Lincoln really did sleep here

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009
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— Today is Abraham Lincoln's 200th birthday, and Wisconsin is planning a party to honor the man who spent 15 nights here—two nights in Janesville.

That doesn't sound like a lot, but it beats a lot of other states planning celebrations.

Take North Dakota, for example, which has Lincoln events planned.

"Quite possibly, Lincoln was in Kansas once," said Peter Skelly, a local Lincoln historian.

If he wasn't, the Tallman House porch was possibly the closest Lincoln ever got to North Dakota, he said.

Skelly understands why states are jumping on the bandwagon. Lincoln always ranks No. 1 when Americans are surveyed about their favorite president, he said.

Skelly, a member of the state's Lincoln bicentennial commission, is in charge of putting together a guide of Lincoln's time in the state.

Lincoln was in Wisconsin twice, and both times his travels took him to Janesville, although his last visit here wasn't planned.

During the 1832 Black Hawk War, Lincoln served in the Illinois State Militia as part of General Henry Atkinson's army.

On July 1, Lincoln camped in present-day Beloit at an Indian village called Turtle Village. Historians even know what he ate: dove soup.

The next morning, the troops passed through Janesville, stopping at a site now in Blackhawk Golf Course. The spot today is memorialized by a marker.

The troops camped at Storrs Lake on July 2. They searched for Black Hawk in the Lake Koshkonong area for the next three days. From July 6 through 9, Lincoln was north of Whitewater in Cold Springs near an old Indian village called Burnt Village. The army came together there. The group included Zachary Taylor, the 12th president of the United States; Henry Dodge, the first territorial governor of Wisconsin; and Albert Sidney Johnston, who would become the second-ranking general in the Confederate Army.

Atkinson, running low on food, discharged the militia on July 9. Someone stole Lincoln's horse the night before, so Lincoln and a buddy, George Harrison, walked back to New Salem, Ill., probably passing through Janesville again.

Lincoln stopped here a second time in 1859. The Lincoln-Douglas debates were over and Lincoln had lost the Senate race.

Lincoln was invited to speak at the state fair in Milwaukee, spent the night there and then took the train to Beloit. Because the day was so windy, he spoke on the third floor in the Hanchette Hall in downtown Beloit. That building still stands.

Lincoln had checked into a hotel in Beloit, but after his speech he was "hijacked" by Janesville residents, including William Tallman, who persuaded him to speak here, Skelly said.

Lincoln rode in a buggy up Prairie Avenue on Oct. 1 and that night spoke in the Young American Hall, which was located in the parking lot on Main Street across from the Olde Towne Mall.

Lincoln spent two nights with the Tallmans, attending church with the family at the First Congregational Church. On Monday, he caught a train back to Illinois.

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gazettefan
Mar 2, 2009 at 4:55 p.m.
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Honest Abe never returned to the Belwah because it didn't have a smoking ban back then.

gazettefan
Feb 28, 2009 at 12:06 p.m.
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He stopped at the Belwah for a Cosmo.

Sandman
Feb 28, 2009 at 2:08 a.m.
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Anyone know the location where Lincoln was supposed to have spoken in Beloit -- "Hanchette Hall in downtown Beloit. That building still stands."

beeferer
Feb 15, 2009 at 8:05 a.m.
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These posts, with all their drama, are much more entertaining to read than the articles. It's fun to read the postings first and then try to guess what the article was about. BostonBill was right about the first three posts. Go back and read these messages starting with the 5th one and see how long it takes you to figure out what the article was about. Too funny. Oh and happy belated birthday, Abraham.

gazettefan
Feb 14, 2009 at 4:19 p.m.
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The Ol' Railsplitter's reputation was irreparably damaged when it was revealed that he had an affair with President James Monroe's wife, Marilyn.

PollyAnna
Feb 14, 2009 at 10:34 a.m.
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Oh gazettefan, thanks for the LOL! Confessed to chopping down a cherry tree?

gazettefan
Feb 14, 2009 at 10:14 a.m.
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Lincoln's reputation and political future were greatly enhanced when he heroically saved the lives of all his men after his PT Boat was rammed by a British Man O' War in the War of 1812.

gazettefan
Feb 13, 2009 at 5:09 p.m.
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Lincoln's son Robert had contact with the first three presidents assassinated on the day of their assassinations.

His father, then Garfield, then McKinley.

gazettefan
Feb 13, 2009 at 5:02 p.m.
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Lincoln, Illinois was named for Lincoln. But it was named for him before he became famous.

As a young lawyer he was hired by some people who wanted to locate a new town on a future railroad line. These people couldn't agree on who to name it for. Lincoln was the lawyer who handled the legality of the whole operation, so they named it for him.

gazettefan
Feb 13, 2009 at 4:57 p.m.
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They called him Honest Abe because he confessed to chopping down a cherry tree.

BostonBill
Feb 13, 2009 at 7:02 a.m.
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gazettefan: Thanks for the memory jog.

gazettefan
Feb 13, 2009 at 6:50 a.m.
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BostonBill, I know. I was kidding about the sarcasm, thanks.

Billy Monboquette

BostonBill
Feb 12, 2009 at 10:37 p.m.
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gazettefan: I was referring to the posts by, HedbergLibrarian, janesvillean and you; the first three posts of the blog.

BostonBill
Feb 12, 2009 at 10:30 p.m.
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gazettefan: It was sincere and honestly written.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 9:42 p.m.
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BostonBill, I hope that wasn't sarcasm!

But seriously, today is also Charles Darwin's 200 hundredth birthday. He freed the world from another kind of slavery -some of us, anyway.

BostonBill
Feb 12, 2009 at 9:20 p.m.
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Personally, I enjoyed the first three posts here. That is not to say that there are not other good ones but in my opinion, the first three were informative, interesting and intelligent. Thank you.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 8:24 p.m.
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Hey, etown and JLifer, what's so hard to understand? People aren't buying cars, that's why hannah has time to post! During which time she isn't making any money Get it?!

etown
Feb 12, 2009 at 7:53 p.m.
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yes if you meet a car saleman at a dealership and they introduce themself as hannah, RUN FOREST RUN

JanesvilleLifer
Feb 12, 2009 at 7:36 p.m.
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Hannah, anything to add to the article? How about your JOB

JanesvilleLifer
Feb 12, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.
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"it is the only entertainment that is free at work."

You need entertainment at work? How about doing your JOB instead of trying to be cute and funny. If more WORKED at WORK, we wouldn't be as bad off right now. You missed the point entirely aren't you proud?

Have another stick of gum:)

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 5:02 p.m.
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Abe Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born on the same day.

ChsMkr
Feb 12, 2009 at 4:52 p.m.
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Old song says it all about the article: "Here's a quarter. Call someone who cares." Actually same goes for the babbling in the blog.

imatim2
Feb 12, 2009 at 4:15 p.m.
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"Happy Birthday Abe!"

JanesvilleLifer
Feb 12, 2009 at 4:12 p.m.
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"obvious self-comforting reverse polarity of your oral aggression is obvious" Gimme a break.

Yeah I'm sure ole Abe would be proud of how some of you are spending time/energy during one of Janesville's worst times. Way to go

MikeF
Feb 12, 2009 at 3:59 p.m.
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Long_Time_Gone- I was thinking the same thing about Harrison. :)

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 3:39 p.m.
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hannah, I'm not smarter than you and we're both smarter than SpongeBob.

Sponge....., the obvious self-comforting reverse polarity of your oral aggression is obvious. You're not fooling anyone: You really like to choke it down.

You and that other crotchety codger, Oldfox, should be charter members for the area metamucil mafia.

Now say something nice about Honest Abe.

SpongeBob
Feb 12, 2009 at 3:12 p.m.
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gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 1:41 p.m.
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I think it was Gary Wills who said: With his Gettysburg Address, Lincoln told America what it is.

Long_Time_Gone
Feb 12, 2009 at 1:35 p.m.
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And upon returning to New Salem, Harrison caught a slow boat back to Liverpool, and the rest is music history.
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Oldfox - lighten-up.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 1:24 p.m.
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Oldfox, congratulations, you're another one of those people whose very first post is a complaint about the posting habits of others. Interesting.

1. No, I don't have way to much time on my hands. I enjoy posting and per day all my posts only use up a few minutes of my time. Maybe it seems that way to you because your personal frame of reference amounts to an inability to read at a normal pace and an inability to write a few sentences in a normal span of time.

2. No, I don't know everything there is to know. For instance, I don't know the source of your cranky disposition. Maybe it traces back to your toilet training and that other blog set you off. Am I right?

3. It's called conversation. I don't know much about you but it's clear already that you're one of those people who resents other people merely for being alive.

Oldfox
Feb 12, 2009 at 12:25 p.m.
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Reading many of these posts on this site for the first time and for the past 45 minutes leads me to believe that gazettefan either has way too much time on his hands, knows everything there is to know, wants everyone to know what he knows or all three

pondermuch
Feb 12, 2009 at 12:04 p.m.
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Anyone know the location of the Turtle Village place that the militia camped in Beloit in 1832? I'm curious to know if it is marked. You'd think if they know what he ate, they might know the precise geography.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 12:04 p.m.
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One of Lincoln's most important dynamics was his belief that this country was the vanguard for democracy around the world. This was evidenced in his opposition to slavery and his opposition to the succession of the south. It was all spelled out immortally in the Gettysburg Address.

janesvillean
Feb 12, 2009 at 11:54 a.m.
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It is interesting that Lincoln has moved up from the second most admired President when I was a kid (after Washington, of course). I wonder if it's partly the GOP using the "party of Lincoln" slogan so much. I suppose another explanation is that Lincoln's salvaging of the Union is more relevant to today's Americans than Washington's role in creating it in the first place (to be sure, Lincoln was more of a towering figure, whereas Washington was a leader but shared credit with men like Jefferson). One aspect of that is that we recognize today the importance of America's essential multiracial character and how the Civil War resolved that question. In any case, that his reputation still stands undiminished is interesting in what it reveals.

HedbergLibrarian
Feb 12, 2009 at 11:45 a.m.
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Want more information on Lincoln's visit to Rock County? Stop in to Hedberg Public Library and visit the case near our Janesville Room. While you're there, check out a few of the many books we've got on the subject, too! Happy Birthday, Lincoln!

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