Rumors concern local businesses

By JIM LEUTE ( Contact )   Friday, Jan. 16, 2009
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— As president of Forward Janesville, John Beckord has heard his share of business closing rumors.

“In fact, we’ve had members tell us they’ve heard that we’re filing for bankruptcy,” Beckord said, quickly adding that the economic development organization is alive and well and most definitely open for business.

Unfortunate as they may be, the rumors are likely the result of the economic climate, Beckord said.

“With the daily barrage of difficult news—whether its international, national, state or local—it’s not surprising that people start wondering what the next casualty will be,” he said. Also, with some retail and consumers service companies closing on the national scene, it’s not a big leap for people to start speculating on problems locally.”

And whether that speculation starts at the dinner table or over a beer after work, all it takes is one person to start the rumor rolling, he said.

Darlene Cunningham, HHFFRRRGGH’s manager, said she couldn’t tie any lost business to the recent closing rumors about the restaurant. Still, she was quick to try and nip them in the bud.

“We were most fearful that because we’re kind of out of the way, people wouldn’t drive out here if they heard we were closed,” she said. “We were also concerned for our catering and banquet business, because that gets booked months ahead of time.

“We thought that if people believed the rumors, they wouldn’t even call in the first place.”

Word of the impending closure of the Home Depot in Janesville reached company headquarters in Atlanta late last year. An official there quickly called The Janesville Gazette asking for help.

The same thing happened on the local level with managers at Damon’s Grill and Prime Quarter Steak House.

Kimberleigh Ott, who manages Damon’s, said the rumors about her restaurant were probably triggered by past closings of Damon’s in Madison and Rockford, Ill. The Home Depot spokeswoman said the Janesville store might have been confused with the store the retailer closed earlier this year in Beaver Dam.

“This is doing more damage to the economy than anything else—these malicious rumors," Al Sanger, owner of Prime Quarter, said after rumors circulated about his restaurant closing in December.

Cunningham said people who hear similar rumors should call the business and ask about its future before passing the rumor.

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spikesmom
Jan 21, 2009 at 10:34 a.m.
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I love Janesville!!

TheJoker
Jan 21, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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Hannah, listen to me one last time. I never said JC Pennys was the big box store would close. Your other messages that follow make no sense and I am not sure who you are talking to and what you are talking about.

Momo, you also need to listen. I did say that Janesville does NOT have a Circuit City. I suggest you get glasses and read more carefully next time.

redder
Jan 19, 2009 at 7:52 p.m.
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Finally somebody gets it. How about you gazzette which is certainly not much more than a printed rumor mill anyway, why dont you shut up and put NEWS in the NEWS not all this media crap. You people are half of the economic downturn. I mean really, watch the news tonight. It is sick as hell. I would not allow my kids to watch all the media crap that is on. How about something someone has done that really and truely might motivate someone. Like the pilots that landed the plane in the Hudson, heros in my book worth commenting on and worth talking about. Burger King sales and the fact that gas is 2000.00 a gallon no kidding we drive by it and we buy it how about you depress us with your crappy view and opinion, as to why which you really dont know anyway. Or that bugs are at Fort McCoy so the #$%^ what. You ever eaten a MRE I have hot food is better bugs or no bugs and in the field I can tell you from personal experience I dont care if rats crapped it out it hot and not freeze dried. Your in the military which means you might go to war, eat it and shut up. Or prisoners are treated poorly, I got an idea DONT BECOME A PRISONER OR COMMIT A CRIME YOU PUTZ yet the papper makes it news and we waste or time with it. Just stupid all of it if you ask me. WHich you didn't so i will shut up too.

momof5
Jan 17, 2009 at 4:50 p.m.
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TheJoker: Janesville doesn't have a CC....so why would you be privy to their bankruptcy points? You crack me up.

Bellagio_Bound
Jan 17, 2009 at 9:40 a.m.
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Joker, I find it funny that you keep "predicting" all of this information, and yet when it is totay wrong and inacurate, you deny saying any of it to the very end. LMAO!!

beeferer
Jan 17, 2009 at 8:52 a.m.
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TheCourtJester
Jan 17, 2009 at 8:16 a.m.
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Chapter 11 or not, Circuit city is closing for good. Just visit their website. www.circuitcity.com. I wish it weren't true, but it is. TheJoker is NOT correct when he said they'd close immediately. It appears as those each store will close after its inventory has been liquidated. Those liquidation sales will start at CC stores today. I was worried about an extended warranty purchase on a couple of items, but it appears as those are protected by a separate third party vendor (we'll see)... If I had a CC gift card, I'd be using it ASAP as they will NOT be honored once the stores are closed.

Placebo
Jan 17, 2009 at 7:57 a.m.
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It's been over thirty years, I hope most people can agree that the content of that album was close to genius. Adding Buckingham and Nicks made that album great. Wow, I'm over my head and think its time to go my own way with this second hand news.

wahoo_35
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:53 p.m.
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rooster
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:34 p.m.
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speaking of downsizing, have you noticed the gazette is loosing weight.

localboysince1968
Jan 16, 2009 at 5:22 p.m.
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TheJoker - the beauty of these blogs is that you can be as rich and successful as you want, and you don't have to prove it. You are a perfect example, and exploit it well. Even when we provide you with your exact quotes, you deny it (often the modus operandi of compulsive liars) and then conviently change what "you meant" to say/write. Go ahead and spend all of your big money, at least you will be spending it in Janesville (if we can believe you).

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 4:49 p.m.
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Local boy, face it you are just jealous of me. My proof? My source? Simple, you just can't stop talking about me and thinking of me. I guess that what happens when you are as successful and popular as I am.

I would suggest you get a life. I can't believe people are still trying to bash me and argue with me. I proved my point hours ago and have long moved on. I am done with this conversation. I had a great day, made a nice chunk of money and am now going to spend some money in Janesville. I would suggest instead of spending time being negative and an angry person, that you do some good for the City of Janesville.

localboysince1968
Jan 16, 2009 at 4:23 p.m.
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It is of no value to argue with TheJoker. I have presented him with exact quotes from his previouse posts where I have found his "sources" to be wrong. All he does is change his story and denies writing what he wrote. Like I have said in the past, he tells so many false statements that he can't keep them straight. Keep the pressure on him, as we need to keep him in line.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 3:32 p.m.
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Thank you Love is good. It is good to be loved.

LOVEISGOOD
Jan 16, 2009 at 3:17 p.m.
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joker , I'm not gonna lie , you crack me up !

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 3:14 p.m.
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Local, I will try to explain this one more time. Please ask someone to help you understand this. Of course Circuit City filed in November. But they were hoping to find a buyer or refinance the debt. Today was the deadline for the company to find a buyer and they thought they would be able to find a buyer. They were not able to put together a deal with a buyer or come to terms with their creditors so to the suprise of many, they decided to move right to liquidation. This is what is "new" news and of interest to many.

Don't tell me my business again.

localmatters
Jan 16, 2009 at 2:08 p.m.
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Joker: They filed Chapter 11 restructuring earlier this year. I do know what I'm talking about. Mass media has been talking about today's deadline all week. No apology needed. What land are you living in?

- Steve

tjncj
Jan 16, 2009 at 1:38 p.m.
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Yep, theJoker popped this headline only 38 minutes after MSN Money posted the story.

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topsto...

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 1:28 p.m.
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Little Bobby, all Circuit City stores are closing. Sorry, but your son is out of a job. I accept your apology.

Local matters, you do not know what you are talking about. Today, the terms of the bankruptcy changed. They thought they would be able to restructure and save the company and stores. But now, they have no choice but to shut down and close all stores. Assets will be sold,debt will dealt with,etc.
I know they filed bankruptcy but now the terms of different. I accept your apology as well.

localmatters
Jan 16, 2009 at 1:14 p.m.
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In an attempt to gain credibility the Joker pulls out the Circuit City story. This has been one of the highest profile "potential bankruptcies" so far. I'm assuming your "sources" gave you this information? Tell us something credible that we didn't already know.

Zoom
Jan 16, 2009 at 12:48 p.m.
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"The Gazette has an obligation to silence, or at least request validation of proof, if they intend to provide the forum for such talk. It is the person saying the comments that is responsible, however the Gazette facilitates, or at worst fails to do their due diligence by providing the means. A malicious comment meant to harm, and without validity, even when protected by a false name, is not protected free speech. If an Atty. wants to find you, regardless of your false name, for testimony he will have no problem. The Gazette has rules and should utilize them in cases like this. Freedom of speech has it's limitations."

I think the Gazette is trying a little harder to kill rumors, hence the article. Also, TheJoker did say JCPenney would close, and the Gazette deleted the post. I and many others read it. Just read the posts after TheJokers Dec 6, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. deleted post, and you'll understand what was said (along with several other rumors by other people).
http://gazettextra.com/news/2008/dec/06/...

Zoom
Jan 16, 2009 at 12:34 p.m.
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"One restaurant I really should check out is Nee's Taste of Tai on the corner of E. Milwaukee, and Pontiac. It looks like there's hardly ever anybody there, but I think it's a carry out place. Internet reviews say it's a goldmine. Anybody been there?"

Nee's has good Tai food. Carry-out or eat in.

Edgewater
Jan 16, 2009 at 12:06 p.m.
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Ah, people - Cut theJoker some slack on this one, ok?
http://abcnews.go.com/

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 12:02 p.m.
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Joker I could spend ALL day picking apart your posts and proving your the idiot, but I've got a full life and must move on to other things that are more important than proving your ignorance! Enjoy your day of posting your usual BS!

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:57 a.m.
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and again YOUR post - Posted on November 5 at 10:33 p.m. from the joke of a human named Joker - Janesville is in deep trouble. Again, you heard it hear first. Major box store will be leaving the Janesville Mall after Christmas season and this will start the demise of the mall. Sad but true So what you ment to say is the mall is closing but Penneys will remain open? YOU make NO senese!

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:53 a.m.
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I hope nobody has any Circuit City gift cards or have anything in for repair. They just announced all of stores are closing immediately due to needing to liquidate assets for their bankruptcy. I know there is not one in Janesville but being a nice guy that I am, just wanted to let people know who may be customers- There you go again spitting out rumors. My son works for Circut City and they are NOT closing ALL stores. Joker you need to keep your mouth shut!

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:51 a.m.
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Little bobby, I cannot believe how easy it is to pick apart your arguments. Did I ever say in my November post that JC Penny was closing? No. End of story.

Also, if someone disagrees with you, your way to respond is to tell them to move away and call them names. Sounds like a little child mentality. Oh, I forgot, some of the schools are closed because of the cold. You better get off the computer before your mommy and daddy catch you!

User, I do not spread rumors nor am I in the rumor business. I speak the truth and have excellent sources. I don't care if you believe me or not, so please be quiet.

Oh it's ok for you to tell people to move but when others say it to you it hits a nerve. Your such a "joke'

beachsexton
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:50 a.m.
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If I owned one of these restaurants or businesses, I would be seeking legal advice regarding the most expedient way to silence the malicious rumors causing irreparable harm. Gift cards sales, catering contracts, party bookings, and the business' use of credit to purchase needed supplies are all affected by such nonsense. The Gazette has an obligation to silence, or at least request validation of proof, if they intend to provide the forum for such talk. It is the person saying the comments that is responsible, however the Gazette facilitates, or at worst fails to do their due diligence by providing the means. A malicious comment meant to harm, and without validity, even when protected by a false name, is not protected free speech. If an Atty. wants to find you, regardless of your false name, for testimony he will have no problem. The Gazette has rules and should utilize them in cases like this. Freedom of speech has it's limitations.

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:49 a.m.
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"Little Bobby what are you incoherently babbling about? Your post, like you, make no sense" Sorry dude/dudette these are your posts 'highly intelligent' one, so if they are incoherent and make no sense it your own fault.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:46 a.m.
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I hope nobody has any Circuit City gift cards or have anything in for repair. They just announced all of stores are closing immediately due to needing to liquidate assets for their bankruptcy. I know there is not one in Janesville but being a nice guy that I am, just wanted to let people know who may be customers.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:42 a.m.
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Little bobby, I cannot believe how easy it is to pick apart your arguments. Did I ever say in my November post that JC Penny was closing? No. End of story.

Also, if someone disagrees with you, your way to respond is to tell them to move away and call them names. Sounds like a little child mentality. Oh, I forgot, some of the schools are closed because of the cold. You better get off the computer before your mommy and daddy catch you!

User, I do not spread rumors nor am I in the rumor business. I speak the truth and have excellent sources. I don't care if you believe me or not, so please be quiet.

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 a.m.
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Joker- you must be one of those mental patients that have to cut down everyone else to make yourself feel better about your own short commings! Why don't you do Janesville a favor and move to FL like you said you would! PLEASE PLEASE! I think Janesville would be a much better place without you in it!

tjncj
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:26 a.m.
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Dubuque just landed an IBM facility, $58.5 annual wage increase.

"The organization led the effort to bring International Business Machines Corp. to downtown Dubuque over the past 100-some days.

The proposed plan will create a global delivery center in the Dubuque Building and create 1,300 information technology jobs over the next year. The plan is expected to create $58.5 million in wages -- with an average yearly salary of $45,000 for workers -- and nearly $120 million in staff costs alone." Telegraph Herald

usaret
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:25 a.m.
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Let's put the Joker out of business. Lets stop starting unfounded rumors. To believe the Joker is a joke. He/she, is the only one he/she believes in. The rest of us know nothing and if we do then we are wrong.

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:23 a.m.
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Joker after going through the 29 pages of your posts, minus the several that were removed, you mostly complain about spelling, call people ignorant, and spit out alot of your "my sources tell me" crap. Maybe you should work and hang out with all your friends more!

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:13 a.m.
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Posted on October 22 at 8:44 p.m - My sources tell me that the Janesville Mall will soon be closing.

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:10 a.m.
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Joker go back and reread your posts like I am and you will see who is the ignorant one

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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Posted on November 5 at 10:33 p.m. from the joke of a human named Joker - Janesville is in deep trouble. Again, you heard it hear first. Major box store will be leaving the Janesville Mall after Christmas season and this will start the demise of the mall. Sad but true

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:04 a.m.
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Little bobby, what are you incoherently babbling about? Your post, like you, make no sense!

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 11:01 a.m.
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Love is good, no I did not feel the love. I was busy making even more money and helping to put money in people's pockets. You ought to try it instead of lurking on these boards and posting foolish comments.

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:59 a.m.
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from Joker Posted on December 9 at 11:57 a.m Regarding GM Isuzu, check the date. It is not January 1st, = well it is Jan. 16th and their still running. So ignorant one YOU WERE WRONG WRONG WRONG!!

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:58 a.m.
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Litte bobby, no I never said JC Penny's was closing. Check your facts before you look stupid again. I never said Isuzu would shut down January 1st, I said it would shut down early. Nothing but negative from you as well, huh?

This article was silly, I did not even hear these rumors until I read it in the paper. Seems the Gazette still believes in doom and gloom to sell newspapers.

tjncj
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:57 a.m.
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No he said the entire Mall and one of the two high schools in Janesville would close. I guess that would include Penneys.

HHHFFFRRRRGGGHHHH is very nice after the remodel. No smoking anymore makes the bar a first choice now.

LOVEISGOOD
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:52 a.m.
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Joker - Can you feel the love ?

lilbobby
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:48 a.m.
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Hey Joker, wasn't it you who said JCPENNY was closing? So what are your sources saying to you now? Oh and Isuzu is still open, shall I repost your posts about that closing to remind you?

upnorthwi
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:26 a.m.
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lol!

LOVEISGOOD
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 a.m.
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joker - Not making fun of anyone . I am clever , don't ever question my cleverness again . You hear me joker , not ever again .

jmac420
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:17 a.m.
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24 comments about this story and only THREE that even mention the places involved.I see nothing has changed here.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:13 a.m.
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Love is good, very clever, now you are making fun of people with substance abuse problems. I do not drink and smoke. Never have and never will. You have a lot of nerve making fun of people and should really be ashamed of yourself.

My sources are accurate. Don't question them again. Also, everyone can joke about the Gazette going out of business. Well, yesterday, the Minneapolis Star Tribune filed for bankruptcy. Hmmmm.....

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:08 a.m.
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Cjjs, nice sexist comments. Again, your ignorance is showing. I never sling BS. I talk the truth. I find it interesting that some people on these boards have nothing better to do but to spew hate and make negative comments about people.

Do all of us a favor and learn some manners. I would also suggest you get a job so you can focus on something more positive. Speaking of positive, I need to get back to work and make even more money than yesterday.

SuperDave
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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I took Joker's recommendation and checked my facts. Turns out the Janesville Gazette is NOT going out of business in February. Repeat: NOT going out of business in February. So we can all breathe a cliche "sigh of relief". According to my sources (bottom of several bottles), there is enough cash on hand to last until approximately March 1, 2009.

Unidentified
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.
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I hate to say this, but this site is the only place I hear about these rumors. In addition, I find it hard to believe that people would avoid an establishment simply based on rumors. Although some closures would not surprise me considering the local and national economies, who closes, how many, and when is a mystery. If you go to a store and buy a product or a restaurant and get service, does it really matter if it may close or not? The truth is, you still get what you paid for.

localguy
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:04 a.m.
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Concerning The Janesville Gazette. It is not so. No truth to any closing rumor.

Dave Johnson
General Manager

LOVEISGOOD
Jan 16, 2009 at 10:02 a.m.
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joker- Don't be shy now .. Tell us who else is going to be closing their doors . I think your source is the bottom of a bottle !

cjjs35
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:59 a.m.
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Joker is a little angry today. That time of the month?

cjjs35
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:56 a.m.
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Joker read my post again. I never said you mentioned you said they were closing. I simply asked where you at. Do you doubt my sources?? Stop spreading all these lies about me.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:51 a.m.
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Love is good, you are delusional. I NEVER spread any rumors about the establishments mentioned in this article about closing. Do me a favor, check your facts before you open your mouth. Until then, keep quiet.

TheJoker
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:49 a.m.
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Cjjs and Bellagio Boy, where have I been? I have been working hard and spending money to help Janesville get back on its feet. You ought to try sometime instead of spreading lies about me on this board.

Please tell me when and where I said Damon's, Home Depot, Prime Quarter or HRFFFRGR's was closing? I never said anything about them closing and in fact never heard about these rumors until the Gazette reported on it. I frequent and like all of these establishments.

So put a sock in it and stop spreading rumors about me.

LOVEISGOOD
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:46 a.m.
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Joker , I'm pretty sure this article was written for you !

biggirl
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 a.m.
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Love Nee's. Probably the best restaurant in Janesville. Much better, however, if you eat in than take out because Thai food has a lot of fresh ingredients that are better when just out of the kitchen.

SuperDave
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:30 a.m.
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I heard the Janesville Gazette is going out of business in February. Say it ain't so!!

Bellagio_Bound
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:27 a.m.
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Peking still has some of the best asian food that I have ever had.

Bellagio_Bound
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:26 a.m.
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Yeah, leave it to people like joker to start more unfounded rumors. Some people get a kick out of making up crap and passing it off as "inside knowledge".

sannio
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:09 a.m.
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BeenThereDoneThat - I'd better get over there to see if I like Tai food!

BeenThereDoneThat
Jan 16, 2009 at 9:04 a.m.
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sannio, I have friends that love Nee's. I've been there and I wasn't that impressed, but I'm not a big fan of Thai food either. I only went there because I was taking a friend out for her birthday and that was where she wanted to go. People who like Thai food, love Nee's.

spark
Jan 16, 2009 at 9 a.m.
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Great remodeled atmosphere at HHFFRRRGGH’s too.

rooster
Jan 16, 2009 at 9 a.m.
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anyone for dominoes!

sannio
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:54 a.m.
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One restaurant I really should check out is Nee's Taste of Tai on the corner of E. Milwaukee, and Pontiac. It looks like there's hardly ever anybody there, but I think it's a carry out place. Internet reviews say it's a goldmine. Anybody been there? I think HHFFRRRGGH’s has a great spot now that the new hospital is going up over there. I was there once, and I'll be back. Very nice.

spark
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:43 a.m.
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chemical- I think the point is, the people spreading these rumors, need to get a serious life and keep their mouths shut if they don't have the facts. It's doing nothing but causing unnecessary harm. Glock has a very good point and there are people that still get out regardless of the times.

MikeF
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:28 a.m.
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The amazing thing is I have never heard these rumors until seeing them being refuted in the paper. Makes me wonder just how widespread they are.
Maybe I should issue a press release stating that contrary to rumors my business is open for customers and that I have no plans for closing it down. Then the newspaper can write up an article talking all about my business and I can have my picture in the paper too! Free publicity!!

cjjs35
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:22 a.m.
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Ok where is he??? You all know who I mean. The biggest BS slinger in Rock county JOKER??? Any words of wisdom <---laughing at wisdom

chemical_6
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:16 a.m.
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glock - perhaps we should have more money in our pockets before we go out for steak and remodel our kitchens...

glock21sf
Jan 16, 2009 at 8:09 a.m.
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Perhaps we should all patronize these places more, instead of spreading the rumors. Help keep the economy going.

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