Girl Scouts selling cookies to raise dough

By SHELLY BIRKELO ( Contact )   Saturday, Jan. 24, 2009
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Daisy Girl Scouts Angelika Dobson, left, and Hannah Loertscher, both 6, head off to canvas their neighborhood after selling Girl Scout cookies to Kathy Gunderson.

Daisy Girl Scouts Angelika Dobson, left, and Hannah Loertscher, both 6, head off to canvas their neighborhood after selling Girl Scout cookies to Kathy Gunderson.

Girl Scout cookie sales


-- Order taking: Now through Monday, Feb. 2.

-- Cookie delivery: First week of March.

-- Booth sales: Feb. 28 through March 31.

Call (608) 362-8922 or toll-free 1-800-362-3226 if you do not have a Girl Scout in your neighborhood.

Girl Scout cookie lineup

Girl Scout cookie lineup


-- Caramel deLites: Vanilla cookies drenched in caramel, sprinkled with toasted coconut and laced with cocoa stripes.

-- Peanut Butter Patties: Crispy vanilla cookies layered with real peanut butter and blanketed with a chocolate icing.

-- Shortbread: Buttery, light flavored cookies.

-- Thin Mints: Thin chocolate wafers dipped in a chocolate coating with peppermint.

-- Peanut Butter Sandwich: Smooth peanut butter sandwiched between crunchy oatmeal cookies.

-- Thanks-A-Lot: Shortbread cookies dipped in fudge and topped with an embossed thank-you message in one of five languages.

-- Lemonades: Slices of shortbread with a tangy lemon icing.

-- Reduced-fat Daisy Go Rounds: Crispy cinnamon flower-shaped cookies packaged in five single serve snack packs.

— Both are small, sweet and come in different shapes.

They are Daisy Girl Scouts and the Girl Scout cookies they get to sell for the first time this year.

Daisies are the youngest group of Girl Scouts made up of kindergarten and first-grade girls. In the past, the Girl Scouts of the USA thought the girls were too young to sell cookies, said Brooke Virgin, product sales director at the Badger Council based in Beloit.

But that changed after the organization underwent a major leadership transformation and first-graders, who used to be part of the Brownies, became Daisies, she said.

Daisies were added into the product-sales mix to give them an opportunity to learn skills such as building courage, confidence and character, Virgin said.

The change also created a new partnership between the girls and their leaders, allowing them to make troop decisions together, she said.

"National wants all councils to focus on the leadership experience and not the quantity of sales," Virgin said.

That's a good thing because it will help the girls learn more quickly about their leadership roles, said Kristina Dobson, leader of Janesville Troop 440.

The decision to allow Daisies to sell Girl Scout cookies wasn't made because local council cookie sales were down, Virgin said.

But giving 674 Daisies the opportunity to sell certainly could help boost cookie sales that have been down the past three years, she said.

During 2006, 24,033 cases—12 boxes in each case—were sold. In 2007 and 2008, a total of 2,301 fewer cases were sold than in 2006, Virgin said.

A steady decline in membership those years played a factor in the loss of sales, she said. The council was down about 319 girls last year and 119 the year before.

"We honestly think it's just a lot of girls and parents leading busy lives and girls having so many other choices like 4-H, sports, band, music and gymnastics," Virgin said.

On average, each Girl Scout sells 125 boxes of cookies, she said.

"Add in that 674, and it can definitely help," Virgin said.

There also are other benefits to Daisies selling cookies, Dobson said.

They will get to experience principles of the Girl Scout Promise and the Girl Scout Law, which include doing their best while being honest, fair, considerate and courageous plus respectful and responsible, she said.

The troop also gets to keep 55 cents for every box of cookies sold in addition to individual incentives. Some of the profits will be used for troop activities and community projects, Dobson said.

Badger Council also benefits, Virgin said.

Of the $3.50 cost of each box of cookies, $1.75 goes back the council to fund programs, she said.

"All the girls are excited," Dobson said. "That's all they talk about at lunch time."

GIRL SCOUT COOKIE TRIVIA

-- Juliette Gordon Low initiated the cookie sale as a way for Girl Scouts to be self-reliant and to fund their own activities.

-- In the 1920s and '30s, Girl Scouts in different parts of the country baked their own simple sugar cookies and sold them to raise money for their activities.

-- The first documented councilwide sale of commercially baked cookies took place in Philadelphia in 1934.

-- The first national Girl Scout cookie sale was held in 1936.

-- Over the years, cookie varieties have come and gone in response to changing consumer tastes. However, the only modification to shortbread has been a "face lift" in 1979, when the cookie's traditional Girl Scout service mark was replaced by a more contemporary service mark.

-- Since the 1930s, a number of companies have baked Girl Scout cookies. Today there are two Girl Scout cookie suppliers. The Badger Council uses ABC Cookie Co., which has been an officially licensed Girl Scout cookie baker for 70 years.

-- A sample grocery list for ABC Cookie Co. includes 18 million pounds of flour, 12 million pounds of sugar, 1.2 million pounds of peanuts and 1.3 million pounds of coconut.

-- ABC does not use any artificial preservatives in its Girl Scout cookies.

-- Thin Mints are the top-selling Girl Scout cookie in America, accounting for more than 25 percent of all Girl Scout cookies sold.

-- Caramel deLites are the second best-selling Girl Scout cookie and ranks in the top five of the cookies sold in the United States each year.

-- Each season, Girl Scouts sell almost 200 million packages of Girl Scout cookies.

-- The Thanks-A-Lot cookies speak five different languages. A language key is printed on the overwrap inside each box.

-- Imitated but never duplicated, Peanut Butter Patties have been in the Badger Council Girl Scout cookie line for more than 30 years. They are the third best-selling Girl Scout cookie and among the top 10 best-selling cookies in America.

Source: Girl Scouts of Badger Council

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shutupandfish
Feb 5, 2009 at 9:14 a.m.
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I just bought my 25 boxes for the year.

gazettefan
Feb 1, 2009 at 7:07 a.m.
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rocket:

hannah didn't say anything to provoke your insulting post. Shame on you!!!

beeferer
Jan 28, 2009 at 9:24 a.m.
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Here is a reply from eBay regarding the sale of GS Cookies on eBay:
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Thank you for writing eBay in regard to our policy regarding the sale of
Girl Scout cookies.

The policy you refer to sounds like a policy from the Girl Scouts of
America, however, they have not asked us to not allow people to sell
cookies on our site. That is why we still allow it.

Thank you for using eBay for your online trading needs.

Sincerely,
Carrie G.

eBay Customer Support

beeferer
Jan 27, 2009 at 1:11 p.m.
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[pulling out hair] Spell Check! AAAARRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beeferer
Jan 27, 2009 at 8:03 a.m.
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Girl Scouts have a bevy of activities to keep them busy. Don't believe me? Just look at the pictures on the cookie boxes!

greengina8
Jan 26, 2009 at 7:02 p.m.
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I'm not bitter. I was a girl scout back in the day. I remember our troop spending more time earning activity badges than selling cookies, but you never hear about the girls with the sash full of badges anymore, just the ones who sell the most cookies.

JimPI
Jan 26, 2009 at 5:06 p.m.
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I think greengina has a valid question. It seems the only time you hear about Girl Scouts is during cookie sale season. I'm sure they do many wonderful things, both as learning experiences and as public services. But, the general public just doesn't hear about it. Ask anyone who wasn't a scout or doesn't have a daughter and they like as not can't name one thing the local troop has done outside of cookie sales.

Of course, most couldn't probably name anything the local boy scout troop has done either.

latinmami2
Jan 26, 2009 at 5:06 p.m.
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it is soooo nice for our girl scout troops that the parents have a forum to come on and bash each other for way they sell their cookies what would we as parents do without the technology to do so

momof5
Jan 26, 2009 at 4:45 p.m.
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greengina: did you want them to sell used clothing instead? I know I know. How about recylcing bins? Maybe etown shared their sour patch kids with you today...you certainly are bitter.

whybesad
Jan 26, 2009 at 3:29 p.m.
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I get 10-12 boxes annually. Freeze the thin mints. You can't beat them.

latinmami2
Jan 26, 2009 at 3:20 p.m.
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the carmel delights are the best, and since they only come around once a year i make sure i get 4 boxes, 3 are for me and 1 for the family lol just kidding i share them all

JimPI
Jan 26, 2009 at 3:08 p.m.
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I love the cookies but just can't stomach (no pun intended) paying $3.50 a box for them anymore. I understand that the purchase of the cookies supports the mission but I just can't afford to pay that much for a dozen cookies that aren't much bigger than a half dollar. I wonder what it is like to have the kind of disposable income to be able to afford $40 on Girl Scout cookies.

JCK
Jan 26, 2009 at 2:45 p.m.
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Girl Scout cookies. Love 'em, buy 8-10 boxes annually.

latinmami2
Jan 26, 2009 at 2:21 p.m.
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what i really think is that no matter what is said on these forums and this goes for every one of them that there is always going to be someone who thinks you are wrong and they are right and that is that. people have their own opinions but i will tell you what sharing them on a forum is the last place you should do it, i got an email from one of the posters from one of the other forums and they called my kids nasty names and myself and my husband. so i doubt that after this i will be on here much - i hope the girl scouts do well this year. i know i ordered my 4 boxes

ammfrm
Jan 26, 2009 at 9:17 a.m.
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Zoom- yes donating directly to a troop can give them more money. Being a troop sponser is wonderful and does benefit a troop in different ways than the sale. THe girls do benefit from the cookie sale BESIDES the profits. They learn a lot of skills during the sale and build leadership.

ammfrm
Jan 26, 2009 at 9:06 a.m.
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beeferer- National puts a stop to auctions for cookies as fast as they can- as well as Ebay. Ebay tries to work with the GS to stop sellers like that.

ammfrm
Jan 26, 2009 at 9:05 a.m.
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Further- they are not stating that a girl cannot contact family members/friends via email for orders.
But Ebay is a big culprit- you never know how old the cookies might be and you don't know who the actual seller is.
I am an adult gs and sold cookies as a girl and my daughter is also a gs (now in college). The sale provides so many learning tools and the face to face contact is one of them.

beeferer
Jan 26, 2009 at 9:05 a.m.
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What about all the GS cookies you can get on eBay?

ammfrm
Jan 26, 2009 at 9:01 a.m.
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Here is the reason GS cookies can not be sold via internet(this is directly from GSUSA website:
Q: Why can't Girl Scout Cookies be sold on the Internet?

A: Our existing National Girl Scout policy prohibits the sale of Girl Scout Cookies® or any other Girl Scout approved product on the Internet. The safety of our girls is always our chief concern. Girl Scout Cookie Activities are designed to be face-to-face learning experiences for girls. In an online setting, there is no guarantee that the seller is indeed a girl member of Girl Scouts. We have many ways for girls to explore and experience the benefits of science and technology and the Internet, including our Girls Go Tech initiative.

Zoom
Jan 26, 2009 at 8:58 a.m.
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The Girl Scout troop will have more money if you just give them money directly.

beeferer
Jan 26, 2009 at 8:35 a.m.
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...And the world would be a slower place...

beeferer
Jan 26, 2009 at 8:10 a.m.
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rocket21- Before you accuse me of buying cookies at Wal-Mart, have someone read these messages to you. I buy GS cookies every year. As I stated here, I believe this is a very worthwhile organization. I was only trying to make one point- That this is not the classified section of the paper. For a person trying to avoid paying for a service by abusing the system, that person is oblivious to or contemptuous of what is right or honorable. Geez rocketman, what's your problem?

beeferer
Jan 26, 2009 at 8:04 a.m.
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staceyt- Shelly Birkelo (author of the article) and Scott Angus (Gazette editor) both agreed that your post soliciting cookie sales was unscrupulous. Therefore it has been removed. Now do you get it? Oh, and good luck selling cookies. I sincerely hope, for the sake of the organization, that you do sell LOTS of cookies- the right way.

justsome1here
Jan 25, 2009 at 9:06 a.m.
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Girl Scouts of the USA is the world’s preeminent organization dedicated solely to girls—all girls—where, in an accepting and nurturing environment, girls build character and skills for success in the real world. In partnership with committed adult volunteers, girls develop qualities that will serve them all their lives, like leadership, strong values, social conscience, and conviction about their own potential and self-worth. Girl Scouts of the USA is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization.
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If you do not know what they do, I suggest you educate yourself at www.girlscouts.org.

beeferer
Jan 25, 2009 at 7:44 a.m.
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$.40 for a wafer-sized cookie? No way! I would never pay that much for a lousy little cookie when you can get Oreos for a much, much lower price- unless it's for a worthy cause.
Oh and well said doc0430.

rooster
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:06 p.m.
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ilike girl scout or daisy cookies, but now for three bucks you get about 6 ozs. it takes the fun out of eating them.

doc0430
Jan 24, 2009 at 8:44 p.m.
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Hey I'm looking to sell A 2004 GMC with low miles and looks just like new if your interested call me at..... Now do ya see the reason why this is A message board and not the CLASSIFIED ADDS? Some just can't or more likley refuse to get it, I use to buy Girl Scout cookies every year but none have even bothered to come door to door in my neighborhood in about 3 years now and I guess this might be the reason why! Some have suggested calling I say great if you want to train A future tele-marketer. If you truely want to help then get your kids out there (yup thats right turn off your computer and go outside there really is still A world after all) and take them door to door if you truely want to help that is...... I dread the thought of what todays youth is learning from some parents to run tomorrows country.

greengina8
Jan 24, 2009 at 7:28 p.m.
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Do they do anything other than sell cookies?

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 3:58 p.m.
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Use technology, by all means. But I don't think the Gazette wants to allow free advertising on a message board that they provide for discussions about different articles that they report on. They would love for you to do it the right way- by taking out an ad in their classified section which will then automatically be put in their classified section in their website. But hey, whatever you chose to do, I do hope you sell a lot of cookies for a very worthwhile organization.

mamap
Jan 24, 2009 at 3:06 p.m.
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Girl Scouts are allowed to sell door-to-door. But for the sake of safety, it is required that an adult accompany any girl from Daisies through Juniors when they are selling door-to-door.

THE8TRGURL
Jan 24, 2009 at 2:41 p.m.
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After looking closer to the photo with this article, I see that those girls are selling door to door. I could be wrong when I said that they weren't allowed to do so. It was my understanding that they were not at one time.

THE8TRGURL
Jan 24, 2009 at 2:38 p.m.
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I think the main reason that parents take the order sheets to work is because Girl Scouts are no longer allowed to sell cookies door to door. When I sold cookies, that was our main source of orders. With this not being an option, after the girls sell to their families they aren't left with many options. Therefore, parents take the sheets to work to help their daughter out. I don't think they are trying to do the work for them. Instead, they are just doing what they feel is right as a parent.

justsome1here
Jan 24, 2009 at 2:38 p.m.
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Not very long ago there was an article about a "free give-a-way" and if I recall the person of that used this forum to "drum" up business. I also believe her personal website was also given on this forum. If a troop leader wants to advertise where cookies can be bought on the internet it is no different than going on a local TV or radio station and doing so.

latinmami2
Jan 24, 2009 at 2:15 p.m.
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"Folks, I don't think staceyt or latinmami2 are reading any of our comments. If they were, you'd think they'd understand where we're coming from. I think they should ask a girl scout to explain it to them in terms that they might understand. I wish them luck selling their cookies for their kids, but more so I wish their kids luck in coping with society when they get older and the wake up call comes in and they find out that underhanded rule-breaking behavior doesn't work in the real world."

i do understand what you are saying and i believe i did say that i don't know what the rules of girl scouts are yet because my baby is only 1 but it is something i want her to get into, but i do not think that it is a bad idea for a parent to be aloud to use technology to help raise money for the troops, hey you never know with the way things change so fast maybe when my little girl is in the girl scouts maybe they will allow her to use technology with the help of myself to sell her cookies.

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 1:52 p.m.
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Sheesh! Spend your weekend trying to help people and they're too stubborn or bullheaded to give your side of the discussion any thought or consideration. You can't say we didn't try.

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 1:32 p.m.
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Folks, I don't think staceyt or latinmami2 are reading any of our comments. If they were, you'd think they'd understand where we're coming from. I think they should ask a girl scout to explain it to them in terms that they might understand. I wish them luck selling their cookies for their kids, but more so I wish their kids luck in coping with society when they get older and the wake up call comes in and they find out that underhanded rule-breaking behavior doesn't work in the real world.

latinmami2
Jan 24, 2009 at 1:20 p.m.
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well i don't know the rules for that because my little girl is not old enough for girl scouts yet but i don't think it is a bad idea at all, it is good especially in this day and age with all the technology seems like the perfect thing to do

mamap
Jan 24, 2009 at 12:48 p.m.
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latinmami2 - She shouldn't drum up business here because it's against the rules to do so on the internet. GS is trying to help girls be socially responsible leaders. It's not responsible to teach them that breaking the rules is okay if you think it will help your group more.

latinmami2
Jan 24, 2009 at 11:23 a.m.
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why is not a good idea for stacy to drum up business here you come on here to have people read your opinions why can't she come on here and try to raise some money for her troops, anyway that you can advertise for the good of anything that will help our children stay involved in good activities is great. if she even gets one email and someone spends $10.00 that is $10.00 that could help a child out and that is the best thing she could do for the day.

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 11:18 a.m.
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I don't condone "putting down" anyone for trying to help either- I gave stacyt a "good job" for trying. But using this forum to drum up business is NOT the way to do it.

Walker
Jan 24, 2009 at 11:11 a.m.
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Fundraising is sometimes a group effort.

latinmami2
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:56 a.m.
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i think if the child puts in effort to do most of the work selling the cookies and the parent helps out by bringing the sheet to work there is nothing at all wrong with that. i look forward to my co-workers bringing in the sheet because it is the only opportunity i get in the year to buy these cookies. it is not that big of a deal that you need to put down another mother for doing so or for helping out their troops

truth1
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:44 a.m.
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The decline in members may also be due to the loss of credibility the National organization has had with a lot of former supporters.

almeg
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:12 a.m.
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latinmami2-There is nothing wrong with helping your children. We help her with the sorting and delivering. We have a great time. But what does that teach her if we do all the selling for her? And who is arguing? It is called a discussion.

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:09 a.m.
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Staceyt- You said "it is not my gain! i am only helping my troop try to do the best they can". If you are doing the work, how are they doing the best they can??!?!? Bless you for "trying" to do good, but your actions are not having a positive effect on the kids. I know you mean well, but this is not the way to help your kids. Let them do it for the personal satisfaction they'll get out of it. This whole cookie sales program was set up for the girls. GSA- "Girl Scouts of America, not MSA- Mommy Scouts of America. Again, you get a "good job" for trying, but I'm afraid you get a "Bad Job" for using unscrupulous tactics.

mamap
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
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staceyt - As a leader, you should know that Girl Scouts are prohibited by GSUSA from direct cookie solicitation on the internet. That means as leaders, we can't do it either.

latinmami2
Jan 24, 2009 at 10:04 a.m.
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i would really like to know what it teaches our children when the moms are online arguing about who is selling the cookies properly. since when has it been a crime for a parent to help out their child. Bringing in forms to work has been going on since i was born 30 years ago, so all of you do it yourselfers need to get a clue. i think it is great if the parent and the child work together because then it is a family thing not just a child thing and not just a parent thing. it shows your child that a family can do things TOGETHER. the fact that all of you can find anything to argue about is amazing.

almeg
Jan 24, 2009 at 9:51 a.m.
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Then let the girls do it on their own. I agree with beeferer. My daughter is selling cookies too. But she had to call all the relatives herself. And she had a great time too!

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 9:49 a.m.
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clueless

staceyt
Jan 24, 2009 at 9:39 a.m.
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it is not my gain! i am only helping my troop try to do the best they can

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 9:15 a.m.
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staceyt- Shame on you for using this forum for your own gain. You are not following the principles that you so freely bestow on your troop. DON"T ABUSE THE SYSTEM. You remind me of a Seinfeld episode. My daughter did it the hard way and she is one self-confident teenager with very high morals. If you sell your girl's cookies for her, think about what she is learning- that this is something too big for her- let mommy take care of it. And then down the road when she is faced with bigger chores, don't worry. The cookies took care of themselves, why lift a finger or make an effort? I know you are only trying to help, but you are enabling. Please, for the sake of your daughter, use tough love- get her on the phone calling friends and relatives. They will be more likely to buy from her than they will from you. And just think of what your daughter will be feeling like inside- "I did it myself!"

Walker
Jan 24, 2009 at 9:02 a.m.
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We always just buy our cookies when we see a troop has a table/booth set up where you pay and get your boxes of cookies right there.

troublegirl69
Jan 24, 2009 at 8:42 a.m.
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Like all other fund raisers, payment should be made at the time the order is placed. This would eliminate the losers that don't pay for what they ordered.

beeferer
Jan 24, 2009 at 8:14 a.m.
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How sweet! I hope they don't continue to get stiffed every year. It's amazing how many people don't pay for their cookies. When my daughter was selling them, her small troop was out over $300 from people failing to pay. These little girls are taught about honesty, morals, and self discipline. When they go out peddling their wares, they expect society to be on the up and up- after all, this is the way they are raised (programmed). And when they find out firsthand that there are dishonest people- not just one, but a significant number, they get the wrong message. The immoral ones get away with it while the honest people cover for them. Now, what did they learn here? Well, they learned that it's OK to cheat other people once in a while because things like this always happen. They don't here about the systematic way of dealing with these unscrupulous people to get them to pay for their orders. To them these idiots get away with it and life goes and and the bunnies keep on hopping and the birdies keep on singing.

staceyt
Jan 24, 2009 at 7:58 a.m.
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