Edge: Time to grow up.

Reading this for some reason pissed me off! Now i graduated from Craig a while ago. But i can say off campus lunch was not some big fun drug party freshmen year. But off campus lunch is where i got to take a break and say what i wanted and relax with out a teacher RIGHT THERE! I meet friends and most days i walked home to my parents house for lunch! Ate and walked back. SO now who is more dangerous the kids with the cars or the new freshman who for the first 4 or 5 weeks are scared out of there mind. And this is not a prison by the way its a high school, I think the school board should have done its research on violence in schools. The more you treat your students like prisoners the more they act like them id's to get in and out to eat lunch. I think i lost my school ID half way through the school year a few times. And for that matter have you seen the JUNK that is for lunch that is not lunch, it is a all you can buy junk food buffet. I expect Gym to be required and longer now.

I've got news for all of you who have been arguing: There are still nine-graders at Marshall School. One was found just the other day by an apartment dweller. The "victim" was found inside a locked locker and said he had been there since one lunch period in 1987 when the other ninth-graders stuffed him inside the thing and left him behind. So, who are you going to believe --- some old people with foggy memories OR this kid who plans to start high school next week at Parker? Also, he is requesting to be off-campus for lunch.

am I racist because I think the freshman and sophmores should stay on grounds and enjoy their new cafe??

i have not made any racist comments. It is not racist to want the trash out of here in our downtown area. It is not racist saying some patrons are not known for spending much money. I am not sure what other examples you think I am being racist about. Please enlighten us.

Swisschick; I tried but got unplugged.

Is this settled yet? Yeesh!

Okay i looked and
87-88 was the first year. the reason I am confused is becasue if you look at 88-89 year book it says "freshman join ranks" that to me sounds like they came there that year. Sorry I am not perfect like callitasiseeit.

I am weird too cause I have my yearbooks i guess.

callit quoted me on this""If I went to craig in 87 I was a sophmore and NO FRESHMAN were there"
yes year of 87 end not beginning there were not an freshman. We were the underdogs that year.


NOW would you STOP following me around callit and complaining about everthing I say. Fine I may be a serial blogger but what is your problem with following me??

Well, it is kind of cool that little old Janesville has produced two national political leaders in 20 years. Makes one wonder which student at Craig or Parker is the next one...

Paul/Feingold...I always get those two mixed up. My bad.

The first line of the story says "For the first time since 1971, Craig High School will require its ninth-graders to stay on campus during lunch this year." This is not saying there were 9th graders there the whole time. It is saying that starting in 1971 (or 1972) 9th graders (and 10th, 11th, and 12th) were allowed to leave campus. If I remember correctly, it was in the mid 70s that 9th grade moved to the Junior Highs, but the first statement is still true. Craig did not stop the 9th graders from leaving campus for lunch. Craig has had open campus since the early 70s and that is changing this year to restrict the 9th graders. I know, nitpicky semantics.
And it wasn't Paul Ryan that pushed for open campus. A certain student by the name of Russ Feingold lobbied the administration for open campus.

"gazette do research btw- 9th graders werent even up at high scholl till 1989 BTW!!!!"
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"jvl4life- my reseaserch comes from BEING there. 9th graders came up the year I graduated in 89. In 87 I was a sophmore and NO freshman there still at marshall. same with 88"
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"jvl4life- you need to get out your yearbook if you dont believe us. the halls we ALWAYS crowded!!!!"
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"If I went to craig in 87 I was a sophmore and NO FRESHMAN were there"
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"dirtball hall was for dirtballs in 87 and 88 and repalced by freshman in 89. I wouldnt be calling kids dirtballs in 87 if it was truely freshman hall now would I."

All of the statements with capitalization, exclamation points calling people wrong when you were incorrect the entire time and I'M Rude?

mmof3: No one is actually arguing whether Craig or Parker is better...they are arguing over what year freshman were moved to the high schools... Also, some lunch privledges are earned by students. Some get double lunches for not being late to class. But that is only for juniors and seniors.

Seems like some on here haven't gotten passed the caddiness of junior high and here it is 2009. Huh.

StaceyU2: The different colors and designs are probably to make it easier for the lunch monitors to tell the students in closed campus from those in open campus. Kinda like the under 21 licenses.....

I believe you when you say it is 88. BUT I am a have to see it for myself because I believe it was 89. sorry.

I again will say KEEP THEM AT SCHOOL.
If they like to walk home for lunch- pack whatever it is that they would have eaten at home!!!we built a EXPENSIVE cafe so you could eat there so USE IT!! YES WE- i pay taxes enough for both cafes.


callit.. are you calling me a drunk or stoner-
now youre just getting rude!!!! I didnt try pot till out of school and it sucks. yes I drank some underage so did a lot but sorry not at school I was not a member of dirtball hall or a preppy that hid it from others except their own friends.

Drunk or a "Stoner"....

Okay enough Craig is this... and Parker is that... WOW way too many people reliving past irritations from high school here... GROW UP!!
Reality is that there ARE issues with a mass number of kids leaving a school building at once. Safety is an issue even though people want to ignore that and put "rights" above "reality". Don't cry mommy and daddy when something bad happens at your Open Lunch. It should be an earned priviledge not a right. Too many things are handed over without having to put forth any effort.
As far as the "Craig has the problems" argument... again GROW UP!!!
Parker had gang fights in their lunchroom last year as I recall reading in the paper.
Neither school is perfect. Shame on all of you for making this a way to pit one side against the other, no wonder we are in such a sorry state.

And those of you that think it wasn't in 87-88, must have been drunk during open campus. Do your homework! Jesus.

And Paul Ryan was a senior when the first freshmen class was there.

Wow, I love how someone actually proved freshman were there in '87-'88, but some people don't believe them (and by some people I only mean one). Why would someone lie about pulling out the actual yearbook? And I think the first sentence of this article is wrong when it included ninth-graders. It probably means the first time anyone was allowed off campus. Did you know Paul Ryan was the one that pushed for it when he went to Craig? (interesting fact, I know!)

FYI, I know this because I was in the first freshmen class.

Sorry, I meant 1987-1988. Typo.

Hannah - The first freshmen class to ever attend Craig and Parker high schools was in the years 1997-1988. It was the class of 1991.

One of my kids had a fellow classmate in two classes as a freshman, one in the morning, one in the afternoon. The first two or three weeks the student participated in both classes equally. By October they had met up with some "stoners" (my term, not my child's) and he was still a good student in the morning class but now the afternoon was a bust after smoking pot at lunch. Pretty soon they were high in the morning as well and probably helping lower city wide ACT scores.

Freshman left the junior highs and moved up to the high schools in the 1987-1988 school year!!

callitasiseeit- why must you follow me around and call me seriel blogger- youre a serial follower how cant stop complaining about me blogging and has nothing to say on the subjects. Funny you only say I am in correct BUT you dont say the other person who agrees with me is incorrect. I will check my book this eve. so when I am correct will you still call me incorrect? IF i am wrong I will admit it freely.

It doesnt matter to me my point in the first palce was the GAZETTE mentioned freshman have been there SINCE 1971 which IS incorrect. I would like to know when they were there before 1989. 71-89 is in question.

dirtball hall was for dirtballs in 87 and 88 and repalced by freshman in 89. I wouldnt be calling kids dirtballs in 87 if it was truely freshman hall now would I.

Wasnt one of the reasons they wanted to spend money on expanding these cafeterias was so that they could close the campus to freshman. I may not be remembering correctly.

Because of the lack of eateries by Parker it has always been somewhat rare for Freshman to go out for lunch. When I was a student there you would only be able to go out if you had an older friend or sibling who drove. Presumably the older student would have a little more maturity and get them both back on time. If you can walk you don't necessarily have that older student keeping an eye out for you, that's why it makes sense to close the lunch at Craig, and see how it goes at Parker before doing the same thing.
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Personally I think we should let the kids have a little freedom until they show they can't handle it.

alyssas71- But, but, but! Sending them to the library was an integral part of my overall plan to get people to turn off the computer, get out into the fresh air, enter the library, go all the way back to the Janesville Room, and hopefully see what the library has to offer on the way. And YOU had to go and ruin it. Curses! Foiled again! :)
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CallitasIseeit- Using that logic, I would have to agree with you. And don't forget DQ right there across the street too. That makes twice as many options for the freshmen class.
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What about the kids that live a couple blocks from school, should they be allowed to go home to eat? What about their close friends? Should they be able to join them?

Since Parker freshman have no local eateries to walk to, shouldn't they have closed campus and Craig be open with Italian house right there?

See, I resisted the temptation to tell someone they were wrong.

Ok, I cant believe I am going to admit it, but I still have my Craig yearbooks and in the 1988 yearbook which would have been 87-88, there are pictures of Freshman with the title Freshman Class Joins crowd for the first time. Hopefully this will put the arguement to rest and save some gas for those on their way to the library and we can move back to the overall article.

perhaps she SHOULD do some research. 1987-1988 WAS indeed the first year freshman went to the high schools. just because you "call it as you see it" does not mean you are correct

That someone suggested that Hannah do research before posting is laughable. I would encourage first to THINK before posting. That would be a good start.

Of course it looks like she is wrong again on this subject, but it will not slow down her serial posting.

I think a few of you may be confused. This story is about whether or not freshman can leave for lunch this year. I am impressed that one comment sparked this tremendous tangant though....amazing

OK, this is my first comment but had to laugh at the discussion regarding when 9th graders moved. I was in the last 9th grade class at Marshall, which graduated June of 1987. I entered Craig as a Sophmore in August of 1987 and we brought the Freshmen with us. Believe me, I remember, as we were so happy to never have to be the youngest class at Craig. Rumors were rampant that the Sophmore class would get hassled by the Juniors and Seniors when entering Craig. Thanks to the change from a Jr High to Middle School structure, the Freshmen joined us at Craig and they had to take the heat! They gave the Freshmen the old 'dirtball hall' where the shop classes were held.

The Janesville 9th graders moved to the high schools at the beginning of the 1987-1988 school year.
If you do not believe us that 9th graders moved up that year, go to the Janesville Room at the Hedberg Public Library and check out the old yearbooks. Look at the 86-87 book and see that there were 10-12 grades there and then look at the 87-88 book and see that there were 9-12 grades there.

If I went to craig in 87 I was a sophmore and NO FRESHMAN were there.

This sucks for the owner of the Italian House. Especially after moving to the larger building.

This seems odd, because different people seem to have different recollections of when the 9th grade class started at the high schools. I was under the impression it was the 87-88 school year as well (that was the year I started Middle School at Edison and they had moved the 9th graders out and had not yet moved the 6th graders in). If the 9th graders were still at Edison in 87-88 then I have an absolutely terrible recollection (which is possible, I guess, it was over half my life ago). I know for a fact it was not the 89-90 school year (that was the year I was a freshman and I know we were not the first freshman class). It was either the 87-88 school year or the 88-89 school year. Those of you telling others to check their yearbooks, maybe you should do it too rather than relying on memory on something over 20 years ago.

well it seems danias that the two of us WERE there and the two who disagree werent.

It was weird to see the freshman- they seemed SO SMALL and young. Reminds me of sixteen candles movie. I still think it should be 7,8,9, at middle school.

Is this why 13 yr olds and hanging with 17 yr old on the circuit "looking for hotties"

Jvl4life, My group was the first freshmans to enter Craig HS in 1989. My husband graduated at Parker in 1988 and no freshmans were there!

I must be in prison at work- I dont leave for lunch and it is a WAY longer day than school.
I agree keep them there except for sr and maybe jr . Tha tis still enough business to support It house.

jvl4life- you need to get out your yearbook if you dont believe us. the halls we ALWAYS crowded!!!!

jvl4life- my reseaserch comes from BEING there. 9th graders came up the year I graduated in 89. In 87 I was a sophmore and NO freshman there still at marshall. same with 88

I've read the posted menus for Milton HS and thought it would've been nice to have that many choices when I went to school. And I wouldn't say having to stay at school all day constitutes as "prison".
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SarahB1 - I'm with you on your observation, too. Don't get it. What a waste.

Where do they to go on lunch anyway, do they have to run to the bank to pay some bills? There is no reason to let any student off campus, my tax dollars were to go to closing the campus for lunch!!

danias-Nope, it was the year of 1987-1988-It was my last year of high school and I remember the crowded halls at Parker.

I am glad my kids go to Milton, I do not agree with open campus for any grade regardless of if you are 18 or not. The kids drive like maniacs around Craig during the lunch hour, it is dangerous, keep them all at school.

What.. Nobody complaining about the color of the student ID's???
Why Red and Blue??
Why have them in different card design??
WHY? WHy?? Why???

cardtrader, Milton High school never runs out of meals. It might not be your kids first choice but there most definitely was a full meal for them. They operate 6 lines of food choices, way more than most schools.

I actually think kids should stay on campus for lunch. I know we would have if we had the space and offerings they do now. It's too bad for local bizs but it's better for everyone else.

Why did we spend so much money improving these cafeterias if a good share of the student body doesn't even eat on campus? This makes no sense to me.

Ninth graders came to the high schools in the Fall of 1987 in the Janesville School District. I was in the last class of ninth graders at the Jr. Highs and both my class and the eighth grade class behind me went to the high schools that fall.

Jvl4life they started 9th grade in 1989 at least in the Janesville school area.

I think they have this a little bassackwards. If you close lunch to freshmen THIS year and sophomores NEXT year, you are in essence "punishing" these kids twice. Might as well just say campus is closed to the classes of 12 and 13 NOW and level the playing field.
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I'm proud of Dr. Schroeder for taking a more positive approach than a reactive one like his Craig counterpart has. Maybe there ARE issues at Craig and it isn't always the "other side" of town that gets into trouble. *eye roll*

There where many days that my kids came home from school complaining that they did not have enough lunches to go around at Milton High School, all they are worried about is the money the state gives them for school lunches, but the kids dont have to eat. Terrible system here they need to open campus for the Juniors and Seniors to leave for lunch they have a McDonalds at one end of town , a bowling alley and now a new restaurant a block away from school. At least the kids will be able to have a good hot lunch instead of peanut butter sandwich when they run short of a hot meals

Try Milton they lock you down like an inmate, as far as the surrounding business's go the school board could care less if they make it or not.

Wow, glad I was never restricted. Of course, my entire high school was only 560 or so students.

hannah-Where did you do your research? The 9th graders started attending the high schools beginning 1987-1988 school year.

I think the idea to keep freshmen on campus is a good idea, however I don't like the idea of keeping freshman and sophomores on campus for lunch. Even though the Italian House would be more open to juniors and seniors, most of them drive to different restaurants and don't eat at IHouse etc...after sophomore year. If sophomore's were kept on campus it would mean less money for the restaurants close to campus. And keeping kids on campus for lunch is not necessarily going to solve the tobacco/drug problem.

The JSD will have to hire more cafeteria workers ?? How will they handle 375 plus students going thru the junk food lines with the staff they have now ?? I bet Pizza Hut and Subway are glad to hear this news !!!

I'm glad they are doing open campus my son will be a sophmore and he gets a better meal at the Italian house for his money than at school. Prices at school keep going up and you hardly get anything!

mks2008- ONLY 9th graders- the rest will still be there.

wow this takes care of the "craig gets everything" not this time!!

I think they should be in the million dollar cafe they just built. you go to school to learn and you should be there all day.
I think open campus should ONLY be for srs or if over 18. Keep them all at school.

gazette do research btw- 9th graders werent even up at high scholl till 1989 BTW!!!!

sweet - now italian house will be usable @ lunch!