To reference another recent story... most seem to think there is no gang activity in the area... Well how the heck do you think these drugs are getting here? Duh!!!!

This is such a sad case and unfortunately it is happening in just about every community. I knew a few of these kids form the time they were pre-teen up to a few years ago when my son stopped hanging out with them. They came to my home every weekend and even then I knew they were headed for serious problems. I am an AODA counselor and talked to them on numerous occassions about where their drug use would bring them. Like all kids I am sure they thought the old lady doesn't know what she is talking about and it will never happen to me. There is an old saying that if you sober up a drunken horse thief you will just have a sober horse thief. Yes, these young adults need to be offered treatment for their addiction but they still need to be held accountable for their crimes. I know there is treatment offered in prison and that is where they need to be. Making excuses for their behavior, sympathy for their upbringing and rationalizations that this is what addicts do will not help these young adults get their lives together eventually. A brief jail sentence and release back into their old community will just result in momentary remorse then they will return to their old ways. Long term prison so when they are released they are old enough to make a better choice to stay away from using friends and old haunts is what is needed. Hearing about this broke my heart and I wish there was more I could have done but they just never listen. Garret and Zack if you read this know my thoughts and prayers are with you. There is still time to change the big picture. I love you both. Mom

grownwoman: I tried to find court dates for you, but it appears most of these people have not been charged yet or the charges do not appear in the Circuit Court Records for some reason. One interesting note, at least two of them have gathered new, unrelated charges, since this story was first published. Sad situation.

wow deegan looks like you need to relax a little bit, these people need to get help for their addiction and yes it is wrong for them to steal, but that does not mean that before they became addicts there was not a good person somewhere inside them, all their eyes show that they are lost souls and i pray they get some help as well as they do need to pay for their crimes so they can learn a lesson

What does you being American have to do with this??? Im just wondering. And again lets all remember that people,anyone, is innocent untile proven guilty!!! If anyone happens to know the outcome of the court date or if there even had been one yet, please enlighted the rest of us!

THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL PIECES OF CRAP AND SHOULD ALL BE CONVICTED!!! IF THEY HAVE A HERION HABIT, GET A JOB AND PAY FOR THERE HABITS!!! HELL YEAH I'M AMERICAN!!!! I WISH I COULD SWEAR ON THIS THING!!!!

Really ironic that Nicole being on the street is being mentioned. I saw her at the gas station yesaterday. I think she was with her mother.

Im pretty sure they are all free on the streets.....If not all the majority are. They are innocent until proven guilty after all and you cant get into see a judge that fast.

oh and apparently nicole is free on the streets i heard from the grapevine!!

worldlove...
It was Nicole's Mom arrested about a month ago wasn't it. I didn't even make the connection. How sad id that? I'm fighting to help my son while this Mother is destroying her daughter. Maybe upbringing does matter in this case.

that was totally part of my point wordlove you said it! i have known one of these people for a long time and to get stuff stolen from you for which started out as a crack habit is horrible ive experienced that first hand and personally some may say i am bitter i can agree to that to a certain point! but i can also say for alot of us as you did worldlove i am fed up why should people like that get away with stealing our hard earned possessions because they have a drug problem we didnt make them do the drugs they chose, why should the innocent have to suffer??? i think atleast 18ms jail 6ms in-patient rehabilitaion followed up wth mandatory counseling and 2 years probation and restituition for those of us who cannot get our stuff back! in my eyes and opinion that is fair to me

i do apologize to all that thought i was yelling! i didnt mean for it to come off that way! so sorry again!!

One more comment... After looking at the pics of these kids... what an empty look there is in their eyes. How sad, to be this young and look so lost.

Nikki, I was simply pointing out "blogging etiquette"... "CAPS" IS YELLING AT PEOPLE to make an angry point! See how offensive that can be?
If that is how you want to be read, fine... more power to ya. But don't be surprised if we assume you are REALLY angry and volitile. We may even make comments to try to diffuse you.
Enough of that silly issue...

Serenity... Thank you for your kind comments. At 50 years old, I think I've experienced enough of the drug culture / abusive behavior involving addiction / parental confusion (across many generations...) as to how to confront it with a child / how to handle a family member caught up in the culture of addiction...

I've always despised the coined phrase "tough love" but it basically becomes a reality when the family must "toss in the towel" with another member of the family. Be it a brother/son/daughter/parent... there is only so much we can put up with. When it gets to the point of enabling... we must put the brakes on, and let them fail, flounder and suffer the consequences of their behavior. Only then, will they truly hit bottom. If they don't kill themselves, they WILL rehabilitate. This is the time when the addict really WANTS to make a change in their life. We can't MAKE them better, they have to want to change. They MUST do it on their own.

These kids can break the cycle. But they have to WANT to succeed. If they just "play the system" they will fail.

My prayers are with these young adults. I love our 4 kids and thank God they have somehow NOT succumbed to the peer pressures of those around them.

very well said world love. I feel horrible for these people. I don't know about if trash is the right or wrong word because it is really easy to say someone who has messed up and does not care is just trash but at the same time there is something that made them try this drug in the first place and with having an addictive personality that does not help, and for the people who want to be there for them i know that is hard to being there and then being screwed over is never an easy thing it makes you want to give up because really these people have to want to change their lives for it to ever be effective and i hope for their families sake they do that and i sure hope if they have kids they will get it together. may god watch over all of you and may you decide to get out of this life style that has sucked you under

most everyone on here make good points from both sides but I will say this yes addiction IS a terrible thing and I hope the best for all who fall in it but it's hard NOT to be bitter or mad about people using this drug, I'm a little bitter, helping people over and over and over again just to get stolen and lied to every time you try to help, how many times do you get cheated by people like this till you say "enough"? At this point it seems like the more you care and help the more people use, take advantage, and steal from you. How is anyone gonna feel? I'll most likely be there if these people decide to change and show it and I could think of them differently then but how do you have patience for people who do the same thing over and over again for years on end? So just because someone calls these people trash ( although harsh) doesn't mean they are judging maybe they're just fed up with the way people are to others and how these addicts treat others including family. Idk who said it but if you know you have a addictive personality all the more reason NOT to try these drugs and I do feel bad for the parents who go through this unless your nicoles mom who encouraged the behavior and involved herself with it as well.

NIKKI -
The really people assume you are angry is because on the normal here people write in small case and then when upset in large case. and some people make take offense since you do get upset at any little thing people say may be a little hard to convince people that you are not angry anymore. i am glad that you have made a good life for yourself despite some events in your life, if you can grow stronger from the experience that is always a good thing. may you have success in whatever you choose to do and may you never have to be angry at life again in your future

GMAOF3- THIS IS NOT ME YELLING ITS ME MAKING SURE THESE PEOPLE SEE WHAT I WROTE AND THEY CANT MISS IT!! LOL NO ANGER ISSUES HERE, QUITE CONTENT WITH MY LIFE, SEE THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE ASSUME THE KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE BY WHAT U WRITE! CAPS LOCK OR NO CAPS LOCK! RIDICULOUS IF U ASK ME

serenity- ive called my dad trash plenty of times so that is not an issue with me! you dont think these people wouldnt do stuff to put others at risk? and besides like someone else pointed out to me this forum is not about me its about these people who have issues NOT MINE!

people are suppose to be innocent before proven guilty, and i agree yes sometimes when the newspapers print the pictures it does just make the whole theory a lot harder to go by and if the suspects were at the scene of the crime that makes it harder too and if they were caught with the drugs that is hard to, guess we will all find out when it goes to court, either way i hope these young people get the help they need i feel for their parents, it is hard for them as well

I’ve said it before, I will say it today, and unfortunately I will have to say it again someday. This country was founded on the right of presumed innocence until proven guilty. While Mug Shot photos of arrested parties are available to the public, I believe publishing them in the newspaper provides no service to the community and leads readers to presume guilt, especially the use of unflattering mug shots on the Front Page. Would readers really feel the same way about the suspects if they published the high school senior photos of those arrested? Maybe some glamour shots? What really confuses me is the half page photo of farm buildings in the Milton Courier that were not even involved in the arrest. Are we informing the public or is it just selling papers? I would hope a local paper could hold itself to higher standards. As a local paper, it also shows up all over the country in retirement communities. What do readers in Arizona or Florida think of Milton? No better than Detroit? Did the paper publish the photo of the HS Senior who was arrested last week? if they publish one, they better publish them all, or someone is going to get a lawyer

you know, no parent wants to say their child is a horrible person, but they can say my child is a wonderful person but the actions they have chosen to do are not good, no one give birth to a child and watches them grow up thinking geez he will probably be a heroin addict when he grows up, we all have children with the intentions that they will be wonderful people when they grow up, and sometimes they do fall into the wrong crowd and they can't say no to peer pressure and they hit rock bottom or worse, but as a parent you still love your children just as they were when they were born.

Bownies..To Someone who has the knowledge...
Thank you...

Something everybody has to know...

Drug abuse has a lot to do with the personality of the drug abuser. People with addictive personalities, obviously, have a greater chance of becoming an addict.
Almost all these kids have been using drugs, smoking cigarettes, and selling drugs since I've known them. I've known two of them for about 5 years and they've always had an 'addictive' personality. They've smoked and experimented with all kinds of different drugs as long as i've known them.
This is crazy stuff but I'm glad they're at least off the streets and they're going to need a little more than just a rehab center - they need new friends and better influences as well as a something more to live for b/c these kids don't have much going for them!

how sad that all these people let this drug over take their lives and make these bad decisions. i hope on top of what they get for their punishment that they will also get help for their addiction. they are all so young and do have a chance to get their life together hopefully they will learn from. best of luck to all of you and the hard road you have to travel down in the near future

acs
I understand your point. SO many parents do defend the wrong their children have done and often look to place blame.
I, myself have never blamed anyone for my son's addiction. He knows right from wrong. He knew not to take that Oxycontin from his best friends Dad. But he made the choice and now struggles with his decision everyday. But I do blame his addiction for his actions while he was using. He would NOT have done criminal acts had he not been using. He is a good person that did bad things. I have called the police on my son countless times for the stolen property I had found. When he used I called the police. When I found out he had stolen prescription drugs from homes he was invited into, I called the police. He had to be held accountable. He thanks me to day. I'm sorry you're the target of blame. For some people they place blame to make the pain easier.

NIKKI
These kids stole for drug money and your father has driven drunk putting countless lives at risk..Yet you still call them trash? Your father also? You have lived the life and it sounds like you are very bitter. I wasn't referring to education when I said you were uneducated. People live through addiction and alcoholism and are still uneducated. It's very sad that you will pass judgement on someone that lives next door to you. You shouldn't throw stones at glass houses. I'm glad you are going to school to be a firefighter/paramedic. I hope you can keep your true feelings about addicts away from work, who knows, you may have to safe the life of a piece of trash someday. I also don't mean to offend you. You are entiltled to your opinion. But so am I.

no offense to anyone...but my ex husband attempted murder on me and a friend, then took his own life. His mommy still thinks he is the greatest thing in the world. Infact, his mom tried to blame me for his actions! Another example of, what parent dont think their children arent great kids?

Whoa NIKKI... Can we say "anger issues? Chill.... Using the CAPS key to respond is yelling at us, in case you hadn't heard. No one enjoys being yelled at.

These are just blogs for people's opinions... it does NOT define who we are. Try smiling while you're responding... it might help.

Have a nice day.

SOME PEOPLE REALLY HAVE ALOT OF NERVE CALLING OTHERS UNEDUCATED! WHEN U DONT EVEN KNOW THE HALF OF IT!!! I COULD CARE LESS TO FIGHT WITH ANYONE ON HERE I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION AS IS EVERYONE ELSE!! AND I UNDERSTAND JUST BC THESE PEOPLE HADNT GOTTEN THEIR "FIX" FOR THE DAY DOESNT MEAN THEY WERE SOBER ADDICTIONS DRIVE PEOPLE TO DO THINGS THEY WOULDNT NORMALLY DO IF THEY WERE SOBER BUT WHEN U GET UR CAR BROKEN INTO BY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE ON HERE AND U KNOW THE ROAD THEYVE BEEN TRAVELING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, U LEARN WHO "YOU THINK" IS TRASH AND WHO ISNT!! SO FOR ALL I CARE STATE YOUR OPINIONS IT DOESNT MATTER TO ME WHAT YOU ALL THINK OF ME OR MY OPINIONS YOU ARE TELLING ME TO NOT BE SO JUDGMENTAL WHEN ALL OF U ARE DOING THE SAME TO ME!! POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK ID SAY??!!

sarahb- scroll down and you will see what i am referring too, SERENITY- AS FAR AS U CALLING ME UNEDUCATED JUST TO JUSTIFY THAT COMMENT I AM GOING TO COLLEGE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC THANKS, AND I AM NOT CALLING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OR ADDICTS PERSAY "TRASH" JUST A FEW OF THESE I KNOW ON A PERSONAL LEVEL I TOO UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF ADDICTION NOT HEROIN BUT ALCOHOL MY FATHER IS A FULL BLOWN ALCOHOLIC SO I SEE IT EVERYDAY! SO MAYBE BEFORE YOU READ SOMEONES COMMENT RETHINK HOW THEY ARE PUTTING IT BC IT MIGHT NOT BE CONSIDERED NASTY OR SARCASTIC LIKE YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT!!
AND LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN: I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION I HAVENT JUMPED DOWN ANYONE ELSES THROAT FOR THEIR OPINIONS UNTIL ALL OF YOU STARTED ON ME SO UNLESS UR A HEMMROID STAY OFF MY A** PLEASE!!

Nikkiz242001 I would like to say that my son is a recoverng Heroin addict. My son is not trash. My son is wonderful and caring. He is funny and handsome. He is intelligent and artistic. He holds the door for the elderly and shovels sidewalks for free to help the needy. He is loved dearly by his family. He is also an addict. I'm sure he has lied and stolen for his addiction. But he is not trash. He is an addict. Where addiction causes these people to do things they would NOT normally do. The addiction doesn't make the crimes justified. They will face their consequences. I really wish members that comment would take 5 minutes and educate themselves about addiction. If you were educated about addiction NIKKI you wouldn't have used the word "sober" referring to these kids. You need to understand that these people are NOT sober just because they haven't used for today. Thats like saying an alcoholic isn't an alcoholic because he didn't drink today. As far as the addicts that have died from addiction. You're right Nikki none shown in these pictures have died but they play russian roulet everyday.. There's quite a few kids from the area that have died from Heroin overdose. Personally, I could never look at a parent and tell them their son or daughter was trash because addiction overpowered their lives. How can you be so judgmental? You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. It just offends me, the mother of an addict, that you are so uneducated and pass such harsh opinion. I'm sure you have done things you are not proud of. I know I have. Who are you to judge?

Nikkiz242001: I know I can be forgetful, but I have no idea why you put my name in your last comment here.

SARAHB- I AM NOT SLANDERING THE DEAD, ATLEAST NONE OF THEM ARE DEAD YET BUT IF THEY KEEP UP IN THEIR WAYS ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME! AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE UNDERSTATING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRASH!!

the kids as far as i know have all been removed by dfcs and grownwoman i agree to the treatment part as well all i am saying is that they all knew what they were doing is wrong and i understand that the power of addiciton is strong but they were thinking of ways to get the money for their high when they were sober so they knew they were commiting illegal acts!

worldlove

Maybe we could chat through e-mail. I'd love to help you and share the information with you about my son. I will tell you that he had to leave the state of WI to get help. Despite what people think...WI has nothing to help these people. Trust me.. Been threw it with my son.

Serenity_0381@yahoo.com

gmaof3 You have an educated and impressive way with words. You're right, upbringing has NOTHING to do with the road of addiction. I know Cops, Dr's, City Councilman kids, poverty kids that are fighting this battle or have lost the battle of addiction. God Bless your girls. I hope your brother will continue his recovery. My son is drug-free 6 months and fighting everyday. I am so happy to hear you didn't become victim to Oxycontin. So So many have.

I don't have to "know the perps" (or the families) to have a valid opinion. I live in this community. Just the FACT that we have children that can even get their hands on this stuff is sickening. My daughters graduated in 1999 & 2001... there were drugs available back then, too....

I don't know how anyone here can say a child has a good upbringing... what IS that? Parents with a degree, or 6 figure incomes, or new cars in the garage? What? And addicts for children? What ever it is, it doesn't seem to make a difference, from what I read.

These kids made bad choices... with choices come the consequences of their actions. If they can be rehabilitated, good for them. I know what I'm talking about here. My brother is an addict and thief. He's been at it for 25 years. In and out of treatment and is supposedly clean "right now". He'll probably lapse again... it's been a futile attempt to help him.

But back to this situation... I just want them removed from MY community. If they can plea bargain their way to keep from going to prison by turning in the BIG FISH, I'd be thrilled with that.

Of course, this is a never ending cycle of drugs... but somehow my daughters avoided it and many of you would say "they didn't have the perfect upbringing"... but they DID NOT make the choice to go down THIS road. So you tell me, how does their upbringing factor into it?

It is also MY OPINION that their children should be removed from the exposure to drugs. Let them be cared for by people without all this drama.

And as far as the comparison of Oxy and abuse. I had back surgery in May of 2000. For 6 months prior to the surgery, I was given Oxycontin for the pain. I have to say, had it not been for that drug, I might have done something scary. It was what kept me from severe depression from the intensity of the pain. I had to get off of it 4 weeks before surgery so morphine would control my post surgery pain. I didn't experience any withdrawal, just intense pain again until the surgery.

So I do not feel it is the drug manufacturers' fault that they produce strong pain medication. It is society's desire to self medicate - for whatever they are trying to avoid facing or dealing with...

ACTUALLY YOU WERE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE ARTICLE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ME AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IS HERE. I DIDNT SUGGEST LETTING THEM GO WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST I WAS SUGGESTING THAT TREATMENT ALSO BE PART OF THE PUNISHMENT.

WRONG AGAIN GROWN WOMAN! WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS AND ITS CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH WHICH IS WHAT THE GAZETTE PROVIDES ON THESE KINDS OF NEWS RELATED INCIDENTS, I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION AS ARE YOU AND MY OPINION IS THAT THEY ALL KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS WRONG AND THEY DID IT ANYWAYS THEY MADE THEIR BEDS LET THEM LAY IN THEM I BET YOU ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GOT BURGLARIZED BECAUSE OF THESE PEOPLES HABITS FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO!! KEEP THE TRASH OFF THE STREETS AND THAT DOESNT JUST GO FOR THESE PEOPLE BUT OTHERS AS WELL THAT ROCK COUNTY LETS OUT OF JAIL WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST IN EXCHANGE FOR INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE!

ummmm...did I ever once say that it wasn't true??? I dont think I did. My point, which was clearly made, was that they need treatment as well as anything else they get. I dont think any of my comments said that I was surprised that this happened and this is a place to comment on the article not make attacks on people so I think that you are the one that needs to grow up and stick to the subject of this forum.

Boy drugs make you do some stupid things. They made that Samantha Hunt girl hang out with a crowd that definately did not look like she did. Of course she could have been the queen of the trailer park and then it all makes sense.

serenity You are right the addiction level is the same, the way I was thinking was why would something of the same addict level be legal? I have someone close going through it right now so although Im not fully educated I am in fact educated. Kudos to your son there is nothing in this world I respect more then people getting away from there addiction whatever it is. I know I don't want my son to go through it, My main point is one time taking the pill doesn't cause an addiction. Sarah b: thank you! oh and serenity what made your son decide to kick the habit did you do something or did he decide all by himself? I have no idea how to help anymore I tried EVERYTHING I know how. having them take responsibility for their actions was the closest thing to help because the excuses we made did nothing but made it MUCH worse but they went back on it after a while so?

acs....who did they hurt. They didnt get ina car and kill soemone. Stealing is not right and Im not saying it is but to compare it to hurting other physically is just way out there. They do need treatment IN ADDITION to paying for the crime. Im not syaing let them off, just get them help too.

acs..
The answer to you question. I believe that people that injure others should pay for their crimes. However..alcoholics and addicts have a disease. They need treatment to rehabilitate themselves. Recovery is a process. Jail offers the consequence without the rehabilitation. It sounds crazy to say but I don't think stealing is "injury to others" in comparison to a drunk driver that drives and kills a family, that is "injury to others"....I still believe that they both need rehabilitation. They both have consequences to face. I think I said that right.
That question is hard for me to answer.

Ok World love.
Yes my son made bad choices and pays everyday with the demon of addiction. But where you don't know what you're talking about is when you say he went to using something harder than Oxycontin. You areally are an uneducated mouth. Oxycontin is one in the same with Heroin. Oxycontin cost a dollar a milligram on the street and heroin has the same effect and cost about 10 dollars a bag. The makers of Oxycontin have been sued for 637 million dollars for falsifying information about the drug and it's addictive tendencies. Oxycontin gives the same high as Heroin. Do some research. It doesn't matter if the bad choice was oxycontin or heroin. He was on the path to Opiate addiction regardless....My son has 6 months drug-free and still fight addiction everyday and always will. I hope you have never and do never live this nightmare.

CRAP!! This is down the way from us!! I remember when Krystal had that horse out in that little bity pen and I went to buy it and she never showed up when we turned up with our kids to pay for her and take her home..She sold her out from under us....she was only 14 then.Now she is just GROSS!! And whats up with the eye????

worldlove: You're right. I misread your post and I apologize.

I admitted I don't know EVERYTHING read my quote "one thing I DON'T UNDERSTAND" does that mean I know everything?

acs: I am going to give my uninvited answers to your questions posted to grownwoman. First, drug users not committing other crimes need treatment and not jail. If a drug user commits other crimes such as theft, forgery, etc., than they need jail (possibly a deferred sentence depending on the criminal history) and treatment. Not all drug users commit crimes other than the use of the drug. You may scuff at this statement, but I can give you many examples of it being the truth. Not all drug users take from others to afford their drugs. Impaired drivers also need treatment but also must serve their sentence. Not everyone arrested for drunken driving is addicted to alcohol. The majority of the first-time offenders fit the criteria for "abuse" and not "dependency". Those with substance use disorders must be held accountable for their criminal actions if those actions go beyond the use of the drug. However, it does absolutely no good to just jail those people without offering them treatment. I am a nationally certified addictions registered nurse and also hold a master's degree in social work (with a concentration in substance use disorders/mental health). I have worked with hundreds of people with substance use disorders. Treatment does work. My question to you is this: Is there a difference between someone addicted to prescription drugs vs. a street drug such as heroin?

grownwoman....
so you think that people that break the law by using illegal drugs need treatment instead of jailtime?
Just curious on your opinion, people that are arrested for drunk driving multiple times that injure others....jail time or treatment?

Worldlove: Here is your quote ... "One thing I don't understand is how can you be in jail for so long and actually kick the habit IN there get out and start using again? duhh." If you really want to get the facts, then you need to do a little reading on the difference between PHYSICAL DEPENDENCY and ADDICTION. Google it and you may learn that you don't know as much as you think you do.

acs.....i have never been in the jail...EVER and I know that their are drugs in there. It is actually easier to find drugs in jail then out. I dont know personaly but I do know some people who do know personally. What they need is treatment not jail time

ah serenity....you missed the whole point of my post. I was making the point that we all have choices in life. And whatever choice we make, we take responsibility and deal with the consequence.
I was trying to say that when kids are in school, they learn about drug issues. How you got what you did out of that, is beyond me.
I never said only kids with problems do drugs. So i guess my worthless opinion is still ok huh? Try reading what people write and not put words into stories that you want to read.
I personally have never been to jail or prison or associate with anyone that has talked of it. So if there is drugs there, i will have to take your word because you must know...somehow. More power to ya. i guess.

well I DO know some of these people personally and I also DO have a clue on what I am talking about and I promise you your son making 1 bad choice by taking that oxy didn't make him addicted it was ATLEAST a couple of bad choices of taking the oxys that made him become addicted and when he knew it was a hell of an addiction he went to something that's even harder to get off of?.... there's the worst bad choice he made. God help him NOW but it was more than 1 bad decision. I however do agree that it isn't just kids from broken homes who have these problems and some people who are doing it, are people you wouldn't have thought would. But again if people don't take responsibility for their actions no one will learn. You do something wrong learn from it but I promise people making bunches of excuses for them will do nothing but make them think they're NOT wrong and have nothing to change. Don't crucify them but don't baby them either. One thing I don't understand is how can you be in jail for so long and actually kick the habit IN there get out and start using again? duhh

Oh and ACS... You must be one if those sheltered people. I mean "throw them in jail with a drug free mind"? Did you seriously say that. There is HEROIN in the jails.. There is drugs in the jails and the prisons..

ACS you must be ignorant to think that only kids that have problems or quit school or whatever are the targets of addiction. Yes they teach drug awarness and they also teach abstinence and look at the teen pregnancy rate. I also have kids in High School and if your daughter forgot to tell you. DRUGS ARE A PROBLEM IN ALL THE SCHOOLS. My son is 20 and has been battling opiate addiction for a few years. My son was an honor roll student, played football, has metals on a letter jacket and was raised in a stable home. He was at a party and his best friends DAD gave him Oxycontin. Yes he could have said No but a bad choice has my son fighting for his life against Heroin. Had friends of the same up bringing. Now he can names about 200 kids that attend or attended Milton, Craig and Parker that are using Oxycontin and/or heroin. So parents think again. These kids range in age from 14 to 25. I happen to know that these kids are from good, stable homes. Business owners kids and Dr kids. People should keep their worthless opinions when they , like you, haven't a clue what you are talking about.

If you dont really know what happened and dont know the people...and going to high school with them is not knowing them..then you need to stop talking...period!!!!! So the moral of the story is...mind your own!

just say no to drugs it s not worth the troubles

toungue twister- seven sorry saps steal stereos to smoke and do smack,how stupid,then seven sorry saps get stopped with stolen goods and get rounded up saturday and sunday for stunts for smoke and smack now the seven sit in cells how stupid!

(hey my lisp is gone) ha ha ....

"they made a bad choice!! If someone had sat there and said to then "In two years you will be in the middle of a serious addiction" do you honestly think they would have still done it?? "
What do i think? Hmm....i went to school 20 yrs ago and i know they taught us about drugs back then. I have a daughter in HS, and i know she was taught about drugs and thier consequences. Did these kids go to school? Honestly...if they didnt, wasnt that another bad choice they made? I wonder how many bad choices they have made. I do have a right to an opinion. You may see it as judging, i see it as my opinion. Each and every one of us are responsible for ourselves and the choices we make. They made thier choices, now they have to take some responsibility for thier lives and pay the consequences.
Throw em in jail for a few years, that should give them plenty of time to sit and think drug free about choices and consequences.

O geez, if these were all drunk drivers....the majority would be tearing them apart, not sticking up for them! Life is all about choices. This is not any different then an alcoholic that makes the choice to get behind the wheel. They too are controlled by an addiction. These young adults chose to break into peoples homes and steal from innocent people. They arent the victims, they hurt and violated others.

im not sying they didnt know, I was saying that it wasnt like their goal to be an addict. And Im sure none of them could have guessed that it would be as bad as it was. They know its bad to do drugs but sometimes it takes more then that to prevent or stop someone from doing them.

Teamwork, Teamwork, that's what it takes, Teamwork.

PLEASE... if Samantha couyld give puppy eyes she might be felt sorry for... NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

why are they all CROSSEYED?

grown woman: do you use heroin? if not why? probably because you KNOW it's a serious addiction, they're not stupid I know a couple of them and they're actually smart they KNEW it was a serious addiction but they did it anyways not to mention I've told someone all there is to know about the drug to covert them away from it yet they still decided to do it so it's gotta be another reason then "they didn't know". that being said, I do feel bad for the addicts who are stuck and I can't imagine feeling obligated to such a horrible thing and feel I had to keep using but in order for this to change and for them to get better we can't make excuses for them.

I agree with serenity...the made a bad choice!! If someone had sat there and said to then "In two years you will be in the middle of a serious addiction" do you honestly think they would have still done it?? If you do then you have another thing to learn. None of us are perfect and therefor have no right to judge others. Even if your mistakes arnt this serious you still made them and have no right to judge other people fot theirs!!!

were we not taught in school heroin is bad and addictive? these people aren't stupid they know... I bet your dad didn't turn to heroin just because he was addicted to pills. If you don't take responsibility for your actions you'll never learn and if you make excuses for them they will think they are the victim. I know some people on heroin and I helped as much as I could, sadly didn't work they only change and stop doing it if THEY want to, so people can point fingers for the reasons why people are using such a rediculous drug but it comes down to free will. half the people who had the pill addiction before the heroin addiction didn't get hurt and NEED those pills they chose to take them to get high. As I feel for the one's who actually became addicted to pills because of physical pain such as your father, and some of them turn to heroin but ALOT of them know they will go in a down ward spiral if they do and CHOOSE not to.

Do they teach proper grammar in school anymore?

SO right so right... and I guarantee you these people didn't set out to get addicted. And again so right, their children ARE the victims of addiction and I feel for the children because addiction is a horrible world to experience whether it be the addict or the family of an addict. But I PROMISE you NO ONE sets out to be addicted to drugs. A wrong choice is what got these people into the world of addiction. My father is an upstanding man and was being prescribed 1200 vicodin and percocet a month for his back pain....the doctors were trying to throw prescriptions for Oxycontin at him.. The dentist tried to give me 300 Oxycontin for having teeth work done...You blame the addicts alone? Come on? My father recently underwent surgery for his back pain AND withdrawals from opiates....He was told he was addicted to opiates by the same doctors that prescribed them. Most heroin addicts in the surrounding area started with taking Oxycontin and went onto heroin. We don't know the stories behind each addict. I will not be the one to judge and you shouldn't either. I sure don't walk on water...DO you? again, I pray for their well being and their families espically their children...

Krystal and Zach Also have a child together along with Garrett...They also chose to be selfish and put themselves first instede of their children.. I guess there is just some people who shouldnt be allowed to breed!!

everyones so quick to come to nicoles defense yes heroin is an addiction but who chose it? no one put a gun to her head and made her GET addicted and instead of thinking of her kids she thought of herself. the kids are the victim not the addicts. I don't know anyone who can argue that.

excellent point serenity. this is 21st century reefer madness. this is a crime to support a heroin addiction, the first line says ' heroin or marijuana habits' and the third line says ' Investigators have connected the crimes to heroin use'. so why does ted sullivan feel it ok to take the liberty to add marijuana habit as well?? cuz pot is illegal so he can safely make this claim. was there alcohol in the fridge?? maybe it was to support a 'heroin or marijuana or alcohol habit'. 21st century reefer madness.

And by the way...people do not commit robberies to support a marijuana habit....People do not have a Heroin habit.. Heroin is an addiction..A physical addiction. Looks to me like alot of people need to do some research. But why? We all think it could neber be me, right?

I just can't believe these comments as I read them. You people are actually arguing back and forth about the house that was busted and about Nicole Titus. Yes she was busted very recently. So was Susan Titus so was Kenny Miller so was Brad O'Brien so was Yolanda Moseley and so on.....Who cares about the house that was raided. Care about the fact that heroin is here..In our communities and is here in a powerful way. The police have been doing what they have to .. Busting the dealers and the addicts. It's the court that is failing. Slaps on the wrist, signature bonds and reduced charges, plea bargains and dismissed charges. I'm glad they busted this house and these people. Hopefully they can begin to bust the big dealers and not just the addicts. They were stealing to buy the drugs. Doesn't make it right but with the power of addiction these addicts will do anything to avoid withdrawals. The paper said that it seems heroin is making a comeback. Well I have to say WAKEUP! I cannot believe the Captain would say such a hidious thing. It is much cheaper than the Oxycontin these kids probably once were using. They are being held captive in their own bodies by the force of addiction. Someone mentioned lack of discipline? What a joke. That shows the ignorance of this community. Addiction holds no prejudism. It doesn't care who you are or who your parents are or where you were raised. Or how you were or weren't disciplined. People need to wake up to the fact that you may have an addict in your family right under your nose. I did. My son is 20 and has been battling opiate addiction for a few years. My son was an honor roll student, played football, has metals on a letter jacket and was raised in a stable home. Had friends of the same up bringing. Now he can names about 200 kids that attend or attended Milton, Craig and Parker that are using Oxycontin and/or heroin. So parents think again. These kids range in age from 14 to 25. I may know your childs name before you even realize what your child is doing. Scary huh? If you look at the pictures of these kids they all look empty. The dark circles under their eyes, the pain in their faces. They need help and where to get it? Jail? Another joke. Rock County. Another joke. What drug court? Another joke. I was told by the court about my son that they do not like to put Heroin addicts into drug court because their recovery success rate is so low that it makes the statistis of the program look bad. I wonder if they have ever thought that the way they handle the cases is what makes the success rate so low. Bottom line is....Heroin is here. People need to wake up and become educated. I hope and pray these young people get the treatment they need along with the consequences of the crimes committed. The Rock County DA's office needs to make a statement. No more pleas, no more signature bonds, NO MORE. Another joke.......

Let's just say the apple did not fall far from the tree in 2 of these young people's case.

i do know nicole and have been to the property prettyin pink although it has been awhile since i was there....you arnt saying anything about the people you are attacking nicole and its wrong and yes i will stick up for her because that is what she needs right now...someone on her side with the hopetha she will get better. thanks to all who stuck up for me!

ok prettyinonik just bacause i stick up for someone that is going through something doesnt mean im involved. I didnt say that i knew anything i just dont think its right that you are attacking someone that you really dont know. Have some respect. This isnt a reality show on MTV made for you to be entertained, it is someones life and you have no right to talk about anyone in that way.

Well, prettynpink , at least you admitted to having something personal against some of the accused. Thank you for clearing that up. Ironic since you were the once who said

"wow grownwoman your awful defending for nicole! Sounds like your related to her or something or maybe YOU had something to do with everything as well...hmm sounds a little suspicious to me! I dont know why you would even want to defend someone so much as dumb and ridiculous as they/she is! You just make yourself look even stupider!! Seriously..Its just foolish."

Pot calling the kettle black? Anyways if what you say is true, it sounds like they havent been supported from the get-go, and maybe for the single reason that it doesn't sound as if they've been given much of a chance, just a label since they were younger( from what Ive read the parents are accused of not disciplining a few of these individuals?) they deserve better. Rehabilitation, not spiteful retaliation.
Deweeze, there may be some validity in your statement, im not going to say there might not be. But it sounds like a classic case of small town gossip and finger pointing. Someone always has to be low man on the totem pole, and now some are just happy that they can band together and bask in how "right" you've all been all along? How childish. If these attitudes is all they've ever recieved, especially the youngens by default of their parents past, then I am truly sorry for them.
John doe I'm agreeing with you on your statement- referring to looking closer and being surprised at what they(law enforcement) might find-Is this just some sort of biased projection or valid conclusion? And if it is valid, get off the forum and share your concrete evidence with the authorities!(pretty and deweeze)
And a drug bust doesn't condemn a house prettyinpink. It might fit nicely into your rant, but it takes more than selling drugs from someones house for it to be condemned from occupancy.
lol!! I just read the next post and JohnDoe pretty much just said what I just wrote, but I'm not going to erase it, I'm going to leave it because it holds water.

O! And Pretty in pink- thanks in advance for the riveting news story that I'll be waiting to read this weekend, with a headline to the effect of
"Local pastures raided, excrement seized, law brought down on holstein's manure manufacturing ring "
Rofl

I'll have to see what I can do..THANKS!

In stead of just "suggesting" on a blog...I've found that they need to be lead by the hand...you may want to consider that if you expect to see results.

I Suggest they do some investigating on the cow pastures..they may be very surprised on what they find out there!!!

And, just curious, but how does a drug bust preclude inhabitation of a house?

Soooo...who dropped the ball on follow up?
The Sheriff's department?

Actually YES... Some of us did bother reporting it and that would be why the one house on the land is not able to be lived in for the fact that they did a drug bust in there a few years ago!!

And slow down...you' not in Kentucky anymore..

Same goes for you pretty....

deweeze... if it is as you say.."it really does not surprise us at all. If they dig a little deeper officals may be surprised what else they may find."

Your' statement sounds like you may have some additional information. Or is it just unsubstantiated conjecture?

If in fact you have real info...did you report it?

I agree with both Fred and deweeze!! Some of you that dont "know" these people or who have encounters with them have NO IDEA.. you all think that those of us who are so critical and rude about it all are selfish but you are the ones who have no idea and have never met the family, went to school with them, or better yet BEEN ON THE PROPERTY, or have yet even seen it..so MAYBE all of you who are against our HONEST comments on what should be done and what should happen to them should see it from what others have...face to face with it all...THEN YOULL UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM..! THEN YOU MAY REALIZE WE ARNT STUPID..RUDE PEOPLE ..YOULL HAVE IT ALL FIRST HAND AND BE ABLE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT OTHERS HAVE KNOWN TO BE TRUE FOR YEARS!

Titus is only 24? She looks twice that. Wow.

Lock 'em up and throw away the key.

Seems to me that those of us that live in the neighborhood now have proof that the rumors that have floated around for years about this residence are true and it really does not surprise us at all. If they dig a little deeper officals may be surprised what else they may find.

Thank you, freeradical. You are right on target there.

nikkiz242001: What happened to your belief of "if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all"?

Grownwoman is right-referring to prettyinpink-where do you get off talking trash and slamming?Sounds like you have a personal bone to pick. I hope you are more supportive of people you know than people you don't. It is you who are making yourself look/sound stupid. I can't believe the posts I see regarding all of this, everyone has such a spiteful,hateful attitude about something they only know as far as what they've read and what they want to think. It pains me to see the attitudes of all these posts on the heroin related crimes so generalized.Qquickly dismissed as an issueof taking these people, locking them up and throwing away the key. No second chances, no rehabilitation. What is with some of you people? The attitudes and lack of positive action and thoughts disgust me more than the crimes commited. What happened to lending a helping hand, getting people back on the right track? I don't understand the logic for treating these people with the same tone as cop killers and molesters!

PrettyINpink888: I think grownwoman has a better grasp on reality than you. Why are you so suspicious of her harmless comment?

wow grownwoman your awful defending for nicole! Sounds like your related to her or something or maybe YOU had something to do with everything as well...hmm sounds a little suspicious to me! I dont know why you would even want to defend someone so much as dumb and ridiculous as they/she is! You just make yourself look even stupider!! Seriously..Its just foolish.

who are any of you to say something like nicole set someone up??? You dont really know what happened so for you to make a comment like that is so rude...some people are just small minded I guess

yeah it is disturbing!! heroin is getting really bad and really common in janesville unfortunatly!!

This is just simply DISGUSTING and DISTURBING!!! Look at those people... how sick!! Pretty sad to see some people you went to school with look like this and ruin their lives!!

that is just ridiculous i used to go to school with nicole and if i recall right and i know i am right, she just got busted for heroin not more than 2 mths ago!!! WHAT IS SHE DOING ON THE STREETS??? if you ask me i think she set these people up which i am glad more trash off the streets as far as i am concerned!!