Guess what, mr.rexkramer: Obama has dumped the idea put forth by the GOP stalk of celery.

Was this proposal dreamed up by the Road fixing industry or the automobile dealer industry? Will it then be a felony when these devices break or you try and fill up during a cloudy day when the satellite can't pick up your signal?

I may be mistaken, but wasn't it all that long ago that experts were talking about overburdened GPS satellites? What about hackers?

"Idea is being brought forth by a Republican."

First, I could care less if the idea was being brought forth by a stalk of celery, a new tax is a new tax. Second, if The One chose him for his cabinet then he's about as much of a true Republican as I am a starting quarterback for the Packers. Bottom line is any politician reaching in my pocket for more of my money, particularly in this economic climate, deserves to be scorned, no matter what side of the Congressional aisle he sits in.

Anyone ready for the Boston Tea Party???

Obama, our savior. I hope he does good, but just remember one thing, HE IS STILL A POLITICIAN, and they lie all the time for personal/political gain, please remember that! Obama said (just yesterday) "NAFTA will have to be on hold". Oh well, just another campaign promise broken. He promised all the Union workers different.

It`s a money loser, and I heard Obama already put the kibosh on it.

To all that with the mind set only the rich will end up having a tax burden with mileage and gas tax are sorely mistaken. I don't have a choice to show up with half my tools needed for a job. It takes what it takes to get work done. Lets not be so selfish in our mindsets and see the whole picture.

RAISE THE GAS TAX. I intentionally purchased a vehicle that gets great gas mileage for a number of reasons. Paying less in taxes than someone choosing to drive a gas guzzler would just add another reason to my list. Everyone has a choice. If you choose to buy things that use more of our resources or you're too lazy to use measures that help save our resources then you should pay more. It's that simple!

foolonthehill, I guess it does appear that way. And with some of the responses given here sometimes it feels that way anyway.

Yes, if someone is in severe violation of the rules they are removed from the site and all previous posts are deleted.

Idea is being brought forth by a Republican.

gazettefan, your posts were entirely relevant in the context of the posts that preceded them. My point was, if someone were to read all of the posts in order for the very first time, it would sound as though you are talking to an imaginary friend and are, therefore, quite delusional.

As for being dumped from the site, I have only seen the content of a post deleted (this comment removed by site staff) but never all traces of its existence. Perhaps, I am mistaken.

Now, back to zis imaginary friend of yours... Veeeeery interesting.

foolonthehill, not sure of your meaning.

It looks like she's been entirely dumped from the site. My posts on this story may not have been entirely on point, but they were relevant enough. She resorted to name calling. And my posts only accurately pointed out a strain of violence in her citations and comments -without name calling.

And ultimately, I think, you and I missed the post that actually got her dumped. Staff tends to be tolerant so she really must have gone over the line.

She may still be able to see this site and leave posts but only she, and no one else, can see her posts. If she can see this post, I prefer that she was still with us. But I've noticed when attempting to debate with scripturists and people fundamentally into religion, that they tap-out easily and unacceptable instincts are aggravated.

Just keep voting for the democrats who have never seen a tax they did not like. Or can figure out a way to tax it. Hang on everyone this is only the beginning of things to come.

"Notice how in aletheia's 11:43 post the flimsy pretense of intellect gives way so easily to the violent theme of monotheism. This mirrors perfectly the violence intrinsic to scripture including the koran."

Actually, gfan, every aletheia post has vanished! I didn't realize that was possible. What a great way to make other folks appear to be delusional.

Average driver goes 12,000 miles a year. At a quarter cent a mile, that is $30. If you have a car that gets 50 mpg , that is $77 for Wisconsin gas taxes, much more for lower mpg cars. How is this going to substitute for the tax?

rexkramer, re: cigarette tax, even if the plan is to reduce smoking, and I suspect it is, then it's a good plan. If revenue has to come from other places, then we've all still benefited.

Then it's really a matter of making sure people are taxed fairly and tax revenue is used properly.

"What I see this administration doing is this — thinking outside the box on how we fund our infrastructure in America," he said.

Allow me to translate: "This administration is going to find every way possible to screw the people of this country by reaching into their pockets to pay for the endless giveaways this administration plans on handing out for the next four years"
If this quote doesn't perfectly summarize the liberal agenda I don't know what does. Remember Obama in '12! Of course, by that time I'll probably be taxed so badly I won't be able to afford to pay for the mileage I'll incur to drive to the polls.

"Among the reasons for the gap is a switch to more fuel-efficient cars and a decrease in driving that many transportation experts believe is related to the economic downturn. Electric cars and alternative-fuel vehicles that don't use gasoline are expected to start penetrating the market in greater numbers."

Once again we see that when people actually listen to the tree hugger crowd and drive eco friendly, fuel efficient vehicles, what happens, the government says thank you by sticking it to the taxpayer. Isn't this the same philosophy as Alliant "sharing the burden" with Wisconsin consumers because they aren't selling as much gas/electric since GM is gone?
Oh, by the way, all you folks out there that love the idea of jacking up the cigarette taxes, take notice because it'll be the same thing when smoking drastically declines, they'll just look for something else to tax to make up for the revenue. That's why every time I hear someone say "well it's only a few cents/dollars" when it comes to any additional tax I want to scratch my eyes out. Wake up, you let these money grubbing politicians in the door with a 5 cent tax today and tomorrow they're reaching in you're pocket for a dollar.

The government has unfairly not separated itself from the church by allowing it monetary benefits that others don't have.

The story says a "substitute" for the gas tax. I don`t really see how it would work anyway, it`s going to bring in much less money.

alethiea, an unfair tax system is the topic. Consistent with this is that the church benefits from this unfair system. You not only made it religious, you displayed perfectly the dangerous volatility of your kind of religious conviction.

SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE PEOPLE,,I say CHURCH AND STATE>>>>

fatcheck,This would not be a deal because they would still keep the gas tax and probaly raise it with some other lame excuse.

Federal gas tax, 18.4 cents. Wisconsin, 32.1 cents. Cars that get less than 30mpg pay a little more, those that get more pay a little less.

At a quarter cent a mile, that is 7.5 cents a gallon for a car getting thirty miles to the gallon. What is the gas tax? Seems to me it is higher than that, much higher. This could be a deal.

Notice how in aletheia's 11:43 post the flimsy pretense of intellect gives way so easily to the violent theme of monotheism. This mirrors perfectly the violence intrinsic to scripture including the koran.

LaHood, wasn't that the name of the rich sob in Pale Rider?

"ATTENTION ALL INVESTORS" Do to Doyle's increased demand on KY products it is suspected that KY stock will reap large returns on the dollar. Taxpayers of wisconsin will be bent over to be stimulated by (yes yours truly Gov,Doyle)Make your purchases now,for this could be the "BIG" payoff. LOL!!

By the way, I'm not a communist. Communism has its roots in early christianity: unrealistically, idealized communal life headed by an all-powerful, unelected leader.

Everyone has to pay additional tax when they purchase a product or service. The profiteers who run the churches are unfairly enriched if they don't have to pay their fair share. This causes the people who donate to pay additional tax to pick up the slack.

Now, that is a quote for posterity, gfan! That says it all.

alethiea, be nice, like Jesus would like you to be.

Since we will be taxed, people and organizations should pay their fair share.

Jesus was pro-tax: "Pay unto Caesar......."

If the government taxed organized delusion, the tax burden will lesson for everyone else and the national IQ and literacy level would eventually rise.

This travel fee will create a chain reaction for higher costs of products you buy do to higher shipping fees,tourist revenues will decline do to less travel,auto sale will drop do to less usage,auto repair and parts replacement will deline do to less usage,oil companies will lose revenues,bus fairs will increase. Many more people will lose their jobs do to this ignorant idea. It's apparent that these idiots haven't thought this plan out, for this is just the tip of the iceberg.

If the Church weren't tax exempt, everyone else would be paying less tax.

Vicki McKenna is hitting the nail on the head this morning.

Also was anyone as mad as me when he also said he would release prisoners who were nonviolent early to cut costs?? They sure have their priorities upside down there!! Cut your own salary Doyle and don't let prisoners who deserve to be there out before their time! What a dumb thing to do, just like Obama wanting the gitmo prisoners mainlined in our prisons!!! Would you like those terrorists in your state?? I sure don't!!!

I find it interesting that one would mention that all "they" want is to save their own jobs and make cuts/taxes elsewhere to do that. I found a 117pg GM report to congress on the internet that outlines their restructioning plans. On page there is a graph which depicts salary positions remaining constant while hourly wage positions and plants in operation are cut dramatically between 2009 and 2014. Check out pg. 88 of the GM Restructuring Plan Milestones.
http://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/eesa...

Glad I didn't vote for these goofs. Oh by the way, "I told you so!"

Brother Comrade Brzezinski would you like to come over for dinner we are having Vodka with potato soup. All Hail the Motherland.

Yeah did you notice Doyle said he wouldn't raise taxes but like anotheropinion said all these fees!!! And the other night he (Doyle) said he wouldn't cut any government positions! I say to cut costs cut some of those high paying government jobs and cut some of their pay as we have had to do! They don't have a clue up there in madison or washington dc they all get to keep their jobs and get raises and bonuses too!!!

I wonder how they are going to make this apply to the Amish with their horse and buggies, maybe a chip in the horses a**? Oh then they get charged tax for letting the horse graze around the pasture, this is just rediculous

from the artical..........Privacy concerns are based more on perception than any actual risk, Atkinson said. The satellite information would be beamed one way to the car and driving information would be contained within the device on the car, with the amount of the tax due the only information that's downloaded, he said.

I totaly beleive this.........Right I agree with nogo's last post..

Not only will it penalize people that buy more fuel-efficient cars think about this. You don’t need that many cops anymore all you need is a computer system could see that Billy bob hit 78 miles an hour and send him a ticket. Also government could sell your driving habits to companies. Think of all the other consequences of this. You can also argue the good this can do. Little joey’s car hasn’t moved for five minutes send a cop and find out he was in an accident. Danny drunk is driving erratically send a cop find out he is drunk. AMBER Alert, description blue corolla bring up a map find all blue corollas in the area send cops. I just don’t like the whole big brother about this.

I guess we are running out of smokers to tax? I for one am tired of all these usage taxes. It's tax creep...you don't see it coming. Doyle said he wouldn't raise income taxes, well with all these fees he already has.

If they refuse to cut spending, then at least tell us straight up how much of our wallets they intend to take and propose an income tax increase. That way we can vote them out next time.

Just a Machiavellian (sp?) move to make a national toll system more palatable.
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But thanks for another "stimulas."

ooops let me clairify that......I don't have rats in my house LOL

I smell a rat................

You got that right rooster

should be good for the quy or girl that has no choice but to drive for their occupation. another way government will styfle the economy. these guys can't think up this garbage fast enough. like the banks when a check gets refused payment for lack of funds, lets say an oversight on the guy that wrote the check, and even though the check gets made good in 30 minutes, still gets charged a penalty of 25-30 bucks. why? because the actuaries have figured out that they can make a killing for the banks that a computer generates through no cost to the banking establishment. meanwhile the crooks at the top steeling millions and even billions get away scott free....only in the freedom loving usa.

another problem with this is the big brother effect......how in the heck are they going to put GPS chips in every car?? and whos gonna pay for that??? oh i forgot....... tax tax tax Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hey everyone get you shovels out time to get some exercise.....more snow on its way!!!! YUCK
STAY SAFE!!

Yep.....tax tax tax......this guy is an idiot tax tax tax.....they want you to conserve energy and then tax you cause they arn't getting the revenue cause you arn't driving as much... Grrrrrrrrrrrr. I've said it before and I'll say it again......HOLD ON TO YOUR WALLETS!! Its going to get a lot worse......

usaret ..... I think the price was 1/4 of a penny per mile.......tax tax tax

North Carolina is considering a quarter cent per mile according to the article. This is probably an attempt to address the real and anticipated loss of revenue from electric vehicles that would use the road system, but not pay a user fee through gasoline taxes.

Just another attempt to grab more money to fund projects that are not necessarly related to the highway funding. It worked before because the funds were used the way they were suppose to be but today, for some reason, they get borrowed (?) to fund this or that special program and then they have to come up with another reason to tax us to fund the highway program. Has anyone seen what the charge would be per mile?