On stimulus, still some questions
WASHINGTON Before the opponents of health care reform turned congressional town meetings into shouting matches, they had picked another target. The naysayers announced to the world that the economic stimulus bill signed by President Obama in February was a dismal failure, too.
That judgment seemed premature at the time, and it looks even shakier now that the Federal Reserve Board has concluded the economy, which was in free-fall last winter, has stabilized and “is leveling out.” To probe the question further, I spent the other morning at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, which scheduled a panel discussion on the topic. Three Brookings scholars and a suburban Washington mayor agreed on one thing: No one can realistically pronounce the massive $787 billion stimulus bill either a flop or a triumph at this point.
As one of the panelists said, the bill that was quickly assembled and hastily passed by a Congress frightened that the economy might collapse at any moment, “was a hodgepodge package and we are getting hodgepodge results.” Economist Barry Bosworth launched the discussion on a skeptical note, saying that the recession might be ending, but “the government stimulus did not have a lot to do with the recovery.”
Bosworth complained that in the autumn of 2008, when the election was uppermost on politicians’ minds, Congress was tardy in responding to the warning signs of what became the worst slump since the Great Depression. As a result, funds have been delayed in reaching hard-hit communities.
But Bosworth later conceded that when consumers’ disposable income was dropping early this year at an annual rate of half a trillion dollars, the government stepped in with tax cuts, direct payments and extended unemployment benefits that “completely offset” the hemorrhaging of the private economy.
“That’s a pretty amazing accomplishment,” he said.
Other panelists pointed to more familiar accomplishments—the stimulus money to states and local governments that will postpone or avoid layoffs of teachers and police officers. Most of those benefits have not registered yet with the public because, as school finance specialist Grover J. “Russ” Whitehurst pointed out, of the $115 billion in stimulus funds allocated to the Department of Education, checks have been written for only $13 billion. A mere $25 million has been contracted for specific projects.
Obviously, this strengthens the critics’ argument that much of the stimulus money—all of it borrowed from our overseas creditors—won’t be spent until the economy is already on the mend.
But the most important thing I learned from the session was not what was right and wrong about the stimulus bill. After all, it is not likely to be rescinded or significantly altered by the Congress that passed it.
Rather, what emerged in much clearer focus is what we are likely to face when 2010, the year when stimulus spending will peak, is over, and we have to figure out what to do next. At that point, Obama will be under great pressure to slow down the frantic pace of federal spending and to address the unprecedented deficits of this year and next.
But, as Amy Liu, the panel’s expert on state and local finances, pointed out, the vast differences in local economies will clearly leave some cities and metropolitan areas in need of help. As of March, unemployment rates ranged from a low of 5.1 percent in Provo, Utah, to a high of 17.5 percent in Modesto, Calif.
Long after Provo can dispense with federal aid, Modesto and other cities such as Toledo and Detroit are likely to require assistance. Congress will not be eager to pass another big national stimulus bill, but some way will have to be found to funnel funds to the places where they are most needed.
Meantime, there’s no quick fix for many communities. Chris Zimmerman, a county board member in the Washington suburb of Arlington, Va., pointed out that property taxes—the mainstay of local budgets—typically take two years to recover after the bottom of a recession. This means that at best, mayors and council members will be looking for help even when 2011 rolls around.
David Broder is a columnist for The Washington Post. Readers may write to him via e-mail at davidbroder@washpost.com.

Aug 18, 2009 at 7:52 p.m.
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Your posts in this thread alone are enough to back my statement puppeteer.
Aug 18, 2009 at 11:44 a.m.
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RAF - Show me exactly where I said I know so much, or put that sock puppet back in your mouth. It is only the ignorant who post lies as truths.
Aug 18, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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For a guy who claims to know so much...your abilities to guess others situations show how immature and ignorant you really are.
Aug 18, 2009 at 8:51 a.m.
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What, they let you out of rehab again, RAF?
Aug 17, 2009 at 11:19 p.m.
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Chad where did you and the puppets go?
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:08 a.m.
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RAF...Did you ever stop to think there could be two people at the same location that just have the same opinions of the idiot GOP base.
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.
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RAF...I guess you still don't get it. I am NOT chad. Your grey matter must consist of concrete, which wouldn't surprise me.
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
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Alright puppeteer. I am off for most of the day, have fun posting with the puppets while I am gone.
Aug 17, 2009 at 10:02 a.m.
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Ummm... you said something?....
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:52 a.m.
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Chad perhaps you and the puppets should read the long version of rules under the User Policy Agreement; more specifically were is says
"Users agree NOT to: create multiple user accounts...on this site. http://gazettextra.com/UserPolicy/
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:49 a.m.
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I don't have to market anything, your ignorance is representative of the GOP and provides many with insight to backwards thinking that has become the norm for someone from your age group.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:40 a.m.
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Yes...and all of them are here defending puppets at the same time...lol. You are not very good at marketing, you could almost charge for this type of entertainment.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:36 a.m.
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RAF...I guess two people can't be on the Gazette website at the same time. That just goes to show how ignorant you are.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:36 a.m.
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Wow, you can tell time. Good to see you have SOME mental faculties yet. But wait Matlock, you may just have many people who disagree with you. Big Surprise.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:30 a.m.
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lol, chad (the puppeteer) along with puppet #1 & #2 just posted within 4 minutes of each other...hilarious.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:17 a.m.
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RAF... If you can't figure that out no wonder you were in the AF.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:16 a.m.
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Wrong again, RetiredAirFart, just like you are wrong about everything else. You are the one who made the rule change to change topics. I didn't want to make you mad and dribble your prune juice.
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:12 a.m.
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Interesting Chad and the puppets post almost at the same time...
Aug 17, 2009 at 9:05 a.m.
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Chad, I have a question. Are you now condoning posting off topic or is it still not a good thing to do?
Aug 17, 2009 at 8:54 a.m.
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RetiredAirForce reminds me of Pee Wee Herman yelling "I know you are, but what am I" all the time, amongst other things Pee Wee got caught doing.
Aug 17, 2009 at 8:26 a.m.
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Sock puppet are you talking to yourself or me?
Aug 17, 2009 at 7:29 a.m.
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What did RAF bonehead say?
Aug 16, 2009 at 12:16 p.m.
Aug 16, 2009 at 12:06 p.m.
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What did the sock puppet say?
Aug 16, 2009 at 11:30 a.m.
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I wonder who the RetiredAirForce bonehead is?
Aug 16, 2009 at 10:26 a.m.
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Can the CBO pick lottery numbers for me? They also predicted that before years end I would be a year older. :)
Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 a.m.
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I wonder who the troll is behind "RetireAirForce"?
Aug 16, 2009 at 9:31 a.m.
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How about everyone in the USA get a 4500 check for health care just like the 4500 CARS voucher for only a few 100,000 people? Why not put the US in gazillion dollar debt instead of trillions and spend tons more money we do NOT have??? Typical govt. spending that needs to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 16, 2009 at 9:24 a.m.
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I see you're misguided again, but what else could I expect from you.
Aug 16, 2009 at 9:11 a.m.
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"it looks even shakier now that the Federal Reserve Board has concluded the economy, which was in free-fall last winter, has stabilized and “is leveling out.”
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Broder decided not to mention the CBO office predicted the economy would also recover before years end without a stimulus package...but as my admirer said it must be all Bush's fault.
Aug 16, 2009 at 8:40 a.m.
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If anyone is at fault, it is George Bush. All through 2007 it was his mantra, "the economy is fundamentally sound. We all now know this to be a complete falsehood. The Republicans are a bunch of boneheads. Their only concern is how to line their pockets on the backs of hardworking Americans.
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