I mean come on you're all adults acting like the immature kids that do this stupid stuff. People make mistakes, people do stupid stuff. That's how everybody learns, is from there mistakes. This doesn't mean that the parents are bad parents just because, there children do stupid things.

(madman1961)Well it's apparent you are misunderstanding what I am saying, so I suggest you go to the very beginning of these blogs and read them all! Because if you feel that violence for violence is the way to go, Than maybe,just maybe someday you'll be going to visit your kids at the jaillhouse. Because they'll think violence is the correct way to go.

Other than exceptional cases - of family hardship or dependents' needs - the driving age should be raised to 18. Bicycles are very good to get one to work, and the number of teen fatalities and unprepared juvenile parents would drop precipitously.

jtown...

...I'm sorry...I NEVER intended to imply that there weren't problems with some kids 40 years ago when I was a kid...not for a second.

It is, however, getting worse.

Even 40 years ago, the bullies and the troublemakers knew that the WOULD be called up short by the law...they may have still been "bad citizens" as my teachers used to call them, but they did it knowing that they would have to answer for what they did.

Even the worst troublemaker knew that he needed to walk a fine line between time in the youth home/juvie hall or going to Ethan Allen.

Unfortunately, kids make poor choices even with "good" parenting. Have to agree with etown. In order for these kids to be held accountable we would need probation, DA and judge that believe in holding kids accountable instead of sending them letters scolding them or putting them in groups and giving them prizes. Probably explains why they want to now close the detention center.

well said madman, it is very hard as a parent these days because if you are in a store and i have a 3 year and if i talk to harshly or people think i am to harsh that means i am a "bad" parent or if i just let them act out i am a "bad" parent there has never been anything ever easy about being a parent but these days especially parenting is very scary i worry about my kid being a bully i worry about him being bullied i worry everyday am i doing the right thing to make him a better person when he grows up and it is sooo sad when stories like this happen because i am sure too these parents of these kids feel the same way

gixxer...

...We've had at least one generation and maybe two, depending on how you count it, that we, society, decided that we can't spank our kids. Anyone that resorts to spanking is obviously a bad parent and a bad person...no kid would ever DREAM of telling a lie about why mom or dad spanked them.

That's about the size of what's happened, right?

And just what have we gotten for being a more "kinder, more tolerant and forgiving" society? Kids that have no idea what it means to stand up and do the right thing...kids that think nothing of ganging up on another kid and beating him for his skateboard...kids that have no problem with the idea of KILLING another kid for his SNEAKERS...kids that have no respect for the law...or their parents. Kids that know that if they do get busted, they will get no more that a light slap on the wrist and the judge saying "Now I don't ever want to see you in this courtroom again". Oh, and the get the "cred" in school for having done whatever it was that they did THIS time.

No, I don't want to see any kid get beaten...that is not what I'm saying at all. I am saying that if you teach a kid from a young age that there WILL be consequences for actions ANY time it happens, when they get to be young adults, they will KNOW how a person ins supposed to act.

i also don't really think it is a joking matter that these kids did this to him. i am not trying to be up tight or anything but as a parent of young children the thought of when my kids are big enough to be out skateboarding minding their own business and that some young punks could come up and do this to them really bothers me. it makes me never want them to leave the house even though i do realize that is not a practical thing that will ever happen. i am heart broken for this little boy and the fact that he probably was scared for his life when this happened and really again don't think this is anything to take lightly or in a joking manner

i think that was on topic it was about the kids right

Take it easy latinmamamia, you're missing the point. The gang reference was simply a joke. And please save the "gangs are serious" junk. Let's stick to the topic and that topic is a bunch of cowardly punks who beat up a kid for pleasure. I hope the 13 year old has an older brother with older brother friends. Or maybe the 13 year old will meet up with them again in high school because he'll probably graduate before any of these losers.

jeff dahmers parents were not normal he was a creepy thing since childhood and they ignored his wierd behavoir, and i am sorry these days as parents you know whether or not kids are in gangs it is not something they hide very well there are tons of signs you see if your child is in a gang. and maybe these kids were not in a gang they were just regular jerks, besides i have never seen a skateboarding gang banger

Wow, these are going to be the toughest kids at high school. Who in their right mind would mess with a group of dopers who can beat up a 13 year old? Talk about your Janesville gang activity, these guys are the real deal. But I'm not sure you can blame the parents. Sure they might be dirtbags, but that isn't always the case. Heck, Jeffery Dahmer's parents were "normal".

i don't really care if the 17yr old beat the boy up or not he did nothing to stop it and he drove to the boy so he is just as much at fault and i hope he is charged as an adult and really 16 or 17 neither have the right to be beating on that little boy. so i personally think really a dumb point to bring up they are all equally at fault if he wasn't driving he probably would of gotten out to he had to be the get away jerk right

The 17 year old didn't beat up the 13 year old, it says right in the article..the two 16 year olds did.

I dont believe bad behavior so much to do with beating your kids or not. It has to do with raising them with morals and ethics. I dont beat my kids, and they are well behaved children for the most part. In my opinion you have to teach them from the time they are very young to be kind to other people even if you dont like them, and teach them about how to be kind and gentle with animals to show respect for life and the feelings of others. I always tell my kids "There are enough mean jerks in the world, I dont want to raise two more"..
I was raised with corporal punishment, but I hope that I can raise my kids with a enlightened mind, and get past spanking so they can do the right thing because they have a "good heart" and not because dad will kick thier behinds if they dont. Someday I will be dead, or old and weak and they will need values instead of fear of me.

Did the 13 yr old get his skateboard back? What did these older teens do w/ it? Maybe these kids should have to buy the 13 year old a new skateboard? Or somehow hold these kids accountable for their actions. Take away drivers license, or any gaming permits. I hope the kids at high school just raze the crap out of these teens.

I say yes the parents should be called out, why are their kids beating on a little child, that is awful and i hope their parents feel ashamed that they have not taught them to be better human beings than that. for the boy this happened to i hope he is okay and hope he recovers from the emotional damage this could do to him.

The parents should be held accountable. These are their kids. Call them out if you think they deserve it. I say yes to soccermom69.

soccermom, I totally agree with you, your comment should not have been removed, I thought this was an open forum. I thought you nailed it right on the head.....losers, that pretty much sums it up.

Why did soccermom69's comment have to be removed? It was not that harsh. Maybe these parents are losers. So much for free speech. maybe we should cane them.?.

I personally hope they charge this 17yr as an adult, what business does he have beating on anyone especially a little 13yr old, guess he was too scared to take anyone on his own age

do you guys really think they will punish these kids , punishment in rock county is now known as deferred prosecution. the drug deal that went bad in edgerton, so far all but 3 of those kids received deferred prosecution,the rest are still pending. almost all had previous drug related crimes. the drug suppliers got nothing. i think the schools play a role in this. instead of punishing them at school when they do something wrong they call the police and want the court system to solve their problems. it overloads the courts and they have less time to deal wih these more serious issue

I agree that it isn't always the parents fault.....but in this case it is absolutely the parents fault. I believe I have read on here many times by wwr1961 that in cases like this the child should be publicly caned.....Well wwr1961 do you feel the same now???? C’mon, chime in....but please, be honest and let us all know if you would want to see your child get the cane?? I'm not saying that any of these kids happens to be your child.......or am I????

how horrible for this boy to just be out skateboarding and have this done to him, kids just are not safe no matter what they do, and these older boys are little punks for beating on someone younger, they need to get a job if they seriously can not afford a skateboard of their own. what losers i hope their parents are proud of them maybe they will beat some sense into them

i dont think that its the parents fault in this situation, this isn't really about the parenting..this just shows how heartless some kids can be, what they all got i think they deserved and, i hope they all have to pay for it big time.

marymac4, I'm not disagreeing by any means when it comes down to how society has become... because of everything having to be politically correct that it leaves no legitimate recourse for any parent to utilize aside from sit back and allow their child(ren) to be in control... the children in that did this to the 13 year old are just perfect examples of what society has limited parents to...

every time something like this happens peeps scream 'todays youth have no values' this stuff happened in 1989 and 1969 too. it just wasnt blasted over every media source. in fact anyone remeber the story of marty mcfly?? i do believe he stole a scooter and made it a skateboard to avoid bein caught by biff. maybe thats what these kids were doin?? runnin from biff.

Yes sannio blame video games. COME ON!!!!

But violence for violence does not solve anything. Taking someting away from the little criminals inturn for what they take from their victums make's it more on a level playing feild.

Yes is does. Pampering criminals has certainly not been working.

Yeh-right (realitybytes) that would only endorse more violence, I think we have enough of that already and does this mean it's alright for the victum to retalliate?

Society has changed; and not for the better. Kids no longer have respect for the law because they dont fear reprisal. When I grew up in the 70's kids know better than to talk back to adults. Kids acting up were told to stop, usually by their parents but also by any number of other responsible adults who happen to be around. Now people are afraid to punish their kids. I remember trying to punish my 5 year old and having him tell me he would call the police because I made him feel bad(something he learned in school). I had a friend try to punish her kids in public and was rewarded by having another store patron call the police on her. Spare the rod and spoil the child. Perhaps these 16 year old young MEN would respond well to a public caning. 40 lashes given by the victim would go a long way to putting them on the right track.

As my dear old dad used to say: "Beat your kids before they're old enough to know how to call the cops - that way when they ARE old enough, they'll be too afraid to."
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And hey, I turned out OK. Well, pretty Ok. {{twitch}}

I blame video games. Hey, someone has to bring it up at least once! Where's Jack Thompson when you need him? Oh ya, that's right.
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/09/jack...

Putting them in jail will only make things worse, down the road such as making them into harden criminals after which they will think it's a game. It will cost the taxpayers more money in the long run. Take their drivers licence away until the age of 19 and make their parents pay fines, They are responsible for them aren't they?

armyof3 Todays society takes the right to discipline away and define role models as most parents do their best to show/teach their kids right from wrong and I don't know one caring parent that would want their children doing this type of behavior. Sometimes it puzzles me as to always blaming the parent. Kids today have little to no respect for rules/laws/parents and so on and it is sad. I do not know of any parent that says "when my child grows up I want him to be a criminal" When kids reach a certain age they think their choices are right and who they hang with is none of the parents business. I have been there and tried with everything I could and it made no difference. Peer pressure today far out weighs what the parent says or does. I am labeled by my kids (who are adults now) as a cop caller/narc because I would not allow certain things to go on in my home. I did everything I could to try and change what they did and now they can sit in jail/prison and deal with the negative choices they made as I did not raise them that way and yes maybe discipline would have worked but The threat of calling DCPS and police if I touched them was a deterant for me as I did not want to sit in jail or be labeled a child abuser. So some of the posts as to blaming parents needs to be really looked at because most parents do what they can LEGALLY...

the two 16 year olds need to be charged as adults as well as the 17 year old. heres whats goin to happen, they will be labeled as victims of society, theyre poor, or they are only doing what theyre seeing.Bxxx Sxxx! they do it because they get away with it. put these kids in prison for a year or two, then maybe they will think about it.

Right, beeferer, good thinking--Have them come over to the house so they can really case the joint, and then they'll steal everything else, too.

Bunch of punks. The girls don't seem to have much self-esteem either if they hang out with these losers.

A group of punks pick on a 13 yr old who is all alone. Wow!! Really impressive!! They really have something to brag about now. Parents must all be proud, too.

this is a perfect example of today's youth lacking discipline and positive role modeling...

How's this for indemnification- make those little so-and-so's clean their victim's room, cut the grass and shovel the driveway for a year. Take away their free time so they don't have to come up with insipient ways to spend their time.