the dumbest person on the face of the earth" and other nice things. You cry because people won't debate with you, but when they try, you call them names and never do address any issues. Your posts are a series of childish tantrums.

Dang Adnre you are a question dodger - or did you actually think the mission accomplished banner was a great idea? As far as my skills as a debater - go get your daddy's shoes boy and debate like an adult.
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Of course I am an amateur when it comes to debate - what are your getting paid for this?Did you turn pro?
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If my views are so flawed - maybe you might want to try debate instead of just looking at my name.

Andre - you have become as likable as that incessant laughing at the fair fun house. Same old stuff, post after post. If you really think you hurt someone with your "liberal" put downs, your as ignorant as your buddy Rush.

superdave
I do not mean this to be disrespectful, but PLEASE, try to get your information from someone other than Hannity and Rush.
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The fear thing is absolutely funny! Dems. are praying for her to be the Rep. nominee in 2012.
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The Russia comment is true I don't doubt that, but considering the context, foreign policy, it has to be the most pathetic answer in the history of modern politics.

whythink: Re: "the I can see Russia comment". I believe she actually said "you can actually see Russia from Alaska" which is a true statement. She was spoofed on SNL, saying "I can see Russia from my house" in an airheaded kind of way.
Palin is such a lightning rod, not because of any mistakes she may have made, but quite the opposite. The Democratic Party fears her because of her success and her popularity.
I wish the media would leave her alone, and instead concentrate on the non-stop scandals going on RIGHT NOW in Washington DC. Of course, that won't happen because most in the media support the current Socialist regime.

I have a question:
If anyone, women, man, Dem. or Rep. did exactly what she did (from falling for a Candadian Radio spoof, to the hockey mom pitbull joke, to the I can see Russia comment, to the abstinence only (but my 17 year old is pregnant) wouldn't the media be all over him/her?
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I just don't know what person could have done what she did and have been anything other than a punch-line. The facts are she was thrown into the fire and got burned.
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She just wasn't ready. Nothing against the Mrs. Palin, because very few people are ready for the pressure of a presidential race in this country.
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Look what is being done to Sotomayor. Speeches, not from the bench, but motivational speeches to young women, young hispanic women are being used to identify her skills as a judge.
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Why isn't the focus only her actual rulings?
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Because personal attacks, quotes taken out of context, are always easier, quicker and more effective.
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That is what happened to John Kerry, Sarah Palin and now Sotomayor.
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Some can handle it, some are just that dedicated to serving others and some, like Mrs. Palin, are greedy opportunists who quit public life and write a book/begin a reality show.
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BTW, if Mrs. Palin really wants herself and her family to be left alone/be taken seriously she should not do a reality show. All attacks, if a former VP candidate starts are reality show, are then asked for.

Andre - I knew you really couldn't hold your own on this board but you are not a question dodger are you?

Andre - Did Bush know his history as well as you do? Can you honestly say that the mission accomplished sign was a good idea? By stating Mission accomplished I just meant that you had recieved yet another beat down, sounds like "mission accomplished" is a forbidden phrase in your camp now, sorry I didn't mean to be insensitive.
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It does amaze me though that republicans want to go to Obama's misspoken words when he is clearly vastly more informed and articulate that Bush or Palin (do I really need to post a link?).

darwin:
You crack me up.
I never was comparing the two. Just making the point that often your best leadership comes from those who are the most controversial. You can find examples of that throughout history. I also find it humerus that you always refer to me as a republican. I am not registered to any party, and have not voted in years. I play the futures markets on intrade for political elections, and events. I don't care for either party. They are both in the process of destroying the country. The democrats will just get there a little faster.

Really doesn't matter what party it is, they are both LOADED with corruption, and sexual escapades/misconduct.
aruba threw out some republican names. Just off the top of my head on the Democratic side you have of recent:
Rod Blogojevich (all sorts of corruption charges in the making),
Elliot Spitzer (soliciting a prostitute)
John Edwards (extra marital affair while his own wife had breast cancer)
Kwame Kilpatrick (marital infidelity, conspiracy, perjury, corruption, and murder) This guy hit the high 5, MOST IMPRESSIVE!.
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Really does not matter the party. Can't believe people still don't get the fact that most all in elected office are corrupt or unethical. It's all part of being a politician. Yet many still want the same people to be running every aspect of your life.

Andre hates the poem
About his dream girl Palin
At every negative comment
He just starts wailin’
He hates the union and the Dem’s
Sounds like one of Rush Limbaugh’s gems
No one’s smarter, he will tell you so
But most of his posts just continue to blow

Here Aruba, maybe you need to look at this before aggravating the great Andre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwAO4fkND...

Be afraid, be very afraid!

andre...I'm just posting links like you wanted prounion to post. I can't help it if you don't like the ones I post.

Thanks jimbo. That's what I was thinking.

andre...Do your own work. But what else could I expect from a Republican.

Mission Accomplished...that's right up there with "You're doin' a heck of job Brownie." You have to say one thing for the Bush Administration, they were consistent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G36E03Y8W...

Come on Andre - Bush's gaffes are common knowledge. Mission Accomplished!

Superdave - I would have to say there are at least as many media outlets that are Republican biased as there are Democratically ones. (Of course the dorks at Fox news can't even get facts straight most of the time). The problem with Sarah is she had her 15 min of fame, she needs to go away. There are many Republicans who even wish that. She is the one supplying the nails for her political coffin.

Not to be out done by Obama, Bush displays his intelligence, rather lack of it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETkVc8el...

Good one Andre - magnify by 100 and you have a common happenstance from a day in the life of W when he was president. You are cluctching at straws in your zeal to say something bad about this president.

Let's not forget the fine and outstanding members of the GOP:

Mark Foley - sexual misconduct

Larry Craig - sexual misconduct

John Ensign - extra-marital affair

Mark Sanford - extra-marital affair

And the GOP said Ensign and Sanford were Presidential hopefuls. Good luck with that!

SuperDave, if Rick did decide to stop his left leaning retorts he would then lose his beloved spot on Huff Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-horow...

We instead we have the four bozos of Pelosi, Reid, Franks, and Dodd being led by the Obama pied piper.

Katy: Thanks for your reply. I kind of expected something like that as I wrote my comments. My point is, Horowitz has a national audience, so why not do something productive instead of jumping on the naaa, na na, naaaa, na, anti-Palin bandwagon and adding exactly nothing to the national debate. Yes, he has the freedom to express his opinion, as we all do, at least until the current political direction plays out, but I digress.
As far as my reading of "conservative columnists", thank you no. I don't drink that kool-aid either. I'm just tired of all those who jump all over Sarah Palin while ignoring the greater transgressions of the current regime, e.g. budget deficits until we die, government health care, gov't auto companies, gov't financial institutions, cap & tax (your utility bills will at least double if this thing passes), etc. After all, the DEMOCRATS WON THE ELECTION. Why not talk about what they are ACTUALLY DOING, rather than try to drive another nail into Sarah Palin's political career. I've said it before, but I can only conclude that the current regime is ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED of Sarah Palin, and will stop at nothing to de-rail her political ambitions. You do understand that the national media is in bed with the Democratic Party, right?

SuperDave: Rick Horowitz is a syndicated columnist, not a journalist. Columnists have the freedom to express their opinions without fearing that people proclaim their "reporting" to be biased. Of course it's biased, because columnists comment on news cycles based on their opinions. So you can go read conservative columnists if it so pleases your philosophical bent, but remember, they aren't reporting anything either. You just might agree with their slant on the news. But they are just as biased as Horowitz is, just in a different direction.

Who is going to keep an eye on the Russians now?

Comparing Roosevelt to Palin? Maybe on the planet of the incompetent Republicans. Please spare me. The only difference between her and a rock is that the rock knows to keep its mouth shut.

What a totally lame piece of Democratic propaganda. What a waste of space! Here's a thought for YOU, Rick Horowitz: how about doing your job and engage in a little actual journalism? Or maybe try some critical thinking. Both are new concepts, I know. How does it feel to be Rahm Emanuel's lapdog, btw?

At least we don't have that bozo team of Bush and Cheney.

Hmmm; I think this has drifted far out of the realm of Palin!
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Thinking back to that election, I was actually considered of voting for McCain, just because I figured if he won there was a pretty good chance he'd pull a William Henry Harrison, or Zachery Taylor, and then you'd have Palin as President! Often your best leaders come from those who are the most controversial. Hence my example of Teddy Roosevelt becoming President when McKinley was assassinated. Roosevelt was demonized to no ends as a cowboy, extremest, ext ext. Once he ascended to the presidency, he became one of the best to ever hold the office, in my opinion.
Palin would have been great, if McCain won, and proceeded to keel over! Now if anything happens you'll just get a total clueless goof ball with Biden, aka Gerald Ford!

"But that is because you invented it."
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Yep, that solves it..you win.

You sure like the word drivel! But that is because you invented it.

Your small minded, prejudicial, and stereotypical attacks on union people prove that.

prounion, andre is bringing a knife to a gun fight. Besides, Andre Linoge (Storm of the Century) is a nut job who constantly repeats "Give me what I want and I'll go away" through his victims as well as to his victims. Interestingly, although the adults are terrified of the stranger, all the children are drawn to him.
I see now why he uses THAT moniker.

I thought I would offer the invitation to joust - since you "live" to joust with people like me.

Andre - that is excellent - I am debating the existance of god on the bible camp story - care to join us?

kiowamohican: Thank you for the explanation. Sorry I misunderstood what you wrote.

Boston Bill:

I'm probably no more nuts then the next guy.
Can't say I really have a "favorite" assassin. Just trying to keep you all on your toes. Would have been easy to say Lee Harvey Oswald, or John Wiles Booth. Much more entertaining to use more obscure Czolgosz, or even Charles Guiteau for that matter. However; of all the 4, Czolgosz was the one who truly was "nuts". John Hinkley Jr would be the other one who was nuts; but of course he did not succeed.
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Go ahead and contact secret service if you wish though. They get a few thousand threats per week. Not like I was even making a threat. Just pointing out that you'd really be sitting on some real great leadership with Joe Biden if anything were to happen to Obama. It's not like you had a Teddy Roosevelt as VP like you did when Czolgosz acted.

Andre - you seem a little blue - did you want to share your pain with us? Might help if you talked it out.

speaking of nut jobs

kiowamohican wrote:
“I personally don't think she was any more of a nut job then our current VP.”

You also wrote, “Ah well; no worries...He's just one "heartbeat" away from the Presidency, if some true nut job goes Leon Czolgosz again!”

kiowamohican, Are you that “nut job”?

Is Leon Frank Czolgosz your favorite assassin?
You are not well. Perhaps the Secret Service should be made aware of your posts.

I personally don't think she was any more of a nut job then our current VP. A man who got through law school by plagiarizing material. A man who proudly proclaimed that FDR went on TV after the 29 stock market crash. Even though TV's were not invented yet, and FDR wasn't even President yet. A man who tells people that they should not get on a plane, or travel any place, when the swine flu broke. Then most recently said "we 'misread' the economy" when unemployment saw an increase to levels well above where their administration forecasted. Oddly; during the campaign he was touting that it was "the worse economy since the Great Depression". Which makes one wonder just how one could "misread" it, if that were the case.
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Ah well; no worries...He's just one "heartbeat" away from the Presidency, if some true nut job goes Leon Czolgosz again!

Loved the two posts by opinion80 and aruba. Palin has been like fingernails on the blackboard to me since the day I first heard her voice on the radio when she was tabbed to be the VP running mate. I just wish she would go away for good. I would not be surprised if there is some controversy in the Alaska government that she wants to avoid dealing with by quitting.

Kio good point. Actually her quitting is the worst thing that could have happened to the left. She's a nutjob but she sure did stir up the rube part of the Republican party, which helped to drive away people that can actually think. If she did make room for an actuall leader to emerge that would be great for the Republicans.

Amazing the obsession with Palin. Never has a loosing VP candidate got so much press after defeat. Not sure why the political left is still obsessed by her? She had no political future on the national scene even if she stayed as Governor of Alaska. It's rather amusing to hear the left demonize all these irrelevant figures while the economy continues in it's full scale melt down under their brilliant tutelage.

Both Sarah Palin and Tricky Dick
called it quits with indignant shtick
Sarahs tongue went on a rambling roll
No doubt in January it would have froze to a pole
You betcha she said with indignant zeal
Point guardin' is like harpoonin' baby seal
You drive to the basket and make them squeal
I think Harry Truman said it best
second rate politicians should heed his test
If you can't take the heat get out of the Kitchen
Us real Americans won't miss your constant bitchin!

andre - the Goremiester didn't QUIT being vice president 1 year early to go speaking, so your comparison is lame.

nice one aruba!

High from a chopper she shoots a moose,
Levi regrets giving Bristol the goose.
She quit her job and deserted her folk,
After some sex Todd desires a smoke.
While she stumbles with words in her head,
Todd's still smokin' that joint in their bed.
Now she has quit with no one to blame,
The analogy she used was amazingly lame.

When she took office, she took an oath of office. Apparently an oath doesn't mean much to her.

The problem with her "I'm passing the ball for victory" basketball analogy, the star player doesn't walk off the court after passing the ball.

as the dead lotus
nobody likes a quitter
now, go on show tour

Andre - Palin was scandelously ignorant. Do you have a link to a previous Presidents record for that - other than Bush of course?

We were not looking for a biopic,
some are way off topic.
I don't mean to sound terse,
Where is the posting in verse?

15yearsthere - excellent!

andre: great point with the Clinton link! Rick horowitz has shown himself here not to be a journalist but a 3rd rate Poem writer! Some of you were better than him!!! Get rid of this guy! I love Sarah Palin and respect her right to choose to stay or go. They were attacking her family without any outrage! Where is President Obama who said the children were off limits??!! He should have been standing up for her but I think he is afraid of Dave! God bless her for choosing to protect her family first. I as a mother can totally understand wanting to keep their hands off them and when no one would stand up for her, she took the best route she could and resigned!! Thank you Sarah for putting family first!

Sarah supports abstinence education in school,

Too bad her daughter shacked up with a fool,

Letterman got tons of laughs because of him,

Sara decided it would work to take the role of victim,

Anti-intillectuals loved her,

Now they'll see more of Sarah on Springer.

Palin is a tool can't the GOP find someone with a brain

Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." --Sarah Palin, declaring her support for abstinence-only education in a questionnaire during her 2006 gubernatorial race
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"What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" --Sarah Palin, inquiring with Wasilla librarian Mary Ellen Emmons about banning books right after taking office in 1996

yeah, andre, moving on to make more money on a talk show or on the speech circuit, while leaving the job she ran for and was elected to. She made a commitment to those people for those votes, and now she is bailing out. Quit trying to defend the noodle head, ya hey der.

Andre - Clinton has been gone for quite some time now, or as your source would put it, which is apt considering Palin, quit some time now.

MrScott - I believe the transporter has scrambled your brain, lad. Better go see Doc McCoy!

Opinion80, I like your post the best:)

Personally, she gives me nightmares. But Horowitz should stop being so superior. A good columnist would look for something beyond the easy joke. Or better, ignore the lightweights and pick on somebody who matters. Things are actually happening in Washington that deserve our attention

Here were are in 2009,
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Our economy is doing not so fine.
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Obama said unemployment would peak at 8 percent,
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But his stimulus plan has yet to make a dent.
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Oh by the way, unemployment is at 9.5,
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somehow his numbers just didn't jive.
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If Reid and Pelosi continue to run free,
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there won't be anything left for you and me.
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If cap and trade continues as it is written,
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millions of small businesses will feel as if a shark has bitten.
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If you want once again for your billfolds to be hearty,
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In the 2012 election vote for the Common Sense Party.

Andre - maybe you can email the source of your link and ask them to fix the spelling errors? Einstien.

There goes a minute of my life I'll never get back.

Ah yes - another victim of the left wing spin machine. They don't need to be correct just persistent.

Hey, they are all crooked. You don't make it that far in politics without meeting questionable people. At least Clinton didn't quit, unlike the Palinator.

That's right, winer. Fox news always shows them as being Democrats, silly me.

Another in-depth deep thinking exercise by Rick.

"Another republican taken down in scandal?"
A smart man wouldn't even go there.

Palin's a quitter

Michael is dead

How about we return

To some real news instead

for only being President from January 21st
following a president that was the worst.
now that the republicans got their money,
they don't want to give up their "milk & honey"

Keep sending our jobs overseas, says the CEO's
the bottom line is all we knows.

She aspired, but could not take the heat for all her questionable actions. So she got out before she was another republican taken down by a scandal. It has nothing to do with being a liberal or conservative, it's called pulling up lame in the race.

The russians are mad at us,
Iran is putting up a fuss.
Palin could be republicans light,
Her plan to handle this fight:
Fish and wish; then spit and quit

Well, George has left office
into his hideout he has crashed
deflecting blame for the economy
that his administration trashed

Now govie quits her job
the pressure made her go
in hopes she can make more money
with the Sarah Palin reality show

your right 15, rhyming IS fun! When it's the truth.

And after all of Obama's deceits and lies,
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As the economy in america withers and dies.
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A women from alaska might be a better choice,
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At least she doesn't need a teleprompter for us to hear her voice.
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rhyming is fun!!