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moco I have nothing against people who wear ties and have respect for the manangement as they do sigm my paycheck, (also wearing a tie would be easier to choke them if they anger me) JUST KIDDING.....

Good for you Marymac4 keep living with your rose colored glasses on. I have been there before to. Unfortunately, when you realize what kind or "team" you are really part of, it will hurt you that much more to know you have been so blind all this time.

Ask11....where do you suggest the people leave and move to? Is there some place in Wisconsin, or anywhere in the US that is not laying off or having a big hiring that none of us knows about? Buddy, things are tough EVERYWHERE....where have you been???

ALSO for some of the recently hired the MAX unemployment is not what they get!!!! And as to sneak attack what would you call it? (Joe, Betty, and ED you are done now get the hell out and we will send your things.) I don"t think the way it was done was an open way of handling it either. Most employers have the common curtesy of letting the workers know and give them time to adjust. And with the way it was handled at Hufcor the higher seniority workers thought about taking it and having the option to know or not if the could afford to volunteer to do it and I am happy to be part of a team like we have.

Mocco Gm knew well ahead and everything went fine there and at many other places I have worked at. if you fear worker will snap is not reality if they want ther job back when the economy picks up. IMO i believe everyone in here knows with the way the economy is they may be next. right now I don't see to many secure jobs as I thought we were safe at hufcor.But I have to say employees are posted regularly on things like this and IMO that is a good work ethic on Hufcors part. team members were updated as to economy strain and some of the ones with more time in took the layoff. And some still have concern as to anymore layoffs and I know if we ask we will get true answers.

I was layed off twice in my career, including losing my health insurance, and was given the courtesy of a week's notice.
I never even considered anything dishonorable and my employer knew that based on my work history.
When did that change?

If your employer suspects you would act in such a way...why would you even want to work for such a company?

"It would be a liability to keep people around a week after they let them know the will be let go."

WOW... what a sad commentary on that company's hiring skills.

MOCO...so you are saying that the economy is what determines somones' integrity?
If you got a lay-off notice, would you snap?
Do you think the person working next to you would snap?
If so, why would you keep that employee working for you before it came time to lay them off? Because they made money for you?

Aren't people layed off with the hope of getting recalled at some point? So why would they all of a sudden do something stupid?

Yes, it could happen. But should we live our lives in fear of what COULD happen?

If a company expects little of their employees...that is what they will get.

It never used to be that way. Why should we settle for that now?

That is a question management needs to answer.
It could be why they are where they are.

Typical Hufcor move. This is what they do. Instead of trying to figure out ways to get the job done with the work force they have, the minute their lead-times go beyond 6-8 weeks for production they hire a bunch of people to bring the lead-times back down. Then when it starts to slow down they lay everyone off. This is nothing new for them. Hufcor does not have the reputation of being loyal to their employees. They never have. To Hufcor everyone is replaceable. What they don't tell you in the article is about all the people they let go in the office. People that were not "layed of." Fired would be a more appropriate word. They are definately not a company I would recommend to a friend.

Are any of you going to get smart and LEAVE Janeville?

I wonder why SSI on Palmer Drive has not announced that they laid off or elimanted jobs last Friday. I was one of them and no word in the Gazette. Between 25-30 were affected

Well some of the new people who got hired came from GM,Lear,Allied, what a way to live get laid off and then find a good job again and then get laid off again.

I'm not defending any company but stating how it should be done. Integrity???? With the economy the way it is people can't find jobs to save their houses etc. How do you know when that person working next to you won't snap. You can't possibly be that naive to think that this couldn't happen. It would be a liability to keep people around a week after they let them know the will be let go.

Escorted out? Standard procedure at most offices. Dont go looking for drama under every rock

They better get a huge loan, considering how many people keep getting laid off; and probably more to go.

I might add, "being escorted out" would be justified in a firing of a disgruntled employee, but not in a general lay-off situation.

MOCO...you're defending a company tactic that really under-estimates the integrity of a workforce that apparently was trustworthy enough to help the company make money.

When the state UC fund runs dry they get a loan from the Feds to be able to keep paying benefits.

The economy is so horrible these days, my husband just got his hours cut at his job so just having that done hurts a family. i hope and pray for all families that have to expierence that something better will come along soon

Maybe what some people are trying to say is if companies would give employees a notice, that would give them some time to look for work elsewhere. Unemployment does not cut it for people who have mortgages to pay, utilities, insurances, food on the table, and other necessesties. Especially if those people were loyal, dedicated workers.

Well, it does sound as if the LSS layoffs were handled a little less delicately.
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Hufcor's market is global, but this recession is global as well, and construction projects are particularly affected. I hope Hufcor has credit to hold on until the recovery, which could be a long time coming.

marymac4: I'm glad the workers were allowed to get their personal belongings. Don't use these words though: "Sneak attack". Don't you think there are good reasons to not let people know ahead of time? Companies don't do the "sneak attack" as you put it to ruin peoples lives. They do it to protect the company and other employees. Can you imagine how much damage a person could do to a company if they let them know ahead of time? You don't ever know when someone will go nuts. It sound's as if you are a factory worker that has something against people who wear ties when you talk like that.

But we were informed before hand so it wasn't a sneak attack and employees weren't escorted out without there personal belongings,it also went by seniority and some higher seniority workers took the layoff voluntarily.

BY the way they were already laid off as of Monday. And some before that.

hufcor and the employment game..look on the bright side, maybe there will be work down the road. don't wait hufcor laid off workers, try to get schooling lined up and maybe benefits to pay for it. the best time to get job enhancement education is now....

Wow...the bad news just keeps coming.

Work that is contracted but put on hold due to financial stress at this time. With the economy recession they look at the whole picture to what is more important and/or needed at the time. Also IMO stretching out the work they have so they don't have to lay off more.

What exactly is "delayed work"?