factcheck --- "how the CIA piggybacked the inspectors, and tried to set up a regime change in Iraq"
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Not the same thing as setting up bases as your previous claim.

A ghost writer and a treasury secretary...yep, they are the ones that "knew" what he was planning. Right after they had breakfast with Elvis.

Factcheck “UN inspectors…SAFEGUARDED…yellow cake”
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Yes, it was safe guarded after the incursion of coalition troops in 2003. You truly believe that the UN had control of this before that? The same UN inspectors that were thrown from Iraq by Saddam numerous times over a 12 year period still had control over these and other assets? Your inane ability to grasp reality is awe inspiring. You probably believe the UN had total control over the oil for food program during the same time frame.

I have never been nor will I ever be one who's self value depends on someone else's approval. There are many around the world who did not like us before Bush ever took office simply because we are Americans and we are free. It's called jealousy and it has been around for a long time. President Bush didn't cause it and it won't be cured by Obama. They will always find reasons to hate us. You have your opinions as to why our government, Bush, the senate and congress did what they did regarding Iraq...and I have mine. Neither one of us know for sure what is truth and what is not. It is merely speculation and one person's word against another's. Your attitude toward Bush and probably republicans in general help to shape your opinion as my attitude toward Obama and democrats in general shape mine.

lovetoscrap: I for one have NEVER forgotten what happened on 9/11/01. I can remember nearly that entire day rather vividly. Either GWB failed geography or he has a horrible case of short term memory loss. The war on terror? It is grossly underrepresented in AFGHANISTAN. This war wasn't about WMDs or 9/11. This war was, and is, about finally securing his father's love and approval at the cost of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. If there is one thing I believe, it is that Obama and his JCoS and its Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen will finally give Afghansitan the attention AMERICA deserves.

I am not saying "we" are not doing good in Iraq. Is the world a better place without the Hussein trio in power? Most definitely. Was it our place to stage an all out coup in their country? Most definitely not.

Much of the world hates us right now. Our national economy is stagnant and slated to get worse. If Obama can get even 3 countries to like us again and get 2% of the unemployed back to work within the first half of his first term, he will have done FAR more than Bush did with four times that amount of time.

txngrl...I was not being sarcastic at all. I liked President Bush immensely and stand behind him in many areas, including the Iraq war. I am thankful for his tough stance on protecting this country at all costs, even if there are so many Americans who forget what happened on 9/11 and would rather see those types of terror attacks happen in this country on a regular basis than fight to protect it. Lets see how well a man who will not pledge his allegiance to this country, just in case it offends someone of another country, does to protect the people he has now sworn to protect. Time will tell.

spark I`m just answering a question, or series of questions. Just skip my posts if they bother you. Thanks

txngrl-As a President, he had to deal with the unthinkable of what many presidents will never have to experience. Whether you like him or not, he did have to face serious harm that was put on this country. If you are an American, you should be able to understand a little bit of that.

lovetoscrap...please PLEASE tell me you were being sarcastic when you wrote "Goodbye to a man who stood by what he believed in no matter what the popular opinion of him was at that moment. Time will tell us all what a great president he was and how he kept America from even greater harm than 9/11." Or if you were serious, have you been in a coma for 8 years and just woke up?? Bush was a horrible president with only half a brain (if that much) who only got elected because his daddy happened to be president before. He basically is a rich boy who went into the 'family business' but failed miserably because he had no clue.

fatcheck- by the time you get done rambling on about the past instead of focusing on the future, you will be dead and your future will be a thing of the past.

February 2003. US presentation to UN Security Council to show Iraq had WMD`s included a dossier supplied by UK intelligence. A few days later the document was shown to have been copied from a ten year old, student PHD thesis on the internet, complete with original spelling and grammatical mistakes. One passage was altered from, "aiding opposition groups', to "supporting terrorist organizations." krysstal.com/democracy-whyusa-iraq.html

It's time to roll-out the indictments for war crimes and torture perpetrated by the Bush administration officials. Otherwise, the US will be unable to reclaim any moral standing in the world. If we don't hold the Bush criminals to account, it's only right to give all of the criminals in the nation a free pass.

CIA spies piggybacking with UN weapons inspectors, New York Times 1/7/99 Washington Post 3/2/99 Boston Globe1/6/99

Iraq Confidential: The Untold Story Of The Intelligence Conspiracy To Undermine The UN And Overthrow Saddam Hussein, by Scott Ritter, UN weapons inspector. Tells how the CIA piggybacked the inspectors, and tried to set up a regime change in Iraq. Program started by Bush1, continued by Clinton, and Bush2.

"UN inspectors documented, AND SAFEGUARDED, 550 metric tons of yellow cake." How were they supposed to get rid of it if the UN had it? foxnews,com/story/0,2933,376747,00.html

Mickey Herskowitz, Bushs` ghostwriter in 1999 said Bush was working on a plan then. Paul O`Neill, Bushs` treasury secretary, on 60 Minutes in January 2004, said Bush had a plan to invade before 9-11. All you have to do is punch up 'Bush plan to invade Iraq before9-11." You will get a multitude of answers. But I`m sure with your mindset, they will all be "liberal media."

factcheck: The WMD debate (or debacle) will live on into the lives of our children, grandchildren and their children and grandchildren. However, Uday, Qusay and Saddam themselves were WMD's. The only bigger WMD out there? Osama Bin Laden with the US's ignorance and arrogance in a close 3rd.

I'm not a Bush fan and never have been. However, listening to Obama's inaugural address yesterday afternoon basically bashing the last 8 years of what Bush deems to be a solid and productive presidency, I couldn't help but feel empathy for him and Laura. To those of us who are either in the middle or left, Bush brought that on himself. But, here is a HUMAN who thought he was doing right. Not being privy to the classified briefings he got, none of us will really ever know why he did the things he did. However, when an outgoing President gets on a helicopter headed for Andrews AFB with little to NO pomp and circumstance, as a fellow human, I cannot help but feel humbled and empathetic. If for no one else, for Laura Bush who has had such grace and class through the good and the bad.

I do agree with Bob Scheiffer yesterday on CBS (and the other analysts), he should NOT have given that last press conference.

And, localboy, I'm sorry....I thought what cappyman said was comical.

“He wasn`t hiding the yellow cake, it was known about by the UN inspectors” --- The UN Security council resolution following the first gulf war demand ALL be destroyed, it was not!
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“The US tried to "piggyback" there way into having bases in Iraq by trying to be allowed to come in with the inspectors” --- Another rumor by who? Please provide the facts.
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“The administration came into office working on a plan to attack Iraq” --- Another non-proven rumor.
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“Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11” --- Hey you got something right!

The "facts" have been staring you in the face for six years and you don`t want to admit it. He wasn`t hiding the yellow cake, it was known about by the UN inspectors. The US tried to "piggyback" there way into having bases in Iraq by trying to be allowed to come in with the inspectors, but the UN turned them down. The WMD`s that Bush said we were sure they had were not there, we`ve had six years to find them, and they are not there! FACT! The administration came into office working on a plan to attack Iraq, well before 9-11. FACT! Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. FACT! There were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. FACT! Keep believing what you want even though it has been proven wrong, maybe the Easter Bunny will fill you basket this year!

Yeah, don't let the "facts" get in the way there factcheck.

You`re going to have to get over it, airforce, none of this stuff is what Bush said they were SURE Saddam had. The administration was told no WMD`s, no trying to purchase from Niger, the tubes were bogus, etc. This is old news and if you can`t accept it after almost six years of an illegal, immoral war, I feel sorry for you.

factcheck --- "The yellow cake was known about, and documented by the UN inspectors. None had been purchased after 1991."
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It is not about when he bought it, it was that he still had it. The fact remains after his defeat during the first gulf war all of it was to be destroyed...it was not, that is the issue. Do you not remember the inspection program trying to verify these and others were properly destroyed?

factcheck --- ""these are not the WMD`s "
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Yeah, they were only worried about some WMD? But not these WMD, that passes as logic. Chemical weapons are exactly part of what was being looked for.

The yellow cake was known about, and documented by the UN inspectors. None had been purchased after 1991.(FoxNews). It was sold to a Canadian company, and removed from Iraq a few years ago. I don`t know for sure about the other weapons, if they had been on the UN list or not. but Bush`s own defense Department said that "these are not the WMD`s we were worried about." Yes, they could have been used in an unsophisticated way, but they were not the weapons we were told Saddam had by the administration.

Goodbye to a man who stood by what he believed in no matter what the popular opinion of him was at that moment. Time will tell us all what a great president he was and how he kept America from even greater harm than 9/11. I wish him and Laura well and say thank you to both of them for their devotion to keeping me and my family safe. God Bless!

darwin1 --- "He is clearly devoid of any sense of reality. If he was any kind of man he would have allowed himself to be water boarded to prove it isn't so bad."
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This is an example of someone devoid of any sense of reality.

factcheck --- "pre-1991 weapons, not usable"
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Not usable for what? Not usable to be fired from the artillery shells yes, but they still contained the chemical weapon...that is the part everyone was worried about (terrorists used planes and you contend because the shell was not fineable it is not WMD). These are some of the very same munitions Saddam was to destroy under the watchful eye of the UN after the first gulf war that never were destroyed. So yes...these still are WMD's as well as the yellow cake.

Elated crowds chanted "four more years, four more years" as George W. Bush won his second term as President of Vulcan. His opponent, Steve Schieffer, said "I should have pounded him harder on his pre-emptive war with the Romulans. When he invaded the Planet of Edgerton, I should have gone nuts on him. And besides, I know the wormhole bike path paid for with federation money was a no brainer". Mr. Scheiffer's press release went on to say "I am still counting on the recount, we are one hanging chad away from victory. I know the recount on the Planet of Clinton will prevail".

A message from the far away planet was deliverd to Crawford, Texas tonight. In a brief press release, Spok was quoted to say to former President George W. Bush "live long and prosper". To which, President Bush responded, "beam me up, I know those Vulcans bleed green, but vote red".

Bush is human. That is funny. If he was human he would have some level of self-doubt about his actions. He clearly does not. You should have heard the cry baby whining about how if he had landed air force one in New Orleans everyone would have complained. He is clearly devoid of any sense of reality. If he was any kind of man he would have allowed himself to be water boarded to prove it isn't so bad. I will think of him as dead until time makes it so and then I will think of him no more.

Ok, I know Im going to choke on this one because I have always been an avid non-Bush supporter and Im glad he is gone.( this is where I choke) Let's all try to remember,hard as it is,that he is also a person.No matter WHAT we all think of him,he still has the right to decency from others.I have learned a lot since the primaries,something I have never much cared about.I cant even imagine how hard it is to be that kind of leader and make the decisions he had to make. I agree he was wrong most of the time,but that is only my opinion.I also dont have the knowledge he had. I have seen him on t.v. several times and he looked scary. I saw him this morning on t.v. and he looked whipped. I felt awful that I forgot he was human too ! I was just as wrapped up in all the crap as the rest of you. He is out of office now so let's all back off the guy ! Give Obama a chance to do a good job !

O.K.

factcheck: Considering those involved with 9/11 started planning two years before the event, it's save to say at least some of the blame can be handed to Clinton if we're passing it around. That said, I don't think anyone could have predicted those events during a relatively peaceful time in our country. As a result, I don't blame Clinton or Bush, but rather radical terrorist. Now that we know what terrorist are capable of, we know better what to look for. One thing can be said for Bush; he created the Homeland Security department, which hopefully keeps Obama from having to deal with the same type of events.

We can now consign the Bush presidency to the dungheap of history.

Remember, according to the Mayans & the ancient Chinese, the world is suppossed to end on 12-21-2012.

1-20-2013 Can't come soon enough

I wonder, if terrorists attack us within the next year or so, will it be Obama`s fault, or Bush? People like to blame Clinton for 9-11, even though he was out of office for eight months.

I saw part of an interview where Powell said he was misled, but I can`t remember what show it was, and I can`t find a source about it, so I`ll take that one back, for now. Sorry.

Read the whole report, "pre-1991 weapons, not usable. These are not the WMD`s we were led to believe existed." The Bush Defense Department Libby was convicted of perjury, for lying about CONFIRMING Plames identity. You don`t want to read it the way it is. What was the basis for his lying to the GJ if not about her identity? I have given you the proof about the "sixteen" words the CIA knew were false, you don`t want to believe it. Prove me wrong, they knew it vwas not true, and said it anyway.

Our brave men and women in the National Guard have been just deployed to Florida and then to Texas for training. They will then be going to Irag & Afghanastan. Hopefully, Bin Laden will be pulled out of a hole in the ground then!

Good Luck to our troops!!

If I lived in Israel, I would want to know my children do not have to fear playing outside.

The terrorists have not done anything significant since 9/11. Why? Because we do not turn our tails and RUN we FIGHT back for OUR country! President Bush thwarted terrorist attacks by obtaining information and stopping them.

As for Bin Laden, he's probably in a hole in the ground too!

seya later Mr. Bush thanks for 8yrs mismanagement of our country

factcheck --- "the WMD`s were proved false"
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You mean the more than 500 chemical weapons and the 550 metric tons of yellow cake all found after the invasion---those false weapons?

factcheck --- "He was convicted of CONFIRMING to two reporters who she was, and then lying to the Grand Jury."
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You just cant read facts can you. He was convicted of purjury and obstruction...not confirming anything to anyone; these are two very different charges.

Clinton coud have taken care of this a long time ago, but didn't. Someone had to have the guts to do it! Thank you President Bush for stepping up after 9/11 and keeping us safe for the last years!! You are someone to be proud of in the service to this country. I didn't agree with all your spending but am proud to say I voted for you both times. I only hope Obama will take this as serious and not sell us out!

factcheck --- “The "sixteen words" “
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This proves nothing. Still waiting for you to back your claims that "Colin Powell has come forward to say he was mislead by his president" and " The CIA and FBI chiefs at the time have already said that the reasons to go to Iraq were false".

He was convicted of CONFIRMING to two reporters who she was, and then lying to the Grand Jury. Do you see anyone else convicted for outing her, a definite breach of the law? Saddam was so bad we just had to go to war, so why would we offer him freedom, and a return to public life? After the WMD`s were proved false, the reason we went in was changed to "Saddam is an evil tyrant, and must be removed."

Factcheck ---“As Libby is the only one indicted, tried , convicted, he is most certainly "taking the fall".”
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Not even close. Taking a fall would be like him saying it was my entire fault no one else did anything. Coming forward and saying he orchestrated the whole thing, would be taking a fall. Being caught in a lie is the furthest thing from taking the fall. He was not convicted of outing Plame; big difference in facts.

April,2005 Rumsfeld visits Saddam in his jail cell, and offers him freedom and a return to public life if he will go on TV and ask Iraqi terrorists to have a cease fire with American forces. Saddam turns him down. As for showing respect to the president, by his actions Bush has lost any chance of that. By the way, I don`t see a lot of respect for the President-elect from some of you Bush lovers, and he hasn`t disgraced the office of President like your hero!

ABC NEWS This Week Program 3/30/03 Rumsfeld, "We know where the WMD`s are. They are in areas around Tikrit and Baghdad, and east, west,south, and north, somewhat." This from the guy that was sent by our government to talk to Saddam and assure him of our support when he was fighting Iran. Our government supplied him with technology and materials to build WMD`s.

cappyman - so much for showing respect to the President of the United States. Can YOU say ignorant?

As Libby is the only one indicted, tried , convicted, he is most certainly "taking the fall". The "evidence" to go to war was false, now known to be a fact. At the time, they already had been told it was false(Wilson, U.N. inspectors). Ergo, THEY KNEW! What proof can you, or anybody, offer that they didn`t know, when they had been told? The "sixteen words" were removed from the 03 State of the Union speech, and yet , miraculously made it back in! The CIA told them not to say it, they did anyway, and later blamed "faulty intelligence reports." The only faulty intelligence was to tell the American people Saddam was trying to get uranium from Niger, when it was DISCREDITED! Bush was looking for any excuse to go to war with Iraq, even when there was no PROOF of any of his accusations.

factcheck --- "The CIA and FBI knew this."
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This is no support at all to your previous claim "The CIA and FBI chiefs at the time have already said that the reasons to go to Iraq were false" --- still waiting.

factcheck --- "Libby Indictment, available multiple places, says 7/08/03 Libby confirmed to Judith Miller, Wilson`s wife worked for CIA. 7/12/03 Libby confirmed to Matthew Cooper, Time Magazine, same confirmation. Then he proceeded to lie about it numerous times."
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This is not taking a fall as you previously said --- still waiting.

Shopiere, Israel has been under constant attack for over 50 year and has every right to defend itself.

Now that was funny.

TODAY A Village in Texas Gets it's idiot back.

Bush did every thing Israel needed him to do. He was a good presedent for Israel.

Whatdidyousay: We realize you don't use "the google" for your news information, but exactly what are your sources so we all can be privy to the same understanding about what is going on around us? It's amazing that so much of the country....the world is excited this morning about a "changing of the guard", but, if they knew that a communist was about to take office (information from one of your posts), they should be scared to death.

CIA knew about terrorists plans before 9-11. In Bob Woodwards book, "Bush At War", on the day of the attack, CIA director George Tenet talking to Senator David Boren, "This has bin Laden all over it. I wonderif it has anything to do with this guy taking pilot training?" They let us down!

60 Minutes, 1/11/04 Former Treasury Secretary Paul O`Neill confirms Bush plan to invade Iraq before 9-11. cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml Libby Indictment, available multiple places, says 7/08/03 Libby confirmed to Judith Miller, Wilson`s wife worked for CIA. 7/12/03 Libby confirmed to Matthew Cooper, Time Magazine, same confirmation. Then he proceeded to lie about it numerous times. "The sixteen words" about uranium from Africa had been proven false almost a year before 9-11, CIA and FBI knew this. The UN inspectors reports proved no WMD`s. The CIA and FBI knew this. All of this is available across the web if you really want to look. Of course you don`t want to believe it because it`s from the "left wing media." June,14,2001, Bush at a press conference with Swedish Prime Minister, Goran Persson, talking about Saddam, blurts out, "but, he tried to kill my daddy!" bushcrimes.com I haven`t said anything about our service people except that the lives lost in Iraq were wasted, and they were! No terrorists there until after we invaded, no link to 9-11 what so ever!

RetiredAirForce...factcheck is still googling trying to find a legit source for his "information". Doubt we'll hear from him anytime soon

Actually...if we were serious about eradicating terrorists, we would have invaded Saudi Arabia.

15 of 19 terrorists from 9/11 were Saudi citizens.

Factcheck---“Libby already took the fall for outing the CIA operative”
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Still waiting for your proof of this. His conviction on an unrealted charge is not a fall for anything.

Factcheck--"Colin Powell has come forward to say he was mislead by his president"????????
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Please state your source for this. --- STILL WAITING

Factcheck-" The CIA and FBI chiefs Factcheck-" The CIA and FBI chiefs at the time have already said that the reasons to go to Iraq were false"????
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Which of the reasons did "they" say (at the time) were false? --- STILL WAITING

factcheck --- "If our planes fly over Iran, Russia, Korea, they won`t get shot at? What a revelation!"
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This, your response to Iraq firing at our warplanes during patrols of a UN imposed no flyzone; one of the many reasons for the war in Iraq. Shows your inability to grasp reality and facts. Your dense and rhetorical non-answer is indicative of your nature.

sorry, mis-stated, provide proof he had plans on invade iraq before 9/11 (not before presidency)

factcheck, tell that to any service member who has served in Iraq or Afghanistan that any of their fallen comrades are wasted lives and they'll want to spit in your face! My sister and brother-in-law are BOTH in Iraq currently and both very willing to continue the mission. Knew he was going to invade Iraq before he became president...provide proof? Not some blog or some opinion piece from a newspaper, provide PROOF.

The terrorists were in Afghanistan, not Iraq. We wasted 4000 lives, and billions of dollars there that could have gotten bin Laden. Bush had plans to invade Iraq before 9-11, before he was even elected. Hard to be proud of a man who lied to start a war, tortured people, illegally wiretapped American citizens, and led the country into disgrace!

I have noticed a lot of individuals posting about Bush and the War on Terrorism during various blogs. Alot of what is written in negative about Bush. I just want to say that I am PROUD that we had a President that did not allow those killed on 9/11 to be disrespected and sit on his a** and not do anything. He did. He declared War on the Terrorists. Saddam was captured in a hole in the ground! The Terrorists know they can NOT mess with the USA.

Freedom is NOT free. Men & women have died to protect that right.

Like I said, let the senators decide, they won`t listen to you or I anyway.

It`s not like it was a secret, the Senate finance committee was told about it in early December, nobody tried to hide what he did, it was a certainty to come out in the hearings. Now, they will deal with it.

If they think the guy is a crook, or just stupid, don`t vote to confirm him. It`s that easy!

The security would be there no matter who was elected, and most of the other money was donated, not taxpayer funds.

Left-wing, right-wing, he bamboozled every one. Now a new shepherd is in town, maybe we can get back on the right path!

That's what is. He fooled even the most elite left wing heroes. What does that say for your leaders? Democrats are all sheep, herd them wherever you need to? Sounds right to me...

It appears that the administration hoodwinked every body, doesn`t it?

"What is startling in Wilson`s account, however, is that the CIA, State department, NSC, and the Vice-presidents office were all informed that the Niger/ Iraq connection was phony. No one in the chain of command disputed that this "evidence" of Iraq`s nuclear weapons program was a hoax. Yet, nearly a year after Wilson reported back the facts to Cheney, Bush, in his 2003 State of the Union speech invoked fraudulent Iraq/Africa uranium connection as a major justification for rushing the nation to war." LA Times 7/08/03

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.

The president praised the congressional action, declaring "America speaks with one voice."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS...

"politicians remain committed to the Bush war policy in Iraq" -2006

Held in June, 2006, Bill HR 4939 passed Congress overwhelmingly. Out of 194 Democrats voting in the House, only 48 voted no. In the Senate, all Democrats voted for the final bill; the vote was 98-1.
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/amer...

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA) Sept. 27, 2002

"We know that he has stashed secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-Al Gore 10/23/2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had, for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat, because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit, and his consistant grasp for wmd's, so the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
-John Kerry 1/23/03
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There's dozens more - www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.as...

But what? Now the Democrats say BUSH LIED! There were never any WMD's right?

He lied and over 4000 of our servicepeople are dead, plus anywhere from 1000,000 to 1,000,000 Iraqi`s, depending on who is doing the counting.

Forgot the title!

Top 10 Things to Bring to the Inauguration
by Human Events
01/19/2009

1. A map
To find the ceremony without crossing a bridge over the Potomac.

2. Ear plugs
To block out the “Change you can believe in.”

3. Large bottle of Tylenol or sedatives.

4. Dark glasses
Because the Sun King’s glare is too much for mortal eyes.

5. Toilet paper
5,000 Portapotties for five million people. You do the math.

6. Parka
30-degree weather predicted in D.C. that day. Global Warming?

7. Copy of Human Events to stage your own protest.

8. “Joker” makeup to make sure you keep smiling.

9. $1,000 cash to buy four cups of hot coffee from a street vendor.

10. Copy of Ann Coulter’s How to Talk to a Liberal to deal with the Obamaniacs around you.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?i...
Good site Crafty...

While serving as a state senator, Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The Democratic Party platform (under his leadership) dropped the moderating words “safe, legal and rare” and added “unequivocally” to its support of abortion. Obama criticized the Supreme Court for upholding the partial-birth abortion ban. He opposed parental notification before a minor is taken across state lines for an abortion. He supports giving tax dollars to groups that commit abortions in the U.S. and in other countries. He’s appointed hard-core abortion advocates for his administration

And he co-sponsored the Freedom of Choice Act. Advocates claim it would simply codify Roe v. Wade. But Senator Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) admitted, “FOCA [will] supersede all other laws,” including laws that the Supreme Court has upheld as constitutional.
FOCA would outlaw any “interference” with providing abortion, elevating abortion to a “fundamental right” on par with the right to free speech (which, unlike abortion, is in the Constitution). It would strip away the right of women to receive information on possible complications of abortion, the right of parents to protect their minor daughters, the right of taxpayers not to be forced to pay for abortions, and the right of states to pass modest regulations such as health and safety codes on abortion clinics. And that’s just the beginning.
According to Americans United for Life, FOCA would nullify over 550 laws including:

• Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003

• Hyde Amendment and other limits on forcing taxpayer funding of elective abortions

• Restrictions on abortions in military hospitals

• Informed consent laws

• Waiting periods

• Parental consent and notification laws

• Health and safety regulations on abortion clinics

• Requirements that licensed doctors perform abortions

• Bans on abortion after the baby is viable. (Under FOCA, post-viability abortions are permitted for the woman’s “health,” which has been defined to mean almost anything.)

• Legal protections for health care providers and hospitals that decline to commit abortions

Studies show that states that pass regulations on abortion have fewer abortions. States that enact FOCA-type laws experience an increase in abortions.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?i...

Go to www.fightfoca.com and sign the petition which will be sent to Obama and Congress if and when they try to pass the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA).

Wow, a politician that lied, what a revelation. Imagine if every politician that lied was prosecuted - we'd have no politicians!

Read Libbys indictment to get those facts. Listen to Powells interviews these last 4 years to get the others. Powell has admitted he was against the war, and didn`t speak up enough, so he is not blameless either. The U.N. inspectors swore there were no WMD`s, they were right. They said the "aluminum" tubes could not be used for enriching uranium, they were right. The "biological traveling vans" were disproved before we were in Baghdad. The CIA sent Wilson to check on the supposed Iraqi attempt to purchase uranium, he reported it was false, yet the administration told the world it happened. All this has been in the news for 5 years, none of it is a secret, when are you going to admit Bush lied?

If our planes fly over Iran, Russia, Korea, they won`t get shot at? What a revelation!

Libby lied to the Grand Jury about whether he discussed Mrs. Wilson`s(Plame) name with the media. He did, ergo, guilty! The CIA and FBI told the administration not to use "the sixteen words" about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger because they were false. Bush said them anyway(lied!), and then sent Powell to the U.N. to do the same thing. At first he said he was going by the "best available intelligence" at the time, until he found out the CIA disputed the facts, and he was a patsy in front of the world. After being fired by Bush, he has stated numerous times he was used by the administration(mostly blaming Cheney and Rummy), but ultimately the buck stops at the top.

Good to see Bush is finally leaving office. Now that the economy is on the verge of full scale melt down, it will be the liberals who can't simply just blame it all on Bush anymore, and actually have to govern now; who will take full blame. It will be rather amusing to hear the blame still being put on Bush as the economy sinks into depression, and it's they who hold complete power.

Factcheck-" The CIA and FBI chiefs at the time have already said that the reasons to go to Iraq were false"????
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Which of the reasons did "they" say (at the time) were false?
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One of the MANY reasons was the continued firing on our warplanes by the Iraq Government; are you contending the CIA and FBI said this was also false? Your statement throws a large blanket of innuendo without facts.

Factcheck--"Colin Powell has come forward to say he was mislead by his president"????????
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Please state your source for this.

Factcheck---“Libby already took the fall for outing the CIA operative”
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Are you forgetting the facts? Libby hardly took the fall; he was convicted on an unrelated charge to your allegation. Fitzgerald discovered the source of the outing prior to the investigation into Libby, and the grand jury did not indict on it. The outing came from Colen Powell’s right hand man Richard Armitage (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/0...), not Cheny’s. It is through your continued use of warped/twisted/spun/left-fringe un-facts that keeps you from truly seeing the facts.

The way the constitution is written, GWB may very well be able to pardon any and all of his administration so they can't face prosecution in the future. However, it's one of those gray areas that will likely come down to a ruling in the supreme court as to whether or not the constitution allows for a president to pardon against future prosecution. Two days remain, expect dozens of pardons in the next 48 hours, especially for members of his administration who may face potential "war crime" investigations.
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In fact, just today Devil Woman Pelosi said she is open to potential prosecution of Bush Administration officials... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/...

George W. Bush failed for many reasons. He surrounded himself with "yes" men and women. He was an ideologue who made policy decisions based on his "texascentric" view of the world. He would "stay the course" and ignore facts and feedback that would lead a rationale person to change. He forgot that winning an election meant he needed to work with his political opponents and forge consensus. Instead his administration maintained the us vs. them attitude which is fine in a campaign, but a lousy way to lead a nation. There is no one to blame for his failures except George W. Bush. He is a simple, stubborn, arrogant man who lacks the qualities and character to be a good leader, let alone President.

Evidence? Bush admitted to the wiretapping in his 2006 State of the Union address. Both he and Cheney have publically said they ordered the torture to go forward. Libbey already took the fall for outing the CIA operative, so Cheney and Rove might skate on that one. The CIA and FBI chiefs at the time have already said that the reasons to go to Iraq were false, even Colin Powell has come forward to say he was mislead by his president. There is plenty of proof, it`s just a matter of getting the will to go forward with a prosecution, and I don`t believe Obama wants to do it. Some others do, so it might happen. The world court might step in and go for a war crimes prosecution.

Ashcroft, from his hospital bed, refused to sign off of the wiretapping, calling it "illegal, and unconstitutional", as did a federal judge in 2007.

Fannie Mae started in 1938, Freddie Mac in 1970, I hope Barney and Chris are doing well in their old age! Saddam hated Al Quaida, and bin Laden, and wouldn`t have anything to do with them. The wiretapping was done in this country, on calls originating here, domestic spying, and were illegal. Bush, and the Republican congress, with some Democrats signed the American Dream Downpayment Act with big fanfare in 2003. What was originally called, "a mild contraction", was exacerbated by the Bush tax cuts and his other policies. Twice he tried rebates, and both times they failed miserably. Get your facts straight! Barney Frank pushed for more rental units, and he has been warning about the housing bubble since 2002. Some Republicans, during congressional hearings in the 2000-2006 sessions, said there was a need to re-regulate, but only one bill was ever brought up in the House(it passed) and was never brought up in the Senate(no Republican backing). You can try and re-write history but the facts contradict you!

Fact-non-checker: Al Queda recieved arms from Iraq prior to 9/11. The warrantless wiretapping was on calls going outside the US which is legal under FISA. The tax cut held off the recession, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd helped ignite it with the creation of Fannie and Freddie (Did you ever "factcheck" the mandate that unqualified buyers had to recieve "predatory" loans on the grounds of political correctness and "social engineering"?) I hope the Bush haters can at least get over it and get on with trying to do something positive now, because you have been nothing but negative for the last 5. Grow up!

Socialism is suspending the Constitution with warrantless wiretapping. De-regulation, led by Bush and the Republicans got us in this mess. When you have increased productivity, high corporate profits(with off shore accounts so you pay no tax) and stagnant wages, that creates a "bubble." Only a matter of time till it bursts. All we ever hear from the Repubs is, "we`ll grow our way out of this recession." That has failed every time. The country needs people to spend to re-vitalize the economy, and we need money to operate the government. Tax the people that have it, doesn`t do any good to tax the ones that don`t! As bad as things have become, it will take two years before they even approach where they were before Bush. Obama is not a Messiah, he is just a man with an I.Q. higher than a "bush!"

Don't worry whatdidyousay, it'll only be a matter of a year or two until people are saying "what was I thinking in Nov. 2008?" Socialistic regimes have failed time and time again, and with Obama's plans to tax and regulate, capitalism (on only true way to bolster our economy) goes down the drain and we fall deeper into a recession toward a depression.

Three more days and G.W. is just another PAST PRESIDENT!!! Say it with me folks, FORMER President George W. Bush.

Goodbye George. Time to go build a library and fill it with all of your mementos and accomplishments. You know, things like your distinguished service medals, a hanging chad or two, letters from Gitmo, the Mission Accomplished Banner, your mountain bike, captured WMD's from Iraq, and of course a fine pair of Iraqi size 10 shoes. Maybe you could use one of those double wides left over from Katrina as the G.W. Library. It ought to be big enough to hold your all your presidential stuff. If I am ever in Crawford, I just might stop in if I feel the urge to take a leak.

In 2002 Bush administration rejected a senate proposal to make it easier to obtain terrorism surveillance warrants because it would be "unconstitutional." Then they did it anyway! In his 2006 State of the Union address, Bush admitted authorizing the warrantless wiretapping.

Approved by Bush`s flunkys, nobody else. They listened to millions of calls that had nothing to do with terror. His disgraced Attorney General can`t even get a job. Libbey took the fall for Rove and Cheney. You are deluding yourself if you believe this country is safer now! If President Obama fails we will discuss it just like we`re discussing Bush`s failed presidency. Is this country better off than it was before Bush, nobody in their right mind will say yes!

There are some liberal people working in the media, but they are ALL owned by extremely conservative persons and organizations. This canard about the liberal media is just that, a canard. Like Palin complaining about Kennedy not getting bashed by the media, it is obvious that she doesn`t read, watch, or even listen to the reporting.

There were no, repeat, no terrorists training in Iraq until after Bush invaded. He made it the number 1 training ground for terrorists for over five years according to all news agencies. look up "terrorist training grounds", and read about it. The recession in 2001-3 is referred to as a "relatively mild contraction in the North American economy." Normally such contractions last 9-12 months, not two years. That one was exacerbated by the Bush tax and deficit spending policies. There were still surpluses projected for years to come until he and the Republican congress took over. His so called "stimulus rebate" didn`t work then, and didn`t work last year, just made the deficit worse. Under his watch, our national debt tripled, I`ll give him credit for THAT!

Quoted from MSNBC - an extremely liberal news source..."As with much of the debate in the current presidential campaign, these numbers probably won’t change too many minds. The record clearly shows that the recession began on Bush’s watch, even though there were signs it was coming during the last months of the Clinton administration. Whether the outcome would have been different with a Democrat in the White House is really unknowable."
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http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/7089700/
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Surprisingly a liberal news source admits the economic slowdown began during the Clinton administration and it is unknown whether a democratic president following Clinton could have done any better. 9/11 did more damage to the economy than any president would have likely been able to fix.
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Iraq is not the number one terrorist training ground. Many are still coming in from countries such as Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan. After the troop surge, the number of terrorists in Iraq was significantly depleted when many returned to their home countries where they will no doubt seek other venues to attack coalition forces. Just because your name is "factcheck" doesn't mean your information is any more factual than anyone elses.

There were no terrorists in Iraq, now it is the number 1 training ground. His tax policies put us in deficits BEFORE 9-11. He condoned torture, and illegal wiretapping. History will not be kind to him because it will take decades to right what his presidency has done to our country, and our image in the world.

The Janesville Gazette and the liberal media should be ashamed of all of the slobbering over Obama. You should be more ashamed of the blatant disrespect President Bush has been shown. Jimmy Carter was the WORST American President of all time, and he was treated better and is venerated now by the media. President Bush led us after 9/11, kept another 9/11 from happening, went after the terrorists in two theaters, and tried to reform government. When the Congress undermined his economic reforms and created the Fannie and Freddie disasters which almost soley caused this recession, his tax cuts were blamed. Bush failed many tests, as have other great leaders.But leadership is not about opinion polls and approval ratings. If that were the case, Harry Truman would be rated a failure. History will revere President Bush, and you will owe him an apology. God bless and keep this wonderful country, and our next President.

"Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road
Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go"

Don't let the door hit you...on second thought, never mind...

If he doesn`t go after binLaden he will be a failure too1

Goodbye President Bush and thanks for keeping us safe! I hope Obama can do as good a job! Take the threats seriously and keep us safe please!

justsaynotomath...If/when you cut and paste comments from other places on the web you should at least credit where you are taking it from...even if it is only Wikipedia. It was fairly easy to tell you did it; the comment made was proper English and contained substance.

Whatdidyousay...just for the sake of discussion...and to make sure we are both on the same page...would you please define "liberal dirt bags"
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Would that be any one who doesn't agree with you? Or do you have a more specific definition?

Factcheck---"Bush made the statement that it was vital to get binLaden(Dec01), then in March 02 he said binLaden was "irrelevent, not to worry about him" What a clown!"
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If this makes Bush a clown what does Obama's comments mean?
In a presidential debate in October, he said: 'We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority.'
Now this week Barack Obama has claimed it is no longer necessary to kill Osama Bin Laden to win the war against al-Qaeda. the U.S. President-Elect said that simply keeping bin Laden holed up in a cave was enough to keep America safe. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...).
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So are they both clowns with the same idea?

American Dream Downpayment Act signed by President Froot Loop, passed by A Republican dominated house and a Senate that was 50-50 in 2003. And you say my facts are faulty?

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but Bush is a criminal, and a froot loop to boot!

Hey folks...Bush's reign is about to become history.
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And you know what they say about history...
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THERE'S NO FUTURE IN IT.

We`ll see if the Dems have the cajones to prosecute Bush/Cheney. They have both publically admitted what they did, condoning torture, illegal wiretapping, outing CIA operative. Should be good for about thirty years!

Democrats tried to re-regulate and the Republican congress would not bring it to a vote, even though they(Repubs) said during hearings that it was needed. Big lenders fired people for saying they were making bad loans because they were selling those loans and making money(on paper) and getting big bonuses. Both parties were responsible, but only one claims to be the party of de-regulation. There were no terrorists in Iraq until after we got there, then they started using it as a training ground. Bush made the statement that it was vital to get binLaden(Dec01), then in March 02 he said binLaden was "irrelevent, not to worry about him" What a clown!

factcheck, please check your facts. The economy is the rsult of democratic misteps and greed. The reason the housing situation is so bad because of the democrats "American Dream Act" gave people with bad credit that did not pay there bills mortgages; then high ranking dems raked in millions becuase they work for the lenders. Ask a vet what is going on in Iraq; and stop watching network news if you want to know what is really going on. Our county has been much worse off and we have survived.

"completely in control of the Iraqi people', plus a couple hundred thousand American boys and girls! When we leave, soon I hope, there will be a civil war, and the country will probably be taken by the Iran backed groups. The water and electrical are not back to where they were when we went in, even after our billions have poured in. We were lied to, and should not have gone there, now when we leave the people will pay the price again.

Mired in a swamp in Iraq factcheck? Iraq now is nearly in total control of the Iraqi people and a 100% handover is expected in the next few years. It is safer now than ever, markets are open again, people are walking the streets without worry again. If anything, Afghanistan is where the worry needs to be. Violence there has risen again and troop deaths there are increasing again. People need to get off the Iraq mindset of 2 years ago and realize that Iraq today is almost completely in the control of the Iraqi people.

Um, justsaynotomath, it doesn't matter who wins the popular vote, our government is set up so the winner of the electoral college wins the presidency..it's been that way for over 200 years.
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Bush didn't stop anyone from counting any votes. The Supreme Court voted 7-2 to stop the recount of the Florida ballots because it was in VIOLATION of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment. In a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that there was no alternative method to count the ballots in the time allotted. By that decisions it was decided that the Florida Supreme Court had violated Article 2, Section 1 Clause 2 of the Constitution. Everything was perfectly legal, Bush received more votes in Florida, and the 25 electoral votes were cast for him...does it get any more simple?

If the country was any worse off, we wouldn`t be here! Bush will be remembered as another Hoover, except he also is a war criminal. No reason to go to Iraq, torture, illegal wiretapping, killed our economy. The Supreme Court didn`t say, in 2000, that nothing illegal happened in the Florida election, they said irregularities occurred, but, in their opinion(5 of them anyway) not enough harm was done to justify continuing the re-counts. Ohio was another state that had "irregularities, in 00 and 04, after the head of the company that supplied the voting machines promised Bush would win. The guy that was going to testify about that one died in a plane crash a few weeks ago, after being warned about the safety of his plane.Even Gore can`t know what he would have done in Bush`s place, but at least we wouldn`t be mired in a swamp in Iraq!

There has been a lot of references to voter fraud; do some investigation you will find out there was a lot more done on behalf of Democrats than against them. Besides if Bush had not won the 2000 election; our country would be worst off. When Al Gore was asked how he would have handled 9/11 he responded: “… the first thing I would do is to see what we did to make them so angry at us…” What we did Mr. Gore was to have the gall to be democratic infidels. There would have been no war on terror and we would have been hit again and again and be a much weaker pacifistic nation.

Gore won the popular vote by more than 500,000. there is a movement to get rid of the electoral college, with states making a "compact". About a half dozen states have signed on already, hopefully more will soon. Whoever gets the most votes should win, just ask Al Franken!

Looking back, I'm looking forward to him saying goodbye!!

And if you are to say he did not "win" the first election, you are throwing everything this nation stands for right out the window. The election was won by Bush, certified by congress, and he became President by virtue of winning the electoral college - just like every other president!!

Wow, the idiocy of some people amazes me. Bush won the first election, he received the necessary electoral votes to win the election and became President of the United States. Just like in every other election, a joint session of congress met to certify the electoral votes. Of the few representatives of did object (most from the same bloc - the Congressional Black Caucus) to the final electoral college, NONE of the them could get sponsors from the senate therefore making the final vote tally stand - even Gore himself who at the time was president of the Senate as VP ruled each of the objections out of order because they couldn't get any cosponsors. Gore didn't even win his own state, and honestly, if you can't win the votes of the people you've represented previously - that says something about your leadership of people who know you as a politician.