Will city do away with one-ways?

By CATHERINE IDZERDA ( Contact )   Monday, Oct. 27, 2008
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"A plea for full cooperation from Janesville's drivers and pedestrians was issued today by City Manager George Forster and Police Chief Jasper A. Webb on the eve of the changeover from two-way traffic through the business district, a revolutionary step in the city's history." — Janesville Daily Gazette, Saturday, July 14, 1956.

And 52 years later...

A proposal to change Five Points intersection to four streets also would create two-way traffic on all of Court Street and most of Milwaukee Street.

The goal?

Getting traffic to the business district, not through it.

In a city memorandum, Janesville Public Works Director Jack Messer recommended that city officials study a plan that would:

-- Make Court Street two-way.

-- Make Milwaukee Street two-way from Atwood Avenue to Academy Street.

-- End Milwaukee Street at Academy Street, transforming Five Points intersection into a more traditional, four-way intersection.

-- Add angle parking to Milwaukee Street.

For more than 50 years, the priority of the one-way system has been to move traffic through downtown, Messer noted.

But "development and business patterns have shifted," and "pedestrian-scale shopping, business and entertainment districts do not co-exist well with traffic systems that give priority to vehicles," Messer said.

In the 2007 study "City of Janesville Downtown Vision and Strategy," the downtown was identified as a destination, "a hub of civic life, employment, arts, culture and entertainment; parks and open space; residential living and health care."

Changing traffic patterns would allow traffic to flow around downtown via Centerway and Court Street.

Messer acknowledged that changing traffic patterns would create significant challenges, including making Centerway a more "efficient" traffic corridor; improvements and changes to Five Points and at the intersection of Garfield Avenue, Centerway and Milwaukee Street.

The proposal is a long way from becoming a reality. At a study session tonight, city staffers were expected to ask the council if they should study the plan.

"We haven't had any public discussion of the plan; we don't know if it is something that the community would support," Messer said this morning.

It's also unknown how much such a project would cost.

"We don't know what has to be done yet," Messer said.

Cost estimates would include everything from engineering designs for altered intersections, construction costs, traffic signals and hundreds of other small details, Messer said.

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proartist
Oct 28, 2008 at 9:25 a.m.
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The National Historic Trust Main Street program has found success in numerous towns and cities (including throughout Wisconsin) when one-way streets were converted to their original 2-way status. Neighborhoods and downtowns become more vibrant with 2-way streets. One such assessment: http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:Rqj2...

twerp13
Oct 28, 2008 at 8:23 a.m.
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My concern for changing Court St. is driving it in the winter. It is bad enough as it is trying to make it up hill in icy conditions, now if you have traffic coming down it at the same time can you imagine the accidents? I know I have had to go up fish tailing it many times, not to mention sliding back down hill when it was really bad.
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I am not a fan of changing these roads, it is costly and in this time of ecconomic uncertainty we just can not afford it..not even a feasability study. Why should we spend money studing something that has no real practical value at this time let alone that it may be years before we can actulay act on that study in which case it would/could be useless information by that time.
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janesvillecomments
Oct 28, 2008 at 8:14 a.m.
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I still live in Janesville. I was just trying to recall businesses that have moved out of the downtown area off the top of my head. I worked downtown from 1970 to 1980, as well as shopped downtown while there were stores with merchandise I wanted down there. I've been hearing or reading the "let's revitalize the downtown" area ever since the Janesville Mall was built and businesses moved out to escape the congested traffic, limited parking, and neglected buildings downtown.

aprilgal
Oct 28, 2008 at 7:54 a.m.
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I agree that making Milwaukee & Court a two way road is a bad idea. I actually would avoid driving downtown if that happened. I'd use the interstate to get from one side of town to the other, as this would cause a traffic mess. They should just leave it alone.

ithink2much
Oct 28, 2008 at 5:56 a.m.
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This is not a good idea! Not only does this affect the downtown area, it impacts neighborhoods. Having one-ways actually helps limit the amount of traffic "cutting through" residential neighborhoods. Why would we want to increase traffic flows through neighborhoods? Also, Court street has the large hill; can you imagine traffic tearing down that thing? Lastly, I happen to believe the one-ways add a certain amount of charm to the downtown area!

Ernie
Oct 28, 2008 at 2:58 a.m.
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Round abouts are a European concept, Not an American concept. miyata312 is right that not too many people know how to drive in one. I had the "unfamilar" joy of neogotiating one in Madison within the past few years and it took me a few times to get used to it. I don't think putting one at the 5 points is a real good option. Just way too much traffic and big trucks that use it. Center Avenue is in actuallity State Hiway 51. Just my thoughts on this.

miyata312
Oct 28, 2008 at 1:59 a.m.
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A round-a-bout on a major road is just insane. Too many people just cant comprehend the one in the Menards/Del Taco entrance. People just dont get it that the vehicle IN the roundabout has rightway.

janesvillean
Oct 28, 2008 at 12:31 a.m.
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Recession or not, life goes on, and the city can only decide whether to do this if they have some idea of what it would cost. The current proposal seems to be a 'least-cost' option, although rerouting Milwaukee via Academy is probably not an ideal way to improve traffic circulation IN the downtown. I hope with some discussion that a better option can be found, and maybe in a couple of years when the economy stabilizes we can do something sensible like make the Five Points a roundabout.
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Angle parking downtown will have the desired effect of psychologically slowing drivers and make it more convenient to visit businesses.
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janesvillecomments's list of "downtown" businesses makes me question whether s/he actually lives in Janesville anymore.

Ernie
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:23 p.m.
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irishlady4ev, What year were you riding the curcuit? Just curious.

freddog
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:16 p.m.
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leave it alone, there's something to be said about tradition, someone's going to improve it out of exsistance pretty soon...

janesvillecomments
Oct 27, 2008 at 10:40 p.m.
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The only way to get traffic to the downtown "business" district instead of through it is if they make ALL streets one way - going in.
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Angle parking means I would have to walk a block to pick up my orders at the Cozy Inn because those angle stalls are dangerous to traffic. The ones they put in front of Dean Care on Terrace Street. It's hazardous pulling out of the parking lot at their front door when the angle stalls are full.
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Court Street is a convenient way to get over to the Northeast side if you are coming up Centerway or from West Court. If they make that two-way, it will bog down the flow of traffice headed to that side of town.
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I think we should move City Hall out into the old Menards building. That might orient the city council members to the real business district of Janesville and ease the parking situation for the stores still remaining downtown like Sears, JCPenney, Fanny May, Bookworld, Mautz Paint, Janesville Floral, The Army-Navy Store, Siker Furniture, SE Computers

optimism
Oct 27, 2008 at 7:19 p.m.
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THEKID....LOL!!

Irishlady4ev
Oct 27, 2008 at 6:52 p.m.
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Bring back the circuit I miss it downtown

thekid3477
Oct 27, 2008 at 6:07 p.m.
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as long as they dont ban three-ways....

optimism
Oct 27, 2008 at 5:44 p.m.
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ONE WAYS should stay exactly as they ARE if it is going to cost one penny to change them. Our economy doesn't have the ability to dream up yet another "project". And you know it is going to be an outrageous fortune to change, and will effect businesses within the construction zone. We have enough businesses struggling and enough debt within Rock County to worry about.

sabotslug
Oct 27, 2008 at 5:25 p.m.
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Why WASTE money on this now? Remember, Brunner is arguing about a $24 tax increase to fund the budget. And don’t dare challenge him on that or he may walk out of the council meeting. Watch how Brunner votes on this one!

angelwings
Oct 27, 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
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I have been driving on those one way roads for so long that im having a very hard time getting use to the 2 ways.I try not to drive on those roads to avoid confusion on my part.Please dont ruin any other roads!! It isnt broken....dont "fix"it !!!!

ame8736
Oct 27, 2008 at 4:19 p.m.
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just what we need is another study to spend money on to tell us something we already know. though we did not have any money and they were trying to cut the budget.http://gazettextra.com/news/2008/oct/23/budget-talks-get-heated/

yes
Oct 27, 2008 at 3:33 p.m.
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Why don't we work on giving people reasons to come downtown? Blaming it on traffic flows is really reaching. If people want to go downtown, they will find a way and there are plenty of ways to get there. Making East Court past Garfield two-way makes no sense. I live in that area and I don't mind going around, especially when it means keeping my kids safe. Cars fly through that area and now having traffic in both directions will probably force me to move, due to the safety issue. Let's just not use this as an excuse for the inability to revive the downtown.

ReconTHeJon
Oct 27, 2008 at 2:45 p.m.
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im glad they did paint those lines i was pretty sick of people trying to pass me when i was already doing five over the limit

BeenThereDoneThat
Oct 27, 2008 at 2:39 p.m.
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Freedom Speaks, ironically enough, the bike lanes painted on Wright Road were not for the purposes of creating a bike lane in and of itself. When they were first painted, there was an article in the gazette that stated that the main reason for painting in the bike lanes was to enforce the single-lane traffic on Wright Road. Wright Road has always been single lane, but because it's wider than a lot of other streets, cars would try to make a two lane road in both directions. The bike lanes were meant to "curb" that behavior.

FreedomSpeaks
Oct 27, 2008 at 1:15 p.m.
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If the city has so much money to spend on the city streets then our property taxes should start to come down? No reason to change Court and Milwaukee Street to two-way streets. First of all, who shops downtown?

Another waste of money for the streets was the bike lanes. Just this last summer I saw many bike riders riding where cars park but not in the lanes that were made for them. Up on Wright road was an example. This is Janesville not Madison.

sannio
Oct 27, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.
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We need a stronger police presence at the corner of Milton Ave, and Hwy #14, but what does that have to do with this story?
I'd also like to see the farmer's market at the Corn Exchange, but again? Nothing to do with this article.

spark
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
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Boy, I think dealing with all the uncontrolled intersections would be way more priority.

packerbackerkar
Oct 27, 2008 at 11:35 a.m.
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strange how with business's closing and economy going down the only thing the city worries about is which way they want us to be able to drive down a road....business district not much good if we all lose our jobs, maybe we should worry about spending money elsewhere besides changing the direction of the roads!!

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