MeeMees building given to recovery groups

By MIKE DUPRE'   Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2008
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— The building that once housed Janesville's only strip club—and apparently pay-for-sex escapades—could become a meeting place for people trying to stay sober.

As part of a plea agreement, Jim Halbach—who with his wife, Rebecca, owned Screamin' MeeMees, 402 W. Delavan Drive—donated the building to 12 & 12 Drop In Center, a charitable organization that conducts Alcoholic Anonymous meetings.

Whether the group will conduct AA meetings there is unknown.

Neither of the Halbachs' two attorneys knew what purpose 12 & 12 had in mind for the building, and The Janesville Gazette was unable to contact a 12 & 12 representative Tuesday afternoon.

Halbach pleaded no contest Tuesday to a single count of misdemeanor disorderly conduct. He was fined $1,000 and ordered to pay $358 in court costs.

The single misdemeanor charge could have been up to 12 felony charges of keeping a place of prostitution and a single misdemeanor charge of soliciting prostitution. But Rock County District Attorney David O'Leary negotiated the plea agreement because, he said, he wanted to ensure that no strip club opens or re-opens at 402 W. Delavan Drive.

The deal's elements included relinquishing the now-defunct strip club's adult entertainment license, which was held by Rebecca Halbach. She gave up the license.

The property deed was restricted so that no one else may apply for the adult entertainment license.

The building is not in an area zoned for such a license. But because the city council enacted the adult entertainment ordinance after Screamin' MeeMees opened, the business was grandfathered in.

The grandfather exemption also would allow another adult entertainment license at the address for 12 months after the original license was relinquished. The deed restriction closed that window.

The plea agreement also included donating the building to a non-profit organization.

One of the Halbachs' lawyers—Stephen Werner—confirmed Tuesday afternoon that the donation was complete.

The case against Halbach started in summer 2007 when Janesville police got a tip that dancers at Screamin' MeeMees were selling sex for money.

Twenty-two cases were started in all.

Most involved sexual contact—rubbing or touching breasts and/or genitalia—but three involved soliciting money for some form of sexual intercourse.

Two Milwaukee women pleaded guilty to the latter charge; the third case is pending against a Milwaukee woman.

Thirteen other women were charged with soliciting prostitution by sexual contact. Five pleaded no contest to prostitution or disorderly conduct charges. Eight cases are pending.

Four men were charged with misdemeanor soliciting prostitution. Three pleaded no contest; the fourth case is pending.

Janesville police anticipated that felony charges of keeping a place of prostitution would be filed against Halbach and Randy Peterson, the manager of Screamin' MeeMees.

No charges were filed against Peterson.







reader COMMENTS (153)
angelwings
Oct 10, 2008 at 11:12 p.m.
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WOW,THANKS TO THE "PPL WHO NEED AN ENEMA" THIS BLOG WENT DEAD! WELL DONE!

angelwings
Oct 10, 2008 at 5:50 p.m.
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ok whoever removed timsmom needs to go to a diff. blog!!!! It was all good til the rotten apples joined!

gazettefan
Oct 8, 2008 at 8:22 p.m.
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Who?!

nurse4u
Oct 6, 2008 at 6:01 p.m.
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Wow, its like magic...POOF! and shes gone! Like she was never here???

ihavealife
Oct 5, 2008 at 5:09 p.m.
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What happened to timsmom ??? All have been removed.

nurse4u
Oct 5, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
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so SarahB how long have you been in recovery? LMAO You are hilarious..

gazettefan
Oct 5, 2008 at 7:02 a.m.
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He's a bible thumper.

lovetoscrap
Oct 5, 2008 at 2:31 a.m.
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This post is way off topic and quite disturbing. Upnorth, I wouldn't bother with this classless bunch any more. to the Janesville Gazette...I am recommending this whole line of comments be removed from viewing. It is in total violation of the "keep it clean" rule. I am surprised you let it go on this long.

gazettefan
Oct 4, 2008 at 9:31 p.m.
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/;~)

ihavealife
Oct 4, 2008 at 7:14 p.m.
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Maybe he'd show her what a elk horn can really do !!! Bet that would get her swinging around that pole a little faster!!!!

ihavealife
Oct 4, 2008 at 6:49 p.m.
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timmsmom...I don't think she is going to share her young stud with you !!lol

PVANGALDER
Oct 4, 2008 at 6:38 p.m.
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This is tooooooooooo funny! But one can never have tooooo much fun.

upnorthwi
Oct 4, 2008 at 5:21 p.m.
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you're disgusting

gazettefan
Oct 4, 2008 at 4 p.m.
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;~)

upnorthwi
Oct 4, 2008 at 10:45 a.m.
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Why don't you just grow up? You act as though I wear one of those night dresses and braids to bed. I'm 41, husband 35, OOOOOOOOOOOOO yes, a younger one! I'm obviously doing something right!!!! Guess what? Whatever you wear TO bed can also come off IN bed. Usually one of his t shirts. What else would you care to know? Um let's see, since I live up north I must live in a hunting shack with deer heads all over the place. Um, NO! 3400 square foot home, 5 bedrooms, 3 baths, family room, formal dining room, on 1 1/2 acres in the woods. Absolutely beautiful out here. We can go nudie in our yard if we want. Anything else????

SarahB
Oct 4, 2008 at 12:35 a.m.
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Hi, my name is Sarah and I am a recovering pole swinger and lap dancer.

JayDawgsTheMan
Oct 3, 2008 at 4:39 p.m.
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(turns on the lights and the music) Welcome to our new meeting place... Don't let the poles disturb you, we just don't have enough funding to have them removed, but feel free to take them for a spin!!!

gazettefan
Oct 3, 2008 at 4:16 p.m.
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Hey, wait, what do you think I'm doing here. You choose.

nurse4u
Oct 3, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.
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ok gfan. you can have a garter belt. What color??

gazettefan
Oct 3, 2008 at 1:42 p.m.
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And the garter belt!!!

nurse4u
Oct 3, 2008 at 1:31 p.m.
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OMG! I can NOT stop laughing! You ppl are so funny! I am loving it! A little pole dancing, a lapdance, everyone is happy.. well almost everybody.

gazettefan
Oct 3, 2008 at 12:16 p.m.
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Which one of the chicks here mentioned the garter belt?

whocares77
Oct 3, 2008 at 11 a.m.
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Welcome to janesvlille.Police spend half a million on investagation brougt on by a porn star. halbach gets tax write off for price of building. city never gets another dime of tax $$$ off the property. all this for a disorderly conduct charge. sounds like a federal bail out to me.
at least the 12 & 12 will use it to help people help themselves.

ihavealife
Oct 3, 2008 at 10:03 a.m.
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You should all lighten up on "upnorth" we all know she swings around on her poles in the basement.That's why their called support poles !! Lets all support her !LOL

upnorthwi
Oct 3, 2008 at 8:33 a.m.
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I'm glad I amused all of you. No, my husband does not go to nudie bars. We don't think it's appropriate, it has to do with being faithful, and, biblically speaking, it is wrong! I'm not a prude either, just someone who respects my husband, that's the way it should be. We are not an uptight couple, and I DO know how to keep him happy, I just don't advertise it!!

optimism
Oct 3, 2008 at 8:19 a.m.
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JAYDAWG...WELCOME!!! Fun isn't it? The ney neyers need to find some other "chat room" where they all can bicker.....debate is fun, even when you disagree, but when people get sooooooooo evil mad, it is just a downer....have fun blogging....but remember, the lap dance must be free!! hehe

JayDawgsTheMan
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 p.m.
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I'm glad that they are gonna do something with the building... That place was always an eyesore for this town, and I am glad that it is gone... What sucks is that it was part of an agreement, so by my understanding the Halbachs are getting off pretty easy, other than losing a building and a few dollars in fines and fees... Unless I am missing something, which I'm sure someone will let me know if I am, either in a kind way or in a rude way (just a part of blogging lol)
Oh and I got $20, I'm ready for my first lapdance :D hehe

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:37 p.m.
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actually angelwings...i have a very good imagination....when i sober up she is beautiful

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:35 p.m.
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so...tell me Jay...what are your feeling on this topic

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:35 p.m.
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where else can you get a pole dance and a lap dance and sober up all at the same time but when you sober up you realize what the chic on your lap really looks like....ewwwww

JayDawgsTheMan
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:33 p.m.
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Woo Hoo!!! Thanks for the warm welcome... Glad to be involved now lol

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:32 p.m.
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i agree Jay...welcome to the fun and games in rehab...

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 p.m.
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hello jay,you are welcome here

JayDawgsTheMan
Oct 2, 2008 at 8:30 p.m.
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Gotta love the humor in this blog... Was very interesting to read... Good to see they are doing something with that building, but is it just me or are the Halbachs getting away kinda easy on what was a pretty serious situation??

BTW - First Time Blogger (just signed up) but I've been reading the blogs for a long while now (something to do on my downtimes at work and home)... Guess it took a bit to finally get me to sign up, but I'm here now!!!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:13 p.m.
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it's called privacy angel....i'll keep a toe under the leg for stability

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:11 p.m.
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ya know what sucks? It took me being rude to get someone to respond to me and it is already over except for devil.

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:09 p.m.
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gee...i don't know which to choose. I am not familiar with the dances the polish or laplanders do.

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:06 p.m.
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How about a pole or lap dance?

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:03 p.m.
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not all people do...unfortunately some ppl don't believe they have faults

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:02 p.m.
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i've earned enough signs in my lifetime to reach heaven's gates....

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:02 p.m.
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at least I admit my faults,huh?

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:59 p.m.
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angel....you're not alone in this world...we all earn our signs....

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:58 p.m.
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timsmom-didnt mean to make you fret! sorry!

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:56 p.m.
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Devil,I have earned it!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:55 p.m.
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angelwings....here's your sign

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:51 p.m.
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I was so blonde at one time that someone I knew,who was recovering,said his counselor said he was cured and to go out and drink just to make sure. I said(really?)like an idiot!!!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:40 p.m.
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geez...i go and eat dinner...and everyone stops blogging...i thought the "stage" was set for fun and rehab

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 6:03 p.m.
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Dont cry in your beer!!!! it will taste funny! you just scared me for a minute there!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 6 p.m.
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BTW....I know the staff...and they DO have a great sense of humor.

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:56 p.m.
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Ok,im not laughing anymore. timsmom doesnt have the "humor" she described.

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:52 p.m.
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WHOA! PPL! THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE FUN!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:51 p.m.
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then i best go eat dinner...it's done anyways

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:48 p.m.
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Devil,slap it with a label-spank,spank!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:47 p.m.
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timsmom...i love a little bit o breast...and tender thighs...

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.
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timsmom-Of course you are right. That is obvious just by reading others comments.Some ppl need to learn to laugh but on the other hand,if laughing needs to be taught,is there hope?

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:34 p.m.
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timsmom69...?,,,prissies...hmmm wanna join me for lunch...sounds like you're an interesting gal

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:32 p.m.
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Im not THAT kind of angel!But thanks!

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:30 p.m.
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timsmom-I think you are funny! Keep it going!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:29 p.m.
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ANGELWINGS...you sound like my kinda angel (wink)

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:21 p.m.
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Hey,Devil! Have to find fun in any situation!Otherwise,what is the point?

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:07 p.m.
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angelwings...it could be lotsa fun....

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 5:05 p.m.
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More ppl might go to rehab if it were fun!

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:57 p.m.
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Hmmm...rehab with a side show

DevilTail
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
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i hope the new visitors won't be too disappoinyed in what they see now

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:46 p.m.
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UPNORTH...OMG...your husband must have some self esteem issues if he can't handle his wife talking a bit silly. If this is something you choose to do out of your own free will, then you both can be stuffy together, but if you are being a little prudy mouse just because you will offend him, there are 12 step programs for that too. Lighten up.

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.
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BILL...oh my dear fellow, you just broke one of the commandments...thou shall not have vanity!! hehe....just kidding. You are quite the character. I would like you to explain though what you meant in your post about me and the mockery statement....didn't quite get it.

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.
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And the best part would be our insurance would cover it, no need to worry about going in debt....NURSE4U....I think you got something here!!

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:39 p.m.
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CAMPER....OMG you got me just a giggling!!! Almost wet my pants....POLE DANCING NURSE....I would get sick just to see that...and I am a girl....hehe. The blood pressure bit was the best!!!! Keep up the great attitude!~!!

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:05 p.m.
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1 and 2,1 and 2 and drink and.....SLIDE!

angelwings
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:03 p.m.
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WOW!!!! lol.......this is the best blog I have been on yet!!! I can't stop laughing!!

desertman
Oct 2, 2008 at 3:33 p.m.
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so now the city can't collect taxes on the property awsome. Who's the smart one now.

nurse4u
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:56 p.m.
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Pole dancing has actually become a type of exercse taught in gyms around the country..

But I guess we are all out of work strippers if we appreciate the stamina it takes to actually pole dance..

P.S. I am really an RN, but hey I can pretend..Halloween is coming up..

whocares77
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:47 p.m.
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your mama & daddy must of taught all of you to beleive everything you read in the news papper and fed by the police. you all make it sound like the halbachs are guilty. they have been after these people for 10 years. do you not think for one moment that if everything they said was true, and they had all the evidence for a 100% conviction, they would have hung them as high as they could have. as we all know, $$$ is no object for prosacution of high crime like this. jenifer, the informent, who runs to the gazzette the day after she convinced the police this was a multi-state crime ring, who also admits that she is an anna nicole smith wanna be and confesses she is a porn star out in california. the gazette said that 50 cops took 8 hours to complete the raid. how much do you think that costed, or do you think they volunteered their time. then add the cost of the thousands of hours of tapes that had to be watched. i am not sayig that halbach was a saint, i am sure he has done some stupid things.
even if you do not like them, they have done a lot of good things for the city of janesville. i thank the halbachs, for any reason they did it, for a nice home for the 12 & 12.

intheloop
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:24 p.m.
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From what I have seen, the 12&12 doesn't attract much better clients than the strip club did so the same type of people will be hanging out there anyways.

billnewbie
Oct 2, 2008 at 11:32 a.m.
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I see NVgrf has had his courage reinforced by the presence of allies. I can’t wait to see what he posts next, especially if it’s original and not just a paste job from some obscure website.
No, Gazettefan, you don’t know me at all, but you can rely on me for a response anytime you want one.
It seems that Optimism has a new found appreciation for mockery. I guess I can take credit for that. Have I really annoyed you? Not bad for a meager effort. I guess I’m better than I thought.
Timsmom69 seems to be trying to engage in commerce on this site. Times must be getting tough for all those out of work “Screamers”.
My list of fans seems to grow by the hour. If you like you can join my fan club. Send me an e-mail and I’ll tell you where to send your check, but no freebees Timsmom, only U.S. currency.

upnorthwi
Oct 2, 2008 at 11:03 a.m.
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no, I'm not an uptight person, I have self respct and respect for my husband. I couldn't imagine "talking" to strangers like that, my husband wouldn't appreciate it either. Actually, I'm quite a joker and enjoy a good laugh, OFTEN:)

upnorthwi
Oct 2, 2008 at 9:56 a.m.
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timsmom..is that your best solution to the tense atmosphere you detect, is to offer lap/pole dances? I read it on the GIFTS post also, your comment is rude and I can only imagine what kind of person you are to offer stangers something so disgusting. I don't care if you're kidding or not, but, it really says something about your character.

gazettefan
Oct 2, 2008 at 8:49 a.m.
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I didn't say billnewbie was a problem drinker. But then again, I don't know him that well.

This blog is getting interesting: Chicks, garter belts, poles, dancing, invitations, money not changing hands!!!

NVgrf
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:49 a.m.
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Hey.....stop picking on my buddy, bill. And just when we got him quieted down.

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:27 a.m.
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TIMSMOM...where were you when I needed you?? LOL. Yes, it's true, it takes work to get where we are, but I have faith with a few "steps" these others will get there too....hehe.

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 7:24 a.m.
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Oh My Goodness BILLNEWBIE....you are really actually a little bit annoying. Proof....poof!! To you, the only exceptable proof would be poof. And if that were the admittance of someone as their proof, you would argue that. So tell me something, are you so anal because you drink, or do you drink because your anal? ;o) Either way, I know of a nice little place that is no stranger to the question of "proof"....Formally known as Screamin' MeeMees.

luluberry_0981
Oct 2, 2008 at 1:19 a.m.
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I say burn the place down and build a parking lot...

mentor397
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:55 a.m.
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While the usual move is to condemn a property, the city, being more subtle and vengeful, destroyed the life of the owner in order to remove the blight from their land and prevent it from ever coming back.

I saw this happening years ago. The only surprise was that it took so long to find something that bad.

optimism
Oct 2, 2008 at 12:02 a.m.
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And just to add a quick note, I suffer from anxiety and panic.....and it really SUCKS!!!!!! Although, I have it under control, when you go through a panic attack the last thing you are is rational, but you know what? I do have enough of a sense of humor to still joke around about being a head case....and how I have to talk to myself and if people heard me they probably would just stare and wonder what the HE** is wrong with that chick...but you know what, I have enough confidence and exceptance of who and what I am, I can laugh about it as well. And if anyone on here has suffered from panic....you know what I mean when I say it SUCKS. So, if I can do that, you "perfects" out there should definately be able to snicker about a little lap dance humor.....

optimism
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:52 p.m.
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Now as far as the location of the meeting hall...will they remove the poles, or will they have to use them as resistence to temptation props?

optimism
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:51 p.m.
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AA is a seriously needed program for recoveries. BUT, let's not get our garter belts in a bunchy....if a person who is a recovering alcoholic can't find a sense of humor, then they aren't recovered. The whole 12 step process is to except the things I CAN'T change. And you can't change other's views of the world, therefore, if you find it funny, laugh, if you don't, ignore it because you can't change it. And I bet those that are active in the program can laugh at the comments on here, it is the uptight little judgemental UNHAPPY, botoxed people that can't express a smile. AND my suggestion to you is, if you are a victim of an alcoholic...QUIT beinga victim and go to alonon. Happiness and laugher are the best medicine.

nurse4u
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:28 p.m.
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yes unidenified alcoholism is very unfortunate. However, laughter is the best medicine. I mean what about Patch Addams??

Unidentified
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:24 p.m.
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I knew the second I saw this story it would dissolve into nonsense. I could have been the first post yesterday, but opted to wait and see if I was right. I'm all for humor, but alcoholism is a real issue that destroys families and kills people. Unfortunately, there aren't too many locations in Janesville that aren't close to a bar, which is part of the problem.

nurse4u
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:23 p.m.
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I have the perfect costume..and some stileetos. Timsmom, we cant charge though for the lapdances..it'll be considered prostitution.

nurse4u
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:22 p.m.
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Exorism? I guess its close enough to halloween. menards already has christmas decorations up..

onelife2live
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:18 p.m.
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Good place for a sober meeting place, with 4 bars within spitting distance.

gazettefan
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:41 p.m.
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Do the benefits of being a dry-drunk offset the fact that you are no longer trustworthy?!

Everyone knows that people who don't drink can't be trusted.

LesBoogie
Oct 1, 2008 at 8:22 p.m.
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I'd have a Priest exercise that building before anyone moves into it..

billnewbie
Oct 1, 2008 at 7:36 p.m.
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No, Sannio, I meant what I wrote.

prevobus
Oct 1, 2008 at 7:11 p.m.
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I didn't want to have things edited and I thought the jokes by timsmom were funny as well. I was referring to the slam jokes about AA or of the folks that have resolved to stand up to there addictions. I have already noticed some editing of comments here.

curlysue
Oct 1, 2008 at 6:49 p.m.
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LOL LOL LOL I haven't enjoyed a blog this much EVER!! My hubby is very involved in AA and he's laughin his a** off!!! Some AAers think life is better when you can walk past a bar and thank God that part of their life is over and can laugh again, instead of drowning their sorrows in booze. Keep it up timsmom!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL

sannio
Oct 1, 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
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billnewbie - Don't you mean a creationist museum?
Gazettefan - Don't you mean going around, and making amends to people you've harmed?
Prevobus - If all the comments were decent, wouldn't you be wondering happened to the other ones? If you started wondering that, wouldn't you start thinking that the person removing them might also remove comments they simply don't agree with?

billnewbie
Oct 1, 2008 at 5:39 p.m.
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Oh I see, you lose an argument and you carry your grudge over to some other story to take your cheap shots. Graceless.
Still looking for the proof....
Nearly any other use of this property than what the Halbach's established is preferable, even an evolution museum.

gazettefan
Oct 1, 2008 at 5:08 p.m.
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AA would get a lot more members if they abolished that step where you have to go around and apologize to the people who caused your drinking problem!

gazettefan
Oct 1, 2008 at 5:06 p.m.
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What'll bibledude, billnewbie, MD(something), and some of those other thumpers get a load of this!!!

prevobus
Oct 1, 2008 at 5 p.m.
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What a bunch of idiots posting here. There are people who depend on these and other programs. Maybe they could run a day care center there to raise money and baby sit for those who are dumb enough to take their kids to the bar. Just once it would be nice to see decent comments.

sannio
Oct 1, 2008 at 4:41 p.m.
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Good name for a bar. The "13th step" is when you go to AA to pick up women. Jesus had Mary for his lap dancing needs. I always burn Jiffy Pop. My Boy Scout popcorn is three years old AND STILL GOOD!!!

norseman
Oct 1, 2008 at 3:57 p.m.
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Now one of the taverns around the corner needs to change its name to "The Thirteenth Step".

BartSimpson
Oct 1, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.
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Should have made that place a rub and tug. Dont have a cow man

marymac4
Oct 1, 2008 at 3:53 p.m.
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WHY TIMSMOM YOU GOING TO GIVE ONE LOL

janesvillean
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:29 a.m.
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12 & 12 could lease the building to provide income to support its programs.
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And yes, there are 12-step programs for sex addiction.
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But it isn't that unusual for addiction programs to be near the place where people get addicted. It's a really good place to be, actually. If an alcoholic can be reminded every day that there's help available, and can see regular people, maybe that s/he knows, taking part, it makes it easier for them to take that step when they need to.
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And the current location (in the Knights of Columbus building in the Fourth Ward) is directly adjacent to a number of known drug houses. I do wonder what they think about that (both the 12-steppers and the dealers).

whocares77
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:10 a.m.
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one of their "collars" He can't speak english, they go arrest him on a friday nite, make him spend the week end in jail, he misses work and pay, and they tell him, plead guilty and pay a $250 fine or this will happen agin. Jenifer, the police madam & informant, was the crust of the problem. this is the same informant that set up her cousin in a drug bust at local bar. her claim that the halbachs were running a drug cartel, selling child porn over the internet, was the daun waun of janesvile, what ever happend to those allegations. Another john they arrested that pleaded guilty was her boy friend that she is having a kid by. what do you think the price tag was for this. if i am not wrong, they can not bring anymore chages against any of thoose people because the trial is over.

armyof3
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.
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janesvillegirl23: you know what i was referring to... close enough to the front door, may as well be apart of GM...

spark
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:53 a.m.
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Give me a break. You know what they meant by saying the bar is on GM property. Just conveniently located within walking distance to the front door.

janesvillegirl23
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:37 a.m.
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armyof3:
I would like to correct your statement.
There is no bar located "ON GM PROPERTY" as you state.
The bar you are talking about is located near GM but on located on its own property.

lakennedy
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.
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The building doesn't necessarily have to be used to host meetings.

armyof3
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:20 a.m.
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really smart location.... having an AA building less than a block away from Game Day and Dool's, and not even 8 blocks away from 708 and Slicks (not counting the bar on GM property)... if you decide not to quit after all, the bar's are all right there... niiiiiccccceeee...

sannio
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:11 a.m.
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The 12 X 12 is not an AA group. It hosts AA groups. Important difference.

BeenThereDoneThat
Oct 1, 2008 at 8:54 a.m.
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It's not funny if you're a person battling demons against alcohol addiction (which I'm not, for the record).

Ernie
Oct 1, 2008 at 8:40 a.m.
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Hee hee hee! Now that is funny! LOL.

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