I think I know the answer to that, hanna. With him being so much smarter than everyone else, Joker probably graduated from college at age 18 or so with a masters degree. This enabled him to start making his fortune in international finance at age 18. Therefore, by the age of 22 or so, he was rich, him being so much smarter than everyone else (as we all know).

Latinmami-well said. You've proven that you know the score and you've also made clear what you're top concern is...we need more people like you who care about the kids. Hannah-by any chance, is joker some sort of a lawn boy? Just guessing.

Latinmami, who made you judge and jury on the guilt of this suspect? If you do not understand how our legal system works by now, then there is no hope. Look, admit that I have an excellent point and we can move on.
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I never said that I didn't understand how are justice system works, in fact I fully understand how it works. Maybe you don't understand how society works here, people get upset when things happen that hurt other people especially when a child is involved, and people voice their thoughts and feelings on these issues and all of us do know he is going to go to court DUH. You may want to read up on how people function in society, they normally don't brag about what they have or say they have.

hannah, have mercy!!! Joker's off in the corner with a dunce cap on licking his wounds!!!

I was also wondering, Joker, since you have achieved success beyond any of our wildest dreams and riches that would make Robin Leach drool, have you done anything like help out those in need? That may make you worthy of "the respect and honor you deserve". Man, give me a break...

Joker, I admit that even though you continuously chastise people for their spelling and grammer, you have as many errors in yours. All in all, you probably more total errors because of the fact that you can't seem to refrain from posting endlessly about your wealth of knowledge about everything under the sun and all of your worldly possessions and brilliant business deals and women begging for your companionship and BLAH BLAH BLAH...tell you what, I'll add to your fortune and give you a dollar if you'll go away to one of your many summer homes and pat yourself on the back there instead of here. That would rule.

The joker might be thekid with some really honkin' reefer.

I guess we aren't moving on ....

"I have done very well for myself and I would appreciate the respect and honor I deserve."

Joker definitely found exactly the amount of respect and honor that he deserves right here.
LOL, did he ever.

Justaguy, I think my bank accounts and awards speak for themselves. I put my money where my mouth is. What you don't know could fill a book.

Latinmami, who made you judge and jury on the guilt of this suspect? If you do not understand how our legal system works by now, then there is no hope. Look, admit that I have an excellent point and we can move on.

"All in favor of bringing back draw and quartering raise their hands." Oh oh me me both hands are up....
"Short drop and sudden stop sounds pretty good to me" Noooo make the drop REALLY REALLY LOOOOONG then the sudden stop!
Needs to be proven guilty first, eh? I think HE DID THAT ALREADY all by himself.
Poison, that sounds good too...prolong it, make it more painful...
It must be some kind of new pot cause the pot I smoked all those years ago didn't make me ready to shoot and kill someone in front of their 5 y/o child.
Wait...I think I'm becoming too uncivilized now!

lol that is funny.... E-Bay....

P.S. to the Joker, selling on E-Bay doesn't make you some sort of Big Wig ....

I now know why this guy calls himself the Joker .... he more than anyone here knows he's the biggest fool around and he says some of the dumbest things i've ever heard.

Joker: I'm still waiting for you to respond to YOUR post on April 24 at 10:49 am. Sounds to me that you were just as guilty as those you called out on here....

Honey, I know how the justice system works. I need no education from you in that area, but thanks, anyway.
I was simply stating an opinion to what I think.
Perhaps you should learn to tell the difference.

Again, this guy can have his day in court, but he was caught in the act do you really think he is not guilty and do you not think it is better for people to get out their anger and hurt here and not physically on someone. These forums are for people to discuss and just because you don't like what is said does not mean we are beneath you at all. You think you are high and mighty but you are not.

Justaguy, I do work and also do some international commerce so I work all kinds of hours. My poking around these message boards are done when I take a break for a few minutes. I am also monitoring many newspaper websites and financial websites for the various transactions I have with all of my business holdings.

Mikki, you called nothing on me. In fact, I am proud to say that I brought reason and calm into this discussion. You and the others were ready to string up this murder suspect without a fair trial and due process. I was more than happy to educate you and the others on how our justice system works.

that's right Mikki, I had fun with it, somedays it is nice to come on the forums and it turn into some innocent fun, usually things here are very serious

So what's wrong with having a little fun? Someone insults us, repeatedly tells us we're jealous of his hallucinatory fantasy world, and we called him on it.
It's perhaps the ONE AND ONLY time we all agree on something.
We are relishing in that.
Maybe later we'll move on to all disagree again.

Joker: you ask if any of us work just for the reason that we are all on here? if you use your head your on here also .... what a moron, meant in a nice way of course :-)

Sorry this is me if it offended you, not meant to do that, you can skip by our posts though and not respond to ours if you don't like what is being said and you can post something else that might change the subject of what has been posted, if you continue to post about what we have been posting on you probably won't get the response you were hoping for.

SERIOUSLY... Y'all really need to get back to the topic at hand. I come out here to read and possibly post intelligent discussion and I find a bunch of people, that don't know each other, bashing like 5 year old. Ok.. Joker, we get it, your successful, a stud, and blah blah... good for you. I'm glad that everything worked out for you. Hannah and Latinmami... again we get it. This is a case of mine is bigger then yours. You don't like Joker and the way that he brags... get over it already. Adding fuel to his fire only makes the fire bigger. He is negative about things, so is everyone else. We live in a negative world as can be seen by the crime that we all blog about. Bragging about yourself on a news blog isn't going to get you anything but, if the rest of us are lucky enough, removed.

You all make very good contributions to the discussions and reading these blogs is one of the highlights of my day. Either I'm laughing or crying, but today I am just sickened by the bashing. Enough is enough.

Did you know the Jokers imaginary land has a Bed Bath and Beyond on the west side and only one high school for 3,600 students?

sounds like we are all set then lol

latin: and my daughter has the dream kitchen....

LOL we can all get together at barbie's dream house so we can play in Joker's imaginary land lol lol lol

OOOOooo.......Joker, you're SO scary!

Joker: 3 homes and a cottage? I didn't know Little Tykes' Cozy Cottages and play houses counted!!? If that's the case, then I have a Corvette, Batmobile and VW Bug.

Joker we have lives unlike you they do not consist of bragging about what imaginary life we want. After all that bragging you have done you still have not stated what it is you do, if you have three home i would guess you work right? You say you have such great talents then why is it you have not shared that with us? Hannah you are way better than joker and his 3 card board boxes in the alley he calls home(s)

hannah, shut joker down!!!

Glad to see all of my friends are on this board. Do any of you work? I guess not. I suggest you quit flapping your gums and do something constructive. Mob mentality is a scary thing.

Either get back to the topic or get lost.

I'm pretty sure I have it figured out who Joker is. What a fricking JOKE is right!

Hannah: are you dizzy from all of those circles YOU just ran around Joker? You go girl!

Yes, by all means get back to the trailer park. The grass over in the back 40 needs mowing.

Joker is concerned with his "holdings" right now. It's easy to figure out what he's holding.

Shopiere is not a real town because..... Wow Joker you really are a joke.

SOMEBODY likes attention!


Can we get back to talking about the scumbag already? I'm sick of the Joke's self absorbed drama wanting...

-quote- Ok, I am done making fools out of all of you. Time to get back to my business holdings and real estate deals.
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Burger king has a real estate division now?

Thejoker, stfu. Open your eyes no one likes you :) Go back to your cave where you belong.

Shopiere,once again,all I have to say is that you live in Shopiere. Enough said. Get back to me when you live in a real town with people.

Ok, I am done making fools out of all of you. Time to get back to my business holdings and real estate deals.

Six figures? the Joker. You're not supposed to count the numbers to the right of the decimal point.

the sad thing, i mean one of the SAD things about joker is that he defines success by money and houses. wow. SAD.

Jeez Joker, the ladies on here totally owned you the other day, bless their hearts. They stepped right on yours. Now you are back with the same distasteful braggadocio that got you there to begin with and they are doing the same. I am still ROTFLMAO!

Yea Hannah the kind of woman that Joker has are probably the woman most men don't want so yet again bragging about things that really don't matter. Most people brag about their kids, and their significant others not how many homes they have or how many woman and the people who do that do it because of low self esteem and inadequacy in the bedroom department. So far I am not impressed by anything the Joker has presented, he has not even said what his precious talent is yet or why he is so successful.

Joker do you come on here and brag about yourself because in the real world you are not seen as you describe yourself on here? Do you really care that much how any of us feel about you? I would hope not because I am not going to lose any sleep over what you think about me

Latin, your comments about my mother show your lack of class. And your comment about me being a serial killer is in really bad taste. Just when I thought you could not make yourself look even more foolish, you add these latest comments. I am done arguing with the witless.

Let it go gals... He enjoys this!

Ok, everyone, go ahead and attack me. I know you are just jealous
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Not jealous, and no we are not laughing with you we are laughing at you and your absurd need to be praised, did your mother not breast feed you is that why you need so much attention?

Okay Joker no one even knows what your so called talent is, and as far as the homes good for you but just because you have 3 houses does not mean you just get to be respected, for all i know you are serial killer with 3 homes. Big deal right. What is it that you do that you feel so entitled and above the rest of us? As for bashing someone for typing errors that makes you petty, why do you care if someone spells something wrong you were still able to read and understand what Hannah wrote right, I am sure that you got the point that like the rest of us she is not impressed by your so called life.

Oh, my poor Hannah. I doubt you are that successful. Your recent post had spelling errors and typos. I was already making six figures by the age of 23 and owned 1 home and was building my summer cottage when I was 22.
I do not brag on this page. I am just proud of what I have done in my life and I feel I am entitled to the respect my talents and success deserve. I also have more women in my life right NOW than most men would ever have in their whole lives.

Ok, everyone, go ahead and attack me. I know you are just jealous.

I didn't say you collected cans. They were action figures.
But if you collect cans, there is nothing to be ashamed about. That's cool.
And I have never rented a house from you. THAT I can guarantee.

Oh and by the way Joker your name is perfect because you are the biggest Joke that has been on these forums, oh and by the way my home you did not own. I own it. Just because you own three homes, that does not mean squat because you must be missing a whole lot of other things in your life since you need to brag, oh what is that called again ladies when a man needs to brag about his material possesions, oh right it is SMALL man syndrome and Joker if you don't know what that is just check next time you are showering.

Latinmami, here is an idea. Try coming up with your own intelligent thoughts instead of reciting mine.
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Where did I recite your ridiculous ideas? I copied and pasted your posts so that way you would not get confused and you would know I was talking to you, but I now see even with the copy and past process you still can not comprehend that no one on here wants to be like you, you are an invisible troll that I do not know nor do I care to know, you have so much success then what are you doing on here bragging about it loser. People who are successful don't need to brag about it there actions show that they are successful. Oh and just because you may have some money does not make you successful, I don't have a ton of money but I am damn successful, I have a great husband, children, job, and home to live in now that to me is success.

Where do I begin? As usual, people on this board go on the attack mode! Just a guy, no, I don't live with my family, in a basement and collect cans. I actually have three homes that I enjoy spending my time in and have them because of my hard work and skill. I am sure at one time I owned your house that you rented and more than likely, I evicted your fat behind.

Latinmami, here is an idea. Try coming up with your own intelligent thoughts instead of reciting mine. Yes, murder is emotional and wrong but these comments about lynching and doing nasty things to this alleged killer is really out of line.

Hannah, I thought the last time I ran circles around you, you learned your lesson. If you want me to make you look like a fool again, I am more than happy to do it. I suggest you give up before I make your head spin ago and you sneak away with your tail between your legs.

Shopiere, what can I say, except that you live in Shopiere. Enough said. Lulu? Please, this is too easy. Your name says it all!

I would hope that people on this board would have some class and common sense. After the past few years, I think there is hardly any of that left in Janesville.

haze08: My sister was murdered by a self-absorbed, abusive sociopath and don't be so sure this hicke creep will spend his life in jail because my family thought the same thing about my sister's murderer only to have a fat ass governor(dreyfus) commute the loser's sentence to 50 years(which made him immediately eligible for parole on a first degree murder charge). So, not only was my family devastated by the murder, we had to watch our backs wondering if this sociopath was going to do what he threatened to do once he was released from prison.

so im super happy that someone got him in jail...that made my day when my cousin told me that some guy PURPOSELY went to jail just to being the living snot out of him...i dont understand what kind of justice Kyle thought he was serving but ok...now its his turn to finally feel her pain.

It was pretty shallow and self-centered of him to shot her when there was people outside let alone her 5 year old son! im not saying that hes should have did it any where else or at all for that matter. Well i hope he is happy now...he took something away from Damon(her son) and everyone else that CAN NEVER BE RETURNED!!!

To be honest i dont think he will make it 3-6 months in jail/prison; as soon as people find out what he did they will more than likely beat the piss outta him and probaly kill him!!! and he deserves everything he has coming to him!!!!

Mikki....O...M.....G!!! I just choked on my soda. A cape also comes to mind.

momof5...hey, no harm no foul.
One thread is one, another is another. I am not one to hold grudges.

This person DOES remind me of some sad, little man, (let's pretend I am a criminal profiler, shall we?)
Short, fat, balding. Underachiever. Lives in the basement or spare room of his parents' home. Abused animals as a child. Is "excited" by photos of clowns. Has a collection of various action figures, which he has arranged in alphabetical order. Wears Superman underwear. Has a glandular disorder which causes him to sweat at all times, and he smells like a mixture of sourkraut and beef jerky. He wets the bed on occasion. The Google searches always contain the words "midgets, toasters and burlap".
Really, we should pity him.

you're right gma.

Yes, does anyone know how the family is doing?

Momof5, Mikki and others... we are better served to just ignore Joker - can we say troll?

Does anyone know how her family is holding up?

Mikki: I know you called me pathetic on a different thread for doing this. But, really, I cannot help myself here. Please fasten your seatbelts and enjoy the ride....

Joker Joker Joker.... You come on here saying things like "innocent until proven guilty" and "allegedly" and "mean spirited" and "let this guy have his day in court." What a fine, noble, principle based human being you are.

Now that I just inflated your ego to the point of bursting, PLEASE explain this post of yours on April 24, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. re: Kyle Hicke........

"I can only hope this criminal starts to feel pain very soon! Sounds like he is setting up a defense of mental illness or drug induced criminal action. Regardless, he will rot in prison and then in a place where it is quite hot and filled with fire and pitchforks."

People lets get back to the subject and forget about the joker, Erica was a good mother to Damon and he will never have his mothers sweet embrace anymore because of Kyle, as you can tell I knew Erica. My prayers go out to the whole family and her son's father James!

Anyone can make themselves look all important and successful on the INTERNET! Congrats, Joker... You and a billion other people have figured it out!


P.S, Most "Successful" don't have to come on to a newspaper blog site to feel all high and mighty... They actually have LIVES to make themselves feel good.

"I do not have an ego. I am serious when I talk about my success. I have done very well for myself and I would appreciate the respect and honor I deserve."

"i'll bet your living in your mama's basement and pickup pop cans for money..."

"yes joker please share with us that is so important to yourselfish self about what you do and we will decide how important you really arent..."

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! That is some good stuff right there. Thank you very much.

Regarding the attacks on me, I think you are just jealous of my success.
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I don't even know what your success is by the way so there is no way for me to be jealous and really no matter what you do, I will think I am better because you have an ugly attitude, anyone who has to brag about themselves does not have as much in life as they are trying to make it seem.

My problem with the comments is that they are uncivilized and irrational
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but it was civilized for him to kill a woman in front of her child, our comments do not hurt you or anyone else more than what has happened so if you are so offended then don't come on this forum. People are angry and people are hurt and we all have the right to express this.

Joker: your that big of a fool that you think anyone really cares about your success or what you think about who live where or who's better than the other? Like anyone cares, and about your success .. i'll bet your living in your mama's basement and pickup pop cans for money "nothing wrong with either" unless your the Joker and full of yourself.In otherwords we all have right to voice what we think about this worthless killer.

Once again, the lynch mob and the fools come together to spout nonsense all over this board. No, I am not a supporter of this career criminal. He will soon get what he deserves. My problem with the comments is that they are uncivilized and irrational. And Janesville people make fun of and look down on Beloit people? What a joke. I am starting to think Beloit has ten times the class that Janesville has. Regarding the attacks on me, I think you are just jealous of my success.

If I could legally use a "torch and pitchfork" I'd save Rock County a crap load of wasted money putting this scum through the court system, then on to our TAX PAYING BACKS for the rest of his miserable life!

Joker said: ""I do not have an ego." I am serious when I talk about my success. I have done very well for myself and I would appreciate the respect and honor I deserve."

Anyone else see an oxymoron in this statement

oh, hannah.
Looks like someone can dish it out but can't take it.
Poor baby. Wait...poor, rich, attractive, connected, successful, (am I missing something?)
LMAO

The Joker you want some respect well let me just shed some light here, this is a forum on a news papers website, you are no different than anyone else in here, you are no better either, so you can take the high and might garbage and stick it where Hicke's sun don't shine

hannah, don't forget the "I smoked pot" part.
Although, if he WAS really stoned, he would have been driving a whole lot slower. Actually, he probably wouldn't even have been motivated to get off the couch.

thats hilarious gazette. i cant put a LETTER on your blog that symbolizes a bodily function in reference to a cold blooded killer but you can put a picture of that same cold blooded killer on the front page of your paper wiht a gesture symbolizing one of the worst words for my kids to see?? thats fair. you cant see me mr angus, but i am showing you the same image you printed. good day.

Respect is earned from people, and the way you talk down to people, you aren't getting any from some of us here. Conceit and pride are two different things.
I really don't think anyone cares how "well connected" you are. You're not important to me or my family or my life.

Joker: you tell people they should watch what they post after you call us all trolls? is this the same Joker that sounds so full of envy over the GM workers that have lost thier jobs? This killer shouldn't have a day in court,it's a done deal that he did it and did it only for the reason that he was feeling sorry for himself.Yes we have to go by the laws but it's pretty much all said and done what he did ... he's a waste on this earth, not worth the waste of our tax dollars. P.S. i'd pay for the rope.

read the article about the father that was printed yesterday, yes the apple does not fall far from the tree. From what is described of the father seems like he is violent man as well. So if you want to be the defender of this family Joker have at it, but as far as I am concerned I have no sympathy for Kyle for what he will have to face the rest of his life because that is nothing compared to what he did to that little boy and his mother.

Latin, what family are you talking about? His father has nothing to do with this. Are you trying to lay the groundwork for the suspect being abused by his father?

I also take offense to people calling lawyers "sharks". This is not right. There are some excellent lawyers in this county and you should be ashamed of yourselves for using this term.

I am not patting myself on the back and no, I do not have an ego. I am serious when I talk about my success. I have done very well for myself and I would appreciate the respect and honor I deserve.

Kyle acted alone, but from the other stories of the father being caught with guns and he is a felon also and something with child welfare and the father in the article yesterday, both kyle and his father are creeps and don't deserve kindness from anyone

LATIN, what am I missing? You say 'these two'. I thought he acted alone? Please explain.

Remember, everything is alleged at this point.
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yeah he was allegedly caught on camera fleeing the police after killing a woman. Like I said before this is not a case where they found a dead body, then investigated then arrested, this is someone who was caught in the act

Joker you can write whatever you want about the legal system the damage this family has done is not okay. Yes we all know they will have their day in court. That does not mean that the people of this community don't have the right to be extremely upset by what has happened and it does not mean that we can't post the anger we have. These people took a little boys mother away from him forever, and in my book everyone has the right to say what they want about these two, you want to support them have at it but don't think anyone on here is going to do the same or agree with you nonsense

JOKER, I certainly hope your back feels better from your patting it. I am hoping your comments were pure sarcasm and you sincerely wouldn't toot your own horn as it appears you have. That is a HUGE no no. Yes, you are correct, he deserves his day in court, but, that is all it is going to be, another day. He is guilty, there is no question about that, the only hope he has is that an official didn't do his/her job properly. Let's just hope procedures were followed and there isn't a loop that was missed. Not to be harsh, but I am so happy it appears he is unable to afford a "shark" for a lawyer that could get him off on "something".
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Joker, I am sure you are a nice person, or you wouldn't care about the integrity of this man, so please find a better way to express yourself, you sound as if you need your ego stroked. :(

Latinmami, I think you need to be careful with what you post. You have a lot of nerve calling my comments dumb. Remember, everything is alleged at this point. He needs to be convicted first. I suggest you Google how the criminal legal system works. I am trying to educate you and the others who do not understand some basic concepts of our constitution and our Bill of Rights. I am more than happy to share my wealth of knowledge on this subject. However, I am not sure if you are willing to listen and learn.

Oh and by the way, no I am not that nut from previous posts. People who have read my posts before are well aware that I know what I am talking about, that I am well connected and that I am the voice of reason on these boards. Please spare me with you petty comments. I did not become very successful in business by my good looks alone. I think my bank accounts and college degrees demonstrate this.

Listen you trolls,no I am not related to him. (Thank God!)He is a career criminal, a jagoff and a screwed up person. My point is, he is entitled to his day in court. So before you string him up on the lamp post, he needs to be processed in our legal system. I am well aware of what he is charged with. But he has to be proven guilty first. Let's wait for that before we start acting like Dirty Harry.

Mikki... could be, ya think?

No doubt. There were witnesses. We don't need to rehash this tragic event. Obviously Joker and some girl (who shall remain nameless) are meant for each other. Unless...they are the same poster under different names... Could it be???

Wow! As I have said before... some people are simply poison. He is below a maggot. Courts or not, he should have been smothered at birth. Some people are NOT fit to breathe air!!!

Whoa, wait a minute...JOKER... are you related to him? That would certainly explain your comment!

really joker that is the stupidest thing i think anyone has ever posted, this is a man who shot a woman in front of her child then lead the police on a high speed chase, this isn't a case where they collected evidence and then went and arrested him, my god you may just be as sick and twisted as his family for saying that comment

You have GOT to be kidding me!
Hey, why don't you post his bail and have this guy date your daughter?
Wow, have you even been paying attention to what this guy has done? Or are you just into letting sickos like this free?

I cannot believe how mean spirted people are on this blog. Let this guy have his day in court and remember, innocent until proven guilty! The court process needs to run its course first. Put away your torches and pitchforks!!

Thank heavens for the million dollar cash bond!

I still like the chains and cinder blocks .......oh and the rising river

i have 3 daughters, my heart goes out to her parents.an eye for an eye.

There mere thought that this child at 5 years old, witnessed this horrific crime is just devastating! I could not imagine the therapy this kid is going to need. This guy deserves the death penalty, and deserves to suffer for this crime. The pure premeditation of this crime is enough to show how dangerous and unpredictable he is and he should not be released after committing this act.

I've been in a relationship that was physically abusive and aggressive and to think that this COULD have been me, if things had progressed as this situation did, is very scary. I thank God every day that I now have a loving family and wonderful man in my life now that has NEVER put a finger on me in anger! I pray for this child and family during their time of loss!

eatlessmovemore.... How about instead of putting him in prison on MY tax dollars for the rest of his miserable life, we have him live with you?

Loser!

Short drop and sudden stop sounds pretty good to me.

All in favor of bringing back draw and quartering raise their hands.

Yep, eye for an eye sounds good to me also, this guy said he wanted her to feel his pain? then let him feel her pain .... this "person" should have no more days on earth and I pity anyone who feels sorry for the crumb.

Sounds perfect to me.

Wow! God, prayer, Old Testament, and pro-death penalty all in one blog.

This simply makes me nauseous. Either of my daughters could have been her. I thank God every day that they have somehow managed to land on their feet and have direction in their lives. This young lady did not deserve what happened. I don't understand what drives people to this point of ending the life of another, especially when at one time they loved each other.

We are a sick society! That little child is on my prayer list daily... I just hope someone can ease the loss for this little one. How is that even possible though? Sickening!

Old testament here folks... "eye for an eye"... get him off my tax bill and be done with it! I am sooooo for the death penalty. Some people are just THAT sick, murdering a small child's mother in front of him!!!