One more "off topic", anyone who is into coupon savings and would love to join a website that is all about good deals and is a forum to participate in to find out where the latest great deal is, and ideas on how to use coupons to their fullest, email me, and I can refer you. It is AWESOME!!!! There is a free preview for the website (it is 12.00 per year, and WAY WORTH IT I PROMISE) on January 16, 17 and 18th. Check it out!! www.refundcents.com You can get a free password for those three days. FUN! There is a member on there that was on wife swap, and will be on this weeks wife swap. Her family is all about coupons and refunding. In this day and age, couponing can be equivelent to a part time job with the money you can shave off of your grocery bills. Just a suggestion to all of us strugglers. Make having to watch your pennies a game......I am not sure what night wife swap is on, I think Friday?? This is a true story....I just went shopping at Walgreens, and shopped according to their sales, and used coupons and I got 126.00 worth of THINGS I NEED for 5.00 out of pocket. This is just one example of how this website has taught me how to save money!!!!!

OH....and what about that man that popped his eyeball out for the second time and ate in down south in prison? HUH? Oh my gosh! I am so glad I never met this man! Ick!

Oh, and awhile ago I posted on here that you can go to the united way, Janesville, website and there is info on there about where you can buy the GM raffle tickets. They have been for sale for some time now, so I am not sure what is left or if they are still on sale. Good luck to all who buy one, there are some incredible prizes.

KLICK, SARAHB, etc...you guys are a hoot. I wish I would have been up to join in on your random comments...hehe. I would have loved to get something started about that story about the wife stabbing the husband in the shower...hehe. Now, let's just say, a couple who is divorcing, with children, and chooses to still reside in the same home, there was bound to be something happen. I am wondering what she was REALLY examining in the shower...hehe.

Cub Foods to close by mid March 2009

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CityofBelo...

And i'm going to bed, i'm a tired old man.

Yes i did now thats sick ,they killed 3 and the vet had to euthanize the other one .

Did you folks get a chance to read that story about the idiots who tortured the deer up north? It was a fast-moving forum, but the Gazette dumped it for an update that they moved to the State news area and then dropped the opportunity to comment.

I'm broke also but thought I would sell it if I won it. I probably would never be able to climb into it anyway. My legs are too short.

Sarah I'm so broke i can't pay attention .

Sarah i don't know ,but if i won their last SUV
i couldn't afford the taxes on it . and thats the truth .

What do the Kearns drive? two GM cars
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That explains it all. just kidding LOL

SarahB- I don't think so. There was something in the paper a while ago but I haven't heard anything on it since. I think it's great the proceeds will go for a good cause, however. Janesville will need it in the future, I think.

Have they started selling the raffle tickets on the last SUV built here?

What do the Kearns drive? two GM cars

I can start something about GM, lol. Lots of good economic value lost there, I'm afraid, and I have two volunteers who are already suffering. On the OTHER hand, the train that goes past my house nearly every night (on the south side, would you guess?) is practically silent now that GM is down... talk about your paradox! Bad for the community, great for my sleeping habits. =)

What do the Kearns drive?

Ihave two GM cars .

Ok now the only thing this thread is missing is a conversation about GM. Lets hear it....

I agree with you Gidget.

Accountability is SO cool. I just wish others would agree with me... =)

gazettefan ok i get it i'm a day late and a dollar short .

Right Gidget, that's what I meant. Society is just like another version of: the devil made me do it.

No, I understand what Gazettefan is saying. A lot of people blame society for what people are doing these days, instead of taking personal responsibility for their actions. And I think that while society definitely has SOME hand in it (by that I mean that times do change), I also think that people need to consider what they are doing and how they could do it better if there is a problem.

gazettefan that must be a private joke .

That darn SOCIETY is doing it again!!!

SarahB all i can suggest is don't read any posts ,i never watched the show but it was local and i was curious .

And if they got high on reefer, drove drunk, talked politics, and preached eternal damnation we'd be here forever!!!
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And we'd have a whole other group of people coming on here defending the pot smoker and drunk driver. After all they can't be held responsible for their actions any more than the Kerns can be held responsible for their children. They are all just poor souls with bad luck. They can't or won't take responsibility for themselves until they are forced to.

And if they got high on reefer, drove drunk, talked politics, and preached eternal damnation we'd be here forever!!!

I have to say, I don't watch TV anymore unless it's a DVD or VHS, but I LOVE watching the blogs on the Gazette Webpage. Some of them aren't worth paying attention to, but this is better entertainment than any TV show! Some of you ladies are really going at it- I don't think the intent of these blogs is for anyone to take personally the comments written or for anyone to write personal attacks. There seems to be a lot of that in this article, however, I wonder why this is such a personal topic for so many people?

e'ville housewife, now THAT was funny.

Klick: What is wrong with me? I am sick of this forum, think many of those posting are more rude than any child could be, and, yet I can't quit checking on the site. I did not watch the show because I did not want to watch the show. I have no connections to the family and only wish its members the best. But who are these people on here that just can't let the issue die??? Save me, klick!

As Dad would say the fir is going to fly.

I will check to see if I can watch this online. To see if they actually learned anything or were just put on a stupid reality show.

Oh, boy, here we go again.

Nurse4U --- Are you drinking or on drugs?

Or just out of your mind to make some outrageous comment about "second mom." You couldn't send me packing, I wouldn't interview for someone like you, a person who has this attitude that they aren't able to respect a caregiver for their kids who is competent. You sound condescending.

SO get off of your superior high horse. "I wouldn't appreciate you not knowing your place." You don't know jack about my ability to maintain professional boundaries.

The ability to procreate doesn't make one a decent parent. And an instant expert either.

As someone who has worked with kids over and over again, I have put in a lot more time with children than parents do.

BTW-What makes you think I'd want a nurse like you either?!!!!???

Can't pass for a mom???? LOL OMG if I had five bucks for every time someone presumed I was one, I could have retired at 30!!!! And no I wasn't even trying to be a "MOM" or a "second mom". Nurturing is second nature to me. The kids had their own moms, I got that and respected it.

Pity is I have known parents that haven't respected their kids.

Now, if these parents smoked, this thread would be good for about 500 more posts.

Yes, I know I missed it. Been busy. I plan on watching it on the internet. The article says the young girl hits others and is aggressive. At any rate, any of the behavoir these kids seem to portray, wouldn't be allowed in my house by my children or any others. Visitor's who act this way are not welcome in my home. And I am confident with my conclusion that these children act in a very disruptive way, or they would never have been on the show. The families they put on these shows are usually VERY dysfunctional. And the parents are usually either lazy or don't have spines.

foo..Day late or should I say 5 days.They were on Friday night.(1-9-09) By the way who did the kids hit ?

NURSE4U.......yes, getting help is what these parents, and children need, but as far as I am concerned, contacting the show was just another example of laziness. THey should be attending counseling and parenting classes, but that would be too hard, they would much rather have someone COME to THEM....and then continue to blame OTHERS.

First of all, I am normally a very open minded person, and don't take the responsibility of judging others, but I MUST comment on this. MR. AND MRS. KERNS...first of all, get over it. What did you think you were just going to dress cute, and smile nice at the camera and people were going to FEEL SORRY FOR YOU? Although, I haven't seen your show yet, I am quite confident to say that your children's bahavoir (no "child" is bad) must be pretty bad if they chose you to be on the show in the first place, and children's behavoir is representative of their parents. Obviously, you don't have the drive to dicipline your children, and pretty much let them run YOUR life. So, you have no place on the pity potty as far as I am concerned. I can tell you right now....my children would NEVER even begin to think they would get away with hitting someone...just for starters. So, yes, I pretty much believe your parenting skills are that of a lazy parent's, and your children's behavoir are proof of that. OH. I can't wait to see this show! And I am quite sure that other people that know you, know how your children are....I am sure they don't keep their misbehaving behind your closed doors....so people who know you are not going to see something they don't already know. I can guarentee you that.

nannylisa-One, I am NOT a nanny. Second, I am a Mother of four beautiful children.
With that being said, it just seemed to me that you were trying to put your credentials out there to show us you were the best nanny..Which I thought it was amusing. You have never posted before so I thought it was ironic that you jumped on this story.
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I am just stating that I would send you packing if you were my nanny-because you would NEVER be my kids second "Mom." As a mother, I would not appreciate you not knowing your place.
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There are boundaries in any employment situation. I could not pass for a doctor and you can not pass as Mom. No matter how great you are.

I think this is a fine example of why some species devour their young. I am not speaking of the children in this story, but their parents. I've never seen such clueless, and lazy, yes lazy adults in my life. They were obviously way too young to reproduce. I hope the nanny helped them overcome some of this.

Well, Klick, the family asked for the controversy by putting themselves "out there", so to speak.

Go ahead, momof2boys, now you can have the last word you so desperately need to have.

Klick: well said!!!

I think posters should stop with the hurtfull posts, the Kerns family has been beat up enough.

What is ats?? Whatever!! You win, you win, you win.

God Bless the Kerns family!! You have a beautiful family and your kids will grow up to be just fine. Stay and think positive and you can get through anything!

I have faith in them too. I just don't like what they did to their kids by putting them on tv. Opinions are like @@@@@@@s everyone has one including you. I allow you to have yours, but you have to bash me for having mine.

anonomouse: whatever! Talk about growing up. Go pick on someone else if that is what makes you feel good. I have faith in the Kerns family and have only been positive about them.

Okay, folks, the Gazette needs this forum space for a new story. It's time to let this issue fade. Go home and hug your own kids. Thanks for participating. Drive safely.

At the end of the day/show....WHY does it matter WHAT kind of help they got ?? They got help in the way they as a family found fit.May not work for some but seems it has worked for them ! Does it make you LOOK better as a parent to see others short comings !(joke)

The family will be fine and you are the one who needs help if you think what the family did was acceptable. You also need help because you have to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you. Everyones entitled to an opinion. Adults discuss things. If you can't do that like a civil person without attacks you need to stop talking to adults.

You win!! you just proved the point that you need help. Hurry go get some help and leave this family be.

Keyboard slip.sorry

Thanks for proving my point about keeping this going. You are one of the people here who was clamoring for this to die down. Way to go attacking me and keeping this going. Way to prove my point.By the way grow up. I you have an opinion that I'm on a high horse because I have an opinion look in the mirror you are here as much as me. Pot meet kettle.

Thanks for pointing my point about yu.

anonomouse, you are acting like you are all high and mighty on here, but guess what, you don't know everything. I don't know this family personally either. I am not family or a family friend FYI. I know the area that they live in that is about it. One thing I do know is I won't stoop to your level and judge their choices. Once again, Kerns family. Hang in there. May God bless you!

It is people like you and the others on here that just don't let things go. Let it go!

Anonomouse, also I think you are someone that may needs some professional help. re-read your statement here- (They are also angering people by flaming them to the point people will continue to come in and defend themselves.So if you really care about the Kerns stop acting condescendingly to the people who post here and this issue may just die down and fade away.)

No Nanny4u and others,

By stating my occupation in the first place, I opened of myself up to backlash by people here who have issues with nannies (Like SDerdley and IHAVEALIFE), Jo Frost for putting down their, or parents that use them. You want to think we are all pretentious. That we don't really get how rough it is. So you are the ones with THE AXE TO GRIND with me. And any others here should not be on the pity the Kerns Bandwagon.

For all you know I could have been some young knowitall, because they do exist. The reality is I'm old enough to be the grandmother of this kids, and possibly old enough to be the parent of some of the posters here. And I can say some of you don't sound like you are of an older generation.

I wouldn't do SuperNanny's role, the premise of the show is wrong. And there are times I watch some of the methods and think a step here and there on processes are missing. But her books are best sellers, and I do believe she is helping people.

Would if it made a difference if I called myself a teacherlisa instead, or would have there been some here ripping into me because I was doing my job of educating their disrespectful kids.

This article is biased, they didn't talk to anyone from the show. It makes the Kerns out to be the victims. It's reality TV and has been from the start.

Yes, they should have taken what they learned and let the rest go, and kept their mouths closed. Isn't that what we are all supposed to do in life, instead of making more excuses for our mistakes on national TV. They let their children be exploited. Instead of looking for many other private ways to make improvements in their lives.

Before I'm ripped into for sharing an opposing view again --- I want the poster to state whether or not they would have applied to be on the show excluding what they know about this segment of it. If they wouldn't have been on the show, where they went to get help in parenting, or if they used common sense.

Actually nevermind, I'm done with this. Live in your little small minded world.

I am Not a friend of the family, just some FYI.

Quick reminder-The more the friends of the family post for people to stop the more people will post. I hope they know that. They are bringing more attention to it by defending the parents poor choice by flaming people here than they would be if they just kept quiet and let it die down.The family friends are bringing more attention to this than need be. They are also angering people by flaming them to the point people will continue to come in and defend themselves.

So if you really care about the Kerns stop acting condescendingly to the people who post here and this issue may just die down and fade away.

The spotlight has gone out. Let it be.

Let it go people. Move on and find someone else to pick on. Kerns family, ignore the negative comments, the could haves and should haves posted here. Take what you have learned and follow through. I have faith in you and may God be with you every step of the way!!

Gilly- The comment about Wisconsin being full of bugs was funny..The show was taped I think in October? Remember we get all those nasty asian beetles and stinkbugs at that time of year...

Kids will be kids, but it is a parents responsibility to teach them rules and protect them. The kids didn't deserve this. I hope they have a good laugh at this MANY years down the road. The kids are still young and the parents (while they didn't make the best choice about going on a show) will survive. Parenting is a HARD job but it also has its rewards. I wish them the best. I'm off to bed now, long day tomorrow, just didn't want to end this on a sour note. But the parents did put this in the spot light so everyone has a right to post their opinion even the ones who are close to the family and want this all to go away. The more they post for people to stop the more people will post. I hope they know that. They are bringing more attention to it by defending the parents poor choice by flaming people here than they would be if they just kept quiet and let it die down.

anonomouse- ??? Not sure what you mean since my post to nannylisa didn't state what you wrote?

Kids will be kids..I know my kids have done things.. I have been shocked & embarrassed a few times myself, but you know what? The Kerns will look back on this and laugh. It is a learning experience. For all the bad rap the show has gotten, well, I think they have good pointers for parents to use.
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JMO, The Kerns' children were not "horrible."

Nurse4U-Nanny isn't putting these parents down for asking for help and no one here thinks they are perfect or that their children are perfect. The main issue in a nut shell is how the parents went about getting the help. They put their personal family business up on a reality show expecting help from the show and sympathy from the community. The show spends 2 weeks with these families. These types of problems can't be solved in 2 weeks let alone by going on a show where the hostess is notorious for being rude and insensitive. I'm sure we all hope the best for this family. I'm sure they will be fine if the follow the "common sense" suggestions provided and seek more appropriate help in the future should they need it. I think we all were shocked that someone would invite this circus into their homes to have their young children ridiculed..

Sorry, I meant "their" not "there." Oops, my bad. LOL

nannylisa- I am confused-you seem to be putting down the Kerns for asking for assistance from Nanny Jo, but correct me if I am wrong, you are a nanny? Are you upset because you aren't known as THE SuperNanny?
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You don't see everyone on here parading there achievements..what are you trying to prove?

No, momof2boys, my kids aren't perfect, they are great kids, but not perfect.
I'll tell you this, I would never subject them to ridicule (childhood is hard enough) by airing our family problems on national television.
This is a forum, again, for people to put their opinions, which we all are allowed to have.
I could care less if I know this family or not. If I did, I would have begged them to get actual "professional" help for their family.

Anonomous -
Well said! You have profiled the exact reason why i refuse to school my children outside of the home. Why should my kids education suffer because of some over-sugared, under-parented brats usurping all the (extremely limited) teaching resources??
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BTW - To whoever said Mom is hot, good for you - Lots of moms need to hear that they are hot. She was a very beautiful woman in another life. Now, i think she looks so gaunt she could fall over and die any moment. If i were running after those kids - I'd look that way, too :)

Nanny I wouldn't waste anymore time trying to get through to these people they have their minds made up and they think what this mother did by putting her business tv is a good thing. Both of us disagree and try to offer more appropriate avenues and we are attacked and misquoted. Time to let the people with the little minds play by themselves they are too old and too pig headed to learn to take responsibility for themselves or their children. All I can say is they are one of the reasons society is in such dire straights and the main reason children don't learn what they should in school. How can a teacher teach a lesson when they have to parent unruly kids who have these types of parents. Whats sad is the children who's parents do parent are missing out on an education while their classmates are being parented.

Goosefraba everybody.

What does that mean?

You are coming across as cynical, and I just responded.

Lets all give her a hand.Sounds like you also need a pat on the back.Please !!!!! Self taught nanny !

I Have A Life,

No I don't no more because I am a nanny, but because I have lived a life you probably couldn't imagine.

I am one of 10 children who grew up on a farm in Green Lake County Wisconsin. My parents were poor but they valued the work ethic, faith, family, education, and the responsibility of raising a family. They won an award from my school district's teacher association for their commitment to their children's schooling. 9 out of 10 of my siblings have two year or 4 year college degrees. We got them through scholarships, student loans, and grants.

I have never received food stamps, or collected unemployment in my life. I go to church, I have won community service awards, I participate in cancer fundraisers and other charitable causes.

I have over 20 nieces and nephews. Countless cousins, aunts, and uncles.

My family has served in our military and some serve in law enforcement here in the Badger State. And I know how fragile this is because one of their fellow officers was killed in the line of duty a few years ago.

I have been in the nanny in home of a family where the father came home one day and told me his wife just died, there was no time to be in shock, three young kids needed me to keep my cool. Tell me I Have A Life, could you do something like that?

I have since worked with other children in grief situations, have worked at bereavement camp for children too.

I have worked in homes of messy divorces, where a parent violated a restraining order on my watch, and I needed to call 911 on her in front of her children to avoid an Amber Alert scenario.

Oh, and I have educated myself on many other child care situations and have taught community arts programs for kids.

I have had to dive into a pool to save a drowning kid, and have done time in ER with broken bones, and cuts requiring stitches.

I have watched my father die of cancer, and have buried a sister already.

I am self made and proud of it. But I come from a family that expects it of me.

Parenting is not easy, but it's not rocket science.

I am not bitter. I informed, and it's not hard to be informed.

I don't get people who make poor choices like going on a reality TV show and then want to be worried about how they will look. ---- As a nanny, I wouldn't want my charges negatively labeled in front of national television. Why would a parent in their right mind do this to their kids?

ANSWER THAT besides oh they wanted help. Get real.

nanny...You just sound like you know more than parents because you are a nanny.JMO Tell us how you really feel !

+1 for Nanny :)

Snerdley,
I should have backed away yesterday.

My mistake to forget Mark Twain's words:
Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

Yes, cubfan48, mom is very lean. I wonder what state she's from.

Snerdley & Nikkiz242001: KUDOS to both of your comments!!!

Exactly Nikkiz24200, The unrelenting and shrill judgement is bad enough, but what is truly disturbing is that there are those who are using this forum to grind a huge AXE... and I don't think it's very difficult to figure out who they are. You keep hearing the same points being belabored over, and over, and over again... Like they want to beat people over the head with their big, bad talking points stick until skulls are cracked causing one to finally submit and "get" their point of view. It kinda boarders on the psychotic.

I think everyone here can agree they themselves aren't perfect parents with perfect kids, I think the big issue about this family is that they choose to put their family on the national spotlight and then not want anyone to comment. Lets hope they have learned from the experience and seek more appropirate and more private help for the sake of their children if they need it in the future.

I applaud the Kearns for seeking the help they need, but do question why they would go on national t.v.? The sheer presence of the crew would have been an intrusion on their children alone.
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I did watch the show, and am concerned about the common sense that seemed to be lacking. One of the twins rips down the driveway and into the road on his skateboard, and the mom just hollers..."do you know if you do that, you're going to get hit by a car." What? Or the kids running in and out of the neighbors yard and hitting her in her in the stomach while she's pregnant is more than a little revolting.
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Again, I will admit that parenting is very hard, but it is the most important thing you will do. I think the Kearns learned from the show...especially during the "time-out" portion. Good luck and stick with what you learned.

Here is how a view this. The mom has posted here, and chances are she went on to the SuperNanny site to apply for the job. If a person has the capability to do all this. Mind you, the application for that show is 7 pages long. Then why didn't she just find an online search engine and look up parenting ideas.

They are all over. I have used the internet all the time for several years for this purpose. It's free and private.

Ok... just my two cents worth here...
First off, I did not watch this episode, I've seen the show before and its probably safe to assume, it followed their standard format. Parents with out of control children, due to lack of authority, patience and consistency. Am I right?

According to this article, the parents need to learn parenting skills. Its easier said than done, to apply common sense, if you were raised with none.

Children need consistency, set rules, a calm environment and guidance. (Fyi... I myself failed on many of these points at one time or another with my own 2 children) That said, the Kerns have already set the tone in the house, from years of failure. Its not impossible to turn around, they will just need diligence and consistency.

If they feel they could benefit from parenting classes, they should definitely attend some. I doubt this TV show did much more than entertain... but hopefully they are now aware it is not their children's fault, they are "little pistols", its their fault as parents for letting the situation escalate to the level it is at now.

Just my opinion as a grandmother.... (and again, I failed on many levels with my own children, hindsight is 20/20, you know!)

Parenting is Not Rocket Science! - It is common sense. It's cause and effect. ---- Am I saying it's easy, NEVER! --- I have worked for single parent (many who were because of a death) --- it meant I was the one being the fulltime "MOM" and I lived in so even when I was supposed to be off on evenings and weekends I knew what it was like to be alone with kids and how it wasn't easy, so I continued to pitch.

As a nanny, I can never hit a kid, I can't lose it and use foul language or say something verbally abusive. Not only would kiss the job good bye but my reputation as well.

If a parent tells themselves "I can't" or "I don't know how" or "I don't want to" discipline my kid, that's a copout. I get that they don't have experience with children, but you take from your own childhood what worked and what didn't. OR, if you are smart enough to get through high school you make the connection gee I beat I can learn about this too. Please, I have been at store checkout lines I've seen the little parenting books a person can get. I've seen headlines at all the mainstream women's magazines regarding childrearing. (I've bought some too.)

Wisconsin, last time I checked was in the middle of the USA, it's considered an "Education State." It's not Siberia!!! How in all this time of reality TV shows did this family miss any conversation on how reality TV shows can be staged.

Yes, people are judging both ways all the time. As a nanny, I have been with a few bratty kids beyond my control, and they got from others. (Woo-hoo). I also though was a full time nanny for TWO sets of twins (in the same home) they were dealing with an addiction of the mom, her mental health issues, lack of presence in their lives, and parent's divorce. A TON of work on my part ---- but guess what when we went out in public constant compliments on how well they were behaved. A favorable judging. --- I personally can always sense when some one is forming a silent opinion of me when in public with children. And there are times I go nuts seeing an out of control kid in a store.

But this family choose to put themselves in front of a camera on TV --- hello when you decide to do that you enter the world of reviews and criticism. She said point blank in this interview she worried about how their family will appear on television. If she watched the show, how did she think it was going to be different from others?

By doing this interview with the paper, she drew more attention to them.

It's not a question of them getting help.. bravo for them!
What I first commented about was that in this article mom says that the show didn't help them..and what Jo offered was common sense stuff..
Then mom comes back to say it was something they will never forget ...I believe she said priceless..

You can't have it both ways..

wow i cannot beleive all of these people have the right to sit here a judge this family! do you ever stop to think of how many times you all see naughty kids in public and think to yourselves "wow something should be done with that kid?" WELL GUESS WHAT THIS FAMILY DID IT! and it probably wasnt easy to air their dirty laundry on television but i bet they were thinkin the outcome is going to outwiegh the critisism in the publics eye!!! atleast they recongized their childrens problems and got help instead of ignoring it!!!

I apologize for my last snippy remark. I didn't mean for that to be to everyone on here.
It just frustrates me how some people make negative remarks about other people that they don't even know. They say they don't have anything better to do because it is cold outside and there is nothing on TV. I believe this family has learned alot from this experience. The good and the bad. I have faith in them and believe that what they need is support and not all the negative.

Nobody else is saying they are perfect. But others seem more inclined to take responsibility.

Where is it in this article any real ownership by the family of their own mistakes?

There are some on here just want to focus on supporting them, and bashing the parenting suggestions/delivery and well it's sounding a tad enabling. This does not bring about solutions. Yes everybody should hang in there and hold their head high, but no until the parents can say okay well yeah we did agree to this, I'm not buying their side of the story.

I've been a nanny for people like this, and it's hard!!!

Momof2boys, that last remark got a little snippy at the end, did it not?
I don't believe that the issue is that the rest of us have perfectly behaved children thanks to a spotless parenting record;
It's just that we accept accountability for our failings, instead of simply giving up. because [parenting] is just so darn difficult.
Thats the whole point -
You work every hour of every day to make sure that your kids turn out, at the very least, just a little bit better than you did.
We take it one day at a time, and we can all hope that the Kerns family learned that important lesson!
Let them take away something positive from the whole experiance.

Snerdley, very well said!!!!

Mikki,(It always amazes me when people get on here, claiming about other people posting, when they're doing the same thing.)

I am talking about all the negative posting. Read all of my posts, I have not said 1 negative thing. Do all of you know this family personally? No, probably not! What you know is what you saw in about a 1/2 hour footage on Supernanny.
Oh that is right, all of you posting negative comments back and forth are the perfect parents and have perfect children.

No, I'm not related in any way to the Kearns... be serious. But if they are reading these posts, I would like to say to them to keep your head up. It's clear you love your kids and it's tough being parents cause it's not something you're ever formally taught to do. It's more like on the job training. And believe me, NOBODY on this board is a perfect parent (although, you might get the impression otherwise) and that being said, I don't think anyone has a legitimate right to judge you so harshly. And while I'm sure you learned something of value from this experience, I say take what you find constructive and leave the rest that doesn't serve you (only you would know what that is). God bless your beautiful family and your bright future.

The mother is getting the attention she wanted its just not the type of attention she expected.

We HAVE lives, it's just cold outside, nothing is good on tv, and if we want to post about a news story, we will.
(It always amazes me when people get on here, claiming about other people posting, when they're doing the same thing.)
Again, if this family didn't want the attention, they shouldn't have aired their problems on a major television network.

Come on people, have a heart and get a life. I can't believe people are still posting negative remarks on here about this family. Yes, it was on national TV. So what. People get over it. May God bless this family. Good luck with what you have learned and ignore all the negative posts.

i want to know what the kerns family expected to get out of this? they obviously thought they needed help with the kids, or they wouldnt have applied to be on the show. Also the mother said she got common sense techniques from super nanny, then is it fair to say that when it comes to parenting they had no common sense? I applaud this family for the effort they made trying to help their children become civilized little children, but lets not all forget that they are kids and kids are hyper and can be disrespectful and rude but in the end they are led by example. You applied to be on the show, which means that you needed there help or just wanted to be on tv, whichever the reason YOU applied for the show, they didnt seek you out. So be respectful of the show and the message it is trying to send, all it takes to be a good parent is common sense, love and the idea that you will get through. Maybe in the end you were the one that needed super nanny because your kids learn from you. You talk so down about how they invaded your home, and they got your kids wound up, but is it really invading when you INVITE them into your home?

Warm -
I didn't see your initial comment;
I joined this posting free-for-all after catching the show by coincidence and running into this forum the same way.
Just to clarify, are you suggesting that Shannon's weight issue is that she is skin and bones? Not overweight like people are attacking you for?

mamaotwo, um sorry, nope.
I was making a point that if you have kids, you teach them how to behave properly.
Then, if you had paid attention to other posts, you would have seen that PROFESSIONAL psychologists are suited to assist children and families.
Obviously you are close to this family and agree with the circus. Whatever!
LOL

snerdly.. you must be out to lunch!
Jo NEEDED to be blatant with these parents! The kids safety depended on it..
I agree with the person that said they needed to put locks at the top of the front door..and maybe a lock on the sliding door..
It's not a cultural thing!
and just because you think the neighbors allow that sort of thing..how do you know..you must be Kerns in disguise! The neighbors definitely gave the impression that they didn't want the kids over uninvited.. The lady next door even had a fence..remember the boys going OVER it?
and if the boys had gotten hurt, then the Kern's would sue.. I NEVER allow anyone in my yard without permission, and I would NEVER want kids playing on my equipment when I am not home!
These parents need to get a life and a clue about parenting..Oh wait they will wait til they start school and then they will be identified as special ed kids for ADHD, or EBD
then it will be the school's problem!

No, you are the one missing the points of several on here. From the comments about Simon to the one made from the person who knew this mom from 12 years of classes.

I am not saying she is perfect but her approach has not been any secret either. Yes, I know as a nanny I watch the show with a passing interest. Do I learn much from her, NO! I have known about incentive charts from my own childhood teachers and I am in 40s and I grew in Wisconsin too, so I know I am not unique in my exposure to them.

If the parents really wanted just parenting advise they would do what MOST Americans do --- they'd go online and look up ideas. They'd buy a book (Do you have any idea how many are out there!), they take classes, they talk to people who they observe getting it, they would subscribe to magazines ---- they don't go on a reality TV show! That has been in syndication where they can see what the format is like and that there is the remote possibility that the star of the show may yell at them. Or put them down. She has two weeks - that's it. To try and undo all the bad habits with them. NOT A LOT OF TIME!

The dog comment was theater, and she has made similar comments in the past. And newsflash teachers, coaches, nannies, etc. make similar comments about children all the time. AND, GEE, I've heard parents do the same too.

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT ---- they went on this show. Their choice, their problem.

Funny, I was going to ask if you were related to Jo based on your rabid, militant defense of her tactics. That, or you work for this show in some capacity. You apparently aren't getting what I'm saying because you appear to have a rather inflexible attitude about the absolute correctness of your opinion... that's fine. However, since you seem to be so fond of throwing out links to other websites, why not follow this one. There you can read about how this woman has behaved with another family inappropriately and how I'm not the only one who has found this woman to be out of line. Also, may be the family in Evansville would have had a better rapport with the nanny if she had not been so punative and hostile towards THEM. It's a two way street. You can't just bust in someone's home, even at their request, after comparing their children to dogs, start taking over and belittling them as parents because you're the "EXPERT." I would think you would try to build up their confidence and establish a workable relationship with them first. Which is something she appears to not have a problem doing with her own people. It would appear to me she has a problem with Americans, but not with our money apparently.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/supernanny/i...

After attending classes for 12 years with the mother featured on Supernanny, I can say with absolute certainty that self-absorbed individuals rarely make passable parents.
I guess I just don't understand - If they were willing to put in the work in the first place they wouldn't have sought out a quick fix in the end.
How very unfortunate that for whatever (probably financial) gain the Kerns family was willing to broadcast their indolent parenting on national broadcast television.
Why debase yourself? Just stand up to the challenges of child-rearing like the rest of us?
The kids will benefit greatly when their parents grow up themselves.

Jo's job isn't to come to people's houses and make them feel good. Sometimes people have to be talked to harshly so they will listen.

nannylisa,_ I agree about the riding in the street thing.... I think a bad part about how mom handled the skateboard in the street is that she just so sweetly said "honey please dont' ride in the street... you might get hurt." Are you kidding me? I would be frustrated if I were Jo... and I agree Brits can be like that ( sheesh look at Simon Cowell) And I just think she is shooting strait instead of putting honey all over the truth. I think that's her job isn't it!?

anonomouse I totally agree! I believe to not discipline your child is actually not being loving to them. And before naughty mat time... well I have to take a deep breath because it is just as hard for me to put her there as it is for her to be there.

Many years ago, my BIL, in his cop work uniform, had to warn neighbors young sons to not play with riding toys and run around so close to the street. Less than two weeks later, they forget his warning, only this time their two year old sister followed them and got hit by car. My BIL was one of the first responders and had EMT medic training from Vietnam. The little girl died in his arms on the way to the hospital.
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This is so sad but its one of the consequences of not parenting your children. I wonder if the family took responsibility for their actions or found someone else to blame. Its too bad your BIL had to deal with this I'm sure it was an experience that upsets him to this day.

good Post!!!

My not so perfect child acted up right before New Years Eve. She had plans to go out, but she didn't because of her behavior. I worked overtime that week would it have been easier to just let her go then deal with her pouting? Yes but I am her parent and I dealt with it. Thats what parents do. I didn't need to go on tv for someone to tell me what to do. I have made mistakes in parenting, I think we all have. This family hasn't made any mistakes because they haven't parented. Just having a child and letting it run wild is not the sign of a parent. Also the issue of going on TV was more about the young mom wanting to be on TV then what's in the best interest of her children IMO. There are local resources where the children wouldn't have been put on the spot that would have been far more effective. And if everyone thinks back to school and their class mates who had "cool" parents, look up what happened to them. I did that recently we had three kids who's parents just let them run around. Where are they 20 years later? One is missing so far gone on drugs the parents don't know where he is, The second is in jail and the third has 3 kids that are causing the same problems in the school my kids go to.

Ok, did anyone notice that this mom didn't really want help?! She said, I know the time out technique won't work but I will do it to show Super Nanny that I'm trying. She failed before she started! And how about the threat to take bikes away.... Mom thought she knew better than Jo and if she felt that way why did she apply? I bet the house is still the same as before Jo came. I use Jo's techniques and I have a very well behaved 2 1/2 year old. They do work!

We don't know what went on behind the scenes and from what I saw in this episode in particular there was a time when she was leaving during the course of the week were they weren't polite about seeing her to the door. And it was raining, one would think they would double check to make sure porch lights were one. Oh but you won't comment on that. What are you, related to the family?

And this Britishness is part of her "character" (they can be known for this) as it is with the nannies on Nanny 911. The formula must be working.

Gee what are we supposed to do "hold hands and let's all be friends."

What turned me off from this family --- is the kid riding the skateboard in the street, he's possibly done it before.

Here is a real story.

Many years ago, my BIL, in his cop work uniform, had to warn neighbors young sons to not play with riding toys and run around so close to the street. Less than two weeks later, they forget his warning, only this time their two year old sister followed them and got hit by car. My BIL was one of the first responders and had EMT medic training from Vietnam. The little girl died in his arms on the way to the hospital.

See those that parent get what Jo is saying, and really don't care about how the message is delivered to people who are reluctant.

These people wanted 15 minutes of fame, that is the bottom line!!!! She wanted to get on the show for a year. She wanted sugarcoated answers and validation. She knew she wasn't going to look good on the show and came out with this interview and wants to save face.

SuperNanny can only exist as long as there are families applying to be on the show.

It's not whinning. It's an observation, and try to learn the difference before you attack people. It's my opinion based on the differences I have seen from the shows filmed here and in UK (believe me the kids are just as obnoxious over there) that she (jo) isn't nearly as rude with the brits (perhaps because she is one?). On the contrary, she is much more supportive to the parents when teaching skills. And yes, I think she could benefit from learning how interact with a culture different from her own. She can be pretty offensive at times. I can certainly see where the mom in this article is coming from about her.

Cultural Sensitivity!
What whining.

A lot of these parents could use some training in manners as well. Gee maybe if they used them, there wouldn't be a need for the show.

She doesn't have to have the perfect idea that suits each family, that's not possible NO TWO FAMILIES are ALIKE. The show is meant to be educational and if she did the same thing all the time what is the point of having new episodes.

But then again look at how the long these shows have been airing, obvious some people need a ton of bricks dropped on their heads.

Whether the child hit or not is not the point. The point is an attempt was made to hit an adult. Look at that total picture, I would not kids that could do that around my kids. I would be frustrated if it was my neighbors.

The fact that didn't apologize and the kids were rude when the good byes were done says no manners are being taught in that house.

Poor Parents --- BS. It's poor parenting choices resulting in POOR TEACHERS and NEIGHBORS.

Here is another family's experience with show.

http://www.claremont-courier.com/pages/T...

Yeah, whatever. I just think that Jo's flag system to correct this preceived "problem" was kinda lame. Also, it's interesting to note that this nanny is rather verbally abusive and rude when dealing with the American families. Funny though when I have watched any of the shows she has filmed in the UK with her countrymen she is much more supportive and nowhere near as nasty... Yeah, I'd say some cultural sensitivity training is highly in order for this dame.

Someone please explain what motivation someone has for subjecting their family to this kind of public humiliation?

Was there compensation involved?

Super Nanny does intentionally show the parents and children's bad behavior. That is the draw of the show and how the show continues to make a profit and anyone who has watched the show should know that and think about that before inviting the national TV show into their house. These kids are cute and I do hope the best for the family. I just hope they follow the recommendations they were given and look for more appropriate help should they need it in the future. Parenting is hard but it must be done.

nannylisa....The neighbor said....He TIRED to hit me in the belly and you can see that i'm pregnant....camera zooms in on belly.

these children get the attitude from their parents the children learn from their parents example and the friends of these parents. This is just telling me that the Kearns did not put boundrys for their children and they did not enforce the Rules. You have to deal with the repurcussions of going on T.V. you made yourselves look Bad nobody did it but you so Shame on you.

snerdley? What?

No the kids hit a pregnant adult neighbor. I wouldn't want them on my property or in my garage either and I'm not from across the pond, I'm from Wisconsin!!!!

They are liability issues. And if you think it is okay, invite them over to your house!

Sometimes I think "Super Nanny" needs some cultural sensitivity training. Who in the H is she to decide that the kids in the neighborhood can't go onto another families property? Seems like that's the culture there in that neighborhood. If people had a problem with it, I'm sure they would have figured it out for themselves quite some time ago. I like Jo, but I think she gets a little too big for her britches at times.

OK, evansvillehousewife, this'll be the last post re: your overreaction (unless you decide to continue it).

I do you the courtesy of reading your posts, where does the idea of "devotion" come from?!

My first post wasn't totally out of the blue and off point. You present yourself as someone prominent in Evansville. I asked a reasonable question.

My last "suggestion" followed reasonably from your crazy posts.

Your low-brow stalker comment belies your high-brow affectation with the blather about expensive wines (as does your chronic theme of degradation). If I recall correctly, last year you were accused of actually stalking another poster by driving by that person's house in Evansville. I also recall that in your defense I said that Evansville is a small town and it was probably just a coincidence.

Sounds like the mixed fumes of horse dung and sour Beaujolais has a toxic effect on you thinking.

This family needs to get the children more involved and teach them responsibilities. Let them help do the dishes, clean up, set the table and learn to count things,bake cookies and let them know they are needed to make a family atmosphere. Give them praise when they do a good job and teach them right from wrong. You'll be surprised how well behaved they will become. Give them kisses and hugs and tell them you love them.

Heh..I have an idea... how about instead of Super Nanny the kids on this show get sent to the Amish? I have never seen an Amish child misbehave or even shout, they must have pretty effective discipline methods..

The thought of them being locked in the bedroom shocked me at first. But is it better to lock these out of control kids in the bedroom and get five minutes to yourself so you as a parent can calm down and not BEAT the kid. Its clear they could not just put these boys in their room and they would stay there. My kids at that age could be naughty but never like that. I would not tolerate it. How ever we installed locks at the top of the doors where the kids could not reach so we could lock them in, the house. My neighbor does the same thing. Because young kids if they decide to go out, some times they just do with out thinking as we saw last night. So before I would have reversed the lock on the bedroom, I would have installed high locks on the doors to keep the kids inside. So they are not out side in the neighbors yard, garage or by that water. So you can at least say they are in the house. Hopefully mom and dad will stick to the strict rules, or Evansville school district,, here they come.

rims asked: have you ever driven out along sixth in the last two years after rain, not a heavy rain , just rain.

Actually, no, I've never driven along 6th. I didn't know it got so deep. That's alarming. That's scary as heck, I'd want a fence.

Not to mention some type of mosquito prevention!!!

gazettefan dreamily typed with misty eyes: compare the adjectival and emotionality of your posts with mine, then think again about who has the inordinate attention here.

Fact: Unlike you, I have no desire to pour over your posts with such devotion as you apparently do mine.

Fact: You posted about me totally out of the blue, with no provocation.

Fact: You strayed from the topic at hand, admitted you posted about me out of pure "curiousity."

Your last suggestion is so revolting I can't even copy and paste it. You show all the signs of being a stalker. You are creepy beyond belief.

This discussion is over and done. If you want to claim a little internet victory dance, by all means put your dancing shoes on.

Nannylisa you are so right!
Those parents made idle threats left and right..and locking them in their room? Social services should have been called!
It's terrible how the kids ran to the neighbor's without permission.. Those boys running out of the house.. and to not have a routine? No bedtime? Kids NEED structure, and a bedtime..
I hate to say it but sometimes kids need a swat on the butt and be told NO!
With mom's attitude in the article, I doubt she will stick to it..

evansvillehousewife- have you ever driven out along sixth in the last two years after rain, not a heavy rain , just rain. That area floods like crazy and its not just a few inches. The city of Evansville recently refused to put a fence around the retaining pond at sixth and vision. That gets to be very deep, 2-4 feet and over flows into the house that sits right next to it back yard. Parents have to watch their kids but it only takes a few seconds for a child to escape and tragedy strikes. IT can happen anywhere, to any family.

evansvillehousewife, compare the adjectival and emotionality of your posts with mine, then think again about who has the inordinate attention here. It was as though my curious post tapped into your personal deep-seated wellsprings of tumultuous desires.

pat- I see drainage ditches in Madison and Oregon as well, with no fences- I think they are too shallow to pose a common danger, but yes, a fence would be a good idea. I agree, it only takes a few inches to drown a toddler. The best fence would be that mother paying attention.

nannylisa..yes, yes and yes, you're right! I also find it interesting that you were lucky enough to grow up in a large family and learned about parenting from your PARENTS.... most children today grow up with one sibling and the "It's all about ME" mentality. I notice that todays' families consist of half the number of kids but three times the number of toys. Yet, they're ungrateful, cynical, and sulen.

gazettefan giggled, cackled, and tapped out: "A little curiosity caused evansvillehousewife to get on her high horse again!!!"

A little curiosity, coupled with ignorance, cruelty, and schadenfreude caused you to get on your low pony again! Congrats on your petty little Internets victory!

Although, I find it touching that after all this time you're still obsessed with me....sorry, I love my husband very much and you're not fit to lick the soles of his boots.

I am a professional nanny from Wisconsin, and I began in this career 6 weeks before my 18th birthday. I have also been a nanny for two sets of toddler twins.

I don't have a formal child care degree, however I did take a few classes in high school and child. Plus I have read newspapers, magazines, books, and websites. I don't adhere to one philosophy --- but take what works from they all. I also grew up in a very large family and learned a lot about parenting from my own mom and dad.

No, babies don't come from a manual. But if you don't know what you are doing, you learn. You apply common sense. You parent from the start and not wait for your 15 minutes of fame on reality TV entertainment. Then knock the show for not casting you in a good light. DUH!!!!

When that kid rode the skateboard in the street, why wasn't it taken away. Bottom Line. If the kids want special treats or toys then they earn it with desirable behavior. IF they misbehave, yes a time out, if it continue you take away the toy immediately. Lock on the bike, remove a cable from a TV or computer.

You remember you are the adult and they are the child.

You create a routine with your kids, maybe plan library trips, picnics at parks, whatever, but then you tell your kids --- those won't happen unless they can show they know how to listen and be in control at home.

Common sense.

They were being passive and lazy. Get over themselves already!!!

Cyber hair pulling at its best. There's a cock in the hen house.

A little curiosity caused evansvillehousewife to get on her high horse again!!!

Did anyone notice that pond, retaining pond, ditch what ever it is with no fence around it? That would scare the hexx out of me, and then to not watch or know where your kids are. I would say they are very lucky that nothing has happened to their kids.

But that is the flood area, and good old Evansville refused to put a fence around it.

I live in Evansville, and I used to babysit. I used to baby sit kids who hit me. Thought nothing of it, until they realized at my house that will not fly. It was time out every time, and I don't give warnings for repeat behavior. If I tell them on Monday not to hit me, or its time out. They should not have to be told again on Thursday not to hit me. They do know better they just want to see if they can get away with it .

People need to remember your kids do not have to like you. It is not your job for your kids to like you. I have said from time to time, my kids may not like me but they are alive, fed, and healthy.

The problem with the Kerns family is the same problem with most everyone else's family. Mom and dad aren't parenting because they are too busy reading the latest edition of "Parenting the PC Way" so as not to offend their child. Don't spank them, it's child abuse. Don't put them in time out, it's child neglect. Don't yell at them, it dampens their self-esteem. No wonder that "precious" is a brat that no one wants to be around. Just remember that when "precious" comes home whining that he/she doesn't have any friends, it's NOT his/her fault. Everyone else just hasn't realized how special "precious" is.
If the neighbor's kids were in your backyard, your garage or on your apparatus, would you say something to them? No you wouldn't because society is scared to death to say something to someone else's child. You tell a child "politely" that they are not welcome to play in your backyard without permission and you get that child's parent at your door flipping out because you "yelled" at "precious." Don't say anything and you lose your last dollar in the lawsuit when he/she gets hurt on your property.
That's the problem with society in general. Everone is so worried that they might do something wrong by someone else's standard that they don't do anything at all.
I'm no better or worse than the next parent. I've made my mistakes. I have failed to act when I should have and I have over-reacted when I shouldn't have. The point is, you have to act. You're going to take the wrong action more than once but at least you did something.

LOL at the last comment on the show about WI being full of bugs. They live next to not a pond but a drainage pit. MAYbe a connection ya think?? It was a very wet year......

I'd not even look at a man that considered Arbor Mist a wine.
My tastes run more along the lines of a 1965 Chateau Lafite, although there are some nice wines at Wollersheim (I recommend the 2006 year of their Domaine Reserve)

srjndb: Yes, I too took notice of the irony of people criticizing the children's rude behavior whilst being oblivious to their own.

The root cause is rather obvious: Reading more baby name books than parenting books during gestation.

Gazettefan tipped back another one and scribbled: Is evansvillehousewife involved in this?

Oh UNDOUBTEDLY. Because, you can obviously see, my username states I am a HOUSEWIFE from EVANSVILLE. You figured it out! Kudos!

Is it weird to anyone else that everyone's ARGUING ONLINE with each other over children's bad behavior? I thought this show was to learn, not to do as you see. And no, I didn't watch the show.. just thought it was weird to see behavior like that on here.

I watched the show tonight: It is you guy's fault the kids are like this,i hope you can see things different now! I can see if you don't get a handle on this prob.,Evansville is in BIG trouble when they get older,they will tear the town apart.

excuse me that should say until momoftwo attacked me NOT momoftwoboys. I do wish this family the best, I just hope they settle their issues off the national spotlight in the future.

My comments didn't get nasty until you attacked me but I am sorry for stooping to your level.

anonomouse, your comments are kind of nasty too.

Hey, now. My last post was before the show aired. It seems like I am being attacked on here and I haven't even posted for awhile.

momof2boys and mamaotwo are 2 different people posting. Just wanted to clear that up.

Kerns family, Once again keep your heads high and disregard all the negative remarks here. I know what it is like to raise 2 very active boys and how frustrating it can be.

Supernanny Jo was tough on you and of course they only showed certain footage. Now take the techniques that you have learned from Jo and stick with it. Don't give up.I have faith in both of you.

Also, remember it is just as important to take time for yourself.

SKerns.. you say in your post "This was an experience we will never forget. And what we walked away with was priceless."

Yet in the article you say, "Shannon said she learned from Frost's visit but wasn't crazy about the experience.

"It was common sense stuff; it was very simple stuff, and she was here to tell us to get our butts in gear and do it," Shannon said. "But I don't think we needed to be yelled at for two hours. "

So which was it a PRICELESS experience or COMMON SENSE stuff?

If it were common sense you would have already been doing it!

I feel sorry for the teachers when your kids get to school..

And again I state if you don't want the world to comment on your life don't put it up for the world to see. Momof2 you seem to just want to argue. May God bless you with a healthy and perfect child so you don't have to go on Super Nanny

mamaotwo meow hiss hiss scratch .

Momoftwo-I'll say a prayer for you and your unborn child so hopefully the nastiness you have will be cured before the child is brought into this world.

Man...anonomouse...those undies are strong but they are too far up your butt crack! Time to remove the grundy!

momoftwo I can see in your last post why you are taking offense. Its because you personally know these people. Thats fine but that's not an excuse to misquote and attack people and accuse them of doing the very thing you are doing. Everyone, including you, is entitled to an opinion. If you don't want your family life talked about don't put it up for the world to see.

I hope if you cut your hours to raise this honor roll student you can still afford to feed it without being a drain on society.

Good night all....Kern's family, ignore the negatives. I know your intentions were in the right place because I know you as parents. Life is about living and learning and I hope there were positives taken from this experience. I am sure it was hard to watch the show tonight and re-live some of those experiences but stay strong in your parenting and you will raise beautiful happy children!

I wasn't bashing or ridiculing if you would have READ what I WROTE and not what someone else wrote.

Anyway...I need to get some zzzz's. Gotta put that food on the table! But, you better bet your bottom dollar....or strong undies...that if I needed to reduce my hours for raising better (honor roll) students, I would do just that. I guess we all have to live with the choices we make at the end of the day and the only thing we can hope is that they are the right choices. Anonomouse...I hope you are proud of the choices you have made as I am sure there are ones you wish you could go back and change. Don't bash or ridicule people when you are not perfect...that is the point I am trying to make.

I don't think that I'm better than the family, but my opinion is the family should have sought more appropriate help. And I'm entitled to that opinion as you are entitled to yours. I'm adult enough not to misquote you and allow you to have your opinion.

sorry...no PMS here....but prego hormones for sure....those are better :)

I am just responding to your responses. You are right, I did misquote you but you seem to think you are better than this family and that isn't right. Until you figure that out, I hope those undies are strong.

So working is more important than raising intelligent kids? hmmm....
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Again an ignorant statement. People have to work to put food on the table and a roof over their childrens heads. It doesn't mean that work is more important than their kids. I think you may need a midol your PMS is kicking in.

MOMOFTWO I can't understand why you are attacking me because you are misquoting the heck out of me, but if it means you are leaving someone else alone or making yourself feel better by all means attack away. I'm a big girl and I'll put my abestos undies on before your flame gets any hotter.

So working is more important than raising intelligent kids? hmmm....

No I'd rather go to work for my money and try to be the best parent I can be without having to put my kids up for ridicule so I can get 15 minutes of fame and money.

Maybe if you did put your kids on national tv..they could have been honor roll students then. Missed your chance.

I wasn't bragging either I even admitted my kids weren't perfect. MOMOFTWO you were the one who said I was raising honor roll students. I wish that were true but unfortunetly my kids aren't perfect and neither am I. I didn't put my kids on national television and decide I didn't want the publics opinion.

I watched the show tonight, I thought there kids were pretty good compaired to some rotton children i have seen on this show. I think that the kerns did a good job with time out and bed time. I wish this show was on when my kids were little. I might have learned how to be consistant myself a lot more.

I am not the one bragging about how great I raised my kids....I am not the one that needed to feel better. I often think I am funny, so thank you for the compliament annomouse.

momof2 reread my posts I didn't say I raised honor roll students and with your accusation I can see you didn't even read a word I wrote.

momof2 you can't call SuperNanny professional help. I laughed so hard when I read you wrote that. Thanks I needed a good laugh.

mamaotwo Now did that make you feel better .

I don't think there was ever any doubt that this family needed help or else Jo would have never chosen them for the show. I also don't think there was ever any doubt that they would be criticized but I do feel they did what they thought was necessary to help improve their home life. Who are you or anyone else to say it was wrong? Someone has to provide entertainment for you people to blog about....at least the Kern's family got some professional help in the process...more than they can say for a lot of other parents out there.

Anonomouse and Mikki, congratulations on raising honor roll students. Give yourself a BIG pat on the back....because recognition is what you are looking for right? Why else would you be using this blog to boost your ego?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pphVs8b...

Please parents, teach them young, because when they get older, society has a special "time out area". It's called jail. Good luck...I mean it.

anonomouse good post .

GOOD JOB !!!!! After watching the show I have hope for this young family !!! Keep up the good work and the flags :)

I want to clarify something. My kids are far from perfect and yes they are kids and they will try to pull whatever they can get away with. Thats what kids do, but my kids also had rules and consequences for those actions. I can't honestly say my kids are perfect or that they are always on the honor roll. I can say that my kids have been taught values and when they leave the house I hope they follow them. I also did not put my kids up on national tv to be ridiculed, but I can say these kids are cute but their bad behavior rests soley on their parents shoulders. They are too young to have learned bad behavior at school, they learned it at home by not having parents who actually parented them. Lets hope the parents follow through on the recommendations and seek appropriate help next time they need it.

For the record, I am on-line, not watching this garbage, but enjoying the posting show :)

When my children were small, they KNEW what behavior was expected of them. I NEVER even had to spank them. To this day, (they are 12 and 15) all I have to do is give them a look, or maybe say one thing, and they do what I asked.
One is a year ahead of where she should be in high school, both are honor roll students. The worst thing they ever have done is taken their I-pod to school and got caught with it.
Oh, and we are best of friends.

Spare the rod spoil the child. These children can use an appropriately placed spanking. Time outs aren't going to work with these unruly kids. The parents have been negligent in discipline for too long and the sad thing is these kids aren't even school age. I feel sorry for the teachers who will have to put up with these disruptions in their classes because their parents are too lazy to make them behave and respect other peoples property. I'm calling for a raise for the teachers the minute these children are enrolled.

My Legs hurt just watching the parents run after the kids.

EXACTLY don't go on national tv and expect people not to see it and have an opinion.

Don't judge? Hey, you put yourself out there on a major television network, you're INVITING judgment.
Too bad.

I feel sorry for the neighbors too. The parents don't care where there very young children are but I'm sure they'd be at their attorney filling suit if their children were injured in the neighbors yard.

Dad looks disquisted at the whole situation. They need to come together as parents and make consistent rules.

I feel for the neighbor !! OMG !! Mom is going to get help with her kids in the end.I had no idea she was/is only 24. Yes I know young moms/dads can be good parents,it just takes some longer to get it.Hope dad steps up !

OMG the kids are too young to be left alone in the back yard near a pond and the mother didn't seem to care she couldn't find them. I may need to shut this show off because I have no sympathy for this type of parenting. I know the show purposely puts the parents in a bad light but this mother didn't need any help making her self look negligent.

No one said the kids weren't loved. Mom and Dad probably love them a lot, but Mom and Dad need to grow up and parent without taking their problems to national tv. The area is small enough this will be remembered and I hope these children aren't labeled or ridiculed for their parents decision. IMO its a poor decision to put your kids on public tv. There are other alternatives to find help that actually may help. I have a feeling this supernanny visit is more of an attention seeking behavior on the part of the mother and a money making opportunity because I know they do get paid.

Don't judge this family about being good parents or loving their children enough to teach them lessons, values and morals. I am sure they are loved very much.

gazettefan-I was wondering the same thing! Where is the post I was sure was coming from evansville...?? Maybe we will see it yet.

I wonder how much money they got for putting their family problems out in the open.

The only reason there is a need for "Super Nanny" is because parents don't want to be parents, they want to be friends. You must love your child enough to teach them lessons. Parenting is about loving your children, teaching them morals and values, and disciplining when needed. When the kids grow up you can be friends but while they are children you must parent.

Is evansvillehousewife involved in this?

Hang in there Kerns family. Keep your heads up high and just ignore all the negative press. I support you all the way and your kids will grow up to be just fine. Hey, they got to meet Jo the Supernanny!

Yes, I like to watch the Supernanny. I know that I have learned alot of valueable techniques from watching the show. I am a parent of 2 boys and I know how crazy our house can be. I am amazed at some of the negative comments on here. I wonder how many people that disapprove of reality shows/Supernanny drove through the Kerns neighborhood during the filming just to try to get a glimpse of Jo The Supernanny. I think Jo has alot of great ideas and techniques to share with parents.

I think Supernanny is a wake up call for some parents. She comes in & sets up a routine, rules & discipline. She shows them that their kids are rude & disrespectful & so many of them just allow it.

Regardless of how "good" the parents are, sooo many families could benefit from routine, rules & follow through. There's a lot to be learned about taking care of children & running a household. Yep, lots of it's common sense. Sure they're looking to make it an interesting episode & it's likely many of the families are not accurately portrayed. That's the risk you take.

People watch Supernanny and Wife Swap to feel better about their own lives. It's TV. It's entertainment. The only tv show I would go on would be price is right or wheel of fortune. Not "here's my naughty kids, my ungrateful husband, now the rest of the world has to be nice to me!"

Kids are kids. The biggest reason for the disconnection with kids these days is the fact that parents aren't at home with them enough to influence them properly. Every since the industrial age was born, the trend has shifted from one parent working to both parents working. We have media present in our lives that hasn't exactly been the healthiest information for people to be educated with. We've come to a point in society where the rubber is hitting the road. Many parents who were raised without values and principles instilled in them who are raising the future generations. People taught to live by the instant gratification rules as opposed to the delayed gratification "principles". I understand people wanting nice things and nice homes etc., but, 2nd and 3rd mortgages to pay for toys or debt that has been attained through foolish spending isn't the way to get ahead. All it's done is forced people to be owned by their jobs and live paycheck to paycheck and compromise what's really important, our families. In essence, we as a society have compromised the future generations for short term gains. I understand many people don't want to hear things like this because it exposes them. (Truth has a way of doing that) It's definately something I needed to hear so I could change. One thing I want to make clear, this is not a judging session against the Kerns or anyone. We all have our situations we're in and the great part about it, we can all get ourselves out of these situations as well. It starts with us. Many blessings to the Kerns and all of you.

Wow....I am really shocked at some of the blogs about this family and the jugements placed on them from a few lines in a newspaper or a preview clip.
First: What I don't get is if you don't even watch the show, why are you reading about it in the newspaper? There is no difference between getting caught up in this family's drauma on tv or in the paper.
Second: Every kid is not created equally at birth! Yes, surroundings can help mold a child but unless someone has that magical book of "Know it All Parenting" that describes your child inside and out...there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to know how to parent in every situation!
Third: Who is anyone to say anyone has an eating disorder or even hint at it? Shame on anyone who speaks those thoughts!
Fourth: Is there a difference between seeking publicity or recognition on here vs. on tv? This blog is national right? Anyone can read the comment you put on here. So, are you really the one that is seeking recognition? At least this family was given some guidence from someone they thought could really help their family.
Fifth: The rumors you hear from your friend's grannies youngest child's cousins mama isn't true...so stop pretending like you have any clue of what goes on behind the closed doors of your neighbor or what you read in a newspaper or see on tv.
Sixth: Have you ever done something that in hind sight may not have been the best decision? If you can honestly say that you haven't...good for you...but the rest of us need to look in the mirror before we place jugements on someone we don't know...or do know.
Kern's family, good luck to you!

Northman, I had to supress my gag reflex to get thru your post. #1 Comparing Supernanny to Jerry? You're joking right?! #2 The only people laughing at the parents on this show are those who don't have children, who think it's so easy and they would never have problems like this.
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Skerns can blame the editing all she wants, but I'm sure they paint a pretty good picture of how the kids are. Do they over-exaggerate at times...probably. But if the kids weren't bad then you wouldn't be on the show. I'm sure there wasn't many 'good times' that they purposely edited out.
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There isn't a parent out there who hasn't made a mistake with their kids at some point or another. It doesn't make them bad parents. All you 'nanny' bashers have to agree that the show works and helps people! Put aside the fact that it's on TV, she teaches parents the right way to discipline so what's wrong with that? The most important thing is that these kids are behaving like they should and they will be better teenagers and adults for it. Who cares if they might get picked on when they get to school? Kids will get picked on for anything now adays and it just makes you stronger. Plus by the time they get to school no one will remember this anyway.

People are so judgemental. Raising kids is a tough job. Every child is born with a different disposition and personality. Some kids are easier to discipline and will listen better than others.

Northman, you forgot reason #3, and probably more likely. It looked like a great idea while watching the show on TV. They clearly didn't think far enough ahead to understand what goes into making that show and what they'd get out of it.
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Shannon, kudos to your family for recognizing the need, but a definate bummer for the choice you made. Live and learn, then move on.

dvlgirl...I agree 100%. The best thing the parents could do at this point is stop complaining and learn from this. It's obvious what they are doing is not working so why not give it a chance?

myturn,
No they are not paid. They volunteer and the pay off is free advice. Which makes me even more curious why anyone would subject themselves to a reality tv show.

Bravo, Northman!!!

Do the parents not realize that after so much publicity related to this "supernanny" episode they are going to be "labeled forever". People don't forget things like this. Pity the poor kids once they get into school with their peers. Why would parents even want to subject their children to such publicity? I received first hand pictures of the "supernanny" chaos when it arrived in Evansville. I have family living in the same neighborhood. What were you people thinking going on National Television??

warn- i still havent gotten an answer as to why you made that comment. she loks rather thin to me.

Like I said on the other site, I wish I would have had someone to help me when our child turned 14. They are now 17 and nothing has helped!! We went to lots of counselors and took every avenue we could, but nothing seemed to help. The child has been hard since birth and I am not kidding!! I raised 2 other children who are just fine today. I was a stay at home mom and spent every waking moment with my children that I could. My husband is a very involved dad and he is at a loss too. Best of Luck to the family and I will be watching, I watch all the time.

I'm only assuming they are doing it for the good of their family. That's all that matters. I'm sure everyone's parents have made a few mistakes in their life time of parenting, So have they. Just because they are going on the show does not mean they are awful parents. They have to be some what decent parents to go on the show & have the guts to get help. They are doing what's right and trying to get back on track.

I should have known better than to even read this article, and had to work hard to suppress my gag reflex as I went. The comments here only increased the roiling of my stomach. Come on, somebody calls in a reality show to get help with parenting? And some readers actually “appreciate” that these folks realized they needed help and took this bold step to correct the situation? YGBSM. Does anybody really believe that all the bozos on Jerry Springer are there to get help with their relationships?
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There are only two possible reasons for anyone to want to appear on a reality show. One, they are too clueless to figure out that people are laughing at them, and not with them. Two, they crave their 15 minutes of fame, and reality shows give you that without any prerequisites of talent or intelligence. You don’t go on these shows to fix a problem; you go there to get attention. It amazes me that someone would appear, and then have the moxie to complain that they weren’t shown in the best possible light. The only light these shows project leaves a big “L” shadow on your forehead.
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If you think you need help, then by all means seek it out. If you don’t belong to a church – hands down the best place to turn – they try the city social services, they’ll point you in a good direction. Calling 1-800-Hollywood is the wrong choice, every time.
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And before the “do not judge” crowd starts chanting their mantra, here’s a clue for you. As an adult, you are *supposed* to judge. It’s a critical part of learning. Some people choose wrong, some right . . . some choose smart, some stupid. You can watch, figure out if what they’ve done makes sense, and be a better person for it. Even more important, you can point out examples so your children can learn and mature. If you never judge, then you’re never thinking. Which probably means it’s time to call in for your turn on a reality show.

I have always wondered if people are payed to be on these shows, other than the "priceless experience".

As I read the comments, I'm just curious how many submitters have had children. I'm not saying these folks are the best parents, or that they haven't made mistakes. But I consider myself a good parent and my child has issues. I've known many good parents who have faced adversities others haven't, and I've seen many bad parents get lucky with great kids. Judging a person's parenting ability or common sense against how their kid turns out isn't black and white. Again, I'm not saying these people are doing a good or bad job - I don't know them personally. I'm just saying it's not an easy job for even the best, and for those who've never taken on the responsibility, it might be best to keep quiet on the subject until you have some real-life experience to refer back to.

Maybe the Gazette got a phone call, and was under pressure to please it's customers.

Typical Joneserville conservative paper always removing your comments. Might offend someone.....JONESERVILLE GAZETTE STAFF SUCKS!!!

I read warm's comment made at 2:35 PM this afternoon, and I must say it's removal was pretty arbitrary.

If they called a year ago to be on the show that makes the boys 3 years old and the little girl 6 months old.I can understand the twins,but why is the little girl also acting up ?? Guess I'll have to wait to watch the circus tomarrow.

WELL IVE WATCHED JUST ABOUT EVERY NANNY 911 SHOW THERE HAS BEEN I DONT THINK ANY PARENTS ARE NOT MADE OUT TO BE BAD. i also think that with the way the world has became no one understands the true meaning of family . i also believe that we are not allowed to punnish our children as we were .im not saying beat your child im simply saying to make our children behave and listen. i was reading other sections of the paper and a perfect example of this is a child being arrested for tattooing other children .and look at how many minor children are being arrested for battery to a teacher.where are the parents ? i know if i ever talked back to a teacher let alone raise my hand to one i would still be picking my butt up from the floor. things really need to change in this world before we destroy any or all family values that may remain .

By the way SKerns I wish you and your family well. Because you are right, until you have lived it people have no clue.

skerns we have been through some thing similar and I would NEVER go on national t.v. . We RAN to the closest counselor we could find. National t.v. is not the help you need.

Yeah. All the "good" behavior will be edited out. That's why the nanny was called in, right?

I have been hearing the report all day long on the radio about hoping the family won't look bad on the show. Have you ever seen the show? I have yet to see any family come through as looking good. In every case I have watched, the combination of an absent dad and a stay at home mom trying to do her best but not wanting to make her children tow the line make them all look like poor parents to say the least.

Until you live it please do not judge. This was an experience we will never forget. And what we walked away with was priceless. Also, think about the editing and all the backstage things that go on before making rude comments.

Children are not born with a mean streak or unruly attitude. Those are learned traits that are enforced by the parents lack of discipline in the home for one reason or another. The "Nanny" can only set them on a path but the parents need to be strong and keep a firm but fair hand on the kids shoulders as they develope and grow. Best wishes to the entire family.

warm -HAT mother is over weight? Shannon- DONT think so. size 8 i would say. maybe youre being sarcastic. that must be it.

wellwisher-I wish this family well and good luck. I do not know this family or the children as it sounds as if you do, but you or nobody else can assume that the kids will resort to violence or end up in trouble with the law in the future. It takes big balls to put yourself in the spotlight for something like this. I wish them well. By the way, I can't stand that show or any like it, simply because of others comments said on here. Most of it is common sense and not caving in to your kids. Some parents want to be friends with their kids and that is where problems start. (That is my opinion.)

Warm, are you kidding or blind? She can't weight 120. Did you miss the pictures of her on this page?

Unless you have seen these children in action and the parents' lack of action, you can't imagine how much help was needed. Clearly they are loving, well-intentioned parents who lack(ed) skills for positive discipline. How brave to ask for help. I am hopeful they learned some of the skills that will help these boys behave in the neighborhood, in their home and in the community and then be able to learn the self-discipline they will need to lead a quality life. Without some assistance it certainly appeared they were headed for serious problems including violence and contact with law enforcement. This is a difficult thing to think about for toddlers who haven't even entered the public school system. Bravo to their parents for giving it a try. The messages they heard from Nanny Jo were undoubtedly difficult to hear as is always the case when facing up to difficult truths. There are far too few resources for learning how to be a parent and the Exchange Family Resource Center is a good one if people would just tap into their resources and be open to learning. We could ALL be better parents no matter how well it's going at the moment. Hang in there and keep learning how to be the best parents you can be.

It sounds like this Mom was desperate for help at the time she applied. She asked for help and she got it. Based from what I read, it worked whether it was 'just' common sense or not.
Would I go on nationwide TV - no way! But I will admit that I do watch the show and while the ideas are common sense it is good to see how other families put them in place and make them work for their situation.

warm: if you think Shannon is over-weight, then I must be morbidly obese in your eyes--and I wear kids' sizes! I think you're mistaking the mother for "Nanny Jo." She obviously doesn't have low fat crumpets when it's time for tea and crumpets back home, I agree!

I've never watched the show and likely never will. For the life of me I can't imagine why people participate in some of these shows.

I'm totally not judging this family. But, history would dictate that since the dad was a)against going on the show and b)didn't like the nanny or what she had to say--I'm guessing that if they did a follow-up on this family in 6 months, many of the poor behaviors would be again prominent.
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I like how she says it was common sense stuff. Doh! Not that common if you needed Nanny JoAnn to get in your face.
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rlms: I'm guessing that they heard all of this before from family, friends and basic intuition on their part. I know my kids can be spoiled brats--I don't need anyone to tell me that--and I certainly don't need to go on national tv to have it corrected either.
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I hope they get "it" under control now. They think they have problems now? Wait until little Brenna is a hormonal 12 year old--HA! The cat won't be the only one trying to hide under the couch :)

I kind of wonder what family and friends have tried telling them about what they were seeing. I am sure someone, at some point has tried to give advice. And if they ignored it.

I've watched Supernanny before, not religiously, but I think it's a good show. I think it helps to have an outsider come in and help you fix it. She isn't swayed by the crying or whining. She knows how to discipline and won't cave in like moms & dads do. She won't sugar-coat things which mom must have gotten from family and friends if she thinks the people that know her best thinks they are great parents. If you didn't make mistakes then you wouldn't have been in this situation.
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She rips the show apart because all Supernanny gave her was common sense. Well that's what parenting is! You obviously lacked commen sense as a parent and she gave it back to you. The show must have worked cuz the Gazette reporter said the kids were behaved. I say be grateful for the help you received.

A spanking could lead to a beating if the parent loses control.

The lady of the house complains about it all and was unhappy about the crew, the staff, the comments and the "Nanny". But excuse me......who invited these people into their house? The parents brought it forth, so deal it with it and all the public humility that goes with it and stop your complaining!!!!

nurse4u - a spanking is different than a beating

sfcm--you are correct, the Exchange Family Resource Center does offer parenting classes. Parenting workshops, playgroups, developmental screenings and in-home parenting classes are offered as well. There is also a lending library. All services are free of charge for anyone living in Rock County.

Well I applaud this family in reconizing that they needed help with learning how to raise kid's but it sounds like most of these cases they also needed help in learning how to be good parent's. Like (rims) said who are these kid's around learning this behavior, swearing and hitting if not the parents's who claim they are good parent's I just think there is a better way for finding help than throwing yourself on National T.V. we have plenty of family services right here at home in WI. My only question left is there monitary gain involved in going on this show and can that be a reason for opening your doors to all of America?

sfcm- It is from my understanding that the Family Exchange Resource Center provides means and opportunities for new parents to receive assistance in obtaining baby clothes, furniture, etc.
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The website states that The Family Exchange Resource Center "offers parent education classes and workshops and resource libraries, volunteer opportunities, one on one consultations and telephone help lines. All services are provided free of charge."
608-314-9006

I have the mouth of a salior on a good day:( When my girls were small believe it or not they didn't swear or have bad behavior...I have one now that could put me to shame.So if anyone thinks behavior of a parent won't come back at you someday.... just wait.It has helped ME to clean-up my mouth and am now working on hers.Sad when you never wanted your child to be a mouth piece.

Do not judge lest you be judged.

Good luck family. Raising kids is tough.
You did a positive thing. Ignore all negatives.

So ace are you recommending that parents hit their children? Maybe you didn't see the news article published Tuesday where two people in Janesville beat and choked their 3 year old to the point that the poor child had to have brain surgery?
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Many people have issues with anger. Some can not stop hitting once they start. They too are only trying to "discipline" their children. It's tragic that the children suffer. No, I would NOT recommend hitting a child, no matter how "naughty" they are.

I personally do not like alot of reality shows. I do not watch SuperNanny. However, I do find WifeSwap highly entertaining. It actually provides insight into others' lives and their family dynamics. Some individuals realize just how important their families are to them. Plus, like I said, it reminds my husband how good he has it with me...

OMG! If you need help with parenting skills, perhaps you shouldn't of become a parent, especially of more than one! Society needs to realize that without discipline, kids aren't going to listen. Put some fear in them so they think twice before doing it again. Come on people, our parents did it to us and it worked. I would of rather got put in the corner than a spanking, but sitting there gives the kids time to figure out what they did wrong and how to do it without getting caught next time. I could go on and on about how kids are brought up today. Some are awesome, but most have no respect for their elders.

I agree you must be a little naive to think a reality show is going to fix your kids. All I think they would care about is ratings. Personally I think these reality shows are VERY stupid yet people still watch them and a lot. Wife swap how degrading to other wives out there.

I personally wish them well. I never would have done what they did and I don't think they should have either. I am sorry its not real help. Its a joke. Its away for someone to make money at someone else's expense. I hope they get a handle on things soon, but they have put themselves in this spot and it will take them a while to see real changes, long term changes. This nanny jo person does not fix anything from what we read just brings chaos.

Good luck to them.

P.S. The child probably relieved himself OUTSIDE because of all the film crew people INSIDE.

Yes children are sponges. TV, neighbors, relatives, daycare, etc. influence children. It is a parent's responsibilty to monitor what their children are exposed too, but even the best parents swear. I know I taught my youngest child a great word when I dropped a can of vegetable on my toes. Let's just say it took awhile to get him to stop saying it. Now, if I accidentely swear in front of him-he reminds me that it is a naughty word. :)

"Tell me & I'll forget, show me and I will remember, involve me and I will understand." ~ Confucius
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I am not sure where free parenting classes are offered. I will have to check out some resources and get back to you..

never watched it, never will. I think its the dumbest thing to have a complete stranger come into your house for a couple of weeks, tell you what to do and leave and never see them again.

Its a shame so many people do watch it.

When kids that age are acting out in the ways described in the article, whether "cranked up" from the new attention or not, they are learning it from the adults around them. I don't doubt the parents do the best they can and really care for their children, but all parents need to realize children are sponges and they want to be like their adult role models, whether good or bad. I hope this experience helped, but it doesn't seem like the parents thought it was worth it.

nurse- getting help is what they needed. But get real help. Get help that will be around in 6 months if needed. Someone you can call on the phone. Like a counselor or psych. Real help for what is clearly a real problem. There are many
resources all you have to do is open a phone book. No they wanted some thing else or they would not have gone on national t.v..

I personally prefer WifeSwap. It reminds my husband that he could have ended up with someone crazier than I am! LOL

And all of you will be watching Friday night.

It sounds to me that the experience was not as great as they make it out to be on TV. I think if someone was getting my kids all riled up I would have sent SuperNanny packing back to England.

Yes, nurse--I agree it's good for to seek help if they are having trouble. Are there local sources for parenting classes and other support services like that. Does the Exchange Family Resource Center offer those types of classes?

It is very sad. The entire thing for the hard time they are having with their kids to them thinking the way to fix it is national t.v.

I have always wondered what family would do that now I know.

My kids are old enough to know what swear words are and the bird. But they don't do it. Because they know there are consequences if they do.

Its tough being a parent you have to stand your ground. Its clear these parents never have or they would not be in the spot they are.

This family recogonized that they needed assistance in providing and maintaining a healthy family. I applaud their efforts. They have a set of twins and an 18 month old. They defenitely have their hands full.
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Asking for help to become better parents is a GOOD thing.

This is nothing but a t.v. show that generates money. It is sad. Because I really doubt it helped that much. Whats really sad is kids learn very quickly who they can push around, and what they can get away with. In case their parents.

I totally agree.
If you put yourselves out there on television like that, you deserve any publicity, good or bad you get.
Man oh man. Who would invite reality television into their lives? Who would invite boatloads of strangers to come into contact with their kids? I shudder at that.

JMO--what's worse is that this type of crap has been made commonplace in entertainment today, and somebody somewhere is living the high life because of the money they're making off of it.

O.K. where are these kids learning this crap? WHO are they watching? Or maybe WHAT are they watching? I am sorry at 4 years of age my kids were not swearing or flipping the bird.. Still don't.. Kids copy what they see and hear. What kind of people do they have around there kids? That is not normal bad 4 year old behavior , that is coming from some where.

Haha!

Congrats on raising little monsters and broadcasting to the country your failure.