Rock County officials react to report criticizing juvenile justice system

By TED SULLIVAN   Saturday, Dec. 19, 2009
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— Rock County officials said they didn’t know of all the problems listed in a report on the juvenile justice division, but they stood by the division’s managers and believe they can make improvements.

“There were a lot of things that I didn’t realize were issues,” said Brian Knudson, Rock County Human Services Board chairman. “There are a lot of concerns that need to be dealt with, and it will take time.”

Consultants Jim Moeser of the Wisconsin Council on Children and Families and Wayne Liddell of Liddell & Associates were hired to evaluate the juvenile justice division. They were hired after allegations of misconduct.

They presented their report to the board Wednesday.

Outdated practices

The consultants said the division uses outdated practices related to handling juvenile offenders.

“I didn’t’ realize that,” Knudson said. “I thought we were more up to date.”

The staff development budget has been small, and employees haven’t been able to get ongoing training, said Susan Masterson, human services board member.

Because of turnover in division management, people have continued old practices, she said. Turnover has made it difficult to make changes.

The latest division manager was trying fresh approaches, but she resigned, said Craig Knutson, county administrator. The ideas also weren’t being communicated well with employees, who resisted change.

“Change is very, very difficult,” Knutson said. “Many jurisdictions have gone through growing pains as they’ve tried to make changes of this type.”

The division needs to develop policies and procedures and update them regularly, officials said.

“I was surprised to some extent at the lack of policies and procedures in place,” Knutson said.

Developing policies will take time, Masterson said. Schools, law enforcement and others should be involved in those decisions.

Misconduct

The consultants said they couldn’t confirm whether managers wanted to reduce the detention center’s population to close the facility.

“That certainly is the perception to some people,” Knutson said. “That was never communicated to me as county administrator.”

Masterson doesn’t think an effort was made to close the juvenile detention center. She said managers wanted to send more kids to diversion programs instead of detention.

“The intent wasn’t to decrease population; it was to try diversion,” Masterson said.

The consultants also said juvenile probation officers weren’t told to lie in court, but they were encouraged to manipulate what they reported to judges.

Knudson believes that was simply a communication problem.

“My personal opinion is that people are reading too much into that,” he said.

Masterson said it was difficult to decide whether anyone was told to manipulate the court.

“I would not want to believe that anyone would be asked to do anything unethical,” she said.

Instead, the problem might have been a difference of opinion between probation officers and managers. Probation officers sometimes disagree with their manager’s decisions on detention.

“All of us want to believe that we’re doing the right thing,” Masterson said.

Communication

The consultants said the division lacks communication. They said the division’s morale was low and employees don’t trust or respect one another.

Knutson, the county administrator, said he was aware of communication problems within the division.

“I think that is probably the key factor that set in to other problems,” he said.

Knudson, the board chairman, said he didn’t know morale had gotten so bad.

“I didn’t’ realize that some of this stuff had been brewing for this amount of time,” he said.

Officials said openness and improved communication could solve the division’s morale issues.

“I think just about anywhere people work those issues go on to a degree,” said Marvin Wopat, human services board member. “I think that can be worked on and that can be repaired.”

Detention screening

Juvenile probation officers don’t use a standard screening tool when deciding who gets held in detention, the consultants’ report states. The lack of a screening tool is unfair to juveniles.

About 15 probation officers make detention decisions, creating inconsistency, the consultants said.

The division needs to use a screening tool, Knutson said. Fewer people also should be in charge of detention decisions.

One person also should be in charge of overruling detention decisions, Masterson said.

Moving on

Board members and division managers will read the consultants’ report and meet with the consultants again in January, officials said. Then, they will begin planning for changes.

The process will be inclusive and open, Knutson said.

Officials said they were confident that current managers could lead the division into the future.

A new division manager will be hired soon, Knutson said. The new hire must be good with people and have communication skills.

The manager also must understand current juvenile justice practices.

It could take three years to turn around the division, Masterson said.

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beenthere25
Dec 23, 2009 at 5:33 a.m.
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Ifyouonlyknew - Are you kidding? You have heard that the person who has been giving presentations on "diversion" is suddenly stepping up to the plate and changing things in the department! The best way to make a program succeed is to stop utilizing the alternatives - which in this case was the detention center. Come on. Wake up, ask employees, Jason Witt would never do or say anything Charmian Klyve did not approve of. Both should be fired.

timrforchange
Dec 20, 2009 at 5:35 p.m.
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The bottom line here is accountability. That's all I am asking for. Ms. Klyve should be fired PEROID!! Her inability to perform her job has cost we the taxpayers money with having to hire consultants to tell us what is wrong. That is her job to make sure policy and procedures are up-to-date and current and it is the HSB to make sure they are. I don't need to read a report to tell me something stinks! Not to mention we have to send our managers to school at taxpayer's expense to make them competent in their work. I am all for continuing education but it is not working here. And just because you send someone to school doesn't mean they can do the job, and it's quite appearent she can't.

Ifyouonlyknew
Dec 20, 2009 at 3:17 p.m.
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Maybe the board and Mr. Knutson did not know exactly the extent of what was happening. However, they were fully aware that staff training had been gutted much more extensively than management training. In fact, the county is sending its managers to a year long class on how to be certified government managers. Now two of those individuals, Mr. Becker and Ms. Bischoff, are no longer even employed by the county and hopefully the tax payers have received a refund for their tuition!
It appears that the board and Mr. Knutson are very reluctant to hold Ms. Klyve accountable for anything. We have suffered through her disaster of closing the hospital, the hiring and firing (or strongly suggesting leaving) of several managers and a division manager in juvenile probation, no oversight for policies and procedures, no staff training and development and the list goes on. One can only imagine the status of the other divisions she is in charge of. Yet, she continually received raises from the board and Mr. Knutson for the wonderful job performance. Citizens should be outraged! When staff had brought issues to her attention, she disciplined them! Is it any wonder there is distrust between the staff and management? My understanding is that the Deputy Directer, Jason Witt, has really stepped up to the plate to clean up the mess she created and staff relationships have improved and the department is working together to make necessary changes. The county must take responsibility, including the employees, for moving forward. Making statements that the entire situation can be chalked up to miscommunication is naive and misinformed and the citizens deserve better than that. Maybe read the entire 90-page report before making comments. It was made available and worthwhile reading.

timrforchange
Dec 20, 2009 at 11:31 a.m.
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Your right,and now that the public is aware of what is going on we should demand their removal.If you or I were'nt doing our jobs we would be shown the door no questions asked.

guitrguy
Dec 20, 2009 at 11:13 a.m.
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that was the mo was to reduce poulation so theu could close the facility!!!!!!!!

timrforchange
Dec 20, 2009 at 11:05 a.m.
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People it's time for a change,from the top on down.Ignorance is not bliss,the chairperson and it's members need and should know what is going on and not bury their heads in the sand.Clean house and start over,hold managers accoutable.John Q public would be FIRED and they should be too!

beeferer
Dec 20, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.
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“The intent wasn’t to decrease population; it was to try diversion,” Masterson said. Masterson said it was difficult to decide whether anyone was told to manipulate the court. “I would not want to believe that anyone would be asked to do anything unethical,” she said. ---She is saying nothing here. Sounds like a lot of double-talk. Excellent potential political candidate.

alongcamepolly
Dec 20, 2009 at 8:10 a.m.
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The board can continue to minamize the problems and blame others, but the line workers know exactly what happened. Nothing will change unless they admit and take some of the responsibility.

SarahB1
Dec 20, 2009 at 1:03 a.m.
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Same old, same old.

ms_sassy_wi
Dec 19, 2009 at 10:10 p.m.
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um...Mr. Knutson has been made aware of all of the practices that have been handled in the "shady" fashion-way back-at least a year ago. He just doesn't want to admit that he is part of the problem.

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