New parking lot too pricey: Council

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2009
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— Janesville City Council members will consider designating the public parking lot behind the senior center as senior parking only as one way to create more parking rather than spending $440,000 to build a new lot.

The council also told staff to take up Mercy Options on its offer to move 17 of its leased spots to the plaza across Court Street.

Councilman Yuri Rashkin was absent.

Staff also will look into creating parking by converting St. Lawrence Avenue and Water Street to one-way.

Don Allison, senior center president, said seniors prefer the option to buy the former jail site and creating 90 parking spaces at a cost of $22,000 each.

The parking would support other development in the area, Allison said. It also would assure that the center would not outgrow its site.

The senior population is increasing along with it program demand, Allison believes. Parking is at a premium, he said.

" ...When that land is gone, our options are gone," he said after the meeting.

Councilman George Brunner, who suggested designating the public lot as a senior-only lot, said the city already subsidizes the senior center at $190,000 a year.

"In these tough economic times, I just can't see how we can afford to spend $440,000 to create parking spaces," he said.

Some council members questioned exactly how much parking was needed. The seniors say they need about 20 spots, but staff said a study shows that adequate space already exists within 450 feet of the senior center.

"I don't think we really know how much parking you need," council member Kathy Voskuil said.

She suggested the center look into shifting programming to decrease pressure at peak times.

Council member Tom McDonald, whose law office is near the senior center, said he has kept an eye on the parking for a year.

He said he can recall Water Street being filled only two times, and that was because of construction last summer.

The city could buy the former jail lot or it could put more spots on Water Street, he said. "But those spaces are no closer than the spaces they (seniors) don't use already," he said.

The problem isn't a lack of space—"It's a lack of space closest to the building," he said.

McDonald suggested that seniors mobile enough should park farther away and leave the closer spots to those who need them.

He admitted that thinking is contrary to the American way, where people loop around a parking lot to get closer to their health club.

Council members Russ Steeber and Bill Truman were the only two council members who seemed inclined to spend any money. Steeber made a motion that included directing staff to investigate converting St. Lawrence into one-way street going west and Water one-way going south to add about 25 spaces.

"I think there are options that... (aren't) going to cost the city an arm and a leg," Steeber said. "The seniors (using) this are deserving, and we owe it to them for what they have done (for) the community."

Truman agreed, noting money councils have spent on the performing arts center, youth baseball and now possibly $200,000 to remodel the ice rink. The parking in Steeber's motion would cost slightly more than $100,000—"a small token of appreciation of what (seniors) have done."

Seniors have asked for more parking before, Truman said.

"We need to pursue this and keep moving forward," he said.

The council approved Steeber's motion directing staff to investigate converting the streets to one-way. Spending money to convert the streets would require another vote.

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lussonee
Feb 12, 2009 at 7:08 p.m.
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It was'nt that long ago that we were told we needed to get rid of one way streets to make the downtown more appealing for revitalization. Now the council is considering changeing two streets to one ways for more parking for one organization. I don't have a problem with the senior center getting what they need to survive. I have a problem with the leaders in this community not being consistant in their decision making process. I would'nt side my house, decide that i wanted an extra window,then,after installing it, decide that the window should be on a differant wall. After the debate over one way versus two way streets,why would this have been brought up as an option. Whatever the council decides,make sure that you only spend our money once.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 3:45 p.m.
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True, hannah, very true.

gazettefan
Feb 12, 2009 at 10:29 a.m.
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It would be wrong to turn green space along the river to an area covered with asphalt or concrete.

Give the "less able" the best spots. Determine this by whether the "less able" have disabled parking status. And possibly extend this status to seniors who don't have disable parking status but can in some way establish that they require spots close to the building.

This may sound cold, but walking is good for everyone. If a senior can walk without a problem, they should be glad to walk.

Also, it seems the seniors of the the senior center are just flexing their muscles (ironically). They seem to be playing the gray card: "We are getting special deference because of such-and-such, let's play it for all we can get."

wiscoman
Feb 12, 2009 at 10:28 a.m.
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When will the city council start doing there home work???? Lets spend 440.000 on a parking lot that might flood in March and can not be used until July or my be later. How much will It cost to maintain it also. I'm all for helping the seniors but they have to start using there heads when spending the tax payer's money.

tjncj
Feb 11, 2009 at 7:56 p.m.
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"if theyre arent mobile enough to walk farther to where there is parking available maybe they shouldnt be driving"- hannah.
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I cannot believe you said that. So seniors who can't get around without a walker shouldn't be able to drive to the Senior Center? Do you believe in euthanasia for seniors as well?

miyata312
Feb 11, 2009 at 1:15 a.m.
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$38,000 per STALL?

playfair11
Feb 10, 2009 at 7:14 p.m.
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thanks, cappyman. ideas like these are imparative-especially lately. i work for a non-profit and i am always spending my time trying to come up with ways to save money. maybe i should run for the council! lol
anyways, the center is already set up for a valet parking system and i bet there are a few people out there (i.e. retired and looking for something to do, or otherwise) that might just have the time to provide that type of service to our seniors.

cappyman
Feb 10, 2009 at 2:26 p.m.
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playfair: that was the first thing i thought of this morning when i heard the story on wclo. good call

Purrmaid
Feb 10, 2009 at 2:10 p.m.
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Now is not the time to be throwing $440,000 towards extra parking when more than adequate parking is already in existence. The nearly half a million dollars would be better spent wooing business to Janesville.

playfair11
Feb 10, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.
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has anyone thought of valet parking? if they hire someone, or find someone to volunteer, that could work during the peak times this would surely cost alot less, if any, money.

janesvillean
Feb 10, 2009 at 11:34 a.m.
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Tom McDonald for the win.

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